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post #19291 of 23915
3/1/12 at 6:10am
One thing I've noticed is that the two units are both showing up on the J&R page for "Magnavox DVD Recorder". They're showing as "out of stock", but they are still there. In the past the listings have been gone all together.

Maybe J&R knows more are coming?
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post #19292 of 23915
3/1/12 at 6:40am
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Originally Posted by gastrof View Post

One thing I've noticed is that the two units are both showing up on the J&R page for "Magnavox DVD Recorder". They're showing as "out of stock", but they are still there. In the past the listings have been gone all together.

Maybe J&R knows more are coming?

As long as new units remain available from major retailers anywhere, don't you think it's rather inevitable that more reburbs will become available to the usual refurb sellers?
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post #19293 of 23915
3/1/12 at 7:07am
I ordered mine yesterday , will ship next week wed. , was told 5 more incoming. my order states Shipping Details
Awaiting shipment. Shipping will be via UPS Standard. Estimated delivery is between March 05, 2012 and March 08, 2012.
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post #19294 of 23915
3/1/12 at 7:10am
"There are too many variables at this time to make objective conclusions. "

And writing off using the Mag is too early in the game to write off also.

I don't think I am the only one that records SD shows on sub channels with the Mag.

And I still say it is easier and less error prone to do it on the Mag than using a PC. Can't speak for the Myth crowd on this.

If you mostly only record HD in 720P or 1080i and you are someone who wants 5:1 audio and best rez picture than yes go the PC Win Media route or just use the DVR that is almost standard now with Cable or Dish.

But if you are recording Sub Channel shows like Gunsmoke I do not see what is so bad about sticking with the Mag.
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post #19295 of 23915
3/1/12 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post

As long as new units remain available from major retailers anywhere, don't you think it's rather inevitable that more reburbs will become available to the usual refurb sellers?

Not that many days ago they WEREN'T showing up as out of stock. They weren't showing up at all, and when asked by e-mail, J&R indicated they weren't going to get any more.

Thing is, then they did.


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"There are too many variables at this time to make objective conclusions. "

And writing off using the Mag is too early in the game to write off also.

I don't think I am the only one that records SD shows on sub channels with the Mag.

And I still say it is easier and less error prone to do it on the Mag than using a PC. Can't speak for the Myth crowd on this.

If you mostly only record HD in 720P or 1080i and you are someone who wants 5:1 audio and best rez picture than yes go the PC Win Media route or just use the DVR that is almost standard now with Cable or Dish.

But if you are recording Sub Channel shows like Gunsmoke I do not see what is so bad about sticking with the Mag.

The Maggies are great machines and I record HD shows, down-rezzed, and save them to DVD.

I don't care.

Even playing back into an HD set (in my bedroom) doesn't produce all that bad a picture. Not HD certainly, but still totally viewable.

I've posted in the "alternatives" thread about computer based TV recording, but that's only due to the fact I know the Maggies won't live forever.

My 513 came yesterday, and I really think I'm ordering another if J&R gets any. From another source...

Not quite sure, but maybe.
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post #19296 of 23915
3/1/12 at 10:41am
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A FYI from another thread.
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

HDDs can be interchanged between 2160A, 513 and 515 w/o any other SATA adapters beyond the one in each machine. I'd wait for prices to come down on new HDDs. I don't know if Funai parts supplies HDDs, never asked.

I asked. Funai doesn't sell HDDs.
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post #19297 of 23915
3/1/12 at 2:32pm
WAJO, you fabulously addicted genius!!

I started looking for a combo vhs/dvd recorder, but once I became a member here ('cause of my f38310), and found your superlative documentation on the Mag's I knew I had to get one.

Kept reading the threads while shopping for one and finally bought a refub 513through A****n for 187 w/free shipping. Just got it yesterday, (mfg 8/11)set it up and vskipped it (v 727H1E).

Have vcr=> L1, component=>crt, dig audio=>receiver. Just finished a vhs>hdd>rw+ and, are you ready (drum roll), every thing worked great! Thanks sooo much, w/o you don't think I could've done it w/just the manual.

Do have the OTA ant coax going through a good surge suppress (kinda gun shy since lightning fried my DM-1) and didn't notice any PQ degradation vs straight through. Plus now two tuners = wife happy.

Now the addition part...just ordered a hdmi=>component convert, and looking for a good video stabilizer for vhs&dvd. Thinking I'd like one w/both hdmi and component/svideo input (in case I get a BR) and the best output? to the 513
Any thoughts???

