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post #23941 of 25446
Many, MANY thanks for the suggestions, folks. That at least gives me a direction to go with this 24/7 recording project!

I have to tell you, though, to me the BIGGEST oversight in the programming is that when the HD fills up...the box just stops. Old recordings don't roll off, no warning message appears (AFAIK), it just stops without warning. I'd give more than a 20 oz steak dinner to get THAT fixed!
post #23942 of 25446
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Originally Posted by RangerDave View Post

A quick update on my Monoprice 3x hdmi switch problem: It is now working.

I picked up an hdmi coupler to join the cable from the 3575 directly to the cable going to the tv....and still no sound! I checked the HDMI Audio Out setting of the 3575 and found it was still OFF from my last test. I set it to ON and got sound via the joined cables.

Just for fun, I hooked everything back up to the 3x switch, but still no sound. I toggled through all the inputs several times and lo and behold...the 4th try yielded sound! It's been working fine since. I hooked up the iPad and it switched automatically, then switched back to the 3575 when I unplugged the hdmi video adapter from the iPad.

Thanks for your input in trying to diagnose this problem. I'll chalk it up to a flakey switch. Hopefully all it really needed was for the selector switch to be cycled several times. At least now I have a coupler that I can manually swap cables if/when the switch fails again.

RangerDave




Ive long ago given up trying to explain these mysterious events... just enjoy the success and keep a back up plan! My problem with flakey cable woes is that once fixed, the incidents are so few and far between, I forget the solution in the interim. Might be worth attaching the coupler to the cable (or add a note), so it'll be handy and remind you when something goes kaplooy.

Congrats on getting it working (and for the endurance necessary to troubleshoot something that pesky!) Good job!
post #23943 of 25446
Hi, Everyone
My unit every now and then the sound will go off for a few seconds then come back on. It only does this when I am watching TV (Digital TV)thru the unit. Never does it when playing a DVD. Is this common of should I return it under warranty ?
Thanks
post #23944 of 25446
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Originally Posted by Ralph289 View Post

Hi, Everyone
My unit every now and then the sound will go off for a few seconds then come back on. It only does this when I am watching TV (Digital TV)thru the unit. Never does it when playing a DVD. Is this common of should I return it under warranty ?
Thanks

You haven't said much about your configuration. Are you still cable with a box and splitter? Does the Mag audio still feed your older receiver with stereo RW cables with only HDMI video going to your TV?

 

I have never had audio dropouts from my cable feed. My 515H feeds an AVR that feeds a TV. All is HDMI and all I watch or record is digital. I'm not going to be much help. If you have an extended warranty, it should be easy to change the Mag.

 

It might be easier to just try a different cable(s).

post #23945 of 25446
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

You haven't said much about your configuration. Are you still cable with a box and splitter? Does the Mag audio still feed your older receiver with stereo RW cables with only HDMI video going to your TV?

I have never had audio dropouts from my cable feed. My 515H feeds an AVR that feeds a TV. All is HDMI and all I watch or record is digital. I'm not going to be much help. If you have an extended warranty, it should be easy to change the Mag.

It might be easier to just try a different cable(s).
Sorry, yes same set up. HDMI cable from Mag to Tv but no HDMI from Digital cable box (none on box).
Do have an extended warranty.
post #23946 of 25446
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ralph289 View Post

Hi, Everyone
My unit every now and then the sound will go off for a few seconds then come back on. It only does this when I am watching TV (Digital TV)thru the unit. Never does it when playing a DVD. Is this common of should I return it under warranty ?
Thanks

 

In my area, watching Fox LIVE is frustrating due to the many video/audio dropouts and gaps! Idol was particularly bad this year, so it can be just some shows, not network-wide.

 

You need to eliminate the network broadcast first, then troubleshoot cables, etc., not easy but possible over time.

post #23947 of 25446
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

In my area, watching Fox LIVE is frustrating due to the many video/audio dropouts and gaps! Idol was particularly bad this year, so it can be just some shows, not network-wide.

You need to eliminate the network broadcast first, then troubleshoot cables, etc., not easy but possible over time.
I will have to pay more attention to that.
thanks
post #23948 of 25446
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Originally Posted by Ralph289 View Post


Sorry, yes same set up. HDMI cable from Mag to Tv but no HDMI from Digital cable box (none on box).
Do have an extended warranty.

