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post #22351 of 25453
I haven't even bought it yet,thats why I am asking.My dad is looking for a way to record a show on his cable vision, while watching a different cable channel.He use to do this with his dvd/combo with tuner but it has passed away and he wants me to find him a device that will let him do this.My dad is in his 80's and I'm just a dumb blonde,so I want to make sure I get the right device.
post #22352 of 25453
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Originally Posted by dsheldon3 View Post

I haven't even bought it yet,thats why I am asking.My dad is looking for a way to record a show on his cable vision, while watching a different cable channel.He use to do this with his dvd/combo with tuner but it has passed away and he wants me to find him a device that will let him do this.My dad is in his 80's and I'm just a dumb blonde,so I want to make sure I get the right device.

Make/model number of DVD/combo with tuner?

Also, Walmart has a very liberal return policy. Easier than Amazon.
post #22353 of 25453
All I wanted to know was if its anyway possible to record a cable channel with the MDR533H/F7 and watch a different cable channel at the same time.
Has anyone been able to do it?
post #22354 of 25453
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Originally Posted by dsheldon3 View Post

All I wanted to know was if its anyway possible to record a cable channel with the MDR533H/F7 and watch a different cable channel at the same time.
Has anyone been able to do it?

I do it all the time. I don't use a cable box. I have 22 analog and 120 clear QAM channels. Maybe two of those are clear on your cable too. Maybe your dad was watching analog. Maybe the combo box had a digital tuner, maybe not. Too many guesses to say yes or no.

Why not buy another DVD/combo?
post #22355 of 25453
They do not make vcr/dvd combos with a tuner anymore.You can't find them anywhere.He said with his old vcr/dvd combo with tuner he was able to watch cable tv and record a different cable channel at the same time.He paid mega bucks for it and it only lasted a year.
post #22356 of 25453
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I do it all the time. I don't use a cable box. I have 22 analog and 120 clear QAM channels. Maybe two of those are clear on your cable too. Maybe your dad was watching analog. Maybe the combo box had a digital tuner, maybe not. Too many guesses to say yes or no.
Why not buy another DVD/combo?


Analog is Over the Air, right? Are you able to watch both analog and QAM channels while recording a QAM channel?
post #22357 of 25453
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Originally Posted by dsheldon3 View Post

Analog is Over the Air, right? Are you able to watch both analog and QAM channels while recording a QAM channel?
OTA is digital. Analog is 50 years old and still sent out by some cable feeds.

I can't watch two channels at the same time since my two TVs are in different rooms. Not a fair question since I have six or seven DVRs and two Magnavox units.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=16617608&findingMethod=rr
Edited by JoeKustra - 12/7/12 at 8:31am
post #22358 of 25453
She's right about them not making VCRs or combo units with tuners anymore. I was in the same situation last week with my 84-year-old mom whose VCR died. In the end, I had to resurrect one of my old VCRs so she could continue simultaneously watching and recording two channels on her analog cable.

That, plus one of these easy to read and operate jumbo remotes for her declining eyesight.


Edited by plplplpl - 12/7/12 at 8:30am
post #22359 of 25453
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

Wrong. OTA is digital. Analog is 50 years old and still sent out by some cable feeds.
I can't watch two channels at the same time since my two TVs are in different rooms.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-SD-V296-DVD-VCR-Combo-Player/16617607

The link you provided is for a dvd/vcr combo that does not have a tuner.How would he be able to record a cable vision show and watch a different cablevision show at the same time without a tuner on the dvd/vcr combo?
post #22360 of 25453
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Originally Posted by plplplpl View Post

She's right about them not making VCRs or combo units with tuners anymore. I was in the same situation last week with my 84-year-old mom whose VCR died. In the end, I had to resurrect one of my old VCRs so she could continue simultaneously watching and recording two channels on her analog cable.
That, plus one of these easy to read and operate jumbo remotes for her declining eyesight.


Does anyone make a dvd recorder with a tuner that lets you record a cable tv show while watching a different cable tv show?
post #22361 of 25453
Not at any of the brick & mortar or online stores my brother and I scoured, anymore. The easiest and least expensive solution would be to find a used VCR in decent working condition.