IN WAJO WE TRUST
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post #19298 of 23915
3/1/12 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by Chitown Oldie View Post

I've started the addiction

Addiction? What addiction?

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Originally Posted by Chitown Oldie View Post

Kept reading the threads while shopping for one and finally bought a refub 513through A****n for 187 w/free shipping. Just got it yesterday, (mfg 8/11)set it up and vskipped it (v 727H1E).

You didn't install SuperFW 727V?

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Do have the OTA ant coax going through a good surge suppress (kinda gun shy since lightning fried my DM-1) and didn't notice any PQ degradation vs straight through. Plus now two tuners = wife happy.

Wife happy = EVERYONE happy!

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Now the addition part...just ordered a hdmi=>component convert, and looking for a good video stabilizer for vhs&dvd. Thinking I'd like one w/both hdmi and component/svideo input (in case I get a BR) and the best output? to the 513
Any thoughts???

If you get a BR player now, it might still have analog outputs, but if you want protection against the "analog sunset" for future BR players, here's some I've tested, but there are many others.

Have fun with your new toy!
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post #19299 of 23915
3/1/12 at 7:18pm
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Originally Posted by Chitown Oldie View Post

looking for a good video stabilizer for vhs&dvd.

I have two:
RXII (80-4280)
Clarifier DVS Pro

The former I bought many many moons ago. The later is less than a month old. They both do what they need to. I can't detect any difference in performance to justify the price difference, though the latter also has SVHS I/O. The former is more convenient to connect in having all connections on the same end, less convenient in having an internal 9V battery to power it.
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post #19300 of 23915
3/2/12 at 2:01pm
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Originally Posted by tonypeter View Post

Sorry for answering late, but I was out of town and just catching up with the forum.

I do mean that copies are in PAL. I ripped the retail dvds to an hdd with the DvdDecrypter. Then I burnt them with the ImgBurn. The results were the exact copies minus CP and region code, and NO PAL to Ntsc conversion! I never do any software PAL/NTSC conversion or any, for conversion or any other purpose, real time recording of a dvd from a player to a recorder. It's pointless to me because I own several converting players and a recorder LiteOn 5045 (only player part does conversion, the recorder records the signal it gets, either NTSC or PAL). Consequently, I do stand by the results of my tests, the 515 DOES play PAL dvd video on the analogue NTSC tv burnt on +R/RW (-R/RW most likely as well). The 515 does NOT play commercially pressed PAL dvds, region code or no region code. Also I do not have any multisystem or HD tv.

For grounder:

If one wants to play their favourite PAL dvds on MAG 515, they have to be backed-up to a computer with help of DvdDecrypter, DvdFabDecrypter, AnyDvd, or DvdFab's PassKey or some other program. Then the back-ups need to be burnt to a +/- R/RW with the ImgBurn or any other dvd writer.

Thank you tonypeter (and SonicBlade on the private line) for the info. Way toooo much work, but then that depends on ones perspective and ultimate goal

I was hoping I could just use the Mag515 for all my needs (HDD, HD off air, all region DVD, etc.) but I will just see if I can find my old multisystem that is buried somewhere in storage or spend $38 US on one of those slimline - throwaway Philips DVP3xxx w/HDMI and unlock it it for all regions/NTSC-PAL since I mainly have RC2 and 4.

Cheers, grounder
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post #19301 of 23915
3/2/12 at 2:33pm
Thx Wajo & MrMazda,

Me being a LOF (lazy old fart), am looking for an 'all in one' self aware converter/stablizer. Something where I could plug in hdmi, component/svid, and composite, then output svid to the 513. That way which ever source I wanted to use (blueray, dvd, vhs) the converter would know which was active and process accordingly. Being a neophyte, is such a thing possible?


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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Addiction? What addiction?

Addiction = Spending more&more $$$ for the same level of satisfaction.


You didn't install SuperFW 727V?

Saw your comparison article and may do it after warr. expires.

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post #19302 of 23915
3/2/12 at 2:58pm
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Originally Posted by Chitown Oldie View Post

Something where I could plug in hdmi, component/svid, and composite, then output svid to the 513. That way which ever source I wanted to use (blueray, dvd, vhs) the converter would know which was active and process accordingly. Being a neophyte, is such a thing possible?

