Magnavox 537, 535, 533, 515, 513, 2160A, 2160, 2080 & Philips 3576, 3575 - Page 102

FYI:Clock (no time loss or gain)
Before formatting the drive in the H2160 the clock was set to manual it never lost or gained any time in 2 months..

FYI: Just got off the phone with FUNAI, they said they still produce the Magnavox H2160 also sister model Sylvania sold by Sears. I searched Sears and came up with nil. No luck on the SYLVANIA site either. Looks like a Sylvania HDRV200F combo with 160gb HDD. I'll try to find the manual on line

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HDRV200F only has analog tuner
No HDMI out
http://www.amazon.com/Sylvania-HDRV2.../dp/B000CC9ESU
Online Manual
http://www.sylvaniaconsumerelectroni...m/HDRV200F.pdf
From reading the manual it looks like this model was released just prior to HDMI becoming popular. MY guess 2005-2006
Looks OK it you don't need digital turner and need or want a VCR

Ooops!

The Maggie 160 is showing as Not In Stock at Wally World again.

Back in stock again

Did you notice the price increase on it?

Yea, but still cheaper than you can get a 3576

Not if your local Sam's still has them!

Yeah, I was going to say that, Bob. I was at a Sam's in Louisville, KY over Christmas break and they had a stack of at least a dozen 3576's for $249.98. I didn't buy one because a.) I don't have a Sam's membership and didn't want to pay for one just to buy one thing and one thing only b.) I prefer the Magnavox 2160's slightly different features. c.) I had no idea how difficult it was going to be to buy a Phil/Mag online initially.

I hadn't been in a Sam's for years, but I was pretty disappointed to find out that they no longer offer 1-day shopping passes for visitors. At least this one didn't.

sandrac i am having a similar problem with my 3575. if you have not had a chance yet to explore wajo's great thread on attenuation then you could possibly try a "band-aid" fix by manually searching each digital channel and you may find a "mirror" channel that is also a fox channel (for your 24 viewing).
i currently lost my cbs channel(3.1) but am able to pick it up now by way of channel(23.1) which is also a cbs channel.
titantv.com may also help you to locate some of the alternate channels in your area. good luck!

And now OUT of stock again.

I bought a Philly3576 in October '08 from Sam's Club. I love it. Easy setup. Very slight learning curve. Loved it enough to go back two weeks later to buy another one and learned there were none available. Went from store to store to store with no luck. Found this forum while trying to find another source to buy another Philly3576. While you weren't what I was looking for, you've been the best accident a guy could ask for by a long shot. THANK YOU for all of your research and documentation.

Anyway, I missed FedEx delivering my Maggie2160 this afternoon. I guess I can wait until tomorrow to set it up and see firsthand which approach to the day-to-day ops I prefer. I wouldn't have considered the Maggie had I not read about it here. Again...Thank you.

Based on the photos of earlier units and comments it looks like the HDD's are IDE interface, and it's encouraging that Dartman has swapped in a 250GB drive successfully. Is there a limit in the BIOS/FW at 250GB or has no one tried a higher capacity yet? Also, has anyone attempted driving a Dual Layer DVD burner in either of these machines?

I'd better shut up and go back to reading. It will still be a few days before I can get through all of the 3576/2160 related posts...

Inca

Magnovox site doesn't even list a H2160 let alone a support page.
Looks like a few phone calls are in order.

Try the Funai support site...

That would be a joke
Sent Funai request for FW update, we will see how they respond

Hmmm, I'd swear that the firmware versions were all the same on my Dec '08 2160 but maybe I just looked too quick. When I get it back from my neighbor that's test driving it I'll check again.

Update... my Dec 08 2160 has the new FE firmware.

FYI:Funai auto response
Thank you for submitting a ticket to Customer Service.

Your ticket number is [012-11135319-68E2].

Please keep this ticket number for your records and include it in the subject (including brackets) of all future emails regarding this issue.

