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post #19681 of 23758
3/22/12 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Yes, they do.

That makes me happy. There seems to be a trend to produce a "tuner" that allows recordings to be saved to an external USB drive. Perhaps that doesn't violate a TiVo patent? Another mystery.
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post #19682 of 23758
3/22/12 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Yes, tried it, and it works well, as described here.


I see the the audio on my 'test run' is AC3, which is compressed. Are there any other options when dubbing or does the 3575 always default to AC3.
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post #19683 of 23758
3/22/12 at 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by TBoneit View Post

I use these with power strips. I bought three 6 pack's and gave my brother one too.
This is an example only, this guy is to expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Go-0313.../dp/B000233WJ6

However they work. I'm using 11 right now and have 7 more spare including the earlier purchase at a local crafts store.
I also saw them in a one plug to four outlet version.

Good Luck

I've seen the one-to-one versions at Radio Shack in a multi-pack. Not sure how the price compares to the ones on Amazon.
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post #19684 of 23758
3/22/12 at 3:04pm
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Originally Posted by profhat View Post

In the other way I wonder if FUNAI or other company care about this lame sunset of the free TV recorder on the US. (Again HTPCs and TiVos don't count).


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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Yes, they do.


Then why are they not making 515s any more, if they "care"?
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post #19685 of 23758
3/22/12 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by theweight View Post

I see the the audio on my 'test run' is AC3, which is compressed. Are there any other options when dubbing or does the 3575 always default to AC3.

Yes, it's audio compression is always DD 2.0.

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post #19686 of 23758
3/23/12 at 7:21am
Just thought I would chime in with news of another straightforward and successful 727V FW update on a 2160A machine. Also have a 515H, so this will help by making things the same when using the remote. Thanks to all, especially Wajo, for the great info on this thread.
Steve
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post #19687 of 23758
3/23/12 at 9:20am
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Originally Posted by gastrof View Post

Then why are they not making 515s any more, if they "care"?

Perhaps because uninformed folks expect the 515 (and earlier HDD/DVD Recorders) to be a DVR replacement without cable company fees. When the customer discovers that it isn't a DVR they return it. Someone has to eat the loss in revenue, probably Funai.
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post #19688 of 23758
3/23/12 at 9:36am
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Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post

I've had over a dozen of those several years, 3/$5 or so at WalMart. They're only the best substitute I'm aware of for not needing bricks in the first place. Best is standard two prong from an internal power supply, like our Funais have, which fit in three-ways and convenience outlets that often can't fit a three prong plug, and rarely can fit a brick.

Hi, Unfortunately I do not expect the power bricks to go away anytime soon.

Almost every external drive / drive case I've seen uses them. I do have some older 5.25" external cases where the power supply is internal. Sadly the switch to SATA is making them obsolete.

Cheers
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post #19689 of 23758
3/23/12 at 9:42am
I suspect that with the proliferation of DVRs there is less and less demand for this product. The DVR is much more user friendly for the average person. And as you say, there has obviously been tons of returns for whatever reason and that is costing some major costs to someone.

I appreciate the product because it allows me to easily transfer programs to other TVs. I also have a hobby of making DVDs of top movies. But how many people like me are out there?

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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

Perhaps because uninformed folks expect the 515 (and earlier HDD/DVD Recorders) to be a DVR replacement without cable company fees. When the customer discovers that it isn't a DVR they return it. Someone has to eat the loss in revenue, probably Funai.
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post #19690 of 23758
3/23/12 at 9:49am
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Originally Posted by BIGA$$TV View Post

I suspect that with the proliferation of DVRs there is less and less demand for this product. The DVR is much more user friendly for the average person.

The poor economy has been reducing the numbers of cabul & sat subscribers, which should mean the number of OTA viewers is increasing. These machines salvage at least some of the convenience of monthly pay DVRs. Not paying subscription fees for 2-4 months covers the cost of a 515.
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post #19691 of 23758
3/23/12 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

Perhaps because uninformed folks expect the 515 (and earlier HDD/DVD Recorders) to be a DVR replacement without cable company fees. When the customer discovers that it isn't a DVR they return it. Someone has to eat the loss in revenue, probably Funai.