For exactly as you describe, I doubt it. An A/V amp similar to mine could do the switching, but it has no stabilization circuitry I'm aware of. Probably only the VHS needs the stabilization, so you could put a $30 unit on its output to the A/V amp input, and the A/V could output to both TV and 513, and both the A/V amp and 513 could output to the TV. The more of any A/V equipment you have, the more complicated life gets.
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post #19303 of 23915
3/2/12 at 3:51pm
Good thought, I do have an old Phillips 990d.

What about using something like SIMA SVS4D - Audio/Video Switcher, then the stablizer to the 513?

P.S. Does your user name have anything to do with your ride? I run a '04 6S w/5 speed.
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post #19304 of 23915
3/2/12 at 8:51pm
This topic may have been covered before, but I never saw it.... so.....

Are most of the Refurbished Units that we talk about here were actually faulty units, or units that were just returned for "Operator Error"?

Reason that I am asking is because I was at a major retailer here in the Atlanta area, (BrandSmart USA) and they had a "cage" with tons of stuff in it. I asked a manager what it was, and he informed me that it was returns. Of course I asked what did they do with them, and he told me they ship the units to the COMPANIES that the MANUFACTURER asks them to. He went on to tell me that most of the items had NOTHING wrong with them, and it was operator error. They could not sell them as new, and as a seller all they could do legally was go by what the buyer said.

So I am wondering if all of these companies that are selling these "refurbished" units are only selling units that were sold with nothing wrong with them in the first place.

Again, if this topic has been covered forgive.

Brent
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post #19305 of 23915
3/3/12 at 5:50am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Brent Aucoin View Post

I am wondering if all of these companies that are selling these "refurbished" units are only selling units that were sold with nothing wrong with them in the first place.

This is well known on Mag refurbs since people post the usage stats when they get their refurbs and many/most show VERY low usage.
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post #19306 of 23915
3/3/12 at 5:59am
Thread Starter 


Walmart has 515 refurbs (at least 1) in stock again, same price as new 513's, $249.88.

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post #19307 of 23915
3/3/12 at 10:46am
What is the latest fireware update for 515?
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post #19308 of 23915
3/3/12 at 10:54am
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Originally Posted by dagger666 View Post

What is the latest fireware update for 515?

Is that firewire or firmware? If latter, none.

See:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=6962
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post #19309 of 23915
3/3/12 at 11:18am
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What is the latest fireware update for 515?

Latest user update in new 515's is 727V ("SuperFW"), as described in Joe's link.

Refurbs could have the original OEM 724V, the "oddball" OEM 726V, or the latest 727V (per next post)?
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post #19310 of 23915
3/3/12 at 11:43am
I just received a 515 (refurb) from J&R - mfg 4/2011, refurb 1/2012, 727V firmware and 3 hrs usage.
A couple of months ago, I bought a new 513 from Target with mfg date of 6/2010.
Where have these units been hanging around?
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post #19311 of 23915
3/3/12 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by indyjack View Post

I just received a 515 (refurb) from J&R - mfg 4/2011, refurb 1/2012, 727V firmware and 3 hrs usage.
A couple of months ago, I bought a new 513 from Target with mfg date of 6/2010.
Where have these units been hanging around?

Thanks for info. I'll have to mod. my post.
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post #19312 of 23915
3/3/12 at 12:47pm
Has anyone ever tried installing the Super 727V firmware on a Maggie H2160MW9 (non A model) and what were the results?
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post #19313 of 23915
3/3/12 at 12:57pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by plesiuk View Post

Has anyone ever tried installing the Super 727V firmware on a Maggie H2160MW9 (non A model) and what were the results?

I did, also on a 3575, both no-go (rejected, but scary for awhile).
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post #19314 of 23915
3/3/12 at 2:19pm
I just noticed a curious thing concerning my Mag.2160A yesterday. I checked the laser use time for the first time since i bought it,IIRC ~2yrs.ago(maybe longer??) "new"from W-M.The DVD-WR time was 0:51,DVD-RD time was 1:59.This is no where near right!,These use times are waaaaaay off(in my favor if i ever wanted to sell it!) since i have dubbed many,many movies and Eps.of a few tv programs from the 50's and early 60's to disc on this DVDR.The HDD "on" time was 2088 hrs. Has anyone else noticed anything like this with laser use time??? Is it somehow possible for the time to be deleted??,a bug in the timer system??(my best guess), does the time turn over like an odometer or somthin'??WTH! The recorder works perfectly,no problem there:. Today i HSD a movie, "Cotton Comes To Harlem"(1970/97min.) to disc,the laser use time now stands at DVD-WR 1:02 DVD-RD time is 2:30.
Any guesses???
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post #19315 of 23915
3/3/12 at 2:36pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Latest user update in new 515's is 727V ("SuperFW"), as described in Joe's link.

