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post #22741 of 25403
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Originally Posted by douggg View Post

I just got a 535 and it didnt do the initial setup when 1st turned on and I have had no problem with the tray, i just went through the setup menu to set it up.
Plus my manual only says the device may not function properly if you dont do the intial setup, nothing about the tray. I Havent had any problems yet with the 535 at all, his may be defective
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post #22742 of 25403
Lucky you - haha. I've been gone all day, so since I had the unit unplugged this whole time, I tried the soft reset with no luck. I have gone through every setting in the general settings and entered through them all, with no luck. I am now going to do a hard reset in a last ditch effort to get this to work. And I have considered the possibility that maybe its just broken and doesn't have anything to do with the set up. I would like to add though, in the Quick Start Guide, under step 2, in Big Bold letters is says "Caution, The disc tray does not open without completing the Initial Setup" so that is why I have felt like that must be the problem (even though it might not be).
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Originally Posted by douggg View Post

I just got a 535 and it didnt do the initial setup when 1st turned on and I have had no problem with the tray, i/quote]
post #22743 of 25403
The good news is the hard reset did get the Initial Setup menu to appear. The bad news is that after going through the set up, the dvd tray still won't open mad.gif Bummer.
post #22744 of 25403
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

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Sorry

I will knock on wood my luck continues LOL
post #22745 of 25403
Free preview on Showtime. Time for some of us to give our machines a workout. smile.gif
post #22746 of 25403
Just wanted to let everyone know that the Taiyo Yudens and the Verbatim AZO DVD-R's are working well.

Also I recorded a show off the tuner (Elementary) whilst watching a DVD at the same time with the 537. Sweet!
post #22747 of 25403
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Originally Posted by EscapeVelocity View Post

Just wanted to let everyone know that the Taiyo Yudens and the Verbatim AZO DVD-R's are working well.

Also I recorded a show off the tuner (Elementary) whilst watching a DVD at the same time with the 537. Sweet!

I have a new 537 and two older 515's all hooked up to my Kosmic SuperQuad antenna. I get all the local UHF stations and the one VHF station (real channel 9) in my area. Thanks EV!
Edited by SonicLogic - 1/11/13 at 9:00pm
post #22748 of 25403
Thread Starter 

 

 
One Disastrous Result from Lack of or "Leaking" KLUGE (Barrier)
 
One person accidentally deleted all titles from an almost-full 515 he didn't cover during a dubbing on a different unit.
 
He loaded a DVD in the other unit, opened the General Setting menu, arrowed UP to go to the Dubbing menu at the bottom (most direct route I use all the time), pressed OK on the 1st option (HDD>DVD), and proceeded to dub.
 
Unknowingly, on the other unit which did not have a DVD loaded so "Dubbing" was inactive, those key actions selected the HDMI Menu, then OK on the 1st option there, DELETE ALL TITLES!
 
Lesson learned?
 
Here's the short thread he started on this.
 

 

 
post #22749 of 25403
I finally bought one of these, the MDR537H.

What immediately impressed me is the solid build of the unit, especially the front panel. When I saw an earlier version of this DVR last year, it seems a bit cheap to me. I'm glad they improved on it.

Another immediate impression is the AMAZING CLARITY of broadcast signals. I had used a few other digital-analog converters, one made by RCA, and the broadcast quality was certainly better than what I had before... but now it looks inferior compared to what the MDR537H delivers. I'd swear I was watching cable.

Another thing I noticed is the sound level. There is definite amplification from this unit, about 50% more than what my other tuners delivered.

I had seen it mentioned that you must put the DVR's video format to 16:9 if you want it to record as such. When I tried this, it warped the display such that the video was "squashed". There are two broadcast signals for each major network, one being normal and the other widescreen. But I find that on the normal channel I get a widescreen view naturally. And when I recorded, it preserved the display. It looks terrific, too. What is recorded appears exactly as it was broadcast.

