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post #19741 of 23754
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post

Ha - I did go get one today for $12.95 - guess I should have checked the walmart.com price! Of course I probably invested another $10 in gas to get to the out-of-town WM anyway...

I set it up enough to edit last night's Mad Men - the big buttons are great for one-hand editing. For some reason it set up >>| & |<< on CH+ CH- - I moved them to the "P" buttons, and learned Skip/Replay on VOL+/-. Had to learn the Menu button too for some reason. Still pondering where to put Clear, open/close, HDD & DVD - too bad those can't be a one-button toggle...

Learning is super-easy so I'll play around with the layout to see what works best...

I think you'd like the P buttons to learn Replay & Skip so all the PLAY mode buttons are in the 2nd circle.

The VOL+/- button always works for TV volume unless you teach it otherwise and I thought virtually everyone WANTED there to be a TV volume button on the Mag remotes. Anyway, I left my Vol+/- button for TV volume, except I re-taught it the AVR volume for when I selected the AUX device for my AVR so it controlled the AVR volume instead of TV.

You might get some other ideas from my detailed description here?

post #19742 of 23754
I posted this issue in another thread, but so far there has been no solution, so since this is the big Magnavox thread, I'm hoping someone here knows how to solve it.


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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

One person who first wanted no date on family DVDs got it to work on a 357x, and I replicated it on my 3575. I don't know if anyone has used/tested it on a newer model. Interesting problem, requiring more tests... whoopee!
post #19743 of 23754
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Originally Posted by plplplpl View Post

I posted this issue in another thread, but so far there has been no solution, so since this is the big Magnavox thread, I'm hoping someone here knows how to solve it.

The fact that you say the clock reverted to a "default" date suggests you went into the clock menu after losing all settings... or maybe your unit (forgot which model) didn't completely lose all settings?

See Step 2 here, esp. re: the default clock warning. I just added DST off to Step 2 and made other changes to make crystal clear (I hope). I realized one explanation of non-success is if someone gets stuff on HDD, then does dubbing later, thinking non-dated HDD titles would retain no date???

We know it works/worked on at least two 357x units.

post #19744 of 23754
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

I think you'd like the P buttons to learn Replay & Skip so all the PLAY mode buttons are in the 2nd circle.

The VOL+/- button always works for TV volume unless you teach it otherwise and I thought virtually everyone WANTED there to be a TV volume button on the Mag remotes. Anyway, I left my Vol+/- button for TV volume, except I re-taught it the AVR volume for when I selected the AUX device for my AVR so it controlled the AVR volume instead of TV.

You might get some other ideas from my detailed description here?

this is a great remote for the price, with ( best i can tell ) ALL of the buttons fully programmable ( eg, recording IR commands from a source remote )...

i've bought 2 and they work fine for me... i use the ' P-up and P-dn' buttons as chapter buttons, and i use the 'blu' and 'red' buttons for the Skip Fwd and Skip Back functions. these make it most convenient for me to do my commercial edits.

only wish for this remote might be to have just a bit more space under the 'color' buttons so i could add some p-touch labels to describe them...

this remote is good for standardizing the various control buttons when one has both a Mag and a Philips machine as part of one's compliment...

i got so used to my 3576 remote that the mag remote seemed cumbersome searching for the equivalent keys for editing... after standardizing, i'm forcing myself to learn the positions, but at least they are the same for either machine...



rgds,
ron g
post #19745 of 23754
hi folks...

just a quick update on this. based on wajo's input, i figured i'd try a cheap attempt at cross polarization, using a pair of polarized ( polaroid ) sunglass lenses...

unfortunately, no-go... cross-pol does work for visible light, but the IR still makes it thru ... commercial IR polarizers are available, but way cost prohibitive...

for those really wanting to persue it further, the most likely best solution will either be IR to RF conversion, or to use a different wavelength altogether, such as something in the 850 to 900 nm range for the custom machine. or possibly go to the other end of the spectrum and implement UV instead of IR...

a suggestion was also made regarding visible light earlier in this thread, and possible use of filters for different colors. while i have not tested this, my guess is that there would not be sufficient range, although i could be wrong...

if i do anymore testing, i'll post over in the hi-tech thread...

rgds,
ron g
post #19746 of 23754
here's an interesting anomoly that i discovered when upgrading my 513 to the 727v super firmware... some may not have noticed this, or even experienced it, depending on how one sets up the clock after upgrade...

here's my sequence and what i discovered ( it really threw me at first )...

