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post #22921 of 23752
1/28/13 at 10:49am
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.........I wonder how many will drop cable............
In 2011, for the first time, the number of cable and satellite subscribers declined slightly, however, during 2012, that slight loss turned to a flood with over 2.65 million "Cutting-Cable". That's an annual decline of approximately 2.8%, with many former subscribers turning to the internet for their TV & movie viewing.

In an attempt to counter this loss, providers such as Comcast, TWC, AT&T and Verizon have adjusted their "pricing policies". For example, if you have a basic Internet/TV package costing $50.00 a month, and want to delete the basic TV but keep internet service, you will only save $5.00. The charge for internet service alone increases to $45.00/month.

Sadly, in many areas, users don't have a choice of providers. mad.gif
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post #22922 of 23752
1/28/13 at 10:58am
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In 2011, for the first time, the number of cable and satellite subscribers declined slightly, however, during 2012, that slight loss turned to a flood with over 2.65 million "Cutting-Cable". That's an annual decline of approximately 2.8%, with many former subscribers turning to the internet for their TV & movie viewing.

In an attempt to counter this loss, providers such as Comcast, TWC, AT&T and Verizon have adjusted their "pricing policies". For example, if you have a basic Internet/TV package costing $50.00 a month, and want to delete the basic TV but keep internet service, you will only save $5.00. The charge for internet service alone increases to $45.00/month.

Sadly, in many areas, users don't have a choice of providers. mad.gif
Very true. With no choice I can go dish or rent/buy a DVD. When I decided to use my TiVo and drop the STB it was a net loss since the STB was part of a package so I was now being charged al la carte. They didn't tell me that until I gave back the STB. All things considered my cable company is great, but money is money. My cable internet is pretty bad also, so going that route isn't my first choice. It's a cruel world.
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1/28/13 at 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

You're right. I thought it was earlier. And with the speed that 4k TVs are being introduced, anything is possible. We live in interesting times.

I went up to google 2 weeks or so and put 2160p on it.
Some of the info on 2160 is from 2008 year. My mom still likes sunday papers.Pulled out Brandsmart paper ad:

Page 8

LG
3D 84" Class 2160p Cinema Ultra HD 240hz LED Smart HDTV with wifi.
3840x2160 lines of resolution.

Oh just a little bit less than
17k in price.

Mark
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www.brandsmartusa.com
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post #22924 of 23752
1/28/13 at 2:17pm
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......LG 3D 84" Class 2160p Cinema Ultra HD 240hz LED Smart HDTV with wifi. 3840x2160 lines of resolution.

Oh just a little bit less than
17k in price.

Mark
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In the late 1990's, I clearly remember seeing one of the first so-called "Flat HD TV's" at my local Sears store. It was a 42" (832x480 resolution) plasma, manufactured by Philips, NV. ............Price: $14,999.99

Don't know how many they sold, but it was certainly an impressive display, sitting just inside the front door.

As for 4k, from the reports I've read one needs at least a 60-70 inch display to see actual resolution improvement over today's 1080p, and to have any type of "3D" experience, without the content actually being 3D and/or wearing glasses. Guess that's why the LG you described, as well as Sony and Samsung's first UHDT's are 83" or larger.

Unlike the late 1990's and early 2000's, technology and facilities are in place to manufacture these large UHDT's. The problem is not even content, as most movies made today are recorded in either 4 or 7k. The real problem is delivering this content for viewing. One hour uncompressed/interlaced 4k needs 1.72 TB storage, while uncompressed/progressive 4k requires 3.44 TB storage**. eek.gif

** Video-Bitrate Calculator: HERE

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post #22925 of 23752
1/28/13 at 2:23pm
Burke's Law looks really good in spp
on my Mag 535.

I think i'll scene delete those.They only made 81 episodes of Burke's Law.
Often an All Star Cast.

Mark
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post #22926 of 23752
1/28/13 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

Very true. With no choice I can go dish or rent/buy a DVD. When I decided to use my TiVo and drop the STB it was a net loss since the STB was part of a package so I was now being charged al la carte. They didn't tell me that until I gave back the STB. All things considered my cable company is great, but money is money. My cable internet is pretty bad also, so going that route isn't my first choice. It's a cruel world.

Same thing happened to me; I had though that the investment in the TiVo would be largely offset by not having to pay monthly on the DVR. I was told I would get a credit by customer service, but they reneged. However, I went to the office and whined and they set me up with another package that worked out well for me. Try whining.
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post #22927 of 23752
1/28/13 at 6:05pm
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When do you think we will see the first cable company to do this? It's been a year since they have been allowed, but I haven't seen any reports. They did use a great argument for having a STB for every TV: no more trucks needed for activation or deactivation. Losing analog is gradually happening for basic cable, but I wonder how many will drop cable and go to a dish instead. I don't see anybody coming out with new televisions without a clear QAM tuner. Someday, but not tomorrow.

Comcast has already gone all digital in a large city, Chicago I think, due primaryly to cable theft. When OTA stations were forced to drop NTSC analog and go ATSC digital the cable companies were forced to continue analog service. The requirement expired recently or will soon.

