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post #21361 of 25409
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Originally Posted by doswonk1 View Post

One question: Has anybody had success using a UPS not only to keep the juice going to a DVDR to cover power outages, but also to RUN a Funai DVDR for a recording?
Obviously, running the machine for any length of time is going to take a UPS unit with a much larger battery.

I have pretty bad power, only having 5 outages this year. My main system, using the 515H, runs from an APC 1500VA with added battery pack. I have made recordings during an outage. My longest outage was 12 hours in recent past, but 18 hours happened 11/11/10 (I have a DVR that saves that data).

I use a cheap 1500VA for my computer and a cheaper and smaller walmart unit for my bedroom TV and one real old unit for the FM amp in my attic.

Nothing has ever died from a power issue. I can watch TV (if I'm stupid) for 90 minutes from the main UPS. I tried it once. It took 8 hours to recharge.

I use a 1500W inverter to power my fridge if the outage goes over an hour. It runs off a really big marine battery but has paid for itself twice over. I could plug my oil burner into it if needed.

Not having an even small UPS is like driving a car without a spare tire. I also have some 12V LED spotlights too.
Edited by JoeKustra - 8/22/12 at 1:13pm
post #21362 of 25409
Well, I flipped for one of these. Curiously enough, the same UPS appears to be sold by Panamax for, like, 2.5x the CyberPower price.

It may be a bit of overkill for my goal: having the UPS even out the spikes and dips in the incoming power feed, keep residual power going to the DVDR so I don't lose my clock and timers during power outages, AND have enough juice to run the thing for a few hours to record programs. I don't need to run a ton of gear on the UPS - actually nothing beyond the DVDR. (Actually, if there is a big thunderstorm going on, my OTA reception will probably break up anyway.) A big issue is that sometimes we have thunderstorms predicted for a time when I'm at work or away from home for the weekend and I want to record something. I've had to pass up recordings I wanted to make, just because I didn't want to risk having the recorder connected to the Grid if a weather event occurs. Then the weather turns out to be totally fine and I've missed the recording.

This gets serious when I'm trying to catch, say, a Metropolitan Opera telecast, which my local PBS station will run only ONCE. Miss it and it's gone. If I could set the timer well ahead of time and leave it, good. But sometimes I've had the whole rig unplugged due to weather concerns, then forget to set the timer for the recording. eek.gif Of course, I can wait for the commercial DVD to come out (most MET telecasts seem to get released), but part of the purpose of time shifting is to *see* it before I invest in the commercial release.

If the CyperPower unit doesn't work out, I can just repurpose the thing to the computer room.
post #21363 of 25409
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Originally Posted by doswonk1 View Post

Well, I flipped for one of these. Curiously enough, the same UPS appears to be sold by Panamax for, like, 2.5x the CyberPower price.

I use the 1500VA model to power my computer, monitor, modems and router. Answering machine too. After a year I can report no problems. I have it set for low sensitivity and have removed the driver from my computer and put a piece of black tape over that sparkling blue LED.
post #21364 of 25409
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I use the 1500VA model to power my computer, monitor, modems and router. Answering machine too. After a year I can report no problems. I have it set for low sensitivity and have removed the driver from my computer and put a piece of black tape over that sparkling blue LED.

Good to hear. Sounds like it'll do what I want it to do. Heck, might even have enough juice to run my little Toshiba 19" LCD flat panel for a bit.....
post #21365 of 25409
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Good to hear. Sounds like it'll do what I want it to do. Heck, might even have enough juice to run my little Toshiba 19" LCD flat panel for a bit.....
Run it: yes. For long: unknown. I use my laptop & DSL modem for updates I can get from my power company. It always starts as "two" hours. I start to worry when it jumps to "four". Like most of us, there are the short (< 1 second) ones and the long ones. I got a letter from my supplier that states they will kill power for six seconds just to check the lines. Most people in this area have smart meters, so I can monitor several counties & watch the progress while listening to a small clock radio in the dark.

Should the power fail for over 30 minutes I connect an 1500W inverter to my fridge. Keeps the wine cold. A UPS can't do that.
post #21366 of 25409
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Originally Posted by doswonk1 View Post

Well, I flipped for one of these. Curiously enough, the same UPS appears to be sold by Panamax for, like, 2.5x the CyberPower price.

