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post #21301 of 23915
8/12/12 at 10:26am
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Here's the help file on HDMI control.

Wajo, Thanks so much! I followed your excellent instructions and solved that very quickly.

Someday I want to revisit stacking because I could not figure out how to connect the 2 Maggies together. My solution was to keep my extra 513 plugged into AC and sitting on a table next to the one in use, but turned 90 degrees to the side (so as not to be affected when using the other 513’s remote). It is only connected to AC, and I swap them out by unhooking HDMI (TV to Maggie), coax from cable box, and coax out to TV of the one in use and moving them to the other one. That works great, and I don’t swap very often. I suppose it doesn’t hurt the “not-in-use” 513 to be plugged into AC while waiting its turn? Does it?? Thanks.
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post #21302 of 23915
8/12/12 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by BIGA$$TV View Post

Oh, and I'm still wondering why you are using L2 rather than L1 (located on the back of the Mag.). You like having wires hanging from the front of your equipment?
The Dish box feeds L1 via S-Video.

S790 has no S-Video or Component.
Edited by JoeKustra - 8/12/12 at 11:15am
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post #21303 of 23915
8/12/12 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Artwire, sorry for your loss. I still suspect the houseguest or someone else based on the HQ recording of a subchannel,YOU never record from.

Did you try a Soft Reset? It would make ME feel better. -smile.gif


unfortunately, the soft reset didn't help, but it was worth a try. Thanks for the suggestion
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post #21304 of 23915
8/12/12 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Here's the help file on HDMI control.

Wajo, Thanks so much! I followed your excellent instructions and solved that very quickly.

Someday I want to revisit stacking because I could not figure out how to connect the 2 Maggies together. My solution was to keep my extra 513 plugged into AC and sitting on a table next to the one in use, but turned 90 degrees to the side (so as not to be affected when using the other 513’s remote). It is only connected to AC, and I swap them out by unhooking HDMI (TV to Maggie), coax from cable box, and coax out to TV of the one in use and moving them to the other one. That works great, and I don’t swap very often. I suppose it doesn’t hurt the “not-in-use” 513 to be plugged into AC while waiting its turn? Does it?? Thanks.

 

Don't be swapping HDMI cables on "hot" equipment. HDMI maintains a comm. link between the TV and your DVDR and the rare possibility that you could zap something by connecting/reconnecting with units plugged into power is not worth the risk. Both TVs and this DVDR have Standby power at all times they're plugged in.

 

In fact, Funai recommends connecting cables with both units unplugged from power... it's Step 1 in each Connection procedure. (I know, I know, we get away with "hot-swapping" all the time... except that one time when ....!)

 

If you only have one HDMI input on your TV, use Component RGB or composite or S-Video, or get an HDMI switch, which can be manually switched or automatic, dep. on how much you want to spend. Or get a new TV with more HDMI inputs

 

You can stack units and run the incoming coax to one unit, then coax out to next unit, and coax out from last unit to TV or other downstream component.

 

You can then use "Kluges" (barriers) as shown here to operate just the "target" unit. With two same brand units, You only need one barrier which you move to make one unit the "target" for ops.

 

I suggest you click the 1st link in my signature and bookmark that indexed list of help files.


Edited by wajo - 8/12/12 at 11:19am
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post #21305 of 23915
8/12/12 at 6:49pm
Lately the DVD door on my 515 is 'sticking' when I try to open it. I have to nudge it down for it to open all the way. Is there an adjustment or something I can do to make the door come down and open the tray? confused.gif
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post #21306 of 23915
8/12/12 at 7:24pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Don't be swapping HDMI cables on "hot" equipment. HDMI maintains a comm. link between the TV and your DVDR and the rare possibility that you could zap something by connecting/reconnecting with units plugged into power is not worth the risk. Both TVs and this DVDR have Standby power at all times they're plugged in.

In fact, Funai recommends connecting cables with both units unplugged from power... it's Step 1 in each Connection procedure. (I know, I know, we get away with "hot-swapping" all the time... except that one time when ....!)

If you only have one HDMI input on your TV, use Component RGB or composite or S-Video, or get an HDMI switch, which can be manually switched or automatic, dep. on how much you want to spend. Or get a new TV with more HDMI inputs

You can stack units and run the incoming coax to one unit, then coax out to next unit, and coax out from last unit to TV or other downstream component.