1 - do firmware upgrade ( regular procedure ) ( machine returns to factory defaults after this ).

2 - confirm auto-clock is off ( no physical changes, just view the entry )...

3 - confirm daylight savngs is on ( again, no physical changes, just view the entry )

4 - perform manual clock set procedure... ( change month, date, year )

5 - perform manual clock set... ( change hours, minutes, AM/PM )

6 - exit the menu and shutdown the machine....

while passing by the machine during the evening, i noted that the clock was displaying in ' 24 hour ' format, eg, at 8:15 PM, the clock was displaying ' 20:15 '

i turned the machine on, and all other time references were in standard 12 hour format, eg, 8:15 PM ...

i turned the machine off again, and the machine, once again, displayed the time in 24 hour format...

i turned on the machine again, and performed the clock set procedure, but only on the auto-clock and daylight savings portions, this time actually initializing the settings ( toggling them back and forth ).

after above, the machine now displays the time in 12 hour format after power down.

simple, but might throw folks off ( as it did me ) upon first observation...

rgds,
ron g
post #19747 of 23754
hi wajo et al...

a thought occured to me as i was typing the clock anomoly post...

perhaps the erratic ' skip ' behaviour could be related to an ' initialization ' issue, as i observed with the ' clock ' issue....

it could be that one needs to do 1 or more skip processes before all of the machine's memory locations get initialized to ' real values ' or some such thing...

just 2 cents worth, as i have yet to actually try the skip feature out...

i've experienced in the past with other computer related stuff, that folks writing software can be lazy about implementing such initialization within their software code, rendering these kinds of erratic ( and maddening ) behaviour; not really a bug, but major nuisance...

rgds,
ron g
post #19748 of 23754
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

The fact that you say the clock reverted to a "default" date suggests you went into the clock menu after losing all settings... or maybe your unit (forgot which model) didn't completely lose all settings?

See Step 2 here, esp. re: the default clock warning. I just added DST off to Step 2 and made other changes to make crystal clear (I hope). I realized one explanation of non-success is if someone gets stuff on HDD, then does dubbing later, thinking non-dated HDD titles would retain no date???

We know it works/worked on at least two 357x units.

Thanks, wajo. I'll give it another whirl. I'm pretty sure I followed all the original instructions to the letter, including resisting the temptation to go back into the clock menu and redoing a fresh VCR dub, but I don't remember if DST was off. It's certainly worth trying again, with your help.

It's a 515.
post #19749 of 23754
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Originally Posted by rkg22 View Post

hi wajo et al...

a thought occured to me as i was typing the clock anomoly post...

perhaps the erratic ' skip ' behaviour could be related to an ' initialization ' issue, as i observed with the ' clock ' issue....

it could be that one needs to do 1 or more skip processes before all of the machine's memory locations get initialized to ' real values ' or some such thing...

just 2 cents worth, as i have yet to actually try the skip feature out...

i've experienced in the past with other computer related stuff, that folks writing software can be lazy about implementing such initialization within their software code, rendering these kinds of erratic ( and maddening ) behaviour; not really a bug, but major nuisance...

rgds,
ron g

I found the scheduled recording that vaporized with the 2160A could be cured by just leaving the schedule menu (hence writing the data) before modification of any newly entered scheduled recording. With the addition of skip and pre-naming, modifications of a new item without leaving the schedule menu are probably more common these days.
post #19750 of 23754
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Originally Posted by plplplpl View Post

Thanks, wajo. I'll give it another whirl. I'm pretty sure I followed all the original instructions to the letter, including resisting the temptation to go back into the clock menu and redoing a fresh VCR dub, but I don't remember if DST was off. It's certainly worth trying again, with your help.

It's a 515.

I just realized that the 3575's no-date dubbing worked maybe cuz they don't auto-record in the background! Maybe AR requires a clock time?

Your test will be important to see if a "default date" creeps in w/o any Clock menu action, which we might be able to attribute to the background recording that's inevitable between getting "clean" machine and copying to the HDD.

Check HDD copy to see if date shows up there, or after dubbing or, hopefully, never!?

post #19751 of 23754
I'm not exactly sure of what you mean by "auto-record*," but I'm in the midst of testing my 515 again. I've now gone into the clock menu and turned both Auto Clock and DST off. It's now unplugged, and I'm thinking to leave it that way at least overnight just to be sure. Tomorrow, without going into the Clock Menu, I'll try another fresh VCR dub, then a High Speed Dub to DVD.