I haven't fully explored the dubbing and editing features. I'm wondering if someone could answer some questions I have, to save me from having to read through everything right now (I do plan to once I have more time).
  • Is there a way to "trim" recorded video to remove commercials? I have been able to take care of them when recording manually, but with auto-recording they're still present. I do appreciate the "skip" feature which seems to help a lot, but still... would be nice to get rid of them altogether.
  • Is the recorded video actually 480i? It just seems to extraordinarily clear and sharp, as if it were 720p.
  • If you make a copy of a DVD, does the DVR record it at 480i no matter what the quality level you select?
post #22750 of 25403
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Originally Posted by garence View Post

[*] Is there a way to "trim" recorded video to remove commercials?

On the HD it's called scene delete in the edit menu. On DVD it depends on the DVD type what's possible via edit menu.

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[*] Is the recorded video actually 480i? It just seems to extraordinarily clear and sharp, as if it were 720p.

Maximum is 480 for SP & HQ. Lower quality modes produce lower resolution.

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[*] If you make a copy of a DVD, does the DVR record it at 480i no matter what the quality level you select?

High speed dubbing amounts to little other than copying a file, so there is no conversion, and no relevance to the resolution of the title being copied. Other copying is recording. At SP or HQ it's at 480, lower for lower quality modes.
post #22751 of 25403
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Originally Posted by garence View Post

  • Is the recorded video actually 480i? It just seems to extraordinarily clear and sharp, as if it were 720p.

Yep 480i, but the image in our machines have a native frame size of 720x480 pixels...
post #22752 of 25403
Thread Starter 

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Walmart has revised its pricing again. Now:

 

$218

$228

$258

 

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post #22753 of 25403
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Copying FILES from One HDD to Another

 

I just ran across the best method I've seen to date on copying files from a Philips 3455 HDD>HDD, described by Pikey as:

 

"The only way I had of recovering the videos was to download a "live" version of Ubuntu. I then booted up into that OS, and was able to mount the old hard disk, and copy the files from it. I had to remove the new hard disk from the recorder and mount that as well, and copy the files over but, once done, my old videos were on the new replacement hard disk."

 

Since his DVDR was a Philips 3455, good chance it might also work on our units?

 

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Edited by wajo - 1/12/13 at 8:06am
post #22754 of 25403
I have a 515 and have a question. I had a company transfer some High8 and VHS videos to DVD. I want to record the DVDs to the HD of the 515 so I can edit and rearrange the images. The manual says you can dub from the HD to DVD and vice versa but for dubbing from DVD to HD the info is vague. The dubbing selection is grayed out also. Anyone have suggestions?
post #22755 of 25403
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

I have a 515 and have a question. I had a company transfer some High8 and VHS videos to DVD. I want to record the DVDs to the HD of the 515 so I can edit and rearrange the images. The manual says you can dub from the HD to DVD and vice versa but for dubbing from DVD to HD the info is vague. The dubbing selection is grayed out also. Anyone have suggestions?

 

Copying FINALIZED DVDs to HDD is different than unfinalized, as described here.

post #22756 of 25403
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Copying FILES from One HDD to Another

I just ran across the best method I've seen to date on copying files from a Philips 3455 HDD>HDD, described by Pikey

Since his DVDR was a Philips 3455, good chance it might also work on our units?

Pikey described poorly what's necessary, but it would work the same for any of our machines.

1-Any live Linux can do it.

2-Anyone already running or multibooting Linux can do it.

3-Anyone who knows how to clone a HD can do it, with or without Linux.

4-Our HDs don't have a filesystem recognizable by any PC operating system, so the HD cannot be "mounted".

5-What Pikey likely used was the dd command, something like
Code:
dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc
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What I would have used to clone is the same program I use for all low level HD activity for the past decade or so, DFSee, a non-free tool that runs identically under DOS, OS/2, Windows, Linux and Mac.
post #22757 of 25403
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

I have a 515 and have a question. I had a company transfer some High8 and VHS videos to DVD. I want to record the DVDs to the HD of the 515 so I can edit and rearrange the images. The manual says you can dub from the HD to DVD and vice versa but for dubbing from DVD to HD the info is vague. The dubbing selection is grayed out also. Anyone have suggestions?

I think that you need to start playing the DVD before it will allow dub options to HDD to occur.
post #22758 of 25403
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Copying FINALIZED DVDs to HDD is different than unfinalized, as described here.