I would get a $2 HDMI cable from:

 

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240

 

You don't need ethernet. Cables do go bad. Since your cable box has no HDMI it's probably old. See if your cable company will give you a new one.

 

If you can record the audio dropouts then the issue is most likely NOT the Magnavox. My cable feed found bad equipment and I could record the audio drops. They did have video "streaking" also. They fixed the equipment. If you can't record the drops (a repeatable problem) then it's more likely on your end. Next time you detect an audio drop, even with live TV, there is a big buffer in the Mag so just hit REW and see if it's also in the buffer. That would mean it was likely fed to you by the cable company. Good luck.

post #23949 of 25446
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ralph289 View Post

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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

In my area, watching Fox LIVE is frustrating due to the many video/audio dropouts and gaps! Idol was particularly bad this year, so it can be just some shows, not network-wide.

You need to eliminate the network broadcast first, then troubleshoot cables, etc., not easy but possible over time.
I will have to pay more attention to that.
thanks

 

I should have also mentioned that I'm on basic cable and the dropouts were only on the cableco's DIGITAL Fox Channel, and usually in a specific show's production (i.e., it's repeatable week-to-week here)... their analog channel seems to be OK.


Edited by wajo - 6/30/13 at 8:51am
post #23950 of 25446
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I would get a $2 HDMI cable from:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240

You don't need ethernet. Cables do go bad. Since your cable box has no HDMI it's probably old. See if your cable company will give you a new one.

If you can record the audio dropouts then the issue is most likely NOT the Magnavox. My cable feed found bad equipment and I could record the audio drops. They did have video "streaking" also. They fixed the equipment. If you can't record the drops (a repeatable problem) then it's more likely on your end. Next time you detect an audio drop, even with live TV, there is a big buffer in the Mag so just hit REW and see if it's also in the buffer. That would mean it was likely fed to you by the cable company. Good luck.
Yes it is an old box. I will have to check what you said to see if it is the box or the Mag.
Good idea !
Thanks
post #23951 of 25446
The other night my Mag.2160A impressed me so much i have to post this.
I wanted to watch an old Sci-Fi movie i recorded to a T-Y disc a few years ago.So i popped it into one of my Sony DVD player's but the Sony choked on it and wouldn't play it.So i popped the disc into another Sony DVD player but it choked too.Normally these two Sony's will play anything i feed them.They're not finicky.Then i popped the disc into a cheap Toshiba DVD player somebody gave me but it too choked and wouldn't play the disc.
So then i popped the disc into my laptop and tried playing it on the laptops DVD player but it wouldn't play it either.So then checked it using Nero Disc Speed. Nero found several bad spots so i figured the disc was damaged and couldn't be played anymore.
So just out of curiosity i put the disc in my Mag.2160A and VIOLA!!! the disc played flawlessly even though it seems to be damaged and none of my DVD players can play it anymore even though ALL of the DVD player's were able to play the disc in the past..I thought that was mighty damn impressive!smile.gif
Edited by greaser - 7/2/13 at 6:38pm
post #23952 of 25446
Then I'd play it realtime on the Mag and record it to the HDD and finally HS burn it to a new DVD. You'll suffer a generation loss but using SP you shouldn't lose too much and that DVD should play in anything.
I've found Sony players to be pretty good but my Pioneers seem to play things even my Sonys won't smile.gif
I've got model 400, 410 and 610 Pioneer players(late 00's model year).
post #23953 of 25446
I burned a bunch of movies to a spool of 50 Maxell DVD-Rs before I started using T-Y only. Nothing will play a big bunch of the Maxells now, including my Funais, of which I have 5.
post #23954 of 25446
My 3575 is pretty much retired and I used my HD DVD, Blu Ray, and Denon multiformat HD audio/DVD player to play movies and disks. One of my best players of bad disks was a Pioneer 563a that was replaced by the Denon. I guess they used a really good drive as far as bad disk reading and we used to keep track of that with the PC DVD burners I played with as a forgiving drive could rip bad disks fast and make great copies.
Probably all the generations have a forgiving drive in them and it probably cut down on warranty claims.
post #23955 of 25446
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

Then I'd play it realtime on the Mag and record it to the HDD and finally HS burn it to a new DVD.

That's exactly what i did.wink.gif
post #23956 of 25446
Even the best quality discs have a finite life span. I try & check my discs at least once per year
and make new copies of any that show signs of aging.
post #23957 of 25446
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Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post

Even the best quality discs have a finite life span. I try & check my discs at least once per year
and make new copies of any that show signs of aging.