You can then use "Kluges" (barriers) as shown here to operate just the "target" unit. With two same brand units, You only need one barrier which you move to make one unit the "target" for ops.

I suggest you click the 1st link in my signature and bookmark that indexed list of help files.

Thank you for all this valuable information, and I appreciate your help files very much. I am enjoying my Maggies a lot.
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post #21307 of 23915
8/13/12 at 7:48am
515 PARTS UNAVAILABLE???????

A couple months back I wrote about an issue I was having with the DVD Burner in my 515. So I finally broke down and contacted Funai in an effort to buy a replacement burner per the link and info in Wajo's stickie. Here is their reply:

"Hello,
That would be part number N78F3FUN but it has been discontinued. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thank You,

Jenn Daniels
Parts administrator"

Soooooo I am not very happy at this point. I had recorded a total of about 6 DVD's on my 515 when it failed. Now I can't get a replacement burner??? Do I have any other options or any suggestions on how to get one?

Thanks,
KC
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post #21308 of 23915
8/13/12 at 12:52pm
It almost sounds like you could go to your local electronics store, buy a $20 DVD burner, crack open the case and install the laser/tray mechanism into one of these... not that I'm going to try it (at the moment).

Btw, has anyone been ballsy enough to attempt flashing the Maggie universal firmware update to a Philips unit? Obviously I can't see anyone trying it unless it was a last resort since I know of no available Philips f/w to reflash should things go badly.
It'd just be nice to get some of the new features... assuming it doesn't remove others (like DivX playback and support for the USB port).
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post #21309 of 23915
8/13/12 at 1:05pm
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It almost sounds like you could go to your local electronics store, buy a $20 DVD burner, crack open the case and install the laser/tray mechanism into one of these... not that I'm going to try it (at the moment).

Btw, has anyone been ballsy enough to attempt flashing the Maggie universal firmware update to a Philips unit? Obviously I can't see anyone trying it unless it was a last resort since I know of no available Philips f/w to reflash should things go badly.
It'd just be nice to get some of the new features... assuming it doesn't remove others (like DivX playback and support for the USB port).

 

It won't load in a 3575 or orig.2160, but it WILL scare the crap out of you... it'll grind and grind as if it's doing something bad... where you'll say "Maybe I shouldn't have started this!?..., then it'll say it couldn't update. Thankfully, no harm... at least here... one time... never to be repeated again.

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post #21310 of 23915
8/13/12 at 2:25pm
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Originally Posted by K2E2C View Post

515 PARTS UNAVAILABLE???????
A couple months back I wrote about an issue I was having with the DVD Burner in my 515. So I finally broke down and contacted Funai in an effort to buy a replacement burner per the link and info in Wajo's stickie. Here is their reply:
"Hello,
That would be part number N78F3FUN but it has been discontinued. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Thank You,
Jenn Daniels
Parts administrator"
Soooooo I am not very happy at this point. I had recorded a total of about 6 DVD's on my 515 when it failed. Now I can't get a replacement burner??? Do I have any other options or any suggestions on how to get one?
Thanks,
KC
Ms. Daniels response doesn't make sense. New MDR515's were available from WalMart (and others) just a few months ago, and as the warranty on a new unit is 1 year parts/90 days labor, Funai would be in breach of their own warranty policy if they couldn't provide parts.

What does Funai's own service facility do when a customer sends a defective MDR515 to them for warranty repair? confused.gif

Possibly Ms. Daniels meant to say they were currently out-of-stock on the replacement MDR515 burners. Suggest you phone her (614-497-2689 ext.110) and ask how they repair MDR515's with similar problems, which are still under warranty.
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PS - If 234 reads this, perhaps he can clarify the availability of that part.
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post #21311 of 23915
8/13/12 at 11:28pm
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Originally Posted by K2E2C View Post

515 PARTS UNAVAILABLE???????
A couple months back I wrote about an issue I was having with the DVD Burner in my 515. So I finally broke down and contacted Funai in an effort to buy a replacement burner per the link and info in Wajo's stickie. Here is their reply:
"Hello, That would be part number N78F3FUN but it has been discontinued. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Thank You,
Jenn Daniels
Parts administrator"
Thanks,
KC