Thanks. For some reason the dubbing button on the remote or unit only gives the red slashed cirle warning. Also in the menu dubbing is not selectable no matter if following the finalized or unfinalized instructions. I have 4 different disc that I want to record to the HD. One of them only has a short sequence on it. I was able to copy that to the HD but another disc with multiple titles won't copy.
post #22759 of 25403
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Copying FINALIZED DVDs to HDD is different than unfinalized, as described here.

Thanks. For some reason the dubbing button on the remote or unit only gives the red slashed cirle warning. Also in the menu dubbing is not selectable no matter if following the finalized or unfinalized instructions. I have 4 different disc that I want to record to the HD. One of them only has a short sequence on it. I was able to copy that to the HD but another disc with multiple titles won't copy.

 

It won't copy a complete disc's content. You have to set desired rec mode, then start one title playing, then press the Dubbing button, and it "should" start copying that to the HDD. It doesn't matter when in the playback you press the button, it starts from the beginning of that title. You have to play each title separately, as described in the instructions.

 

This is only for FINALIZED discs... unfinalized discs can be copied with the "normal" Dubbing > DVD>HDD menu.


Edited by wajo - 1/12/13 at 10:47am
post #22760 of 25403
Ok, I'll give it another go and thanks again.
post #22761 of 25403
1-13-2013

Walmart

Magnavox MDR537H/F7
258.00 35% off

Magnavox MDR535H/F7
228.00 35% off

MDR533H/F7
218.00 27% off No Change in past week(s)

www.walmart.com


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post #22762 of 25403
I just bought a 535 and have it connected to a Kuro monitor so I rely on the tuner for all my watching of tv. If I am watching an HD channel is it HD or 480i and then upsampled?
post #22763 of 25403
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Richard Ulery View Post

I just bought a 535 and have it connected to a Kuro monitor so I rely on the tuner for all my watching of tv. If I am watching an HD channel is it HD or 480i and then upsampled?

 

Anyone watching from the coax passthrough sees HD or whatever they're receiving.

 

If watching thru the Mag's tuner, like you, it's 480i, upscaled to whatever HDMI format you set with the remote button. Default setting for "HDMI Format" in the HDMI menu is RGB (analog Progressive), but I've found YCbCr (digital Progressive) is better for those HDTV's that are compatible. If not, it auto-reverts to RGB. Commercial DVD movies are typically produced in YCbCr.


Edited by wajo - 1/13/13 at 10:42am
post #22764 of 25403
Right from the book ... page 42 ...

"All high definition pictures will be down converted to the standard definition pictures when they are recorded on this unit."

Just so I'm clear on this part ... SPP is the lowest quality setting that saves the full 720x480 "HD" frame? Seems to me I was getting half frame (352x480) at LP and lower when experimenting with playback quality.
post #22765 of 25403
Thanks for the response. I was afraid that would be the answer. Can you pass 1080i/p through component out? Thanks again.
post #22766 of 25403
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Richard Ulery View Post

Thanks for the response. I was afraid that would be the answer. Can you pass 1080i/p through component out? Thanks again.

 

No, only the coax is a passthru, and anything going thru the tuner or line inputs get downconverted to SD 480i as reqd by the DVD Standard. And only HDMI upconverts.

post #22767 of 25403
I have been using my 515 in an unusual manner, so Wajo suggested I post this, an explanation of what I am doing in case it of interest to others.


Using the Magnavox 515 as a Digital Tuner between DirecTV and Non-Digital Panasonic DVD Recorder for Superior Editing Purposes

I have been been getting all my TV from DirecTV (with local channels) for many years. There were programs on local subchannels that DirecTV just did not carry. I found a way to record these shows and other important stuff, many of which appear in blocks as "marathons", using a 515 as a digital tuner. The signal path goes from the antenna to my 515, then to my Panasonic recorder(s) so I can use their superior editing capabilities. None of the Panasonic DVD recorders I own have a digital tuner to record the shows directly.


Old Process

I had been recording everything I wanted to watch on my DirecTV DVR. I would copy the programs I wanted to "save" from the DVR to one of my analog Panasonic DVD recorders.

