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post #3481 of 23748
2/11/09 at 2:51pm
Do you suppose they actually sell any at those prices?
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post #3482 of 23748
2/11/09 at 2:51pm
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It must have been an oversight on the seller's part earlier; the shipping is now $29.99!

I'll sell him my 3575 for only $499.99
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post #3483 of 23748
2/11/09 at 2:54pm
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Get your 3576 while you can still get free shipping... only $849.99!


No wonder why it's called the "Happy Store"
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post #3484 of 23748
2/11/09 at 2:56pm
Maybe I'll buy the 2160 and sell the 3576. That would be a great return.
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post #3485 of 23748
2/11/09 at 3:03pm
Well heck! My new Maggie is on it's way from Wallyworld, due here tommorow. I'll let it go, brand new in unopened box, for $500.00 + 15.00 shipping (insurance extra). As an extra bonus it will include the 2yr warranty and I'll throw in a free blank DVD+R disk!
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post #3486 of 23748
2/11/09 at 3:13pm
Maybe I shoulda sold my extra 3575 with the bad burner and the bad QAM tuner, at that rate it would be worth what I paid for it in parts. I just turned it in today for the extended warranty finally...
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post #3487 of 23748
2/11/09 at 3:25pm
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Maybe I shoulda sold my extra 3575 with the bad burner and the bad QAM tuner, at that rate it would be worth what I paid for it in parts. I just turned it in today for the extended warranty finally...

Let us know what happens.
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post #3488 of 23748
2/11/09 at 5:55pm
Just for giggles I looked on eBay and they have 2 new 3576's going right now. One is at $405 with 1 day to go, the other is at $290 with 2 days left.
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post #3489 of 23748
2/11/09 at 8:27pm
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Not a problem at all. The SETUP menu options are only active if there's an action you can take at that time in the menu item.

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Also, when you use the INFO button/menu, those items change to match the type of medium your playing, etc.




Thanks wajo - told ya I was new at this

Looking thru some of the other postings here, this is a pretty versatile little box. Way more to it than just an updated VCR. This is gonna be some fun!
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post #3490 of 23748
2/12/09 at 5:36am
Now, Peter, I know you'd like to spend all weekend playing around with your new recorder...but...we're way behind on those TPS reports. So...I'm gonna need you to come in to work on Saturday...and Sunday as well, mkay...that would be great...
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post #3491 of 23748
2/12/09 at 8:59am
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4. Disc Edit is only active when a disc is inserted, and Finalize inside that menu is only active if there's at least 1-hour before a scheduled timer rec program start.

Ah, that must explain why I couldn't finalize one disc this weekend. I had thought I had done something wrong, but I guess that I had something timed within an hour. So even though it might not take that long to finalize, the machine just inserts that protection anyway.
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post #3492 of 23748
2/12/09 at 9:12am
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Ah, that must explain why I couldn't finalize one disc this weekend. I had thought I had done something wrong, but I guess that I had something timed within an hour. So even though it might not take that long to finalize, the machine just inserts that protection anyway.

The less User Data (video/audio) on a disc, the longer it takes to finalize. Since the amt of UD is unknown, and the burner is on the slow side, I guess the designers allowed plenty of time for a "worst-case" scenario, plus a skoch more?

Altho I've got multiple machines I can move a disc to if not enough time, someone with one machine can just change the start time of the close timer rec program, then change it back after finalize... or just wait till a little later?
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post #3493 of 23748
2/12/09 at 1:53pm
I haven't posted in ages,but I had to share this.I had a conversation today with a Wally world manager about the Philips 3576.She told me more were coming from Philips in March.Would have a new UPC code and possibly new (3577 ?) model number.I thought maybe this was the 80 gb Maggie we've been hearing about on Target site,but she said it was the same specs as Philips 3576 and "Philips".I said I thought Philips had stopped production & she said that the demand had surprised them and a new order contract was placed.I asked if they would be available at all Walmarts & she said she wasn't positive,but probably.
She had no reason to make this up & seemed knowledgable & even offered to let me know when her store got inventory.
So,ya'll may wanna skip paying those ridiculous prices
Oh & thanks for your efforts WAJO
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post #3494 of 23748
2/12/09 at 2:11pm
Nice work, qwerty!

Gee...I guess those retailers on amazon better hurry up and sell their 3576's stock at $850 (plus $29.99 shipping) while they can. As soon as Walmart inventory returns to normal levels, they're going to be out of luck!

Perhaps AVS Forum can pump new life into the dying DVDR market yet.

