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post #24481 of 25446
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Originally Posted by MediaFan63 View Post

How does the Mag's recording quality compare to the Panny's or what Sony used to make? I'm wondering about LP speed ( 4hr), I'm guessing SP and HQ would be good.

 

It's hard to compare without model numbers but I find the upconversion quality very good. I miss the DD5.1 but I have no complaints.

post #24482 of 25446
I should have mentioned the #'s, I owned a Sony RDR-GX360, Gx355. They both had a 3hr speed which I thought was great. I have a Sony RDR-GX257 that doesn't have the 3hr speed, it jumps from 2 to 4hr. The Panny's I have are the DMR-EZ28 and EZ-48V. Does that help for a comparison?. With the sunset of the dvd recorder I'm wondering if it really would be worth it to buy another one ( Mag), or just buy or build a HTPC.

Thanks,

Anthony
post #24483 of 25446
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Originally Posted by MediaFan63 View Post

I should have mentioned the #'s, I owned a Sony RDR-GX360, Gx355. They both had a 3hr speed which I thought was great. I have a Sony RDR-GX257 that doesn't have the 3hr speed, it jumps from 2 to 4hr. The Panny's I have are the DMR-EZ28 and EZ-48V. Does that help for a comparison?. With the sunset of the dvd recorder I'm wondering if it really would be worth it to buy another one ( Mag), or just buy or build a HTPC.

Thanks,

Anthony

The Maggy has a great PQ, HQ and SP modes are awesome, but it lacks a 0 / 7.5 IRE setup circuit.

If you are going to build a HTPC don't forget to add a HDMI input device like the Hauppauge HD PVR 2.
post #24484 of 25446
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Originally Posted by profhat View Post

The Maggy ... lacks a 0 / 7.5 IRE setup circuit.

Has that been conclusively proven? IOW, might there be one hiding under the cover where an expert technician might find and maybe tweak or switch it mechanically, or using soldering/unsoldering skills?
post #24485 of 25446
@mrmazda - I think it it were just a matter of a hardware tweak or minor firmware change Funai would not have let this issue go on for so very very long.

That said, if someone ever found a hack, no matter how dangerous, I'd risk it. I borders on a deal breaker for me on these units, and is the only reason I've never bought a second one since my 3576 (or recommended these to family). It's a fairly amateur mistake.
post #24486 of 25446
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Originally Posted by DoctorM View Post

@mrmazda - I think it it were just a matter of a hardware tweak or minor firmware change Funai would not have let this issue go on for so very very long.

IMO, those who design and test these are not doing the testing in the USA where they would have to be to actually evaluate real world performance WRT the 0/7.5 IRE issue, or to duplicate and then eradicate the QAM mistuning many encounter. It reminds me how bus riding bureaucrats in DC dictate what speed limits in Montana, Nevada and Texas should be, from no position to have a clue about implications or effects of their edicts.
post #24487 of 25446
The Problem: Via my Comcast service, known clear HD QAM channels are un-tunable on my 3576.
Some channels, largely Spanish, WGN and ION can be tuned, but except for Fox, all the other major networks aren't visible (but are tunable on my Magnavox HDTV). The HDTV even shows channel and program info so there is even some PSIP data.

Hypothesis: I've tested just about every method I can think of to make these channels show up.

What do you all think of the idea that since these channels are located at a high sub-channel (mostly over 400), that Comcast has packed at least 99 other scrambled/blank stations on the same channel?

Since these units remap subchannels from .1 to .99 and don't discard scrambled stations (or non-existant subchannels with a carrier), 99 garbage sub-channels would leave no room for what follows.

Anyway, that's what I'm starting to suspect.

When you use Channel +/- these units know to skip scrambled and blank channels, so why doesn't it do that when remapping during a channel scan?
In theory a firmware update could easily fix this issue.

