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post #24781 of 25409
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Originally Posted by greg28 View Post

What about the conversion transfer from the HDD to DVD? Should I expect any loss in quality in that conversion process?
As long as you are transferring the original bits and not doing any recoding to change the size or the codec, the transfer is lossless.
post #24782 of 25409
Thread Starter 

:D

 

Right now, you can get from Walmart:

 

10 ea. 535's

 

10 ea. 537's

 

6,140 ea. 533's... better hurry!

 

:D 


Edited by wajo - 12/9/13 at 7:19pm
post #24783 of 25409
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

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Right now, you can get from Walmart:

10 ea. 535's

10 ea. 537's

6,140 ea. 533's... better hurry!

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Are they being discontinued?
post #24784 of 25409
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by glangford View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wajo View Post

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Right now, you can get from Walmart:

10 ea. 535's

10 ea. 537's

6,140 ea. 533's... better hurry!

biggrin.gif  

Are they being discontinued?

 

Dunno. It was supposed to be funny... peculiar.

post #24785 of 25409
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

Dunno. It was supposed to be funny... peculiar.

Oh, I'm slow at 4 am! On another note, I finally got my replacement 533 last weekend. Great customer service Magnavox. All seems well for a refurb. No scratches, dents or the like.
post #24786 of 25409
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Originally Posted by Kansas_Tom View Post

Newegg is down a little on the refurbished 537's. $222.99 with free shipping.
LINK
Price is up to $235.00
post #24787 of 25409
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Originally Posted by mickinct View Post

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Originally Posted by Kansas_Tom View Post

Newegg is down a little on the refurbished 537's. $222.99 with free shipping.
LINK
Price is up to $235.00

Notice this in the listing:

"In stock. Limit 99995 per customer."
post #24788 of 25409
In my ignorance, I've apparently started a new thread. I'm reposting here, where I meant it to go in the first place.

Got a refurb 537 from Newegg yesterday and at first it seemed to work fine. Did a test recording to the hard drive. The picture looked a little washed out compared to my 515, but okay. When I turned it on a little later in the day, it couldn't find the hard drive. E48 error, cannot write to this drive.

I tried every skipxxx in the help files, nothing helped. Pretty much "HD not found" was the result. I decided to unplug it and do a soft reset in the morning.

After the soft reset, it worked again...until the next power-up. Then it was E48 again.

So I RMA'd it back to Newegg.

I've had a number of these recorders (3576, several 2160A's a couple of 515's and a 513 I bought during "the panic") and I've never had a probIem. I upgraded all the 2160A's to 500GB and the help files here made that very easy.

I could never upgrade the HD in the 3576 successfully though. Tried several 500GB HD's and within a week or two the recorder would lock-up when powered up. Unplugging would cure it, but it was just too annoying so I put the 160 drive back in.
post #24789 of 25409
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post


As long as you are transferring the original bits and not doing any recoding to change the size or the codec, the transfer is lossless.

 

I recorded from VHS to HDD, made my edits, and burned to the DVD. 

 

It looks very nice when I play it in my stand alone DVD player and watch it on TV. 

 

It also looks nice when I play it on my desktop computer using VLC Media Player.

 

But on my laptop, it looks pretty bad, regardless of what program I play it back on, including VLC. Like it's a generation or two worse.

 

Does that make any sense at all? I want to use the laptop to backup the DVD copies (and upload to Youtube) because it's light years faster than my desktop. But I don't feel like I'm seeing the true quality, so I hate to do anything further with it on the laptop.

post #24790 of 25409
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Originally Posted by greg28 View Post

I recorded from VHS to HDD, made my edits, and burned to the DVD. 

It looks very nice when I play it in my stand alone DVD player and watch it on TV. 

It also looks nice when I play it on my desktop computer using VLC Media Player.

But on my laptop, it looks pretty bad, regardless of what program I play it back on, including VLC. Like it's a generation or two worse.