However, as I said, there were programs I wanted to record that were on subchannels that DirecTV does not carry (but were were available OTA), so I could not program my DVR to record them. I set up an antenna, but it turnd out that some of these shows were on at very inconvenient times to watch live, and many of them are shown in blocks of two, three, even four hours. That is very inconvenient to sit through in one live marathon viewing session, and again, I couldn't record them with my analog Panasonic DVD recorders. frown.gif


New Process

So, I purchased a Magnavox 515, connected the antenna, did a channel scan, and HEY! got all of the "local" digital channels I get with DirecTV, PLUS all the subchannels that DirecTV does not carry. However, the Magnavox just doesn't have the editing capabilities I am used to with the Panasonic. I do LOTS of complex editing and "fiddling around" with titles I want to save on optical media. So, the problem was, how to get the content from the Magnavox to the Panasonic.


The solution was absurdly simple.

I tried -RW disks, but was unhappy with the results, so after consulting with Wajo in a few PMs, I started to record everything I wanted to save to HDD in HQ mode on the Mag 515. This resulted in as high a picture quality as possible. I then connected an S-Video+audio cable from the back output of my 515 to a line input on the Panasonic, made sure Progressive Scan was OFF (or no output from composite or S-Video on the 515), then just played back the recorded program on the Magnavox while simultaneously recording it on the Panasonic. Simple! Any degradation in the picture quality turned out to be so small, it was all but unnoticeable

Once in the Panasonic, I can separates the single title into individual episodes and, using the Playlist feature, I can further edit and title them appropriately. When I get a disk full of episodes, I save them to a DVD.


Moral of This Story

In essence, I'm using my Mag 515 as a DVR rather then a DVD recorder. It does this very well, and I'm is very pleased with the ability to record off any channel I can get from my antenna. The 515 has proven to be completely reliable (never missed a recording so far) and the picture quality is excellent.--as good as my recordings made from my DirecTV DVR. Of course, this is all SP.

One last thing, as I am learning how to edit recordings on the 515, I am starting to use it as it was intended, as a DVD recorder, and I expect to be using it that way more and more. Since I first set this up, the number of channels I want to watch but can only record on the 515, not my Panasonics, has increased (new subchannels appear ) and I'm using it more. It has turned out to be a very cost-effective purchase and an important part of my video suite. Of course, my "video suite" consists of just a big stack of stuff with a rats-nest of wiring behind it. biggrin.gif
Edited by Church AV Guy - 1/15/13 at 1:31pm
post #22768 of 25403
Why? Why not use the Magnavox as your digital converter box and record directly to the Panasonic? Wouldn't that save one record-playback operation.
post #22769 of 25403
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Originally Posted by RichardT View Post

Why? Why not use the Magnavox as your digital converter box and record directly to the Panasonic? Wouldn't that save one record-playback operation.

That's what I would do, use the Maggy as the tuner, and record on the Panny. No conversion loss at all, one real-time step eliminated.
post #22770 of 25403
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Originally Posted by NOSTRADIMWIT View Post

Just so I'm clear on this part ... SPP is the lowest quality setting that saves the full 720x480 "HD" frame? Seems to me I was getting half frame (352x480) at LP and lower when experimenting with playback quality.
AFAIK on a Magnavox only HQ and SP are full D1 resolution, even dropping to SPP will be 1/2 D1 but note many people including my father are fine with SPP but notice the big drop going to LP. If I were recording on a Magnavox I'd probably stick to SP but thats just me smile.gif

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Originally Posted by kjbawc View Post

That's what I would do, use the Maggy as the tuner, and record on the Panny. No conversion loss at all, one real-time step eliminated.
My guess is Luke may be recording from multiple channels and there would be no way to have the Maggy switch channels unless actually recording. Now I guess he could use a CECB that had channel change ability(like the Zinewell or Pal) or he could also do as I did before getting my Tivo, use the IR blaster with a HDD Panasonic and compatible CECB like a EH-55 but I'm guessing he feels his RW method might be easier. Setting up and programming such a Panasonic without TVGOS can be kind of a pain, it's one of the reasons I switched to exclusively using my Tivo, well that and it's full HD for playback biggrin.gif
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