Thoughts?
post #24488 of 25446
Thread Starter 

I've found that the tuners/FW have been enhanced as new gens were introduced. My old 3575's would leave scrambled channels while my newer models would "get smarter" as more scans were done... a new unit might leave some scrambled channels in CH+/- and even miss a channel or two, then a re-scan found the missing channels and eliminated the scrambled/blank ones... even eliminating xx.1, xx.2 and going direct to xx.3, etc. More than once, it took 3 scans to get everything just right in my screwy cableco's hide-the-channel game-play.

post #24489 of 25446
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Originally Posted by Crally View Post

Thanks all for the replies.  Yes, the adapter I have works well with the HDS721050CLA362  500GB drive (Table A-2).  I have the CoolGear SATAIDE-2as adapter (http://www.cooldrives.com/sahadradtoid.html) that was linked in the "Hardware Replacement & Upgrade" chapter.  This is the first WD SATA drive I have tried.  I thought I had tried all jumper settings, but I will try 5-6 and see what happens.  I'll let you know in a bit.

Thanks again.


Just tried the 5-6 jumper and still no go.  Perhaps I should try a new adapter that can handle SATA III, if the 2160 can handle it?  I wasn't paying enough attention when I bought the drive as it was on sale at a good price.  Worse comes to worse, I can always put it in a pc.

The MAG 2160 seems to be pretty picky about SATA 3 drives and probably won't take a SATA 6 (which you have tried). I have two Western Digital SATA 3 models used in a few of my MAG 2160s and my PHIL 3576s. The PHIL 3576 handles the WD5000AVDS with no problems. The MAG 2160 will work with the WD5000AVCS model, but I couldn't get it to work with the WD5000AVDS I tried to put in it this week. No jumpers are necessary on the drives. Just need to be sure the jumper on the SATA-IDE adapter is removed.

I have another WD5000AVDS that I will try to put into another MAG 2160 once I get the old 160GB drive cleared off (this is the last one I haven't converted to either PATA 500GB or SATA 3 500GB). If I still can't get it to work, I'll put the WD5000AVDS into one of my PHILs that has a PATA 500GB drive and put the PATA into the MAG 2160 which is what I did with the one I tried earlier this week.

The only difference between the WD5000AVDS and WD5000AVCS is the buffer (32MB for the D and 16MB for the C).

You can still find some PATA 500GB drives, but will pay more. I just checked on the Western Digital WD5000AAKB which is what I used to upgrade at first several years ago. You can find them for as low as $95, although most places are over $100.
post #24490 of 25446
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Originally Posted by DoctorM View Post

The Problem: Via my Comcast service, known clear HD QAM channels are un-tunable on my 3576.
Some channels, largely Spanish, WGN and ION can be tuned, but except for Fox, all the other major networks aren't visible (but are tunable on my Magnavox HDTV). The HDTV even shows channel and program info so there is even some PSIP data.

Hypothesis: I've tested just about every method I can think of to make these channels show up.

What do you all think of the idea that since these channels are located at a high sub-channel (mostly over 400), that Comcast has packed at least 99 other scrambled/blank stations on the same channel?

Since these units remap subchannels from .1 to .99 and don't discard scrambled stations (or non-existant subchannels with a carrier), 99 garbage sub-channels would leave no room for what follows.

Anyway, that's what I'm starting to suspect.

When you use Channel +/- these units know to skip scrambled and blank channels, so why doesn't it do that when remapping during a channel scan?
In theory a firmware update could easily fix this issue.

Thoughts?

1. There is no way to get 99 sub-channels on 1 physical channel. 12 SD is about the limit, 3 HD is really pushing it.
2. The sub-channels don't have to be .1, .2, .3 etc. they can start anywhere
3. My Time Warner Cable has sub-channels with 4 digitsThat show up on my Vizio tv
post #24491 of 25446
I just tried a SATA 6 500GB (with 32MB cache) in a Phillips 3576. It took it with no problem and I didn't have to jumper pins 5 and 6 on the drive to bring it down to SATA 3. Even set a 3 minute timed recording which ran without a hitch. This drive is a Western Digital WD5000AUDX drive, part of the AV-GP line.

I've got a recording set for the MAG 2160 with the 160GB starting in a little while (one of the PBS series I'm recording that will end on 10/13). I'll try both the WD5000AUDX and a different WD5000AVDS in it tomorrow if I have time.

EDIT:

Decided to try the above drives in the MAG 2160 this morning before I got to doing other things. Okay, did I fall thru the looking glass last night? Since I didn't mention it, I am using the same SATA-IDE adapter from Cooldrives as Crally, making sure to pull its jumper.