Does that make any sense at all? I want to use the laptop to backup the DVD copies (and upload to Youtube) because it's light years faster than my desktop. But I don't feel like I'm seeing the true quality, so I hate to do anything further with it on the laptop.

This could be an interlaced related issue. If your TV is an old square screen you wouldn't see the interlacing. If your system has a good deinterlace quality loss would be minimal.
On a PC however if either no deinterlacing is taking place or a poor quality deinterlacer is being used, it can look quite awful.

If the source VHS was mastered from a progressive source, I dub the tape in HQ mode, burn to DVD-RW, rip to a PC and clean up from there. By clean up I mean cut commercials, convert closed captions to a DVD sub format, inverse telecine/deinterlace, and whatever other improvements I find I can make.

What are you using to watch your DVD on your laptop?
post #24791 of 25409
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Originally Posted by DoctorM View Post


This could be an interlaced related issue. If your TV is an old square screen you wouldn't see the interlacing. If your system has a good deinterlace quality loss would be minimal.
On a PC however if either no deinterlacing is taking place or a poor quality deinterlacer is being used, it can look quite awful.

If the source VHS was mastered from a progressive source, I dub the tape in HQ mode, burn to DVD-RW, rip to a PC and clean up from there. By clean up I mean cut commercials, convert closed captions to a DVD sub format, inverse telecine/deinterlace, and whatever other improvements I find I can make.

What are you using to watch your DVD on your laptop?

 

My TV is an old tube television, approx. 13 years old.

 

I used both Windows Media Player and VLC Media Player to watch the DVD on my laptop. 

 

Provided this is simply a playback issue, because the DVD obviously "is what it is", I'm otherwise happy with it.

 

I'll start to do some research for possible existing topics on my next questions, but I'd love some advice while I'm on the subject.

 

What's the recommended way to rip to a PC for archival storage? I obviously don't want any data loss but are there different options that result in different file type sizes?

post #24792 of 25409
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by greg28 View Post

 

I'll start to do some research for possible existing topics on my next questions, but I'd love some advice while I'm on the subject.

 

What's the recommended way to rip to a PC for archival storage? I obviously don't want any data loss but are there different options that result in different file type sizes?

 

Most of what we know about files, etc. is described in this help file. It might be a good starting point.

post #24793 of 25409
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Originally Posted by greg28 View Post

What's the recommended way to rip to a PC for archival storage? I obviously don't want any data loss but are there different options that result in different file type sizes?
The absolute simplest way to rip a home-made DVD to PC for archival storage is to use ImgBurn and rip it as a DVD.iso file. VLC and most PC media players will play a DVD.iso perfectly with full DVD menu support as if you were playing the original disk in a DVD player. On top of that, DVD.iso is an image format so you can use ImgBurn any time you want to burn that DVD.iso back to a DVD-R for whatever reason. And of course, since DVD.iso is an image format there is absolutely no loss of video quality -- it is a bit-image copy of the original disk.

I have over 600 TV show DVD's stored on my servers for whole-house streaming and every one is stored as DVD.iso.
post #24794 of 25409
wajo,

I have a question regarding the audio circuits in two Magnavox players; a MBR5120F Blu-Ray player and a MDR537H/F7.

Audio system: NAD 1155 Preamp, B&K ST140 Power amp, Thiel CS2 speakers

CD's sound much better through the MDR537 than the Blu-Ray player. This is through the audio out to the preamp.

When CD technology initially came out, Magnavox was known for good sounding players at a good price.

Do you know anything about the circuits in either unit?

Thank you and Happy Holidays!
post #24795 of 25409
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Originally Posted by tomintn View Post

wajo,

I have a question regarding the audio circuits in two Magnavox players; a MBR5120F Blu-Ray player and a MDR537H/F7.