*Does this refer to automatically recording something on TV, for example, as you watch it, so you can go back and "instant"-replay it, or is it something else?
post #19752 of 23754
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Originally Posted by plplplpl View Post

I'm not exactly sure of what you mean by "auto-record*," but I'm in the midst of testing my 515 again. I've now gone into the clock menu and turned both Auto Clock and DST off. It's now unplugged, and I'm thinking to leave it that way at least overnight just to be sure. Tomorrow, without going into the Clock Menu, I'll try another fresh VCR dub, then a High Speed Dub to DVD.

*Does this refer to automatically recording something on TV, for example, as you watch it, so you can go back and "instant"-replay it, or is it something else?

Yes, the 3575's that worked don't record to a buffer like your 515... might have something to do with the clock picking up a "default" date/time (for time-stamping or something)???

Check title on HDD to look for date/time, then DVD to see if/when it might appear... maybe never this time?

Info on the 515's 6-hr buffer, PLTV, etc. is here.

post #19753 of 23754
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Yes, the 3575's that worked don't record to a buffer like your 515...

DON'T say it. DON'T. Don't....

There were 3575s that worked?
post #19754 of 23754
Can't speak to the 3575s, but my 3576 is rock solid and more responsive than either my 513 or 515.
post #19755 of 23754
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Here's a $10 7-device remote I'm using for my 3575, 2160/513/515, AVR, and Vizio HDTV in my main stack. ...

It looks like Walmart bumped up the on-line price on the SRP5107WM/17 to $12.98(+30%). I wonder if they spotted the traffic in this group.

I still think it is a great value. I bought my 1st for $12.98 and my 2nd for $10 at a different store. The price is now $12.98 at that store also.

I had been using the Walmart Philips 8 Device remotes in my Family Room and Master Bed Room, but I never even tried to set them up for my DVDRs. I thought trying to edit on those remotes would be a pain.

I have set up the SRP5107WM/17s to control the Family Room DVDR3576 and 2160A and the MBR DVDR3576 and the other regularly used equipment in both rooms. I like having the same keypad layout for editing on all 3 DVDRs. I believe I will soon get very comfortable with my layout.

I did hit a tiny issue. I tried to use the SAT and CBL buttons for my ancient Toshiba VCR, without success. Maybe I just wasn't patient enough during the scan. I did try the DVR/VCR button on the 2nd Remote when it was brand new, and that scan did work.
post #19756 of 23754
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Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post

I have 5 Vs. I don't recall any of them persisting a skip. IOW, I set a scheduled weekly, daily or M-F to skip, and after the next event that would otherwise have recorded passes, the skip mark is gone.
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

Simple test: enter a Sunday recording and while in the schedule menu, go back and set it to skip the first time. You don't need to add a name, just pretend it's a weekly recording you want to start a week from Sunday not tomorrrow. If you look at it on Monday, see if skip is still checked. If not, no bug and you can delete the title. Or leave it and see if the check goes away on its own. After adding the skip, the title should jump to the bottom of your scheduled titles. That would be logical.

I didn't do a test, but I just lost ~6 seconds at the start of a weekly Closer recording on TNT that the skip persisted on. I edited it to skip before last Monday night's basketball game. Then tonight before I noticed that the timer should have fired 1 minute before program start and didn't, it did start, and I didn't quite get to the manual record button fast enough.
post #19757 of 23754
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Originally Posted by kenavs View Post

It looks like Walmart bumped up the on-line price on the SRP5107WM/17 to $12.98(+30%). I wonder if they spotted the traffic in this group.

I still think it is a great value. I bought my 1st for $12.98 and my 2nd for $10 at a different store. The price is now $12.98 at that store also.

I did hit a tiny issue. I tried to use the SAT and CBL buttons for my ancient Toshiba VCR, without success. Maybe I just wasn't patient enough during the scan. I did try the DVR/VCR button on the 2nd Remote when it was brand new, and that scan did work.

The "HD" button is for any device, You might try that for your VCR?
post #19758 of 23754
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

The "HD" button is for any device, You might try that for your VCR?

In the Family Room, I am already using TV(Philips 42PF7320) DVR(2160A) DVD(Sony DVD player) HD(DVDR3576) and AUX(Technics Tuner/AMP).