There has been an exemption to the analog rule that said a cable provider could drop all analog and replace with digital if they provided customers with free converter boxes. But until recently they couldn't encrypt the locals.
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post #22928 of 23752
1/28/13 at 7:36pm
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post #22929 of 23752
1/29/13 at 3:49am
Regarding scrambling cable, I gave up on the constantly-changing cable channels a couple of years ago, which was almost as much of a problem as them being scrambled. (But, they seemed to have been increasing the channels that are scrambled.) Plus, once you get to the point where only local channels are un-scrambled, you might as well just use the antenna. (At the moment, I think I'm still connected to the cable, not an antenna, but I'm not recording much lately.)

Here, they have "included" basic cable with internet service. If you don't want basic cable, internet service goes up by a large chunk (about $20) that effectively amounts to basic (non-HD) cable. If they encrypted local channels and took away the $20 fee, that would make it easier to go all-internet and just use the antenna, for those who really want to cut back; seems counter-productive for the cable company, but then again, if they make enough with internet-only, maybe they'll be happy to do that?

I got the 2160a for convenience, but really, if money were no object, a HTPC makes more sense. For OTA, recording HD is no problem, for one thing. But for cable, it seems like only the cable company's box will work, whether HD or not.
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post #22930 of 23752
1/29/13 at 6:11am
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Firefox with the Stylish add-on removes all of that. I think someone mentioned IE can be made to work the same way by inputting the same code in a stylesheet.
By removing the side ads you miss great ones like this:


I sent them an email last year to see if they would fix it.
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1/29/13 at 6:17am
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By removing the side ads you miss great ones like this:


I sent them an email last year to see if they would fix it.

I don't get to see any of that junk. smile.gif
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1/29/13 at 6:20am
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post #22933 of 23752
1/29/13 at 11:09am
Who is running Burke's Law?
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post #22934 of 23752
1/29/13 at 12:48pm
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Who is running Burke's Law?
MeTV.
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post #22935 of 23752
1/29/13 at 8:01pm
Philips transfers lifestyle unit to Funai Electric for $202M

Summary: Japanese company Funai will pay 150 million euros and an undisclosed brand license fee to carry Philips' audio, video, multimedia and accessories products, allowing the latter to focus on its health and wellness business.


http://www.zdnet.com/philips-transfers-lifestyle-unit-to-funai-electric-for-202m-7000010532/
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post #22936 of 23752
1/30/13 at 3:42am
Price up again at walmart.com: 244/248/288. All models of the TiVo are now being sold.
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post #22937 of 23752
1/30/13 at 10:25am
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

Price up again at walmart.com: 244/248/288. All models of the TiVo are now being sold.
Back in early December, these MDR prices were: $199, $239 and $279.
According to Walmart's current sales figures:
  • 60% purchase the 533
  • 15% purchase the 535
  • 10% purchase the 537
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post #22938 of 23752
1/30/13 at 10:37am
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Originally Posted by stapler1234 View Post

Back in early December, these MDR prices were: $199, $239 and $279.
According to Walmart's current sales figures:
  • 60% purchase the 533
  • 15% purchase the 535
  • 10% purchase the 537
That's not a surprize. I put a 500GB into my 2160A. Then I bought a 515H. I have never passed the 50% level of either one's storage. If I wanted an archive library I would burn a DVD. I tend to record a season and 100 hours at HQ is good for that.

I'm a little surprized at walmart's decision to carry the TiVo line. I wonder what they are trying to do. It's something to watch.
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post #22939 of 23752
1/30/13 at 10:53am
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Originally Posted by stapler1234 View Post

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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

Price up again at walmart.com: 244/248/288. All models of the TiVo are now being sold.
Back in early December, these MDR prices were: $199, $239 and $279.
According to Walmart's current sales figures:
  • 60% purchase the 533
  • 15% purchase the 535
  • 10% purchase the 537

 

Those WM numbers are bogus...  open each model page and the numbers get diametrically opposed. 537 page showed for me (doesn't always include "what people bought" section):

 

  • 5% purchase the 533
  • 7% purchase the 535
  • 76% purchase the 537

Edited by wajo - 1/30/13 at 11:57am
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post #22940 of 23752
1/30/13 at 11:47am
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Those WM numbers are bogus...  open each model page and the numbers get diametrically opposed:

  • 5% purchase the 533
  • 7% purchase the 535
  • 76% purchase the 537
Ok, color me stupid. Could you drop a link that shows the sales figures? Or where on the item page are they displayed?
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post #22941 of 23752
1/30/13 at 12:00pm
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The "what people bought" stats are aparently a "rotating" item on their pages, see my edit above.

 

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Check that... it appears that getting to a WM page thru an AVS Forum link (like on pg 1) gets a product page with "what people viewed" above product pic and "other things people bought" below.

 

Getting to a product page from a "pure" unadulterated link like from Walmart.com shows the "what was ultimately purchased" section, w/o the "what people viewed" section above the product pic.

 

Can't link to such a page here since the site messes with what gets shown somehow... I always wondered why my links on pg 1 didn't show the same stuff as my "pure" links from a walmart.com search result.

 

To get an unadulterated page, you have to go to walmart.com, search for Magnavox HDD, then click on one of the models.