I have the same one and have 3 of my Maggies on it. To date I've never had a power outage when they were recording so I don't know how long it will last that way but it easily handled a 3 hour outage while in standby. I agree on covering the blasted bright lighted power button. I took a sticky note blacked out with a marker and covered the button with it. You also might want to silence the alarm so you don't have to listen to the beeping while the power is out.
post #21367 of 25409
Is here a thread with clear instructions on how to change the internal battery of a Chicago Power UPS?
post #21368 of 25409
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Originally Posted by profhat View Post

Is here a thread with clear instructions on how to change the internal battery of a Chicago Power UPS?
Speculation: start here http://cdpups.com/cms_content.asp?cmsid=11
post #21369 of 25409
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In Feet We Trust

I just learned a lesson on adding feet to our electronic junk.

I had my DSL modem sitting on top of my router, both laying flat, and happened to feel them after a couple of hours in op. Both were "fairly hot."

I decided to add very small silicone feet, ~1/4" high, and now both units are "barely warm."

Who would have thought such a small gap between components would make such a big difference!?

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Wajo-

Where'd you get the "feet"? Radio Shack? Hardware store?
post #21370 of 25409
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In Feet We Trust

I just learned a lesson on adding feet to our electronic junk.

I had my DSL modem sitting on top of my router, both laying flat, and happened to feel them after a couple of hours in op. Both were "fairly hot."

I decided to add very small silicone feet, ~1/4" high, and now both units are "barely warm."

Who would have thought such a small gap between components would make such a big difference!?

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Wajo-

Where'd you get the "feet"? Radio Shack? Hardware store?

 

I got them either at Walmart or Lowe's. Walmart used to carry all sizes of clear silicone feet, inclduing my favorite ~3/8" high ones, but they seem to carry only felt in my store lately.

 

My wife/CFO says she thinks they might have come from Lowe's. I suppose RS should have some too?

post #21371 of 25409
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Wajo-

Where'd you get the "feet"? Radio Shack? Hardware store?
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I got them either at Walmart or Lowe's. Walmart used to carry all sizes of clear silicone feet, inclduing my favorite ~3/8" high ones, but they seem to carry only felt in my store lately.

My wife/CFO says she thinks they might have come from Lowe's. I suppose RS should have some too?

I saw some at Radio Shack last weekend. I wasn't looking for them so I barely noticed, but I remember seeing them. They were very small though, at least the ones I saw. These are available on-line from Amazon.
post #21372 of 25409
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

You may already have Feature #1. Check out this Auto Clock help file on "The 11:57 Procedure."

Feature #2 will not happen, but these machines are relatively easy to set up for Dock-and-Play of unlimited number of HDDs, as described here.

[1] I used your 11:57 procedure to set my 2160a's to Fox for auto time set. It appears to be working very good. Thanks Wajo.

[2] That dock & play looks interesting - but it is more than I am willing to take on. I am looking for something very simple.

Jer
post #21373 of 25409
There are a couple situations on TV that gave me trouble trying to record some of my favorite TV series last season. I thought I would throw them out to see if any of you geniuses figured a way to record the full show without missing the beginning or the end.

[1] A few shows either start a minute or two after the hour - or end a minute or two after the hour. If they do this consistently for the full season, this is not a big problem picking up the shows. Does anybody know if they do this for the full season - or does it vary throughout the season? For those that run past the hour 1-2 minutes, it messes up the next recording if it is on another channel. I don't see any solution to this.

[2] Sunday afternoon football on CBS gives me a real headache. I like to record the 9:00 PM show on CBS, but do not know how to set my recorder. I guess I could set it to start at 9:00 and end at 11:00, but then my DVR is not available to record a 10:00 PM show on another station.

Jer
post #21374 of 25409
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Originally Posted by JER01 View Post

There are a couple situations on TV that gave me trouble trying to record some of my favorite TV series last season. I thought I would throw them out to see if any of you geniuses figured a way to record the full show without missing the beginning or the end.

[1] A few shows either start a minute or two after the hour - or end a minute or two after the hour. If they do this consistently for the full season, this is not a big problem picking up the shows. Does anybody know if they do this for the full season - or does it vary throughout the season? For those that run past the hour 1-2 minutes, it messes up the next recording if it is on another channel. I don't see any solution to this.