First, I tried the SATA 6 drive. The Maggie took it no problem. Didn't use any jumpers on the drive. Shut down and pulled the SATA 6.

Next, I hooked up the SATA 3 drive model that didn't work in the other Maggie earlier this week. This Maggie took it no problem. Again, no jumpers.

Both Maggies were built in the same month (May 2008), both have identical firmware. I may have to pull the Maggie that didn't like the SATA 3 from the bottom of the stack later and try again. Doesn't make sense that two machines with the same build would act differently. I had even pulled and re-set both ends of the strip cable to make sure I hadn't slightly pulled it out of whack when connecting everything.

Crally, looks like you may have a tempermental recorder like I do. Try the WD5000AVDS or WD5000AVCS. If it doesn't work, return it. Or, you could pay more and get one of the 500GB PATA drives.
Edited by mreedelp - 10/5/13 at 5:00am
post #24492 of 25446
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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post


1. There is no way to get 99 sub-channels on 1 physical channel. 12 SD is about the limit, 3 HD is really pushing it.
2. The sub-channels don't have to be .1, .2, .3 etc. they can start anywhere
3. My Time Warner Cable has sub-channels with 4 digitsThat show up on my Vizio tv

 

1. I have 75 music subchannels with 480p album art. I do think 99 is all the Mag can display.

2. Problems have been reported when two physical channels "share", via PSIP, subchannels.

3. My Sony TV & DVR also show four digit subchannels. It's a local issue thing. My NBC HD on my old headend was four then went to one digit.

 

Yes, 3 HD would really be pushing it.

post #24493 of 25446
Re: Magnavox 513 and proper setting of TV Aspect Ratio.

I've connected the Mag 513 to a different TV and am having trouble getting the aspect ratio properly set. The TV's aspect is set to "Set by Program" because I have a simple system that gets basic cable, but some local channels come in HD. In other words, some channels need the 4:3 setting and others need the 16:9 setting.

In the Magnavox 513's Setup > Video, Progressive Scan is OFF. The TV Aspect offers:

4:3 Letter Box
4:3 Pan & Scan
16:9 Wide

All of these options result in the screen being distorted too wide horizontally. Am I doing something wrong or am I stuck with a distorted screen?
post #24494 of 25446
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Originally Posted by IndyGirl View Post

Re: Magnavox 513 and proper setting of TV Aspect Ratio.

I've connected the Mag 513 to a different TV and am having trouble getting the aspect ratio properly set. The TV's aspect is set to "Set by Program" because I have a simple system that gets basic cable, but some local channels come in HD. In other words, some channels need the 4:3 setting and others need the 16:9 setting.

In the Magnavox 513's Setup > Video, Progressive Scan is OFF. The TV Aspect offers:

4:3 Letter Box
4:3 Pan & Scan
16:9 Wide

All of these options result in the screen being distorted too wide horizontally. Am I doing something wrong or am I stuck with a distorted screen?

 

I've found that reality is best. If your TV is 16:9 then set the Mag to 16:9. Those analog 4:3 channels may be stretched. A digital channel showing older 4:3 content should be shown with barndoors. A 480i /1080i digital channel may show as letterbox. Even locals will show 4:3 or 16:9 depending on content. There is no universal answer.

post #24495 of 25446
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Originally Posted by IndyGirl View Post

Re: Magnavox 513 and proper setting of TV Aspect Ratio.

I've connected the Mag 513 to a different TV and am having trouble getting the aspect ratio properly set. The TV's aspect is set to "Set by Program" because I have a simple system that gets basic cable, but some local channels come in HD. In other words, some channels need the 4:3 setting and others need the 16:9 setting.

In the Magnavox 513's Setup > Video, Progressive Scan is OFF. The TV Aspect offers:

4:3 Letter Box
4:3 Pan & Scan
16:9 Wide

All of these options result in the screen being distorted too wide horizontally. Am I doing something wrong or am I stuck with a distorted screen?
Try changing the Maggie's HDMI mode to 480. Use the HDMI button on the Maggie remote to cycle through the available settings.
post #24496 of 25446
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by IndyGirl View Post

Re: Magnavox 513 and proper setting of TV Aspect Ratio.