Well, it *can* be a replacement for a cableco DVR, as long as you can live without the point-n-shoot progrmming guide. It's not a machine for folks who never mastered manually programming a VCR.
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post #19692 of 23758
3/23/12 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post

The poor economy has been reducing the numbers of cabul & sat subscribers, which should mean the number of OTA viewers is increasing. These machines salvage at least some of the convenience of monthly pay DVRs. Not paying subscription fees for 2-4 months covers the cost of a 515.

Or are the folks who cut the cable/satellite cord going to Internet streaming of content?

There'd be some irony in my stockpile of backup Mag 2160s/513s/515s being rendered less useful by the demise of OTA broadcast TV.
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post #19693 of 23758
3/23/12 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by doswonk1 View Post

Or are the folks who cut the cable/satellite cord going to Internet streaming of content?


Likely big numbers are cutting the whole cord, not just the TV part. It's interesting to speculate on the proportions going part vs total. Real cost cutting without losing internet comes from going all the way down to the slowest DSL speed (or even POTS, yikes!), not suitable for streaming.
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post #19694 of 23758
3/23/12 at 12:21pm
If you believe Nielsen, a recent report showed approx. half of OTA-only viewers had hi-speed internet. Nielsen called all DSL hi speed. I know better. Nielsen had to get creative in their charts to make it look like streaming played an important role in OTA-only TV. They said something misleading like OTA viewers watch about half as much TV compared to payTV users, but twice as much streaming vid. And labeled this class of OTA viewers something like "broadband TV users." But looking at their numbers, it was clear that streaming did not displace broadcast TV. OTA-only viewers with 'hi speed' internet watched ~2 hours less TV per day, and streamed about 7 minutes a day. Of course, if Nielsen had defined hi speed internet more accurately, I would expect average streaming time to go up, but then they couldn't imply that half of OTA-land has replaced cable with streaming vid.
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post #19695 of 23758
3/23/12 at 1:19pm
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If you believe Nielsen, a recent report showed approx. half of OTA-only viewers had hi-speed internet. Nielsen called all DSL hi speed. I know better. Nielsen had to get creative in their charts to make it look like streaming played an important role in OTA-only TV. They said something misleading like OTA viewers watch about half as much TV compared to payTV users, but twice as much streaming vid. And labeled this class of OTA viewers something like "broadband TV users." But looking at their numbers, it was clear that streaming did not displace broadcast TV. OTA-only viewers with 'hi speed' internet watched ~2 hours less TV per day, and streamed about 7 minutes a day. Of course, if Nielsen had defined hi speed internet more accurately, I would expect average streaming time to go up, but then they couldn't imply that half of OTA-land has replaced cable with streaming vid.

I agree with you 200%. All the numbers are stupid. But the commercials are cute.

But what is next? I can't even speculate on that. And it's not really a topic for this thread anyhow.
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post #19696 of 23758
3/23/12 at 1:42pm
Stumbled across this while looking for an alternative to the possible demise of our beloved units.
Anybody seen this yet?

http://news.yahoo.com/primedtv-epvis...225819920.html

http://www.epvision.com/HDTVSTB/phdez1pre.htm
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post #19697 of 23758
3/23/12 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by morc258 View Post

Stumbled across this while looking for an alternative to the possible demise of our beloved units.
Anybody seen this yet?

http://news.yahoo.com/primedtv-epvis...225819920.html

Without a cable card feature that product wouldn't be so useful for those with cable.
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post #19698 of 23758
3/23/12 at 1:54pm
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

Without a cable card feature that product wouldn't be so useful for those with cable.