A splitter from the wall's analog cable to the Magnavox and to the TV might work, with the line out of the Magnavox going to the line in of the TV. Then you could switch the TV's input from cable RF to the Magnavox's line in, depending on which you wanted to watch. I haven't tried this, but others who have could confirm if it works or not.
Edited by plplplpl - 12/7/12 at 8:43am
post #22362 of 25453
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by dsheldon3 View Post

Does anyone make a dvd recorder with a tuner that lets you record a cable tv show while watching a different cable tv show?

Yes, the Mag will do what he wants.

 

His TV will have to have a "line connection" like YWR RCA or S-Video in addition to the normal RF/ANT coax connector.

 

The connection scheme is most likely a little different than his combo and we can walk you thru it if you decide to buy the Mag... just be assured that there IS more than one way to connect and enjoy watching one channel with the TV's or a cable box's tuner while recording a diff. channel with the Mag.

post #22363 of 25453
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Originally Posted by dsheldon3 View Post

The link you provided is for a dvd/vcr combo that does not have a tuner.How would he be able to record a cable vision show and watch a different cablevision show at the same time without a tuner on the dvd/vcr combo?
Try new link. Better yet, follow wajo's advice.
post #22364 of 25453
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Yes, the Mag will do what he wants.

His TV will have to have a "line connection" like YWR RCA or S-Video in addition to the normal RF/ANT coax connector.

The connection scheme is most likely a little different than his combo and we can walk you thru it if you decide to buy the Mag... just be assured that there IS more than one way to connect and enjoy watching one channel with the TV's or a cable box's tuner while recording a diff. channel with the Mag.

Would it be possible for you to describe the setup so I can make sure he has all the neccessary equipment? Your help is very much appreciated,thankyou soo much.
post #22365 of 25453
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Originally Posted by plplplpl View Post

She's right about them not making VCRs or combo units with tuners anymore. I was in the same situation last week with my 84-year-old mom whose VCR died. In the end, I had to resurrect one of my old VCRs so she could continue simultaneously watching and recording two channels on her analog cable.

That remote is awesome! My mother (85) doesn't have a vision problem but she's almost deaf. I told her I would get her wireless headphones, but that was shot down since it would mess up her hair.
post #22366 of 25453
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Yes, the Mag will do what he wants.

His TV will have to have a "line connection" like YWR RCA or S-Video in addition to the normal RF/ANT coax connector.

The connection scheme is most likely a little different than his combo and we can walk you thru it if you decide to buy the Mag... just be assured that there IS more than one way to connect and enjoy watching one channel with the TV's or a cable box's tuner while recording a diff. channel with the Mag.

Would it be possible for you to describe the setup so I can make sure he has all the neccessary equipment? Your help is very much appreciated,thankyou soo much.

 

Here is a help file on Connections that has sketches for each of the four ways people receive their TV.

 

Look for your father's way (cable with or without a box) and you'll see a sketch PLUS a step-by-step procedure below the sketch and LOTS of additional text on the page with details as needed.

post #22367 of 25453
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

Try new link. Better yet, follow wajo's advice.

I looked at the new link.This is the model I just bought my dad from Amazon.It has no tuner thus making it impossible to watch a show while recording a different show.If you happen to know of a way to do it please tell me as we were going to return this model today if we couldn't find a way to do it.
post #22368 of 25453
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Originally Posted by dsheldon3 View Post

I looked at the new link.This is the model I just bought my dad from Amazon.It has no tuner thus making it impossible to watch a show while recording a different show.If you happen to know of a way to do it please tell me as we were going to return this model today if we couldn't find a way to do it.
Return it. Take wajo's help. He's much better than I am.
post #22369 of 25453
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Here is a help file on Connections that has sketches for each of the four ways people receive their TV.

Look for your father's way (cable with or without a box) and you'll see a sketch PLUS a step-by-step procedure below the sketch and LOTS of additional text on the page with details as needed.

Thankyou, so is the way this MDR533H/F7 works is ,it records a show onto a hard drive where you can later watch it from the hard drive? Can this device play DVD+R or DVD-R's?
post #22370 of 25453
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Originally Posted by dsheldon3 View Post

Thankyou, so is the way this MDR533H/F7 works is ,it records a show onto a hard drive where you can later watch it from the hard drive? Can this device play DVD+R or DVD-R's?

