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post #21721 of 23750
9/27/12 at 9:07am
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Not enough time to investigate? Yet you have time to run a 10 dvr system that has a few units that don't work the way you would like them to work. Just admit that you don't really want to find out that you're wrong about HTPC's.

I have a reasonable amount of time. Reasonable does not include fishing for a link to a suspicious claim you referred to that you could have provided, particularly in light of the timing now in freshly started network and NFL seasons, and unrelated issues like mowing, groceries, sleeping, health and keeping the bills paid. This is about watching TV after all. Equipment is just a vehicle.
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So you want someone to go to your house

Absolutely not. Were there a local HTPC user group or equivalent means of discovery of an offer to show and tell elsewhere I would avail myself of it.
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And it is well documented that Windows runs many things better then the other two os's.

Including malware and its associates. I'm quite familar with how well Norton and McAfee drag Windows down, and that MSE isn't anything like bulletproof. I spent the better parts of last Friday and Saturday failing to eradicate malware from a neighbor's XP puter, installing Linux on it, then tutoring him on the things that work differently in his new OS.

It doesn't matter what Windows does better when the UI of it and most apps that run in it is unduly difficult in my environment. It's made to make M$ money and please a majority. Other than using a keyboard and electricity, I'm not part of any majority I can think of WRT TV and puters.
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9/27/12 at 12:47pm
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I was watching a DVD yesterday and then the Magnavox 2160a recorder turned off all of a sudden. I tried to turn it back on but it wouldn't power up. I tried different outlets and it would still not turn on. I also tried the soft reset method but still no power. Is my unit pretty much dead now?
Thanks.

I don´t think so. First, open the case and check the main fuse.
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post #21723 of 23750
9/27/12 at 1:45pm
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I don´t think so. First, open the case and check the main fuse.
thanks. i checked the main fuse, but it looks intact. any other suggestions? should i still try replacing the main fuse even if it is not burned out?
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post #21724 of 23750
9/27/12 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by profhat View Post

I don´t think so. First, open the case and check the main fuse.
thanks. i checked the main fuse, but it looks intact. any other suggestions? should i still try replacing the main fuse even if it is not burned out?

 

On the Soft Reset, did you:

 

1. Leave the unit unplugged from power for at least 10 minutes?

 

2. Press and hold the power button on front of unit (not remote) while simultaneously replugging the power cord?

 

3.How long did you hold the power button in after replugging?

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post #21725 of 23750
9/27/12 at 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

On the Soft Reset, did you:

1. Leave the unit unplugged from power for at least 10 minutes?

2. Press and hold the power button on front of unit (not remote) while simultaneously replugging the power cord?

3.How long did you hold the power button in after replugging?

Yes I left it unplugged for more than 10 min. I also tried again after leaving it unplugged after a day too. I did press the power button on the unit while replugging the cord. I held the power button for like 20 seconds at least. Should I be holding it for longer?

Thanks for trying to help.
Edited by cheaplikeafox - 9/27/12 at 3:12pm
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post #21726 of 23750
9/27/12 at 3:17pm
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any other suggestions? should i still try replacing the main fuse even if it is not burned out?

Multimeters, such as those in the WalMart auto department, are worthwhile cheap investments, good for testing batteries and OK-looking fuses among other things. OTOH, getting an exact match fuse can be a painfully difficult experience, particularly if the fuse turns out not to be the problem.
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post #21727 of 23750
9/27/12 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by cheaplikeafox View Post

Yes I left it unplugged for more than 10 min. I also tried again after leaving it unplugged after a day too. I did press the power button on the unit while replugging the cord. I held the power button for like 20 seconds at least. Should I be holding it for longer?

Thanks for trying to help.

 

Hmmm. You held the button long enough.

 

Any lightning, power outages or surges there lately?

If you've still got the cover off, there's a Reset button on the top of the circuit board inside you can press, with the unit plugged in to power, and see if it does anything. Be careful, touch the case before pressing the button to discharge any static in your bod.

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post #21728 of 23750
9/27/12 at 3:42pm
I tried the 11:57 Procedure exactly as described on my 513. After trying several channels, I realized the DVR was not coming on at 11:59am.
It occured to me later that there is a timer program every weekday from 11am to noon. Could this keep the unit from coming on to get the time?
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post #21729 of 23750
9/27/12 at 3:45pm
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I tried the 11:57 Procedure exactly as described on my 513. After trying several channels, I realized the DVR was not coming on at 11:59am.
It occured to me later that there is a timer program every weekday from 11am to noon. Could this keep the unit from coming on to get the time?

