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post #241 of 25426
Great info here. I've read through but haven't found an answer to this question: although this post states that this machine records 16:9 Aspect Ratio from Digital 16:9 Channel, does this apply to 16:9 input from a DV camcorder via the firewire input?

Can this machine then make a 16:9 DVD-R, after editing on the HDD, originally from that 16:9 DV camcorder video source? And is it a high-speed dub?
post #242 of 25426
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I don't do any DV copying, hopefully someone else does and can help there. Your question, however, prompted me to look at my post on aspect ratio and I noticed I didn't mention that I used high-speed for my dub, so I added that. Thanks for mentioning the HS dub element.
post #243 of 25426
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Holy c**, I had to delete my post on Ubid.com having units... someone on Videohelp.com noted they were PAL units!

At least that's what the Specs say in a link on their web page!
post #244 of 25426
My ubid unit just arrived and I'm setting up the channels even as I type. Since I'm in Minnesota and the tuner is finding channels, mine at least is not a PAL machine. (It has an April build date on the serial-number sticker and a pink slip attesting to its having passed final inspection at Ozark Electronics, Inc.)

This is my second 3575, and the immediate problems are 1) how to rearrange the cabling and 2) where to stack the thing so that the remote only talks to the one I want it to.
post #245 of 25426
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Originally Posted by Rletson View Post

My ubid unit just arrived and I'm setting up the channels even as I type. Since I'm in Minnesota and the tuner is finding channels, mine at least is not a PAL machine. (It has an April build date on the serial-number sticker and a pink slip attesting to its having passed final inspection at Ozark Electronics, Inc.)

This is my second 3575, and the immediate problems are 1) how to rearrange the cabling and 2) where to stack the thing so that the remote only talks to the one I want it to.

1) Cabling - Assuming you're OTA or on cable, and you want them on the same tv, just run the coax from one to the other and on to the TV. Oops, just realized you may or may not have enough separate TV LINE inputs... each 3575 should normally have its separate line input to the TV? BUT, you may only have one line input on your TV? If so, I'm thinking you'll be watching only one unit at a time, and there must be some clever way to combine the line outputs to the TV so both units use the same TV input? Interesting! A Combiner? What happens then if both units are on at the same time... garbled pic, a small explosion... stand back when engaging??? Inquiring minds want to know!

2) Remote - Since the 3575 remote doesn't have "codes" to distinguish between units, when you want to watch something on one unit but not the other, turn that unit on manually. Once one unit is ON, you can then press the ON button on the remote and it'll turn the 1st unit off, and the 2nd unit on, as many times as you want to switch back and forth... one unit will always be on and one off, so you'll have to make your final OFF manually, just like you started the on/off series.

P.S. Were you able to delete that "bad" title from your HDD?
post #246 of 25426
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Originally Posted by Rletson View Post

Since I'm in Minnesota and the tuner is finding channels, mine at least is not a PAL machine.

Not necessarily the best indicator - the video system (NTSC/PAL/SECAM) and the channel spectrum allocation scheme are two independent variables - that's why they have so many different PAL-lettercode systems listed. A better indicator is that a PAL device will show an NTSC composite video signal as black & white, and vice-versa.
post #247 of 25426
Wab (may I call you Wab?), I wish the connections were that simple. This is my fifth recording device, and my distribution and switching setup has gotten so rats-nesty that I have to reinvent it every time I swap in a new box. Ideally, I'd like to be able to record any signal from my STB to any device and any device to any other device for dubbing. But that's not going to happen, so I have a couple of switches and lots of cabling to crawl around in while I try to make sense of the labels I put on things. The TV has four available inputs plus its own tuner, so it's the matrix of connections that makes for the headaches. That and the black spaghetti that lives behind the boxes and threatens to strangle the cats.

I'm settling on locating the two Philips boxes high and low in the stack (about 4 feet apart) and see if the remote is directional enough. If not, I'll just have to live with the increased level of exercise involved.