Audio system: NAD 1155 Preamp, B&K ST140 Power amp, Thiel CS2 speakers

CD's sound much better through the MDR537 than the Blu-Ray player. This is through the audio out to the preamp.

When CD technology initially came out, Magnavox was known for good sounding players at a good price.

Do you know anything about the circuits in either unit?

Thank you and Happy Holidays!

While he's looking, are both using HDMI?

post #24796 of 25409

gmail.com has a much larger limit. I sent 20mb yesterday. It needs to be renamed if it's an exe. You might check it out.

post #24797 of 25409
Joe,

Both are connected via HDMI to TV. In addition, I use the equipment analog audio outputs to the preamp. I use the TV headphone output to the preamp for TV audio, but the quality is not near as good.

I have considered using the TV Optical output to a digital to analog converter (FIIOS or Monoprice), but have not acted. What I have is working!


Happly Holidays Joe!
Edited by tomintn - 12/13/13 at 8:38pm
post #24798 of 25409
Thread Starter 

In case you're wondering, I deleted my posts on that "thing" I mentioned... pissed too many people off already... working on it still... patience please.

post #24799 of 25409
Wajo,

We badly need some of our wish list entries granted by Magnavox. smile.gif

My 2160A has been reduced to recording either random access OTA or single channel through a DTA. mad.gif My cable service in the Detroit area, Comcast, has encoded ALL cable stations even the locals.

It sure looks like the cable companies intend to prevent any recorders, other than what they lease, from working.

Robert
post #24800 of 25409
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Originally Posted by robert_g View Post

Wajo,

We badly need some of our wish list entries granted by Magnavox. smile.gif

My 2160A has been reduced to recording either random access OTA or single channel through a DTA. mad.gif My cable service in the Detroit area, Comcast, has encoded ALL cable stations even the locals.

It sure looks like the cable companies intend to prevent any recorders, other than what they lease, from working.

Robert


99% so far is Comcast.
 You mean fee-free recorders.

post #24801 of 25409
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by robert_g View Post

Wajo,

We badly need some of our wish list entries granted by Magnavox. smile.gif

My 2160A has been reduced to recording either random access OTA or single channel through a DTA. mad.gif My cable service in the Detroit area, Comcast, has encoded ALL cable stations even the locals.

It sure looks like the cable companies intend to prevent any recorders, other than what they lease, from working.

Robert

 

Robert,

 

I agree completely, but I've beat that dead horse so much, I'm being brought up on charges of animé cruelty in Japan!

 

I'm still tuning and recording about 90 channels in my analog cable feed, more than 30 digital/HD. For the first time, one of the cableco CSRs mentioned they're going all-digital... someday.

 

I was happy to hear the far-away tone in his voice when he said "someday"!

 

Of course, There's always hope that my cableco, if it doesn't get bought by Comcast, won't be as draconian (greedy) as Comcast and leave me the networks to record from... that's all I record from anyway!!!

 

And I happen to be between two large cities so I can always fall back on OTA with a LOGSAP antenna... Laser-Optic-Guided Super-Amplified Prismatoid... due out in 2017 :D 


Edited by wajo - 12/12/13 at 3:56pm
post #24802 of 25409
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Originally Posted by greg28 View Post

My TV is an old tube television, approx. 13 years old.

I used both Windows Media Player and VLC Media Player to watch the DVD on my laptop. 

Provided this is simply a playback issue, because the DVD obviously "is what it is", I'm otherwise happy with it.

I'll start to do some research for possible existing topics on my next questions, but I'd love some advice while I'm on the subject.

What's the recommended way to rip to a PC for archival storage? I obviously don't want any data loss but are there different options that result in different file type sizes?
I suppose it's possible your PC and laptop have different playback settings. In VLC, under the Video menu, make sure you turn on Deinterlacing. Various types are available under Deinterlacing Mode. Some have better quality some provide quite a CPU hit. Play around, you might be able to improve things.
post #24803 of 25409
Thread Starter 

:D

 

Anyone who needs the 533/535 Service Manual, send me a PM.