 

Yes, the Auto Clock only searches from a unit that is OFF. That why you need to set the clock for 11:57... to give you time to turn the unit off before it reaches 11:59... it MUST be off when that happens. Make sure you press OK at end of clock setting and Manual channel setting.

 

You can try the 11:57 procedure by setting the clock to PM. Just rfemember to check timers after the procedure cuz it can make the timer rec menu think it's the next day for awhile. Once the clock resets to current time, go to the timer menu and check... it should reset timers to proper order with a power cycle, but check anyway.

 

Make sure you don't do this procedure around the 11:59am hour!


Edited by wajo - 9/27/12 at 3:53pm
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post #21730 of 23750
9/27/12 at 4:44pm
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You can easily test to see if HDMI has anything to do with this... connect compoaite YWR or Component RGB just to test the same scenario.

If it works OK, we've got an answer (still unheard of here, but an answer nevertheless). If not, more work to do.

Oddly enough it seems to appear that the TV is the culprit. I removed the HDMI from the TV (42LD550) and hooked it up with a YRW to another TV. I was able to view all the previous un-viewable channels. Then through a series of tests, determined that only when the HDMI was hooked the the LG was there problems. I even played around with the HDMI settings on the 2160 A, and that didn't seem to fix anything either. So I guess for now I'll go without an HDMI and look into getting a RGB. Until then it will just be a a YWR. Thanks for the help all.
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post #21731 of 23750
9/27/12 at 4:53pm
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You can easily test to see if HDMI has anything to do with this... connect compoaite YWR or Component RGB just to test the same scenario.

If it works OK, we've got an answer (still unheard of here, but an answer nevertheless). If not, more work to do.

Oddly enough it seems to appear that the TV is the culprit. I removed the HDMI from the TV (42LD550) and hooked it up with a YRW to another TV. I was able to view all the previous un-viewable channels. Then through a series of tests, determined that only when the HDMI was hooked the the LG was there problems. I even played around with the HDMI settings on the 2160 A, and that didn't seem to fix anything either. So I guess for now I'll go without an HDMI and look into getting a RGB. Until then it will just be a a YWR. Thanks for the help all.

 

Before giving up on HDMI, find another HDMI cable, pref. older, and see if any diff.

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post #21732 of 23750
9/27/12 at 5:31pm
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Before giving up on HDMI, find another HDMI cable, pref. older, and see if any diff.

Good thought, though it that HDMI cable did work on my test TV (some 24" Colby from my kid's room) But it definitely will try another.
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post #21733 of 23750
9/27/12 at 6:32pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Hmmm. You held the button long enough.

Any lightning, power outages or surges there lately?


If you've still got the cover off, there's a Reset button on the top of the circuit board inside you can press, with the unit plugged in to power, and see if it does anything. Be careful, touch the case before pressing the button to discharge any static in your bod.
No outages or lightning here lately...so that's why it is kind of odd how it happened. I tried pressing the reset button but that didn't work. I'll try testing the fuse, but if its hard to find a replacement then I might just forget about it.
Thanks
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post #21734 of 23750
9/27/12 at 6:45pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Yes, the Auto Clock only searches from a unit that is OFF. That why you need to set the clock for 11:57... to give you time to turn the unit off before it reaches 11:59... it MUST be off when that happens. Make sure you press OK at end of clock setting and Manual channel setting.

You can try the 11:57 procedure by setting the clock to PM. Just rfemember to check timers after the procedure cuz it can make the timer rec menu think it's the next day for awhile. Once the clock resets to current time, go to the timer menu and check... it should reset timers to proper order with a power cycle, but check anyway.

Make sure you don't do this procedure around the 11:59am hour!

Thanks for the response! Actually the unit WAS OFF...it was around 3PM long after the timer recording finished. Maybe I should try it on the weekend, when there are no timer recodings scheduled!
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post #21735 of 23750
9/27/12 at 7:45pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Before giving up on HDMI, find another HDMI cable, pref. older, and see if any diff.

I only have one other HDMI cable (I only have 2 devices on the TV) and sure enough it seems to work.

Thanks for the tips.
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post #21736 of 23750
9/27/12 at 8:36pm
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Thanks, Rick, for the FW Versions in your 533.