EDIT: Speaking of great deals, the same retailer on amazon is selling the Panasonic DMR-EH55S for $1,819.99 Seriously...who are they kidding?
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post #3495 of 23748
2/12/09 at 5:33pm
I just notice that Wal*Mart's web site is now showing the Magnavox H2160 in stock on line.
I'm placing my order tonight (if I can get the wife to OK it).
Ghpr13
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post #3496 of 23748
2/12/09 at 5:46pm
I've read the helpful posts but could still use some hand-holding. I purchased a 3576 to replace a broken (and beloved) Panny EH75V. I have the 3576 connected to my Sony 46XBR4 via HDMI. Comcaset cable STB is connected to the 3576 via composite cables. Exactly the way the Panny was hooked up. On the Panny, my TV aspect was set to "Pan & Scan" for the menu item 4:3 TV for DVD, and to "Letterbox" for the menu item 4:3 for Ram. HDMI output display was set to "normal". With these settings, widescreen HD content was neatly letterboxed in my recordings, and analog broadcasts were centered much as they were boradcast. Nothing was squished or stretched. On the 3576, not matter what setting I choose for Video (i.e. I tried all 3) and no matter what the HDMI output (480ip, etc.), the picture is a bit distorted in one way or another (generally stretched). I'm hoping someone can help me get these settings right.
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post #3497 of 23748
2/12/09 at 6:11pm
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Originally Posted by mfrank1 View Post

I've read the helpful posts but could still use some hand-holding. I purchased a 3576 to replace a broken (and beloved) Panny EH75V. I have the 3576 connected to my Sony 46XBR4 via HDMI. Comcaset cable STB is connected to the 3576 via composite cables. Exactly the way the Panny was hooked up. On the Panny, my TV aspect was set to "Pan & Scan" for the menu item 4:3 TV for DVD, and to "Letterbox" for the menu item 4:3 for Ram. HDMI output display was set to "normal". With these settings, widescreen HD content was neatly letterboxed in my recordings, and analog broadcasts were centered much as they were boradcast. Nothing was squished or stretched. On the 3576, not matter what setting I choose for Video (i.e. I tried all 3) and no matter what the HDMI output (480ip, etc.), the picture is a bit distorted in one way or another (generally stretched). I'm hoping someone can help me get these settings right.

Check your TV options for video signal input.
Like Zoom, Wide Zoom, Normal, Full
Check first post for setup procedures.
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post #3498 of 23748
2/12/09 at 6:34pm
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Originally Posted by mfrank1 View Post

I've read the helpful posts but could still use some hand-holding. I purchased a 3576 to replace a broken (and beloved) Panny EH75V. I have the 3576 connected to my Sony 46XBR4 via HDMI. Comcaset cable STB is connected to the 3576 via composite cables. Exactly the way the Panny was hooked up. On the Panny, my TV aspect was set to "Pan & Scan" for the menu item 4:3 TV for DVD, and to "Letterbox" for the menu item 4:3 for Ram. HDMI output display was set to "normal". With these settings, widescreen HD content was neatly letterboxed in my recordings, and analog broadcasts were centered much as they were boradcast. Nothing was squished or stretched. On the 3576, not matter what setting I choose for Video (i.e. I tried all 3) and no matter what the HDMI output (480ip, etc.), the picture is a bit distorted in one way or another (generally stretched). I'm hoping someone can help me get these settings right.

I had to read your post several times to figure out why you had set your DVDR/TV to letterbox for a 4:3 TV... your EH75 didn't have a digital-QAM tuner, so it could only see and record your cableco's analog channels, so it had to be a "slave" to the cable box, where it's "behind" the box so to speak.

You should place your 3576 1st on the coax, ahead of the box, as shown in Sketch 1B (Cable TV w/STB) here. Coax out to the STB and on to TV (if box has coax passthru out).

Then do a Channel > Auto Channel Preset > Cable (Analog/Digital), as described here, and see how many analog and digital channels the 3576 can tune all by itself.

Set the 3576 TV Aspect for 16:9 Wide. Analog channels will record in their normal, undistorted 4:3 aspect. Digital channels that send 16:9 WS programs will record in natural WS with the 3576 set for 16:9 Wide.

Setting your TV aspect is up to you since I don't know what "Normal" and "Full" do on that Sony but I set my 1080p LCD for WIDE, which shows my digital WS programs in natural WS and 4:3 programs on those digital channels with bars in the appropriate places to maintain 4:3 aspect. My TV shows 4:3 analog channels slightly stretched, but I don't mind the stretch since I'm almost exlusively recording digital WS channels now... YMMV on 4:3 analog channels and how you like to see them on your beautiful 16:9 TV... I can't stand to set my LCD for "proper" aspect for 4:3 analog channels where they occupy the center of the screen... PQ looks sharper than stretched, but just can't give up that full-screen pic here!