The only available buttons are SAT and CBL which is why I was hoping that I could use one of them for the VCR.

I may take another try at the scan with those buttons, but I suspect that may be a dead end. I could always learn the necessary keys, since I only want to use the VCR as a player for some pre-recorder tapes. I am OTA, and there aren't any analog stations left, and I wouldn't want to record any that did exist.
post #19759 of 23754
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

I think you'd like the P buttons to learn Replay & Skip so all the PLAY mode buttons are in the 2nd circle.

The VOL+/- button always works for TV volume unless you teach it otherwise and I thought virtually everyone WANTED there to be a TV volume button on the Mag remotes. Anyway, I left my Vol+/- button for TV volume, except I re-taught it the AVR volume for when I selected the AUX device for my AVR so it controlled the AVR volume instead of TV.

You might get some other ideas from my detailed description here?


The P buttons seem to me to be natural chapter buttons - I don't see in your description where you put those?

My 2160 & 3576 are record&edit-only on an old spare-bedroom tube TV, so the volume rocker and for that matter the channel rocker serve no purpose. The TV gets turned on and off & swithed between the 2 device inputs, no other control is needed. Everything I record gets edited and dubbed to watch on the main setup downstairs - I have a Samsung player that can play unfinalized DVD+R's so no wear&tear on the 515 in that stack.

Having skip/replay on a nice big thumb-operable rocker like the 3576 remote is much better for me...
post #19760 of 23754
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post

The P buttons seem to me to be natural chapter buttons - I don't see in your description where you put those?

My 2160 & 3576 are record&edit-only on an old spare-bedroom tube TV, so the volume rocker and for that matter the channel rocker serve no purpose. The TV gets turned on and off & swithed between the 2 device inputs, no other control is needed. Everything I record gets edited and dubbed to watch on the main setup downstairs - I have a Samsung player that can play unfinalized DVD+R's so no wear&tear on the 515 in that stack.

Having skip/replay on a nice big thumb-operable rocker like the 3576 remote is much better for me...

My Chapter buttons are in "CC" (PREV) and "PREV.CH" (NEXT), on each end of bottom row... "PREV.CH" is Previous Channel button, not Previous Chapter. I put them on each end to remind me that left button is back and right is fwd.

It's a nice remote with lots of options for people with diff. needs and likes.

Your usage of recording upstairs and watching downstairs seems to cry out for a whole-house video sender like Auskck recommended: control upstairs unit from downstairs (Section 9f on pg 1)?
post #19761 of 23754
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

My Chapter buttons are in "CC" (PREV) and "PREV.CH" (NEXT), on each end of bottom row... "PREV.CH" is Previous Channel button, not Previous Chapter. I put them on each end to remind me that left button is back and right is fwd.

It's a nice remote with lots of options for people with diff. needs and likes.

Your usage of recording upstairs and watching downstairs seems to cry out for a whole-house video sender like Auskck recommended: control upstairs unit from downstairs (Section 9f on pg 1)?

My usage is probably not typical. I dub 99% of what I record, and typically don't watch until much later so it has to be off-loaded from the HDD anyway. I have to do near-daily dubbing to keep the HDD's from filling up. If a new show looks like it might be good, I record the first season but don't waste time watching until I know it's good enough to survive cancelation. So this summer it looks like we'll be watching Revenge and Person of Interest but passing on Terra Nova and Prime Suspect, to name a few. Some others like Alcatraz and Missing are still iffy at this point. I had high hopes for Awake but it's looking like a lost cause. (I learned my lesson watching Rubicon in real time - what a waste.)
post #19762 of 23754
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post


My usage is probably not typical. I dub 99% of what I record, and typically don't watch until much later so it has to be off-loaded from the HDD anyway. I have to do near-daily dubbing to keep the HDD's from filling up. If a new show looks like it might be good, I record the first season but don't waste time watching until I know it's good enough to survive cancelation. So this summer it looks like we'll be watching Revenge and Person of Interest but passing on Terra Nova and Prime Suspect, to name a few. Some others like Alcatraz and Missing are still iffy at this point. I had high hopes for Awake but it's looking like a lost cause. (I learned my lesson watching Rubicon in real time - what a waste.)