Thank You,
Funai Corporation Customer Service Staff

You're going to get your neighbor addicted, then they're going to go to the Walmart site and experience the joy of cycling "In Stock" / "Out of Stock" messages. You must not like them.

Yes, but I will probably be the one going through the WalMart BS again ordering one for them.

Just picked up my two tonight in heavy rain. Actually only wanted one, but then I wanted the extended warranty so ordered a second with the warranty. I waited to get an order confirmation on the second order before trying the cancel the first order and by then it was too late. Maybe I'll find a use for the second machine instead of returning it, but then I already have the 3576... Now I can send out the Polaroid 2001g on extended warranty for the dead DVD drive.

Starting to have too many of these things LOL. Just set up my sister with my Radio Shack Accurian DVR with 80GB drive earlier tonight. Picked the Accurian over a year ago up because it was only $100 on clearance, but never had much use for it since the 2001G was much better for watching TV on chase play (same reason I bought the 2160 even though I already have a 3576).

Timer recordings just finished, now I can go swap in the 2160 and see if it's what I'm hoping for ; )

I'm confused about the 'constant spin' references about the Magnavox. I've come to the conclusion that since I usually watch TV through the VCR, I could so the same with the Magnavox. (Which, I might add, I ordered several hours ago from Wall-Mart.) By doing this, I don't really need a new television until a model I actually like comes on sale.

But if I do this, does this mean the drive is going to be continually spinning, and thus, lower the life expectancy of the machine? Or am I really missing something?

I wouldn't worry about the drive going out, if it should happen it is easily replaced(even with a larger one)
These drives are certified for DVR's lower power, longer life cycle

I think you are mis-reading that quote. My E-85 spins down the HDD when it goes to sleep and has to take the time to spin up again when I try to perform an operation that requires HDD access. Power saving spin-down is pretty standard in PC's and laptops.

Agreed. Spin-down appears to be all about the green movement...not saving wear and tear on the HDD. Here's some highlights of Disk failures and their metrics:

"A 2007 study published by Google suggested very little correlation between failure rates and either high temperature or activity level; however, the correlation between manufacturer/model and failure rate was relatively strong. Statistics in this matter is kept highly secret by most entities. Google did not publish the manufacturer's names along with their respective failure rates."

"The mean time between failures (MTBF) of SATA drives is usually about 600,000 hours (some drives such as Western Digital Raptor have rated 1.2 million hours MTBF), while SCSI drives are rated for upwards of 1.5 million hours. However, independent research indicates that MTBF is not a reliable estimate of a drive's longevity."

"MTBF is conducted in laboratory environments in test chambers and is an important metric to determine the quality of a disk drive before it enters high volume production. Once the drive product is in production, the more valid metric is annualized failure rate (AFR). AFR is the percentage of real-world drive failures after shipping."

I thought wajo might find this interesting.

Interesting discussion about adding an external HDD - of course then you would need to back it up somehow as discussed somewhat in HDD longevity.

One thing I've noticed with my Philips is that when I go through a number of Titles and delete some that I no longer want, it confuses what is "new". It seems to put "new" on every Title that's been moved into the new sequence - even though it's already been watched.

As for my "experiment" with dubbing - of course it works to dub the HQ Titles to DVD-RW then dub them back at EP to the HDD then combine them with other EP Titles (or combine with different lengths using the wajo chart) to burn a new DVD-R. All done in HSD. This saves a heck of a lot of laser burning (and hours of waiting) although it takes a few more steps. I also like it because I can decide later what speed to keep a program in instead of when I first record it.

FYI:Funai response to FW upgrade

Thank you for your inquiry,

There is no upgrade for this unit. What is the unit doing that makes you want an upgrade?

Jim 1599
Customer Support

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My response
This is not true my FW is R50_011_000
the newer released Mfg Dec 2008 H2160s are R50_013_000
Your support site needs to post these changes and allow owners to download the newer
firmware
This is what support services does
Post newer FW with explanation of what was fixed/changed
We have a large user group that needs to know this information.
See
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=940657

Please resolve this problem