 

However, based on the diametrically opposite results, it appears they also list the models eventually bought by people who visit that specific product page and don't represent a comparison between all the models in their inventory?

 

Should be accessible from this page.


Edited by wajo - 1/30/13 at 1:43pm
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post #22942 of 23752
1/30/13 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Those WM numbers are bogus...  open each model page and the numbers get diametrically opposed. 537 page showed for me (doesn't always include "what people bought" section):
  • 5% purchase the 533
  • 7% purchase the 535
  • 76% purchase the 537
The original figures I quoted were percentages Walmart claim resulted from their "Recommendations". (These percentages do fluctuate every so often, possibly reflecting new sales.)

Currently those figures read:
533 - 64%
535 - 10%
537 - 16%
(wonder what the remaining 6% bought?)

The figures are probably WAG's anyways. rolleyes.gif

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post #22943 of 23752
1/30/13 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I'm a little surprized at walmart's decision to carry the TiVo line. I wonder what they are trying to do. It's something to watch.

I'm sure it'll be more successful that the Walmart/Dish in-store promotion last month for the "Boxee".
(68% gave that unit a 1-star rating.)

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post #22944 of 23752
1/30/13 at 3:37pm
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I'm sure it'll be more successful that the Walmart/Dish in-store promotion last month for the "Boxee".
(68% gave that unit a 1-star rating.)

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I'm not trying to disparage or put down anyone who buys at Walmart, but no mention of the service needed was found anywhere, or mention of a cable card. I understand they are sold at Sam's. What made me even mention it was that the TiVo seems to be in-store and few Magnavox units are. That, plus the Walmart lowest price attitude. This may be another attempt to "upscale" like George. That was a disaster in the U.S. but still strong in the U.K. for some reason. Time will tell I guess.
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post #22945 of 23752
1/30/13 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

What made me even mention it was that the TiVo seems to be in-store and few Magnavox units are. That, plus the Walmart lowest price attitude.
When I search walmart.com for tivo the first result is the Magnavox MDR533. biggrin.gif
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post #22946 of 23752
1/30/13 at 4:02pm
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When I search walmart.com for tivo the first result is the Magnavox MDR533. biggrin.gif
I know. I saw that last month.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/940657/magnavox-537-535-533-515-513-2160a-2160-2080-philips-3576-3575/22550_50#post_22746874
Then it was just the WiFi adapter and replacement remote. Now they have everything except the service. They still have the 533H first. That's one strange company.
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post #22947 of 23752
1/30/13 at 4:16pm
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I know. I saw that last month.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/940657/magnavox-537-535-533-515-513-2160a-2160-2080-philips-3576-3575/22550_50#post_22746874
Then it was just the WiFi adapter and replacement remote. Now they have everything except the service. They still have the 533H first. That's one strange company.
They have a good price for the Premier 4 -- same as BestBuy & Amazon, I don't see any lower.
Not so good price for the Premier -- basically list price, BestBuy & Amazon have it for $99.

So I wonder what they do with all the returned TiVo's when somebody buys one and finds out the rest of the deal. I can't see the walmart crowd shelling out $500 for lifetime.
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post #22948 of 23752
1/30/13 at 4:48pm
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They have a good price for the Premier 4 -- same as BestBuy & Amazon, I don't see any lower.
Not so good price for the Premier -- basically list price, BestBuy & Amazon have it for $99.

So I wonder what they do with all the returned TiVo's when somebody buys one and finds out the rest of the deal. I can't see the walmart crowd shelling out $500 for lifetime.
I can't see them doing that either. This may be a bad experiment for Walmart. They have a great return policy, but while I live in a rural area and have several stores near, the prices keep rising and the selection keeps dropping. Since they make $1B profit monthly, I doubt they will notice.
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post #22949 of 23752
1/31/13 at 7:56am
Based on the current prices, I wonder why anyone would go for the 533. For 4$ more, you get about 30% more storage. Add for only another 20$, you double it over.

Anyway, about the post I made on Sunday, I tried the same with the other unit (exact same model = 513) and same results. When I plug my incoming feed from the antenna in the "OUT" plug instead if "IN", I lose FOX on UHF channel 44, but add PBS on 32. I have nothing connected in the "IN" connector at all.
Go back to "IN", back to having FOX, but no more PBS confused.gif

This is quite puzzling. Definately not a fluke, since it's the exact same results on 2 units.
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1/31/13 at 8:20am
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Based on the current prices, I wonder why anyone would go for the 533. For 4$ more, you get about 30% more storage. Add for only another 20$, you double it over.

Anyway, about the post I made on Sunday, I tried the same with the other unit (exact same model = 513) and same results. When I plug my incoming feed from the antenna in the "OUT" plug instead if "IN", I lose FOX on UHF channel 44, but add PBS on 32. I have nothing connected in the "IN" connector at all.
Go back to "IN", back to having FOX, but no more PBS confused.gif

This is quite puzzling. Definately not a fluke, since it's the exact same results on 2 units.

 

Put a splitter between the incoming coax and the Mag, connect to the IN and see if it gets both channels... might have to rescan?

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