FYI....when I asked Funai Parts (by e-mail) in December 2011, Jenn Daniels gave me the same response regarding the availability of the Magnavox MDR515H's DVD burner (N78F3FUN has been discontinued). Perhaps when they do warranty work at Funai, they are using the N78F0FUN for DVD burner repairs for both the Mag 513 and 515?? They are both 8x burners. Just a guess.
As WAJO indicated about 4 posts above, the N78F0FUN DVD burner is compatible with the Mag 515 (in your situation, replace the burner only - do not replace the included green PCB).
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post #21312 of 23915
8/14/12 at 8:27am
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Originally Posted by BIGA$$TV View Post

If you have it working now, why do you want to change it? Using a converter with one of the HDMI outputs from the Sony won't give you anything you don't have now. I hope you're not expecting to see/record HD from your Sony 'cuz that ain't going to happen. Are you getting getting widescreen from the composite outputs? If not, that would be the only reason to use a converter. Oh, and I'm still wondering why you are using L2 rather than L1 (located on the back of the Mag.). You like having wires hanging from the front of your equipment?

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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

The Dish box feeds L1 via S-Video.
S790 has no S-Video or Component.

Thanks to both of you.
JoeKustra answered the question and really understands the situation best. Reading my posts and the several responses leaves my issue unresolved other than using L2 or disconnecting what I have connected to L1. Months ago I posted my hardware and its connections. Since then what has changed is the deletion of the DVD replaced with a Sony BD with all its specs. My only need is to record streamed video using the mag 515. Simple as that. Wajo suggested splitting the L1 composite feeds with an adapter. Tried it, doesn't work--records the audio from the Sony but the video from the program (satellite) running on L1. I think one way around this would be to disconnect the S-video that is being used as a feed from the Satellite receiver and use the yellow video as an input. Not sure how this can keep the Sony stream separate from the satellite program that would be running--probably turn off the satellite receiver is the answer to this.

For now, have composite cables hanging in front of the maggy. Works, not too elegant of a solution. Still does not use the HDMI out on the Sony. Have to go into Sony setup to change to Video from the normal HDMI out when recording to the maggy each time, then switch back to HDMI when playing BD.
Thanks for all the suggestions and help.
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post #21313 of 23915
8/14/12 at 9:03am
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Originally Posted by excolprof View Post

Thanks to both of you.
JoeKustra answered the question and really understands the situation best. Reading my posts and the several responses leaves my issue unresolved other than using L2 or disconnecting what I have connected to L1. Months ago I posted my hardware and its connections. Since then what has changed is the deletion of the DVD replaced with a Sony BD with all its specs. My only need is to record streamed video using the mag 515. Simple as that. Wajo suggested splitting the L1 composite feeds with an adapter. Tried it, doesn't work--records the audio from the Sony but the video from the program (satellite) running on L1. I think one way around this would be to disconnect the S-video that is being used as a feed from the Satellite receiver and use the yellow video as an input. Not sure how this can keep the Sony stream separate from the satellite program that would be running--probably turn off the satellite receiver is the answer to this.
For now, have composite cables hanging in front of the maggy. Works, not too elegant of a solution. Still does not use the HDMI out on the Sony. Have to go into Sony setup to change to Video from the normal HDMI out when recording to the maggy each time, then switch back to HDMI when playing BD.
Thanks for all the suggestions and help.

It's mostly a gravity situation. There are good A-B switches that would allow switching the input to the Mag, but you need to do that manually. I had two, one for optical and one for digital coax until buying my AVR. I found "remote controlled" or "automatic" switching unreliable. And we all need more time walking. [joke] I never found a composite switcher, but there are many component switchers. I never looked for an S-Video/Composite switcher, which would be the best solution if your dish has that output. You can use the S-Video and yellow wire, but you would need to go into the setup menu to change it. That's your choice. My old S570 doesn't have your BD issue. Sony is always "improving" things.
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post #21314 of 23915
8/14/12 at 9:23am
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I never found a composite switcher
They exist. My old one was bleeding down audio level, so last week I bought this to replace it.
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post #21315 of 23915
8/14/12 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by excolprof View Post