[2] Sunday afternoon football on CBS gives me a real headache. I like to record the 9:00 PM show on CBS, but do not know how to set my recorder. I guess I could set it to start at 9:00 and end at 11:00, but then my DVR is not available to record a 10:00 PM show on another station.

Jer

Start times?

I always set the machine to start at least three minutes early, and run five minutes long. Back-to-back shows? Use a different recorder, unless they're on the same channel.

Same thing with shows that start late due to sports. Dedicate one machine to that show and channel. A show on another channel the same night? Tough noogies. Use a different recorder.

It's the only sane way to handle things, unless you want to sit there live and control the recorder yourself. Even then what you want might not be doable.
post #21375 of 25409
Just a couple of suggestions for you as I have the history of over 30 years of recording behind me.

[1] If you're recording off broadcast tv setting the mag to go off a couple of minutes after an hour is always a good idea. If you have back to back shows you may want to check the end time on www.zap2it.com before recording. For example this Monday Night on ABC the listing shows Castle starting at 10:01pm EDT.
Off Broadcast you may have to choose to miss the first minute of the next show not to miss an ending.

If you're on Cable or Satellite you have some additional options. If you're watching/recording shows on some cable networks like A&E, History, E! and others the shows the run from 8 - midnight are often replayed from midnight to 4. That way you can record your network program in prime time and record the cable networks overnight.

Also, If you're on a Cable system with a digital box check your PPV Listings. Most cable companies now offer many Network (and Cable Networks) Programs on an on demand basis at no charge. Many times you can just wait until the next day (thats when they're normally availabe) to order it. In some cases they won't allow you to Fast Forward through the commercials so just record it and FF through later.

As far as the Sunday Night after Football situation ... My DVR is set to record from 8 - Midnight ... I'm not missing the Amazing Race ( but is available tomorrow On Demand)

Hope that helps .... Later, Big Ronnie
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post #21376 of 25409
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Originally Posted by BigRonnie View Post

Just a couple of suggestions for you as I have the history of over 30 years of recording behind me.
[1] If you're recording off broadcast tv setting the mag to go off a couple of minutes after an hour is always a good idea. If you have back to back shows you may want to check the end time on www.zap2it.com before recording. For example this Monday Night on ABC the listing shows Castle starting at 10:01pm EDT.
Off Broadcast you may have to choose to miss the first minute of the next show not to miss an ending.
Hope that helps .... Later, Big Ronnie
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I'm a big Castle fan. It has always been a 59 minute show. Sometimes re-runs are 60 minutes starting at 10:00. Multiple units make life simpler.
post #21377 of 25409
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I got them either at Walmart or Lowe's. Walmart used to carry all sizes of clear silicone feet, inclduing my favorite ~3/8" high ones, but they seem to carry only felt in my store lately.

My wife/CFO says she thinks they might have come from Lowe's. I suppose RS should have some too?

Cabinet door bumpers might be good enough in some cases - definitely better than felt anyway. I have a bunch that were 99 cents for 4 8-packs at our local closeout emporium (Marc's). Home Depot also carries but a bit higher price. I use them between stacked usb devices - they discourage sliding as well as creating a little airspace. They're pretty sticky and might even be "stackable" to gain more height...
post #21378 of 25409
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I'm a big Castle fan. It has always been a 59 minute show. Sometimes re-runs are 60 minutes starting at 10:00. Multiple units make life simpler.

Looks like Castle will be preceded by DWTS again this year, so start should be delayed until about 10:02 like last year. That was a lifesaver when I had to switch from Alcatraz on Fox to either Castle on ABC or Hawaii 50 on CBS...
post #21379 of 25409
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Speculation: start here http://cdpups.com/cms_content.asp?cmsid=11

LOL I love your sense of humor biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif, since last Tuesday they tell me something like: your warranty time is over, so please recycle the old one and buy from us a new one, that's why I'm asking here.
post #21380 of 25409
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Looks like Castle will be preceded by DWTS again this year, so start should be delayed until about 10:02 like last year. That was a lifesaver when I had to switch from Alcatraz on Fox to either Castle on ABC or Hawaii 50 on CBS...
I wish I could suggest an HD recorder for Hawaii 5-0 (except for TiVo), but the current crop isn't so good unless you have a can of Raid and your standards are pretty low. Last year the best video & sound was CSI:Miami, but it's gone.
post #21381 of 25409
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I wish I could suggest an HD recorder for Hawaii 5-0 (except for TiVo), but the current crop isn't so good unless you have a can of Raid and your standards are pretty low. Last year the best video & sound was CSI:Miami, but it's gone.
It might be gone from your source, but those of us still using satellite dishes acquired before the proliferation of outdoor pizza pans can still get and record glorious HD CBS using a DVB STB that sells for about $300.
post #21382 of 25409
For info -
The "Quick Start Guide" for forthcoming MDR533, 535 & 537 is now available for download: HERE (1.47mb pdf)