Haven't managed to get that rogue title erased, but no other glitches have emerged in the course of a fair amount of dumping-to-DVDR, title-erasing, and such. I like the way the 3575 works so well that I took a chance on that refurb. We'll see how it stands up to a period of intensive time-shifting (Wednesday night seems to have attracted about half the programs we like to follow--and the new school term starts that day, so my wife's telly watching goes back on the save-it-up-for-the-weekend mode).
post #248 of 25426
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So, the ubid unit DID scan U.S. analog and digital channels just like your 1st unit?

There's some question left unanswered whether the unit is PAL or not. I checked the ubid site and the model # is just DVDV3575H... no /37 at the end to indicate a North American unit.

Does your unit model number on the back have the "/37" or is it "/31" ???

Please confirm that you get normal channel pic and it has "/37" at end of model #???

You can call me Wab or whatever you want, as long as it can be spelled out w/o using asterisks!
post #249 of 25426
Physical installation is complete, so I can't get to the back of the unit to check the model suffix (that strangled-by-cables problem), but the paperwork says it's a /37 and it scans and receives Charter's analog and digital lineup, records on the HD, plays back a DVD-R made on the other unit, and takes composite video just fine. So I'm guessing that ubid linked to the wrong page. Last thing to check out is timer behavior, which is tonight's project--I'm also curious what the digital HD programming from the Minneapolis local stations looks like played back on our SD system--direct-viewed it's more contrasty than the equivalent SD program, which I take to be a result of down-conversion.

BTW, thanks for posting that alert last week--I don't monitor those sale sites and would have missed the opportunity altogether. Now we have a backup machine for the day when the Forces of Evil declare an end to time-shifting and commercial-skipping.

Can I call you Waxy? Can I call you Waxy-poo? (Whose routine is that, anyway?)

BTW part deux, the remote seems directional enough that my four feet of vertical separation allows each to be controlled without interference.
post #250 of 25426
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Rlet, great news indeed! Thanks for the info.

Waxy
post #251 of 25426
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rletson View Post

I'm also curious what the digital HD programming from the Minneapolis local stations looks like played back on our SD system--direct-viewed it's more contrasty than the equivalent SD program, which I take to be a result of down-conversion.

How are you connected to the TV?
post #252 of 25426
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Originally Posted by Rletson View Post

BTW, thanks for posting that alert last week--I don't monitor those sale sites and would have missed the opportunity altogether. Now we have a backup machine for the day when the Forces of Evil declare an end to time-shifting and commercial-skipping.

Since they do appear to be North American units, here's the link info again... use at your own risk:

ubid.com
$219.99 Buy-It-Now price.
Factory refurbished
23 units available
Return polciy = "When we receive your returned item, we will refund your order amount less a minimum 15% restocking fee and the original shipping charges."
post #253 of 25426
I tried string, but found that AV cables work better. But serially, folks--our Toshiba 24-inch CRT has two composite/S-video inputs and one component in, plus a composite-out for its internal tuner--it's about two years old and pre-HDMI and such. We're quite a while from going HD, partly because the combination of the Toshiba and the available program-material quality seem adequate right now, and partly because there's only so much space available in our book- and music-crowded living room.

Basic cable goes to the Toshiba's tuner and we view encrypted/premium STB programs via one of the DVD recorders--a Panasonic DVD/VCR or the first 3575--both of which have component as well as composite/S out. Picture quality is fine. I'm still figuring how to configure my video switch(es) to let us at least view the semi-retired Philips 75/17 (there's a big, big stack of saved up programs on +RW and unfinalized +R disks that I don't want to confuse the 3575 with).

Incoming cable signal gets sent in several directions via a four-way amplified bidirectional splitter, and there's a powered RF matrix switch that allows some choices, as well as a JVC JS-X100 passive A/V selector that sends signals to various boxes. Once it's set up it's fine--but I have yet to figure a way of documenting my connections that make sense when I have to rearrange things. (Damn little flags dry out and fall off the cables. Maybe I'll take a picture.)
post #254 of 25426
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Sorry I asked!
post #255 of 25426
I spent all afternoon on my hands and knees swapping cables, and by god everybody's gonna know every little detail! Just be thankful it wasn't my annual physical that occupied my day.
post #256 of 25426
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By golly, someone else with a sense of humor! If you can't come back and post on the 3575, at least let us know the results of your annual physical... might make a good book, screenplay... ? If it were to be soon, there is a TV writers' strike on now and they need scripts... they'd probably take anything!
post #257 of 25426
My doctor had some, um, probing questions. I was deeply moved. Deeply.
post #258 of 25426
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Originally Posted by plplplpl View Post

Great info here. I've read through but haven't found an answer to this question: although this post states that this machine records 16:9 Aspect Ratio from Digital 16:9 Channel, does this apply to 16:9 input from a DV camcorder via the firewire input?