. . . splitting the L1 composite feeds with an adapter. Tried it, doesn't work--records the audio from the Sony but the video from the program (satellite) running on L1.
Never a good idea to combine outputs with a "Y" cable to feed an input. You get all kinds of impedance mismatches and output stages fighting each other -- you can damage your equipment. Unless I'm missing something why not just buy an AV switch box that is made for this kind of thing. There are plenty on the market for use with TV's that have only one input and multiple devices you want to feed into that input. You just flip a switch to select which device you want to record from -- all the others are isolated from the channel.
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post #21316 of 23915
8/14/12 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post

They exist. My old one was bleeding down audio level, so last week I bought this to replace it.
That's a better solution than the $650 I paid for my AVR. But I wasn't trying to capture anything, just switch a lot of stuff.
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post #21317 of 23915
8/14/12 at 10:17am
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

It's mostly a gravity situation. There are good A-B switches that would allow switching the input to the Mag, but you need to do that manually. I had two, one for optical and one for digital coax until buying my AVR. I found "remote controlled" or "automatic" switching unreliable. And we all need more time walking. [joke] I never found a composite switcher, but there are many component switchers. I never looked for an S-Video/Composite switcher, which would be the best solution if your dish has that output. You can use the S-Video and yellow wire, but you would need to go into the setup menu to change it. That's your choice. My old S570 doesn't have your BD issue. Sony is always "improving" things.

I don't know what your experience is, but I have used THIS for a long time with no issues at all. There is no cross-talk, and th remote is reliable. It isn't automatic, but for under $20, what more can you ask? I know it says component, but it really doesn't know, right? If you want to use composite, just use the R/L audio plugs, and one of the RGB plugs for the composite signal. No, it doesn't have S-Video connectors or plugs.
Edited by Church AV Guy - 8/14/12 at 1:44pm
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8/14/12 at 1:44pm
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Originally Posted by excolprof View Post

Thanks to both of you.
JoeKustra answered the question and really understands the situation best. Reading my posts and the several responses leaves my issue unresolved other than using L2 or disconnecting what I have connected to L1. Months ago I posted my hardware and its connections. Since then what has changed is the deletion of the DVD replaced with a Sony BD with all its specs. My only need is to record streamed video using the mag 515. Simple as that. Wajo suggested splitting the L1 composite feeds with an adapter. Tried it, doesn't work--records the audio from the Sony but the video from the program (satellite) running on L1. I think one way around this would be to disconnect the S-video that is being used as a feed from the Satellite receiver and use the yellow video as an input. Not sure how this can keep the Sony stream separate from the satellite program that would be running--probably turn off the satellite receiver is the answer to this.

For now, have composite cables hanging in front of the maggy. Works, not too elegant of a solution. Still does not use the HDMI out on the Sony. Have to go into Sony setup to change to Video from the normal HDMI out when recording to the maggy each time, then switch back to HDMI when playing BD.
Thanks for all the suggestions and help.

 

No, I didn't say split the composite video with an adapter. I said split the AUDIO (L/R or red/white) from your sources to L1 or L2 of the Mag with two Y-adapters (audio cables).

 

For video, I suggested using the Mag's Video > Video Input menu to select either composite yellow or S-Video VIDEO input, depending on which source you were using at any one time.


Edited by wajo - 8/14/12 at 3:15pm
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post #21319 of 23915
8/14/12 at 6:46pm
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I contacted parts@funai service.com on what DVD burners were still available. They responded with the following [model # added in brackets]:

 

N78F3FUN- not available [8X, 515]

N78F0FUN-available [8X, 513 & 2160A]

N78F8EUN-available [8X, 2160]

N78F4DUN-available [4X, 2080]

 

I asked about the lack of 515 burners while some units were still in warranty... no explanation given.

 

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Edited by wajo - 8/15/12 at 2:16pm
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post #21320 of 23915
8/15/12 at 6:33am
Thanks Wajo, I tried to call Funai to order the N78F0FUN burner (for my 515) and after being placed on hold and transferred twice I was told I had to do it via e-mail. I just sent the e-mail requesting to purchase the N780F0FUN and am awaiting a response. Hopefully they'll let me buy this one and I can install just the burner in my 515. Holding my breath that it's not actually the board that is causing the problem!
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post #21321 of 23915
8/15/12 at 6:51am
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Originally Posted by K2E2C View Post

Thanks Wajo, I tried to call Funai to order the N78F0FUN burner (for my 515) and after being placed on hold and transferred twice I was told I had to do it via e-mail. I just sent the e-mail requesting to purchase the N780F0FUN and am awaiting a response. Hopefully they'll let me buy this one and I can install just the burner in my 515. Holding my breath that it's not actually the board that is causing the problem!