Yes and yes.
post #22371 of 25453
Situation seems to be getting a bit muddy ... the OP's original request ...

All I wanted to know was if its anyway possible to record a cable channel with the MDR533H/F7 and watch a different cable channel at the same time.

And according to page 19 (Connecting to a cable/Satellite Box) of the Magnavox 533H - 537H manual, in bold no less:

You cannot record one channel while watching another channel.

Seems black and white to me anyway. Also, I see no mention of the Maggie being a dual tuner device, so not sure what good a splitter would do ya. In any case, that would only work on an analog signal?

Then again ... here in tweaker's paradise, anything is possible if you click your heels together. biggrin.gif

PICTURES PLEEZE!

post #22372 of 25453
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Originally Posted by NOSTRADIMWIT View Post

Situation seems to be getting a bit muddy ... the OP's original request ...
All I wanted to know was if its anyway possible to record a cable channel with the MDR533H/F7 and watch a different cable channel at the same time.
And according to page 19 (Connecting to a cable/Satellite Box) of the Magnavox 533H - 537H manual, in bold no less:
You cannot record one channel while watching another channel.
Seems black and white to me anyway. Also, I see no mention of the Maggie being a dual tuner device, so not sure what good a splitter would do ya. In any case, that would only work on an analog signal?
Then again ... here in tweaker's paradise, anything is possible if you click your heels together. biggrin.gif
PICTURES PLEEZE!

Now you see why I needed more information. Obviously the 533H (et al) can not become a dual tuner unit. But you can watch (using the TV's tuner), using a splitter or daisy chained rf, one cable channel while the 533H records a different cable channel. That implies a clear QAM or analog channel, a TV that can watch raw cable, and that the TV has aux inputs. It would be nice if the TV remote had an "input" or "source" button.
post #22373 of 25453
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Originally Posted by NOSTRADIMWIT View Post

Situation seems to be getting a bit muddy ... the OP's original request ...
All I wanted to know was if its anyway possible to record a cable channel with the MDR533H/F7 and watch a different cable channel at the same time.
And according to page 19 (Connecting to a cable/Satellite Box) of the Magnavox 533H - 537H manual, in bold no less:
You cannot record one channel while watching another channel.
Seems black and white to me anyway. Also, I see no mention of the Maggie being a dual tuner device, so not sure what good a splitter would do ya. In any case, that would only work on an analog signal?
Then again ... here in tweaker's paradise, anything is possible if you click your heels together. biggrin.gif
PICTURES PLEEZE!

confused.gif Well, I hope Wajo was right because I already ordered the MDR533H/F7 from Walmart.

I hope Wajo will be around when my dad hooks this up.
post #22374 of 25453
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Originally Posted by NOSTRADIMWIT View Post

Situation seems to be getting a bit muddy ... the OP's original request ...
All I wanted to know was if its anyway possible to record a cable channel with the MDR533H/F7 and watch a different cable channel at the same time.
And according to page 19 (Connecting to a cable/Satellite Box) of the Magnavox 533H - 537H manual, in bold no less:
You cannot record one channel while watching another channel.
Seems black and white to me anyway. Also, I see no mention of the Maggie being a dual tuner device, so not sure what good a splitter would do ya. In any case, that would only work on an analog signal?
Then again ... here in tweaker's paradise, anything is possible if you click your heels together. biggrin.gif
PICTURES PLEEZE!

True, as far as it goes - unless of course the OP has 2 cable boxes.

But of course you don't have to use use the cable box to record. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure providers are required to at least supply unscrambled local channels. Mine (TWC) still provides 50 or 60 unscrambled analog channels.

It seems to me that if whatever recording device the OP had before allowed concurrent recording, there is nothing about the Mag that would restrict that ability. In fact the coax pass-through would likely allow a simpler setup than before.

And you can always connect the cable box to a Mag line input too for when you want to manually set up to record a scrambled channel (the recording could be timed, but the cable box would have to be turned on and set to the correct channel manually). Even then the coax pass-through would allow the TV to tune a different unscrambled channel.