I've connected the Mag 513 to a different TV and am having trouble getting the aspect ratio properly set. The TV's aspect is set to "Set by Program" because I have a simple system that gets basic cable, but some local channels come in HD. In other words, some channels need the 4:3 setting and others need the 16:9 setting.

 

Along with the other suggestions, try setting the Mag to "16:9 Wide" and the TV to something other than an "auto-set" option... it may be seeing the 4:3 frame the DVD Std requires and messing with the TV's ability to tell how the pixels in that frame should be displayed..

 

With both Mag and TV set for 16:9/Wide, you should get beautiful WS images from digital/HD channels, with a slight stretch in analog 4:3 programs?


Edited by wajo - 10/5/13 at 12:24pm
post #24497 of 25446
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

1. I have 75 music subchannels with 480p album art. I do think 99 is all the Mag can display.
2. Problems have been reported when two physical channels "share", via PSIP, subchannels.
3. My Sony TV & DVR also show four digit subchannels. It's a local issue thing. My NBC HD on my old headend was four then went to one digit.

Yes, 3 HD would really be pushing it.

I didn't mention music mainly because I never listen to cable music. Album art is static and takes very little bandwidth, audio also takes little; so they can cram a lot those channels into 1. I have heard TWC usually does around 40 and doesn't mix them with the video channels. Weather channels that primarily show radar maps also require low bandwidth. HD supposibly takes 4 times the bandwidth of a SD channel.

Of course "your mileage may vary" with the local cable provider.
post #24498 of 25446
So then there is no reason a Cableco couldn't theoretically send 99 channels of carrier-only with no signal just to mess up devices.
post #24499 of 25446
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Originally Posted by DoctorM View Post

So then there is no reason a Cableco couldn't theoretically send 99 channels of carrier-only with no signal just to mess up devices.

 

They could but it would be a waste. It would be simpler to send a few dozen subchannels with high numbers. Call me old, but give me a frequency to work with. My STB 502 and clear QAM 122.1901 CBS HD have the same frequency and bit rate. I have no PSIP data. My channel 2 is CBS SD at a 480i bit rate. I dropped 102 since it was just a mirror of 2.

 

If I select analog 50 I get a second of static then a display of "no signal". If I select QAM 50.1 I get a "cannot decode" message. Some of my "cannot decode" channels could be ones I don't pay for, like HBO.

post #24500 of 25446
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

They could but it would be a waste. It would be simpler to send a few dozen subchannels with high numbers. Call me old, but give me a frequency to work with. My STB 502 and clear QAM 122.1901 CBS HD have the same frequency and bit rate. I have no PSIP data. My channel 2 is CBS SD at a 480i bit rate. I dropped 102 since it was just a mirror of 2.

If I select analog 50 I get a second of static then a display of "no signal". If I select QAM 50.1 I get a "cannot decode" message. Some of my "cannot decode" channels could be ones I don't pay for, like HBO.

I have Time Warner cable. Channels under 100 are analog. Over 100 are digital and all except the locals are scrambled. With a cable box tunning channel 3 will automatically show digital 105 (the digital version). With the latest firmware update it automatically shows 1105 the HD version. Cable guys seem to be able to do most anything if they choose it. My 3576 was changed to OTA several years ago. Trying to work with cable was just too much trouble.
post #24501 of 25446
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Originally Posted by IndyGirl View Post

Re: Magnavox 513 and proper setting of TV Aspect Ratio.

I've connected the Mag 513 to a different TV and am having trouble getting the aspect ratio properly set. The TV's aspect is set to "Set by Program" because I have a simple system that gets basic cable, but some local channels come in HD. In other words, some channels need the 4:3 setting and others need the 16:9 setting.

In the Magnavox 513's Setup > Video, Progressive Scan is OFF. The TV Aspect offers:

4:3 Letter Box
4:3 Pan & Scan
16:9 Wide

All of these options result in the screen being distorted too wide horizontally. Am I doing something wrong or am I stuck with a distorted screen?