 I don't remember your story but it seems unusual that a burner in a 515 could be bad.

 

Have you tried a SKIP 079 HDD/DVD Self Check, Step 1, as described here, to see if connections are OK?

 

At least one person has found that the ribbon cable to his DVD burner was loose when he opened the case and removed it, and the cable fell off!

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post #21322 of 23915
8/15/12 at 7:04am
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

 it seems unusual that a burner in a 515 could be bad.
Based on my experience with 2 2160As, 2 513s and 1 515, experiences of others reported here, and the fact that the 515 burner is NLA, I suspect the 515's burner to have been a marginal or flawed design, or had a high number of out of spec examples escape into the wild. Whether warranty repair centers have a supply of them, are using 513 burners, or use something else when replacement is called for remains to be determined. Maybe our friendly 234 could investigate this and report here.
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post #21323 of 23915
8/15/12 at 8:02am
Another possibility for unavailable 515 burners is that Funai has committed its entire warehouse supply of these burners to the new model Magnavoxes it is supposed to be manufacturing.
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post #21324 of 23915
8/15/12 at 8:41am
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The 515 burner issue might also just be a "glitch" in their inventory system since Funai answered my follow-up question on whether they might be getting more with a note that they don't know, the burner just doesn't appear in their list of items to order.

 

I'm thinking the burner might not "be in the list" but some checking, if they qwere so inclined, would reveal it's just a "glitch."

 

I think I'll risk another inquiry on whether they might check with HQ and see if it's just a glitch in the system.

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8/15/12 at 9:44am
Went over to Maganavox MDR515H still listed. Clicked on where to buy

Answer

Coming soon..............
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post #21326 of 23915
8/15/12 at 9:52am
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Went over to Maganavox MDR515H still listed. Clicked on where to buy
Answer
Coming soon..............

513H through 515H are no longer in production, Next comes 533H through 537H. There will be a gap in supply. Web pages are hard to maintain. Patience is even harder. Except for remotes and disk capacity there isn't any known significant changes from the 515H. It's the same story with the Channel Master CM-7400. Well, maybe there is more speculation with the CM7400.
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8/15/12 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

The 515 burner issue might also just be a "glitch" in their inventory system since Funai answered my follow-up question on whether they might be getting more with a note that they don't know, the burner just doesn't appear in their list of items to order.

 

I'm thinking the burner might not "be in the list" but some checking, if they qwere so inclined, would reveal it's just a "glitch."

 

I think I'll risk another inquiry on whether they might check with HQ and see if it's just a glitch in the system.

 

No glitch. "Warranty/Technical" advises that 515's needing burner replacement wiil be exchanged only... for what, they didn't say... maybe a new 533 or 535... just dreamin'?

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8/15/12 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

"Warranty/Technical" advises that 515's needing burner replacement wiil be exchanged only... for what, they didn't say... maybe a new 533 or 535... just dreamin'?
Would be interesting to find out how one with an extended warranty plan would have such a problem dealt with.
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8/15/12 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by mrmazda View Post

Would be interesting to find out how one with an extended warranty plan would have such a problem dealt with.

Back when my 3575 proved to be defective, I waited much too long for the promised replacement, and finally wrote them asking "WHERE is my recorder?"

I received a 3576 pretty quick.

I'm gong to guess if one of the older Maggies needed to be fixed or replaced, that's just what'd happen, even if a replacment had to be a newer model.
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8/15/12 at 3:39pm
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In Feet We Trust

 

I just learned a lesson on adding feet to our electronic junk.

 

I had my DSL modem sitting on top of my router, both laying flat, and happened to feel them after a couple of hours in op. Both were "fairly hot."

 

I decided to add very small silicone feet, ~1/4" high, and now both units are "barely warm."

 

Who would have thought such a small gap between components would make such a big difference!?

 

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