The only limitation would be that you can't watch one scrambled channel while recording another scrambled channel without a second cable box.

[edit] It occurs to me that maybe we're over-analyzing this. From what I've heard, if this was my relative, I might be inclined to just recommend the cable provider's DVR. I wouldn't pay the extra ~$10/mo myself, but if you're not interested in the editing and dubbing capabilities of the Mag maybe it's overkill in this situation...
Edited by cc_in_oh - 12/7/12 at 2:58pm
post #22375 of 25453
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Originally Posted by cc_in_oh View Post

True, as far as it goes - unless of course the OP has 2 cable boxes.
But of course you don't have to use use the cable box to record. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure providers are required to at least supply unscrambled local channels. Mine (TWC) still provides 50 or 60 unscrambled analog channels.
It seems to me that if whatever recording device the OP had before allowed concurrent recording, there is nothing about the Mag that would restrict that ability. In fact the coax pass-through would likely allow a simpler setup than before.
And you can always connect the cable box to a Mag line input too for when you want to manually set up to record a scrambled channel (the recording could be timed, but the cable box would have to be turned on and set to the correct channel manually). Even then the coax pass-through would allow the TV to tune a different unscrambled channel.
The only limitation would be that you can't watch one scrambled channel while recording another scrambled channel without a second cable box.
[edit] It occurs to me that maybe we're over-analyzing this. From what I've heard, if this was my relative, I might be inclined to just recommend the cable provider's DVR. I wouldn't pay the extra ~$10/mo myself, but if you're not interested in the editing and dubbing capabilities of the Mag maybe it's overkill in this situation...

He would just be using it to record shows while watching other shows.He has no interest in recording to dvd's,editing,or dubbing.
post #22376 of 25453
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Originally Posted by dsheldon3 View Post

He would just be using it to record shows while watching other shows.He has no interest in recording to dvd's,editing,or dubbing.

Me too. You can read about it:
http://www.m4c.magnavox.com/cgi-bin/cpindex.pl?ctn=MDR533H/F7&hlt=Link_UserManuals&mid=Link_UserManuals&scy=US&slg=AEN
post #22377 of 25453
I have a friend who has cable and is interested in buying a Magnavox Mdr53* series machine. I myself own a machine and have an antenna. I just got my machine and am a newbee. My friend asked me these questions which I am not sure how to answer:

1) How is the easiest way to skip commercials while watching and playing back off of the HDD so you find the spot where the program returns. Can you skip directly to that spot?
2) Can you start watching the show from any point while it is still recording.
3) If you have cable and want to set up timed record on the MDR537 and record several timed events while you are gone for the day and these programs are are on different channels, how does this work so the cable box channel is also changed correctly?

Thanks for any help you can provide.
post #22378 of 25453

My dad doesn't use a cable box to get his cable.From what I undertstand from the manual, it's only if you are using a cable box is when you are not able to watch while recording.So as long as he isn't using a cable box then I'm guessing he should be able to watch tv while recording a different channel?
post #22379 of 25453
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Originally Posted by mwg1 View Post

I have a friend who has cable and is interested in buying a Magnavox Mdr53* series machine. I myself own a machine and have an antenna. I just got my machine and am a newbee. My friend asked me these questions which I am not sure how to answer:
1) How is the easiest way to skip commercials while watching and playing back off of the HDD so you find the spot where the program returns. Can you skip directly to that spot?
2) Can you start watching the show from any point while it is still recording.
3) If you have cable and want to set up timed record on the MDR537 and record several timed events while you are gone for the day and these programs are are on different channels, how does this work so the cable box channel is also changed correctly?
Thanks for any help you can provide.

The Magnavox can not change channels on a cable STB. The skip button will advance and backup. You will have to watch the screen.

Never tried #2.
post #22380 of 25453
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Originally Posted by dsheldon3 View Post

My dad doesn't use a cable box to get his cable.From what I undertstand from the manual, it's only if you are using a cable box is when you are not able to watch while recording.So as long as he isn't using a cable box then I'm guessing he should be able to watch tv while recording a different channel?

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