One unexpected "discrepancy" between Sunnycrest's 535 and your 533 is the BE number... his has HD6AD... and yours has HD6A0... ???

I hope both of you will confirm so I can make sure I post the correct numbers.
I revisited the 535 FW screen and agree with the other posters, it is HD6A0 not HD6AD as I previously posted.
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post #21737 of 23750
9/28/12 at 12:38am
I was reading some of the recent posts regarding a look at the tuner problems... it has me pretty excited.

My 3576 hasn't been able to tune the primary QAM channels for almost a year now. A recently purchased HDTV has no issues, proving that the channels are still clear, just that my Philips is useless at tuning it.

It would be nice to have this fully functional again with my flunky cable provider.

I'm also wondering if something can be done about the crushed black levels from HD channels. I suspect it is because HD uses levels from 0 to 255, but are improperly converted to SD's 16-235, if at all.
Edited by DoctorM - 9/28/12 at 12:57am
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post #21738 of 23750
9/28/12 at 5:29am
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Disappearing Channels Caused by HDMI

 

"HDMI is a PITA!" wajo 3/9/12

 

Two reports of missing channels (not tuning) solved by replacing the HDMI cable. Channels were in the recorder but not getting to the TV via HDMI.

 

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Originally Posted by coloradohiker View Post

[Mag 515] I checked the channels for conflicts, and this specific channel (PBS) is the same. I did find another post that stated it might be the cable, so I switched out the HDMI cable for a Y-R-W, and it worked! The really odd part is that when I hooked the HDMI cable back up, it now works :-/ I'm happy it's working, not sure why now, or why it wasn't before!

 

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Originally Posted by kbbl View Post

I have a Maggy H2160MW9 that within the past 2 months has an odd tuner problem. There are ranges of channels (I am not with my unit right now, but it would be like 36.1 through 36.10 (for example) where I can no longer watch them through the tuner. I think in total it's 25 channels of so. (give or take)

But I have found that they record fine ONLY if I am not watching the DVR. If I am watching the TV, it is fine, but not it I'm watching any part of the DVR.

At some point I am thinking about the new 533/535 but am trying to rule out that the cable could be causing this, though I would guess it's the DVR. I'm on Service Electric (Birdsboro) Cablevision. (SE PA)

 

Originally Posted by wajo View Post

You can easily test to see if HDMI has anything to do with this... connect compoaite YWR or Component RGB just to test the same scenario.

If it works OK, we've got an answer (still unheard of here, but an answer nevertheless). If not, more work to do.

 

Originally Posted by kbbl View Post

 

Oddly enough it seems to appear that the TV is the culprit. I removed the HDMI from the TV (42LD550) and hooked it up with a YRW to another TV. I was able to view all the previous un-viewable channels. Then through a series of tests, determined that only when the HDMI was hooked the the LG was there problems. I even played around with the HDMI settings on the 2160 A, and that didn't seem to fix anything either. So I guess for now I'll go without an HDMI and look into getting a RGB. Until then it will just be a a YWR. Thanks for the help all.

 

Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Before giving up on HDMI, find another HDMI cable, pref. older, and see if any diff.

 

Originally Posted by kbbl View Post

 

I only have one other HDMI cable (I only have 2 devices on the TV) and sure enough it seems to work.

Thanks for the tips.

 


Edited by wajo - 10/4/12 at 1:30am
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post #21739 of 23750
9/28/12 at 8:01am
Now really -- is it accurate to trumpet this as a case of "Disappearing Channels Caused by HDMI"?

Seems to be just a bad HDMI cable -- which seems to happen with some regularity.
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post #21740 of 23750
9/28/12 at 9:20am
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Disappearing Channels Caused by Dust!?

 

Another possible cause of channel loss is described here.

 

 

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post #21741 of 23750
9/28/12 at 11:42am
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Disappearing Channels Caused by Dust!?

Another possible cause of channel loss is described here.

Now I've heard everything.
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post #21742 of 23750
9/28/12 at 1:01pm
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Disappearing Channels Caused by Dust!?