Yea discs do age. I have plenty of discs that are 4-5-6 and even 7 years old that show no visible signs of aging and still play well on all of my DVD players.Other discs go bad after only ~ one year.
The disc that i posted on is ~2 years old and shows some cloudiness on the obverse side though it looks to be in pristine condition on the recorded side of the disc.But with well over 900 discs in my collection it's impossible to check them for signs of aging other than when i play them. The disc i posted on played well a year ago,but over the past year it somehow developed bad sectors and now it doesn't play anymore except on the Mag 2160A,so i made a new copy on a fresh disc,and threw the original disc away.
This is also the first time one of my DVDR's was able to play a disc that my DVD player's couldn't play that i have checked.
I just wish that i would've tried playing the disc on my Philips 3576,Mag.500 or my LG DVDR to see if those DVDR's have error correction as good as the Mag.2160A has before i threw the disc away.
Edited by greaser - 7/2/13 at 9:59pm
post #23958 of 25446
I have several of the Universal Home Video dvd's that are the 2 sided flipper discs.
All of them play perfectly on my Panny and Sony bluray/dvd players...until recently, one freezes up and skips.
These discs have a bad rep for failure, well documented on many sites, due to poor wc in Mexico that was making them for Univ.

This one problem disc will play w/o issue on my Mag515. Very interesting
post #23959 of 25446
Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post
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Even the best quality discs have a finite life span. I try & check my discs at least once per year
and make new copies of any that show signs of aging.

What are the signs of aging to look for besides not playing at all? I have a number of older discs I haven't used in awhile.
post #23960 of 25446
One visual indicator is delamination. This will first show up as discoloration or clouding around the outside edge or center hub. This might spread with time. This is why DVDs should be stored out of direct sunlight in a cool, dry environment. Store them upright where there is no weight placed on them. Avoid bending a DVD such as when removing from a jewel case or clamshell case. My DVDs are placed in albums stored upright in a bookcase:


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Edited by DigaDo - 7/3/13 at 12:10pm
post #23961 of 25446
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Originally Posted by joekoler View Post

Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post
Quote:
Even the best quality discs have a finite life span. I try & check my discs at least once per year
and make new copies of any that show signs of aging.

What are the signs of aging to look for besides not playing at all? I have a number of older discs I haven't used in awhile.

Pixilation, temporary freeze frame, etc. or stalling when trying to fast forward through the whole movie.
In extreme cases a disc going bad can lock up the player.
post #23962 of 25446
Hello everyone, new to this forum but just thought I'd post an offer of help to anyone having issues setting up the Magnavox model 537. I just got mine today and set it up making my first successful HDD timer recording in under an hour. I must say if this unit performs like this for a period of years I will be a very happy Magnavox owner. I've had two Panasonic DVRs and although I love them, I find they are very fragile and the writers are very short lived and finicky.Also very hard to get replacements. Hopefully this one will be better. At the least it will be cheaper to replace important parts. The writer in my Panasonic eh55 is near $1000 to replace.
post #23963 of 25446
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Originally Posted by Aragorn8354 View Post

Hello everyone, new to this forum but just thought I'd post an offer of help to anyone having issues setting up the Magnavox model 537. I just got mine today and set it up making my first successful HDD timer recording in under an hour. I must say if this unit performs like this for a period of years I will be a very happy Magnavox owner. I've had two Panasonic DVRs and although I love them, I find they are very fragile and the writers are very short lived and finicky.Also very hard to get replacements. Hopefully this one will be better. At the least it will be cheaper to replace important parts. The writer in my Panasonic eh55 is near $1000 to replace.

$1000 ???

You haven't described the problem(s) with your Panasonic DVD Drives. The most common problems--reading, writing and finalizing failures--are usually caused by a dirty rubber hub atop the spindle (turntable). Perhaps a routine do-it-yourself cleaning procedure will resolve the problem(s).