 

(I do not need your email address.)

 

:D 


Edited by wajo - 12/13/13 at 11:24am
post #24804 of 25409
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Originally Posted by DoctorM View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by greg28 View Post

My TV is an old tube television, approx. 13 years old.

I used both Windows Media Player and VLC Media Player to watch the DVD on my laptop. 

Provided this is simply a playback issue, because the DVD obviously "is what it is", I'm otherwise happy with it.

I'll start to do some research for possible existing topics on my next questions, but I'd love some advice while I'm on the subject.

What's the recommended way to rip to a PC for archival storage? I obviously don't want any data loss but are there different options that result in different file type sizes?
I suppose it's possible your PC and laptop have different playback settings. In VLC, under the Video menu, make sure you turn on Deinterlacing. Various types are available under Deinterlacing Mode. Some have better quality some provide quite a CPU hit. Play around, you might be able to improve things.


+1, if those deinterlacing settings are set wrong the picture will look terrible, and interlace lines will be very visible.

post #24805 of 25409
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

Notice this in the listing:

"In stock. Limit 99995 per customer."
NEWEGG SOLD OUT ended by the seller because the item is no longer available.
Details about Magnavox DVD Recorder With 1TB Hard Drive - MDR537H
See original listing
Magnavox-DVD-Recorder-With-1TB-Hard-Drive-MDR537H
Item Sold
Item condition:
Manufacturer refurbished
Ended:
Dec 12, 2013 18:06:47 PST
Price:
US $234.99
[
25 sold
]
Shipping:
FREE Standard Shipping
Item location:
Memphis, Tennessee, United Stat
Edited by mickinct - 12/13/13 at 3:24am
post #24806 of 25409
New Magnavox MDR535H: Playback Hiccups and Bad Closed Captioning (CC)

I have had a new Magnavox MDR535H for two weeks now, and I can't find a way to fix two serious glitches. I searched this thread and now appeal for advice, please.

1. Playback hiccups: When I playback a recording on the HDD, the sound or picture--or both--make a hiccup quite often. It's usually brief, but always annoying (especially if it's Pavarotti singing). I have no playback hiccups when I play a commercial (movie) DVD.
NOTE #1: If I rewind briefly and replay the hiccup spot, it's usually not there at that spot!
NOTE #2: The very first recording I did (Pavarotti) does not have any hiccups. That recording was before I made any of the changes to the default settings recommended by Wajo (including TV aspect to 16:9 and make recording compatible--ON). On two other days, I recorded the same program (PBS!), and both those have many hiccups, as do all other recordings on all other channels.

2. Closed captioning (CC): The captions on both recorded playback and on live viewing on the DVDR are awful. The recordings are missing more than a third of the words altogether. The "words" I do get are out of order or have letters that are often garbled.
NOTE: When I switch over to the TV and continue to watch the same program at the same time, the CC is perfect.

I saw where Wajo says, "The whole CC area is a ball of poisonous snakes!" Nevertheless we really need reliable CC.

My Setup:

*** I use OTA antenna ONLY. (No cable, satellite, WiFi, etc.)

*** Connections: The TV receives its OTA signal through the DVDR. The DVDR is connected to the TV by an HDMI cable. (I checked the connections.)

*** My TV is a Panasonic TH-42PZ700U, purchased December 2007. 1080p.

*** The TV has only two HDMI connections. One goes to the DVDR; the other HDMI goes to an old Roku that I use to stream Amazon Instant Video movies and TV (the free ones).
Edited by DawnSun - 12/14/13 at 4:59pm
post #24807 of 25409
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Originally Posted by plplplpl View Post


One such program for quick and lossless generation of an MPEG-2 file from a DVD is good ol' VOB2MPG. Still serves me well.smile.gif

However, I recommend an older version, like 2.5 (what I use), because as with so many young developers of good, initially free programs, it seems once they start to hit middle age they sell out and either cripple the free version and/or load the installers with crapware like OpenCandy, etc.