My guess is that it had a bad coax connection. He most likely removed the cable to do the cleaning, then when he re-installed the cable it fixed the connection problem.
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post #21743 of 23750
9/29/12 at 5:52am
When I change to channel 2.100 and go to timer record - the channel shows up as 2.00
I only have 2 decimal places
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

When you tune to the channel 2.100, use the number that is displayed. I have four decimal places but only use the last one or two. I'm guessing cable and this is your first Magmavox MDR?
The current channel number is filled in when the record screen is showing. If not, or a blank recording results, you have some PSIP problems. This has been reported in the past.
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post #21744 of 23750
9/29/12 at 5:55am
When I tune to 2.100 and open timer menu channel 2.00 is auto entered. That channel records fine. Luckily I do not have any minor channels greater than 100
because there is only 2 decimal places in the timer menu

Here is my FW versions:
Model: E2S07UD
DTV-S: 1.0.42
FE: R60_003_000
BE: HD6AO12900L1E
TT: T60004RDU@2
DV UNIQUE ID: 00E0A900 002669B(
LD ADJUSTMENT: OK
DISC ADJUSTMENT: OK

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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

1. Tune that channel with CH+/-, then open the timer menu and see what channel is auto-entered there. Do a short timer rec to see what it records.

2. Please use the SKIP 123 Procedure, Step 1 only, as described here, and post the FW Version numbers for your 533.


Make sure you exit the FW screen with the Return button only.  

Sunnycrest posted the FW Versions in his new 535... you can copy his block of text and change numbers as required:

Model: E2S05UD

DTV-S: 1.0.42

FE: R60_003_000

BE: HD6AD12900L1E

TT: T60004RDU@2

DV UNIQUE ID: 00E0A900 00267ACE

LD ADJUSTMENT: OK

DISC ADJUSTMENT: OK
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post #21745 of 23750
9/29/12 at 9:13am
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When I tune to 2.100 and open timer menu channel 2.00 is auto entered. That channel records fine. Luckily I do not have any minor channels greater than 100
because there is only 2 decimal places in the timer menu
What does your TV show for that channel number and its frequency? My only xx.xx00 channel shows as scrambled.
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post #21746 of 23750
9/29/12 at 9:17am
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One Step Forward, Two Steps Back!

 

Funai has finally posted a Manual download for each model. Even tho there's just one manual for all three new 53x Series units, at least now people will find something if they search for any of the three models.

 

They also have the correct Manual number downloadable for the 533 instead of the 513's Manual, HOWEVER, they have TWO links to the English Manual (?) but neither one works. Acrobat reports an "error" and "cannot be repaired" message. So, NOW, there is NO downloadable Manual for someone searching for 533 documents (and they won't know one of the other manuals is the same).

 

The French version listed for the 533 Manual DOES download OK, EXCEPT it's for a BD/VHS combo!

 

Struckthrough items corrected as of 10/1/12 or earlier.

 

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Edited by wajo - 10/2/12 at 12:15pm
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post #21747 of 23750
9/29/12 at 1:39pm
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One Step Forward, Two Steps Back!
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A very sad situation, especially since Funai was made aware of those "problems" many months ago (both publicly and privately).

One gets the impression they don't really care.

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9/29/12 at 1:56pm
it is channel 2 - CBS
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What does your TV show for that channel number and its frequency? My only xx.xx00 channel shows as scrambled.
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post #21749 of 23750
9/29/12 at 4:23pm
Not sure where to put this, but it is important.
I found a solution for DVD+RW recording error (i.e. giving E13 or E19 error codes). DVD+R worked, though. I tried formatting using imgburn, every trick I could find on this website but nothing worked...until now.

The problem seems to be fixed. So far, all the DVD+RW that failed before are working.
We had well over 300 titles and the HDD was within an hour of being full. DVD+R worked so I moved 18 titles at a time (that's the limit) and also purged/watched many old titles; some dating back to 2009. After doing this (down to 270 titles and over 30 hours availability) all of a sudden the DVD+RWs started working. When they are put in the drive, they format instead of load. It seems the 2160A recognizes the DVD+RW needs formatting and does it. Manual format did not work. Some limit must have been exceeded (titles? availability?) and now it ok. smile.gifsmile.gif

Doug
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post #21750 of 23750
9/29/12 at 4:54pm
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Some limit must have been exceeded (titles? availability?) and now it ok.

Your problem must be different from my 515's. Mine gives error codes and failures with Sony DVD+RW, the only DVD+RW discs I ever bought, trying to write discs ever written in any other machine, Funai or otherwise, and started doing so long before becoming even half full, and with far fewer than 300 titles. Title count was probably under 100 when it started.
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