This post has basic diagnostic information and describes and illustrates the cleaning procedures. DVD Drives seldom need replacement. Optical pick-ups (the laser assembly) sometimes require replacement. The post has contact information for Mickinct in the event that actual repairs/replacements are needed.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1055071/panasonic-2006-and-newer-dvd-drive-hub-spindle-cleaning-and-reassembly-complications/0_60#post_14479898
Edited by DigaDo - 7/4/13 at 11:38am
post #23964 of 25446
That was the price quoted by panasonic a few years back after warrenty ran out. The cleaning procedure you describe I have been using for several years now with frequent weekly cleanings needed to continue to use the drive. Sadly I am severely disabled and living on very limited income so it will take awhile to save up for repair to the unit. Another user PM'd me about Mickinct and will probably contact him to see what the cost would be if needed. Not too sure I will bother as I am finding my new Mag 537 it took forever to save for seems to do everything I had hoped for and more. My EH75(model w/vcr) fried a HDD. I still have it but its nonfunctional. The DMR-EH55S model has a hard time reading discs without frequent cleanings and has an even harder time with ram discs than any others. Factory recorded discs read fine and play fine. It's still usable but is a pain to clean spindle, although I'm not sure its the cleaning but the getting the spindle rubber grippy that helps. Oddly it now records but won't play back it's own recordings, yet my new MAG537 plays them all fine lmao. Happy to discuss my DMR-EH55S issues with you DigaDo and if I wasn't clear enough or you need more info than In gave feel free to tell me

Also as I use the MAG 537 more today I found a solution for those who want to record from a cable box without a lot of complicated splitting and wiring. Anyone who owns any vcr or dvr with a cable mouse need only hook up the MAG without the cable box and feed the box through the unit with the cable mouse to any of the L1/L2/L3 inputs of the MAG. Setting the MAG to the inputs prior to setting up Timer recording allows you to timer record using the menu through the inputs even if you switch to other sources on the MAG, when the timed recording on the MAG comes up it switches to and records from the input you set in Timer Record. Using the second unit with the cable mouse allows you to switch the cable box channel at precisely the time you need to record anything off your box. Not sure if this helps sattelite people but any regular cable box uswer should be able to do this. If this was already discussed in the thread sorry but i couldn't find it.
post #23965 of 25446
Thread Starter 
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... I found a solution for those who want to record from a cable box without a lot of complicated splitting and wiring. Anyone who owns any vcr or dvr with a cable mouse need only hook up the MAG without the cable box and feed the box through the unit with the cable mouse to any of the L1/L2/L3 inputs of the MAG. Setting the MAG to the inputs prior to setting up Timer recording allows you to timer record using the menu through the inputs even if you switch to other sources on the MAG, when the timed recording on the MAG comes up it switches to and records from the input you set in Timer Record. Using the second unit with the cable mouse allows you to switch the cable box channel at precisely the time you need to record anything off your box. Not sure if this helps sattelite people but any regular cable box uswer should be able to do this. If this was already discussed in the thread sorry but i couldn't find it.

 

Here's the help file on Recording to the HDD, incl. use with STB/DVRs.

 

Here's the complete list of double-indexed help files.

post #23966 of 25446
In response to your directing me to those help files for STB's you realize not all cable boxes have a timer feature in them forcing a manual channel change without a cable mouse. With that in mind for those people with low tech cable boxes unless you don't like sleep you still need something to change that channel. Knowing how cheap old sony vcrs with cable mouse's are it's a cheap alternative to lot of wiring/splitting/added equipment.

Please don't take this as picking a fight or nit picking I just didn't see anything there that was helpful in my situation.

OMG I really am going blind in my old age lol. Sorry it was right there and I missed it because I forgot they were also called IR Blasters.
Edited by Aragorn8354 - 7/4/13 at 3:16pm
post #23967 of 25446
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Please don't take this as picking a fight or nit picking I just didn't see anything there that was helpful in my situation.

Nobody fights on this thread. It's agains the rules. smile.gif Since you want to record though a cable box does that mean your cable feed doesn't have the channels you wish to record unless you use the cable company's box?

 

Picking nits is ok.

post #23968 of 25446
Hi everyone,

I have been using the 2160a for a few years now. It has been very reliable and I love it and use it a lot. I have Comcast limited basic and I don't have a cable box. I hook the incoming cable line to my 2160a and then use an HDMI cable to connect from the Mag to my TV. Recently, I have been having the following problem. When my Mag is off, the picture reception on my TV is good on all channels, using the tuner in my TV. However, when the Mag is on, the reception on my TV [using the TV tuner] is very poor on 4 channels . The picture breaks up to the point to where it is unwatchable. When I turn the mag off, the picture returns to good quality. The problem channels are: Channel 7.1 [ABC], and the 3 PBS channels -- 56.1, 56.2, 56.3. All other channels have good reception, with no signs of breakup. I have not made any changes that could account for this problem.