I currently only use clear QAM with the MDR513H, so it would work great for me.
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post #19699 of 23758
3/23/12 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by morc258 View Post

Stumbled across this while looking for an alternative to the possible demise of our beloved units.
Anybody seen this yet?

http://news.yahoo.com/primedtv-epvis...225819920.html

http://www.epvision.com/HDTVSTB/phdez1pre.htm

Ahh, to be so young. Start here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1262996&page=6

Then notice when the thread started. You do the math.
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post #19700 of 23758
3/23/12 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by morc258 View Post

I currently only use clear QAM with the MDR513H, so it would work great for me.

I look forward to your review as I am clear QAM also.
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post #19701 of 23758
3/23/12 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I look forward to your review as I am clear QAM also.

Thanks Joe, I'm reading that thread now.
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post #19702 of 23758
3/23/12 at 2:07pm
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Originally Posted by morc258 View Post

Thanks Joe, I'm reading that thread now.

Please ask questions, comment, and post your review IN THAT THREAD, NOT HERE!

There's also a thread specifically created for "future" discussion here.

There's also a thread for "board-level" mods and other tinkering-for-techies stuff here.

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post #19703 of 23758
3/23/12 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Please ask questions, comment, and post your review IN THAT THREAD, NOT HERE!

There's also a thread specifically created for "future" discussion here.

There's also a thread for "board-level" mods and other tinkering-for-techies stuff here.

I would hope so. It would not be very productive to discuss it here.
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post #19704 of 23758
3/24/12 at 3:30pm
I started to use the skip marks in the timer programming. They worked for the first week and when I checked again the following week, they still had check marks in them. Since all the programs were re-runs, i left them checked. When I turned on the Mags today, they were not there any longer and they just disappeared.
I read about the new update and apparently this was not a problem and the programs remained skipped until you unchecked the box.
Did the update fix that and should I try and update? This is the 1st problem I have had with the unit. I don't want to have to keep reprogramming them back in if I skip them for 2 weeks.
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post #19705 of 23758
3/24/12 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by rayfornario View Post

I don't want to have to keep reprogramming them back in if I skip them for 2 weeks.

I have 5 Vs. I don't recall any of them persisting a skip. IOW, I set a scheduled weekly, daily or M-F to skip, and after the next event that would otherwise have recorded passes, the skip mark is gone.
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post #19706 of 23758
3/24/12 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by rayfornario View Post

I read about the new update and apparently this was not a problem and the programs remained skipped until you unchecked the box.
Did the update fix that and should I try and update?

Seems like a good enough reason to update to SuperFW 727V (assuming you have a 515 w/older OEM FW?).

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post #19707 of 23758
3/24/12 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Seems like a good enough reason to update to SuperFW 727V (assuming you have a 515 w/older OEM FW?).

I have the original firmware but have been wary of updating
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post #19708 of 23758
3/24/12 at 4:43pm
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Originally Posted by rayfornario View Post

I have the original firmware but have been wary of updating

Well, 515 users don't have a reversion path like 513 or 2160A users have. Only prior FW available to us (w/o Funai intervention) is 727H, which would make a 515 operate like a 513.

If you install then don't like what SuperFW 727V does for you, you *might* be stuck w/a 513, but it would be "exciting" and informative.

HOWEVER, I'm pretty sure all known 515 upgraders have been OK with it.

Option is to use your SKIP program cautiously?

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post #19709 of 23758
3/24/12 at 4:47pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Well, 515 users don't have a reversion path like 513 or 2160A users have. Only prior FW available to us (w/o Funai intervention) is 727H, which would make a 515 operate like a 513.

If you don't like what SuperFW 727V does for you, you might be OK or stuck w/a 513, but it would be "exciting" and informative.

HOWEVER, I'm pretty sure all known 515 upgraders have been OK with it.

Option is to use your SKIP program cautiously?

I might just do that! Everything else works great. Now that alot of shows have reruns it was easy to do the skip program. I was hoping it would just stay skipped instead of erasing!
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post #19710 of 23758
3/24/12 at 4:55pm
I have firmware E2S02UD
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