Thanks for everyone's input. Personally, it gives me a headache to watch a distorted screen so I knew that was not an option. I tried changing the HDMI settings, but nothing happened and maybe because the system is not using an HDMI cable. Anyway, somehow I have stumbled upon a combination that works for me. The TV's aspect is set to "Zoom" which proportionately stretches the analog channels and the Mag aspect is set at 4:3. To my surprise when I access one of the HD channels, it defers to "Set by Program" and thereby displays properly. I don't understand it, but I'm happy! biggrin.gif
post #24502 of 25446
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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post

I have Time Warner cable. Channels under 100 are analog. Over 100 are digital and all except the locals are scrambled. With a cable box tunning channel 3 will automatically show digital 105 (the digital version). With the latest firmware update it automatically shows 1105 the HD version. Cable guys seem to be able to do most anything if they choose it. My 3576 was changed to OTA several years ago. Trying to work with cable was just too much trouble.

So the newer boxes/firmware handles QAM better than the 3576? I wonder if a firmware update would have fixed that.
Unfortunately Funai has shown no interest in providing even minimal support for any of the Philips branded units, even 'accidentally' letting a superfirmware work if flashed to one.
post #24503 of 25446
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Originally Posted by DoctorM View Post

So the newer boxes/firmware handles QAM better than the 3576? I wonder if a firmware update would have fixed that.
Unfortunately Funai has shown no interest in providing even minimal support for any of the Philips branded units, even 'accidentally' letting a superfirmware work if flashed to one.

The firmware update I was referring to was for cable company's DVR. Since everything but the locals (which can get via OTA) are scrambled, a Funai unit is of no use for anything but locals. With OTA the channel no.s match up perfectly. With cable I has to keep a spread sheet to keep up the "numbers",
post #24504 of 25446
I'm lucky that the room I use my Philips in has a window facing most OTA stations.

My primary TV, which I considered getting another unit for is in a bad location. A UHF antenna would be useless there and I don't know that I want to gamble on a newer unit for QAM.

I figure I'll probably try an iView there eventually... but I keep holding out hope for a full HD Funai. It doesn't even need to burn BDs.
At this point a USB port that you can transfer shows to a stick or external HDD would be of more use than a BD burner.
post #24505 of 25446
I'm really hoping someone can tell me WTF is going on here. One of those "Oh schitt" moments:

A few hours ago I had programs recording via the timer on my 2160A from 7PM to 11:06PM, and 1AM to 3AM, various channels on STB-less cable. I happened to look at the Mag at 12:36AM and the was no red light indicating any timers set! I looked at the "Timer" and it was blank, empty! eek.gif I then noticed on the timer area the date....."DEC 31 2009 5:44AM" !!!!!!! eek.gif WTF?? Not only is the date screwed up but the time is also off by both hours and minutes. It recorded the shows ok from 7PM-11:06PM, but sometime between 11:06PM, and 12:36AM when I looked, it "blew a gasket".

Auto clock set was on. I immediately corrected the date and time and turned off the Auto clock. I set the timers again for 1AM-2AM and 2AM-3AM. It started recording ok at 1AM and is still recording now.

So WTF happened? This has never happened before. It can't be PBS's time signal nor the cable co's time signal because the clocks were fine on other devices! It can't be DST because that would not have changed the month and year, nor the time by so much. Am I now going to have to constantly check the time and date every few hours on this Mag?
post #24506 of 25446
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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post

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Originally Posted by DoctorM View Post

So the newer boxes/firmware handles QAM better than the 3576? I wonder if a firmware update would have fixed that.
Unfortunately Funai has shown no interest in providing even minimal support for any of the Philips branded units, even 'accidentally' letting a superfirmware work if flashed to one.

The firmware update I was referring to was for cable company's DVR. Since everything but the locals (which can get via OTA) are scrambled, a Funai unit is of no use for anything but locals. With OTA the channel no.s match up perfectly. With cable I has to keep a spread sheet to keep up the "numbers",
It's a combo of both cable and the Mag's inability to map channel #'s like all other devices. If cable would not insist on changing #'s so often this wouldn't be a problem in the first place. But the way the Mag's (at least the 2160A) handles channel #'s is why we'll always need "spreadsheets".