This problem does not allow me to watch programs on channel 7, 56..., while recording programs on other channels with the Mag.

Anybody got any ideas on what is going on here, and how to fix it?

Jer01
Edited by JER01 - 7/4/13 at 12:20pm
post #23969 of 25446
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Originally Posted by JER01 View Post

Hi everyone,

I have been using the 2160a for a few years now. It has been very reliable and I love it and use it a lot. I have Comcast limited basic and I don't have a cable box. I hook the incoming cable line to my 2160a and then use an HDMI cable to connect from the Mag to my TV. Recently, I have been having the following problem. When my Mag is off, the picture reception on my TV is good on all channels, using the tuner in my TV. However, when the Mag is on, the reception on my TV [using the TV tuner] is very poor on 4 channels . The picture breaks up to the point to where it is unwatchable. When I turn the mag off, the picture returns to good quality. The problem channels are: Channel 7.1 [ABC], and the 3 PBS channels -- 56.1, 56.2, 56.3. All other channels have good reception, with no signs of breakup. I have not made any changes that could account for this problem.

This problem does not allow me to watch programs on channel 7, 56..., while recording programs on other channels with the Mag.

Anybody got any ideas on what is going on here, and how to fix it?

Jer01

As long as the 2160A is plugged in and receiving power it should provide a small amplification of rf signals. This would not be affected by the power button. Does your TV have a signal strength meter to measure the rf signal? Digital signals usually need a big change to see any change in screen display. My cable comes in at 98 (measured by the Mag) and my TV gets about a 37 SNR from its tuner for all channels. There is no meter for my analog channels, but they are much lower.

post #23970 of 25446
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Originally Posted by Aragorn8354 View Post

That was the price quoted by panasonic a few years back after warrenty ran out. The cleaning procedure you describe I have been using for several years now with frequent weekly cleanings needed to continue to use the drive. Sadly I am severely disabled and living on very limited income so it will take awhile to save up for repair to the unit... My EH75(model w/vcr) fried a HDD. I still have it but its nonfunctional. The DMR-EH55S model has a hard time reading discs without frequent cleanings and has an even harder time with ram discs than any others. Factory recorded discs read fine and play fine. It's still usable but is a pain to clean spindle, although I'm not sure its the cleaning but the getting the spindle rubber grippy that helps. Oddly it now records but won't play back it's own recordings, yet my new MAG537 plays them all fine lmao. Happy to discuss my DMR-EH55S issues with you DigaDo...

Just a few comments. I currently have one dozen recorders set up for daily use. The Panasonics in current heavy use have the routine cleaning performed once a year. Weekly cleaning would seem to me to be too frequent. The Magnavox and Philips models do not require regular cleaning.

Since September 2005 I have home-recorded more than 13,000 DVDs.

I own eight Magnavox and two Philips HDD/DVD Recorders including these Magnavox models, two 515, two 2160A, three 2160, one upgraded 2080, and one each Philips 3576 and 3575. I also own around thirty Panasonic DVD Recorders, including four HDD/DVD models, two 2005 DMR-EH50 models and two 2006 DMR-EH75 models. Of my Panasonic DVD Recorders in current use the busiest are 2006 models DMR-ES25 (through composite inputs from a Comcast Motorola DCX3200 HD converter box), DMR-ES35 (daisy-chained RF input from the DCX3200 converter box), DMR-ES15 (daisy-chained RF input from the DCX3200 converter box) and a DMR-EA18 of 2009 manufacture (through S-Video input from the Comcast Motorola DCX3200 HD converter box). The busiest of my HDD/DVD Recorders are the two 2005 DMR-EH50 models (both with two or three S-Video and composite input feeds from various sources-including a Roku 2XS and a Comcast Motorola DCT700 cable box and a Monoprice LKV2000 converter box for recording from the computer and internet). I have several switch boxes to feed recorder outputs to the TVs, two of which are in my home office and one of which is in my bedroom.

I service and repair Panasonic recorders (as needed) but only those owned by my immediate family. I give occasional advice concerning Panasonic service and repair but I do not repair recorders owned by others.
Edited by DigaDo - 7/4/13 at 1:12pm
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