Can this machine then make a 16:9 DVD-R, after editing on the HDD, originally from that 16:9 DV camcorder video source? And is it a high-speed dub?

Well, I couldn't help myself. I went out and got one, if only to answer my unanswered question above.
So I won't keep it.

Quite frankly, I don't see what all the excitement is all about over this machine. It's just not in the same league as the Toshibas, Panasonics and Pioneers, despite their flaws. Are we now reduced to this; is this the best we can expect now that the former three seem to be losing interest in producing HDD DVD recorders? In Canada, there are still some good HDD Pannies and Pios to be had, but for how long? OK, it has ATSC and QAM, but the Philips doesn't have nearly the features and quality of the others. It's like a consolation prize for the US market, now that the big players are pulling out. And I fear the Canadian market will follow suit if TIVO starts to make inroads here.
post #259 of 25426
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Since you're so disappointed and taking it back, it prob. doesn't matter, but did you set the Video > TV Aspect to 16:9 Wide before recording?

The default setting is 4:3 Letter Box.

Just want to know if the 3575 records 16:9 from DV as it does from the tuner.
post #260 of 25426
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Originally Posted by wabjxo View Post

Since you're so disappointed and taking it back, it prob. doesn't matter, but did you set the Video > TV Aspect to 16:9 Wide before recording?

I thought that option only affected playback.
Are you saying it affects the recording as well?
post #261 of 25426
Quote:
Originally Posted by wabjxo View Post

So, the ubid unit DID scan U.S. analog and digital channels just like your 1st unit?

There's some question left unanswered whether the unit is PAL or not. I checked the ubid site and the model # is just DVDV3575H... no /37 at the end to indicate a North American unit.

Does your unit model number on the back have the "/37" or is it "/31" ???

Please confirm that you get normal channel pic and it has "/37" at end of model #???

Actually, if you look at the very end of the specs, they list this:

Manufacturer Part Number: DVDR3575H/37B.

So all should be OK.
post #262 of 25426
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post

I thought that option only affected playback.
Are you saying it affects the recording as well?

My tests here (bottom of page) showed that it did.
post #263 of 25426
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post

I thought that option only affected playback.
Are you saying it affects the recording as well?

More correctly it affects the output of the built-in TV tuner, not the recording.
post #264 of 25426
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Originally Posted by amesdp View Post

More correctly it affects the output of the built-in TV tuner, not the recording.

That was my understanding as well. But wabjxo, you think it might affect the recording from DV Input? Then I'd be able to burn a DVD that would play 16:9 on other DVD players?
post #265 of 25426
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plplpl, I don't know since I don't have a DV camera, but I'd like to know. I've recorded 16:9 shows from a 16:9 digital broadcast thru the tuner and gotten a "natural" full-screen 16:9 recording... and high-speed dubbed to DVD.

If you still have the 3575, maybe you could try, then you can take it back?
post #266 of 25426
I just ordered one on the strength of Rletson's report that it's working OK for him, and I hope he would have mentioned if he'd plugged it into a 240V 50Hz outlet.
post #267 of 25426
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Yea, that would've been a "shocking" experience, not easily forgotten.

You should be OK since rgazzara found the "/37" in the model number at the bottom of the (wrong) Spec sheet.
post #268 of 25426
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So many people have asked how to pronounce my ill-advised screen name, wabjxo, so I changed it.

New name = wajo
post #269 of 25426
Shoot, I was just getting used to "Waxy."
post #270 of 25426
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Your new doctor, John Holmes, called and he wants to do a retest.
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