I've really enjoyed Person of Interest. It's somewhat far fetched but after all it is TV and not reality. I liked Terra Nova too and was sorry to see it not renewed. I think it had a lot of possibilities.
post #19763 of 23754
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post

My usage is probably not typical. I dub 99% of what I record, and typically don't watch until much later so it has to be off-loaded from the HDD anyway. I have to do near-daily dubbing to keep the HDD's from filling up. If a new show looks like it might be good, I record the first season but don't waste time watching until I know it's good enough to survive cancellation. So this summer it looks like we'll be watching Revenge and Person of Interest but passing on Terra Nova and Prime Suspect, to name a few. Some others like Alcatraz and Missing are still iffy at this point. I had high hopes for Awake but it's looking like a lost cause. (I learned my lesson watching Rubicon in real time - what a waste.)

I liked Prime Suspect and it was getting better. Pity. I watched every episode and enjoyed them. I knew it wasn't going to make it, so what. All shows end, sooner or later.

When you only watch what the public or the Wonks at the network like you are missing many great shows.

Rubicon, Whatever that is, was a waste because you didn't like it or because others didn't like it or because it was cancelled?

It really sounds like you decide what to watch based on the G.A.P. and not on your likes.

G.A.P. (Great American Public)

Cheers
post #19764 of 23754
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Originally Posted by TBoneit View Post

I liked Prime Suspect and it was getting better. Pity. I watched every episode and enjoyed them. I knew it wasn't going to make it, so what. All shows end, sooner or later.

When you only watch what the public or the Wonks at the network like you are missing many great shows.

Rubicon, Whatever that is, was a waste because you didn't like it or because others didn't like it or because it was cancelled?

It really sounds like you decide what to watch based on the G.A.P. and not on your likes.

G.A.P. (Great American Public)

Cheers

To get closer to the thread, 500gb does allow you to timeshift a whole season. Even 30 episodes at HQ leaves you space, since some shows are not thread based. The old L&O was like that. The 515H can hold so much content, I boxed up my DVD+RW disks and just use the HDD anymore.

I do agree with you though. If I like a major network show it will probably only last one season. They all keep trying to find the next Gunsmoke or M.A.S.H. and kill anything that costs too much. That's sad.
post #19765 of 23754
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Walmart raised its price on New 513's from already raised $250 to $280.

They no longer allow a peek at their stock level, so not sure if this indicates low stock sellout for max. profit, or closer match to Amazon's higher prices, or ?

post #19766 of 23754
Been a few months since I was here and bam, it's almost up to 700 pages!!!!!
Wow! Also missed the news about the Maggy 515 being discontinues and now Walmart today, just raised the price of the 513 to $279 when it was $249 yesterday. Sheesh, I blink and the whole thing changes!!!!
Mickboy
post #19767 of 23754
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Originally Posted by mickboy View Post

Been a few months since I was here and bam, it's almost up to 700 pages!!!!!
Wow! Also missed the news about the Maggy 515 being discontinues and now Walmart today, just raised the price of the 513 to $279 when it was $249 yesterday. Sheesh, I blink and the whole thing changes!!!!
Mickboy

... and you've only been gone for a little over a month.

Not to worry though, as "September" says on "Fringe," the universe will be restored!

Triangulate.

post #19768 of 23754
No Terra Nova ! Darn, I might as well sell my 515

So frustrating. Actually had the better half watching it with me. which is not easy with prime time Sci Fi.

I really think there should be a law where if you start a show that should have a completion you should at least have one more episode to complete it.

Mars left me hanging a few years ago that way.

But no one listens to me anyway. Typically if I like a show it will be dropped.

At least Fringe is still out there but the better half wont watch it, to creepy or confusing or something like that.

Maybe this is why the Funai is not building a replacement - no shows to record ;(
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Originally Posted by DonB2 View Post

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Maybe this is why the Funai is not building a replacement - no shows to record ;(

That was the same argument Paramount used to cancel the original Star Trek - no good stories to sell. That worked well too.
post #19770 of 23754
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A Story About Funai's "Marketing" Department

You might have noticed that Funai NEVER advertises its products in advance, UNlike the MANY other companies that not only announce their new product development plans, advertise new products (sometimes YEARS in advance), and even take "pre-orders."

I might have found a reason for their "shyness"... they apparently do not have a "Marketing" person, much less a "Department."

A recent press conference at Funai HQ in Osaka, Japan, had this reporter/Funai Q&A:

Reporter: Why don't you do more Marketing?

Funai: We're not in the grocery business.

¿Comprende?

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