Refurbs could have the original OEM 724V, the "oddball" OEM 726V, or the latest 727V (per next post)?

My 515 "refurb" from J&R arrived yesterday and was set up about ten minutes ago. It was manufactured in September 2011 and refurbished at Groveport Ohio on 10 February 2012.

Here are the vital statistics:
LL
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post #19316 of 23915
3/3/12 at 3:05pm
My 515 has a seven second SP hard drive test recording from channel 4.1 of this 10 February 2012 episode of Anderson Cooper:

Straight from the headlines, fifteen teenage girls in upstate New York have been afflicted with a mysterious illness causing Tourette's Syndrome-like symptoms. Anderson speaks with one of the teens, her family, and a team of medical experts to investigate what is really happening. Follow a mom whose daughter is trapped in a real life medical mystery as we search for an answer.
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post #19317 of 23915
3/3/12 at 5:25pm
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

My 515 has a seven second SP hard drive test recording from channel 4.1 of this 10 February 2012 episode of Anderson Cooper:

Straight from the headlines, fifteen teenage girls in upstate New York have been afflicted with a mysterious illness causing Tourette's Syndrome-like symptoms. Anderson speaks with one of the teens, her family, and a team of medical experts to investigate what is really happening. Follow a mom whose daughter is trapped in a real life medical mystery as we search for an answer.

They said all that in seven seconds?
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post #19318 of 23915
3/3/12 at 8:15pm
Hello,

I did a search but could not find any answers to my question.

Bought a great Magnavox Blu-Ray / DVD player today for $10 off of Craigslist. Like new so I am happy. Got it home and all set up then BAM! The Blu-Ray player remote turns on the 513 HDD Recorder in the bedroom. Not at good thing.

Question: Is there a way to get this to stop? I have a 515 in the living room and I could have sworn that I read someone figured out a way to turn off the "Hot Key" commands for the 515. Did I dream this? Hot Keys as in Play, Open / Close / etc. that actually turn on the unit when you press them on the remote.

Any Feedback would be great!

Have a Great Weekend Everyone!

Brent
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post #19319 of 23915
3/3/12 at 8:33pm
Brent-

We've long asked Funai to produce a version of the recorder with at least two sets of IR remote codes so we'd be able to operate two in the same room.

I have a Magnavox DVD/VHS recorder that also reacts to the 515's remote, and I have to keep them apart from each other.

I don't believe anyone's found a way to alter the machine so's to not respond to the remote, but you could turn one machine off and carefully turn the other on.

Some have also simply gotten a piece of cardboard to block the IR receiver "eye" on one machine while they're using the other one.

That might be the better way, because I just tried mine and with the 515 turned off, it reacted to a pressing of the play button on the remote, turning on.

I do recall people trying some behaviour tests, maybe something like "Will it turn on if it has a DVD in the tray, but was left set on HDD before being turned off?" Odd little "Try this, try that" sorts of things.

Don't believe much came of it, tho'.

If there's something I'm forgetting (not unheard of), hopefully someone else will chime in.

Of course, you COULD sell the Magnavox Blu-ray player and get one by another manufacturer...
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post #19320 of 23915
3/3/12 at 11:34pm
I finally got the new Magnavox 515 Refurb connected for a bit tonight. This was one of the units in the batch that appeared at J&R on Fri, 2/24/12. I went through the setup, then did Skip code checks.

This unit was mfg May 2011; s/n R21121xxx; OH 2012/01/27(means refurb date of 1/27?)

Skip 079
DVD & HDD Connection: Both OK
HDD Power On: 26 hours

Skip 321
DVD-WR: 0:00
DVD-RD: 0:04
CD: 0:00

I didn't check for the firmware version- with a refurb date of 1/27/12(yes?), seems it should have the latest 727V1E version. If not, I can always do that when it goes into daily use.

So, 26 hours HD on, 4 min of DVD play time on the discontinued 515 refurb- I can live with that.

Will continue to use the 2160A for a while. I did get the 2160A firmware updated to the new Super-Duper 727V1E version- it's nice to have some real titles on the title page now. Now if the price of hard drives would just drop!
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