In earlier posts, I mentioned how I couldn't get the DTV or HDTV locals and major affiliates on basic cable. In my area (Cox) most of these #'s are in the 700's (NBC, ABC, FOX and CBS are 703, 705, 706 and 707 on all HDTV's). After lots of scanning, I finally found them on the Mag anywhere from 77.x to 117.x . Ok, so I remembered them. A while back I had recordings set for NBC and FOX and the next day when I looked at them, the "recordings" were nothing but a totally blank screen! I checked the channels on the Mag's tuner and they were indeed blank, gone! But I also checked these channels on TV's that don't use an STB and they were also gone! I did a "last 24hrs" search for this issue and found nothing. It was until I stumbled upon some local station's website that I saw: "Cox changes channel line ups". Evidently this "change" took place some time during the day! Not a frickin' word from Cox at their website nor even at their Twitter or FB pages. Not even the decency of a letter, phone call, email, as they've done in the past, nothing.

So all TV's and the Mag had to do a DTV channel scan again and they all found the channels. But what is messed up about this is the TV's are still picking up the stations on the exact same channels (good), but the #'s on the Mag changed! So now I have to memorize all the frickin' DTV channels again. So if it's the same channels on the TV's, then why did scan have to be done on them again?? One can only surmise from this, that (as it was already known) the way the Mag's handle DTV #'s is really odd, and the way other devices handle them is much more preferable since you don't have to memorize #'s again (and, Cox are jerks for these constant changes and keeping them secret). Obviously Cox is using some kind of "virtual channel #'s" that work on TV's, and when "remapping" is done this keeps the "virtual" #'s the same. But this doesn't work on the Mag's.
post #24507 of 25446
Clint--about your 2160's loss of memory: We have two 3575s, and both have experienced random (that is, not during power outages or storms) reversions to set-me-up status several times. I doubt that the auto-clock setting has anything to do with this, since ours are always set to manual. (No reliable time signal in our area.) When this happens, all the timer settings are lost, along with the channels, date/time, and other stuff. I have no idea why this should happen, but it does.
post #24508 of 25446
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Originally Posted by Rletson View Post

Clint--about your 2160's loss of memory: We have two 3575s, and both have experienced random (that is, not during power outages or storms) reversions to set-me-up status several times. I doubt that the auto-clock setting has anything to do with this, since ours are always set to manual. (No reliable time signal in our area.) When this happens, all the timer settings are lost, along with the channels, date/time, and other stuff. I have no idea why this should happen, but it does.
Read again; it didn't lose memory, the clock was all that got hosed. All the settings, channels, etc., was as it was before.

Has no one ever heard of this?

What you describe sounds very serious. Are both using the same firmware versions?
post #24509 of 25446
Am I the only person that's seen this problem?
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Originally Posted by Clint S. View Post

I'm really hoping someone can tell me WTF is going on here. One of those "Oh schitt" moments:

A few hours ago I had programs recording via the timer on my 2160A from 7PM to 11:06PM, and 1AM to 3AM, various channels on STB-less cable. I happened to look at the Mag at 12:36AM and the was no red light indicating any timers set! I looked at the "Timer" and it was blank, empty! eek.gif I then noticed on the timer area the date....."DEC 31 2009 5:44AM" !!!!!!! eek.gif WTF?? Not only is the date screwed up but the time is also off by both hours and minutes. It recorded the shows ok from 7PM-11:06PM, but sometime between 11:06PM, and 12:36AM when I looked, it "blew a gasket".

Auto clock set was on. I immediately corrected the date and time and turned off the Auto clock. I set the timers again for 1AM-2AM and 2AM-3AM. It started recording ok at 1AM and is still recording now.

So WTF happened? This has never happened before. It can't be PBS's time signal nor the cable co's time signal because the clocks were fine on other devices! It can't be DST because that would not have changed the month and year, nor the time by so much. Am I now going to have to constantly check the time and date every few hours on this Mag?
post #24510 of 25446
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Originally Posted by Clint S. View Post

Am I the only person that's seen this problem?

It's hard to answer. Perhaps others couldn't duplicate the problem and never posted the observation. I have two bad clock stations. One is bad (for the Mag) at midnight Mon-Fri. One is bad (for the Mag) on Sat-Sun. My one TV checks at midnight and doesn't detect the clock signal. I must keep my clock set at off or time gets screwed at midnight. I never record at midnight. These are both analog cable channels which I lose next month anyhow. None of my digital stations come with a PSIP.

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