 

I used ImgBurn to make an ISO file. I downloaded version 2.5 of the VOB2MPG and had it convert the files to MPG out of the VIDEO_TS folder from the ImgBurn rip.

 

However, the resulting MPG file only contains the first title of the DVD. There were two titles on the DVD and if I play the VOB file with VLC Media player, both titles are in it. 

 

The VIDEO_TS folder contains two BUP, IFO, and VOB files in it. One of the VOB files is large in size (KB) and everything else is very small. 

 

What do I have to do to get both titles within the MPG file? Do I need to do something different elsewhere in the chain of processes?

 

I recorded from VHS to HDD and then burned a DVD from there. When I play the DVD (or the VOB for that matter), I see the "menu" screen showing the two titles contained on the DVD. 

 

This is the last step of my first conversion so I'm excited. I'll be able to convert all my VHS to DVD, the PC, and put them on Youtube as I please. I've been wanting to do this for years and you're all so very helpful!

post #24808 of 25409
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Originally Posted by DawnSun View Post

New Magnavox MDR535H: Playback Hiccups and Bad Closed Captioning (CC)

I have had a new Magnavox MDR535H for two weeks now, and I can't find a way to fix two serious glitches. I searched this thread and now appeal for advice, please.

1. Playback hiccups: When I playback a recording on the HDD, the sound or picture--or both--make a hiccup quite often. It's usually brief, but always annoying (especially if it's Pavarotti singing). I have no playback hiccups when I play a commercial (movie) DVD.
NOTE #1: If I rewind briefly and replay the hiccup spot, it's usually not there at that spot!
NOTE #2: The very first recording I did (Pavarotti) does not have any hiccups. That recording was before I made any of the changes to the default settings recommended by Wajo (including TV aspect to 16:9 and make recording compatible--ON). On two other days, I recorded the same program (PBS!), and both those have many hiccups, as do all other recordings on all other channels.

2. Closed captioning (CC): The captions on both recorded playback and on live viewing on the DVDR are awful. The recordings are missing more than a third of the words altogether. The "words" I do get are out of order or have letters that are often garbled.
NOTE: When I switch over to the TV and continue to watch the same program at the same time, the CC is perfect.

I saw where Wajo says, "The whole CC area is a ball of poisonous snakes!" Nevertheless we really need reliable CC.

My Setup:

*** I use OTA antenna ONLY. (No cable, satellite, WiFi, etc.)

*** Connections: The TV receives its OTA signal through the DVDR. The DVDR is connected to the TV by an HDMI cable. (I checked the connections.)

*** My TV is a Panasonic TH-42PZ700U, purchased December 2007. 1080p.

*** The TV has only two HDMI connections. One goes to the DVDR; the other HDMI goes to an old Roku that I use to stream Amazon Instant Video movies and TV (the free ones).

 

I have the same unit (also for about 2 weeks) and the same hiccup problem. I only did one 5 minute test conversion from VHS to HDD to DVD. It did not impact the DVD I made. I have no plans to watch anything on the HDD so it's not a huge deal for me but I'm mentioning it in case it is helpful to know this isn't an isolated incident.

 

Oh, and I don't think I changed any default settings.

post #24809 of 25409
I noticed mine doing the same exact thing, rewind and no hiccup. I've had my 535 for almost 2 weeks now. I first noticed hiccups today. I have it set up for OTA and I use S-video from a Directv DVR and HDMI out to the TV. I haven't noticed any issues with the DVDs that I have made so far. I haven't had any issues yet with OTA recordings yet either.
post #24810 of 25409
Hi,

I'm confused. If you've seen no hiccups (brief pauses) on the DVD recordings you made (I've not made any of those) or on your HDD recordings, where did you see them?

--DS
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