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post #21383 of 25409
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I wish I could suggest an HD recorder for Hawaii 5-0 (except for TiVo), but the current crop isn't so good unless you have a can of Raid and your standards are pretty low. Last year the best video & sound was CSI:Miami, but it's gone.

Sorry, you lost me there - why is recording HI5-0 any different than other shows? I haven't watched it yet - I'm just now watching my NCIS recordings for the first time - am I missing something?

-Chris C.
post #21384 of 25409
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post

Sorry, you lost me there - why is recording HI5-0 any different than other shows? I haven't watched it yet - I'm just now watching my NCIS recordings for the first time - am I missing something?
-Chris C.

You are missing High Definition DD 5.1 recordings. NCIS has a good LFE signal also.
Edited by JoeKustra - 8/24/12 at 1:48pm
post #21385 of 25409
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

You are missing High Definition DD 5.1 recordings. NCIS has a good LFE signal also.

So the quality is lower than other shows? I only have analog cable and I'm not aware of much difference in quality from show to show, except old stuff like the original Twilight Zone. If HI5-0 is only worth watching in HD then there's not much chance I would ever watch it at all...
post #21386 of 25409
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So the quality is lower than other shows? I only have analog cable and I'm not aware of much difference in quality from show to show, except old stuff like the original Twilight Zone. If HI5-0 is only worth watching in HD then there's not much chance I would ever watch it at all...

The quality of 515H recordings is very high. I also have a 2160A. I guess you also have an analog TV and use the TV's speakers. This is not a put-down and someday your analog will go away. I get 25 analog channels myself. I'm going to drop my mother's cable to analog only since she can't tell 1080i from analog and it will save her $40 a month. People are always striving for more, hence Blu-ray and DTS. Many could care less. Some viewers go to the movie theater for the experience, some spend $$$$ for home theaters with many speakers and large screen. My TV is only 32" (but I have a few speakers).

Whatever keeps you happy is most important.
post #21387 of 25409
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

The quality of 515H recordings is very high. I also have a 2160A. I guess you also have an analog TV and use the TV's speakers. This is not a put-down and someday your analog will go away. I get 25 analog channels myself. I'm going to drop my mother's cable to analog only since she can't tell 1080i from analog and it will save her $40 a month. People are always striving for more, hence Blu-ray and DTS. Many could care less. Some viewers go to the movie theater for the experience, some spend $$$$ for home theaters with many speakers and large screen. My TV is only 32" (but I have a few speakers).
Whatever keeps you happy is most important.

Oh, no offense taken - I have a 52" aquos and sound bar, but TWC doesn't give me unscrambled digital so analog is my only recording option. If/when unscrambled analog goes away then so does cable - I'll go full internet + OTA. I'm really only interested in the content - quality is a distant second...
post #21388 of 25409
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post

Oh, no offense taken - I have a 52" aquos and sound bar, but TWC doesn't give me unscrambled digital so analog is my only recording option...


Have the laws changed?

I'd thought cable companies HAVE TO send locals unscrambled.
post #21389 of 25409
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Originally Posted by gastrof View Post

Have the laws changed?
I'd thought cable companies HAVE TO send locals unscrambled.

Mine does, I get local unscrambled hi-def straight through the coax cable, but you must have a compatible tuner.
post #21390 of 25409
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Have the laws changed?
I'd thought cable companies HAVE TO send locals unscrambled.

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Originally Posted by glangford View Post

Mine does, I get local unscrambled hi-def straight through the coax cable, but you must have a compatible tuner.

I'm sorry. I may have caused some confusion mixing HD recording with HD watching. The Mag will pass through HD rf to the TV rf but its recording and tuner are SD. I have no satellite experience either. This topic started with time overlap and PQ but got sidetracked. Sorry.
Edited by JoeKustra - 8/25/12 at 6:05am
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