Keep your composite connection between the box and the 3576 for recording those channels only the box can tune (if any).
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post #3499 of 23748
2/12/09 at 6:49pm
Thanks auskck and wajo. wajo--I only use the dvd recorder to record downloaded content from the Comcast DVR that I wish to edit and archive (or give to my 90-yr-old cable-less mother-in-law on a dvd). Yes, I have to play from the Comacst DVR into the DVD recorder HDD in real time, but that's what I'm used to on the Panny. I don't know anything about digital-QAM tuners (I just bring everything into the 3576 on E1 -- never change the channel), but is there a way I can replicate the "slave" status that my Panny had without running the coax thru the 3576??
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post #3500 of 23748
2/12/09 at 6:54pm
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I just notice that Wal*Mart's web site is now showing the Magnavox H2160 in stock on line.
I'm placing my order tonight (if I can get the wife to OK it).
Ghpr13

If you got it ordered then you got the last one. It's showing out of stock now.

The Magnavox was available for a whole week this time around.
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post #3501 of 23748
2/12/09 at 7:20pm
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Originally Posted by mfrank1 View Post

Thanks auskck and wajo. wajo--I only use the dvd recorder to record downloaded content from the Comcast DVR that I wish to edit and archive (or give to my 90-yr-old cable-less mother-in-law on a dvd). Yes, I have to play from the Comacst DVR into the DVD recorder HDD in real time, but that's what I'm used to on the Panny. I don't know anything about digital-QAM tuners (I just bring everything into the 3576 on E1 -- never change the channel), but is there a way I can replicate the "slave" status that my Panny had without running the coax thru the 3576??

If you keep your current connections
Svideo from cable box to the 3576 may give you better PQ
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post #3502 of 23748
2/12/09 at 7:34pm
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Originally Posted by mfrank1 View Post

Thanks auskck and wajo. wajo--I only use the dvd recorder to record downloaded content from the Comcast DVR that I wish to edit and archive (or give to my 90-yr-old cable-less mother-in-law on a dvd). Yes, I have to play from the Comacst DVR into the DVD recorder HDD in real time, but that's what I'm used to on the Panny. I don't know anything about digital-QAM tuners (I just bring everything into the 3576 on E1 -- never change the channel), but is there a way I can replicate the "slave" status that my Panny had without running the coax thru the 3576??

I would normally say you should set the 3576 for 4:3 Letter Box, but you said you tried all 3 settings and nothing is satisfactory. Those 3 settings are the only things that can affect aspect ratio when the 3576 gets its signal from the tuner or an external input.

If the 3576 was 1st on the coax, you'd have three independent tuners to tune analog AND digital channels in their natural aspect ratios.

You'd still retain your composite connection between the box and the 3576 for recording like you're used to, but I think you'd abandon that method with the "proper" setup, except for those channels that the 3576 couldn't tune by itself.

The diff with the 3576 is that setting the Video > TV Aspect menu options changes how things are viewed and recorded... they're not just setting the output of DVDs or recordings to a TV with certain aspects. The combo is apparently not working like they used to cuz of this and not sure how to get you back to a non-digital state with the "digital-minded" 3576 with settable recording aspects.
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post #3503 of 23748
2/12/09 at 7:43pm
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I've read the helpful posts but could still use some hand-holding. I purchased a 3576 to replace a broken (and beloved) Panny EH75V.

Unless your DMR-EH75 caught fire and burned up, there isn't much that can't be remedied with this unique product. I prefer to think of such a machine as removed from service pending some "TLC." If it's more serious than the usual fifteen minute procedure cleaning the DVD Drive's rubber hub, the experts at the corporate Panasonic Digital Service Center in Elk Grove Village Illinois offer a prompt and efficient $130 flat-rate repair that returns a Panasonic to new or better than new functional condition. The $130 flat-rate includes whatever parts are needed, labor and return shipping. See this post for more information:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post14451738

The Panasonic DVD Drive rubber hub cleaning advice and photos are found in this post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post14479898
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post #3504 of 23748
2/12/09 at 9:07pm
Should I protect my HDTV and 2160 with a surge protector and if so what kind should I get?
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post #3505 of 23748
2/13/09 at 3:34am
wajo--What I thought was interesting is that I notice no change no matter which of the 3 video settings I try. The image does change as I flip through the HDMI settings, but each is a little distorted in its own way (stretched or flattened). I was hoping there was a way to bypass the tuner using direct input, thereby basically reproducing what my cable box "sees". I have to burn a test disc to see how these setting changes will look on another DVD player. I am reluctant to put the coax thru the 3576, not only because it's hard to get to behind a cabinet (I hooked up the 3576 easily using the existing cables for the EH75V), but also because my system has been just the way I've wanted it (and change, as we all know, is bad).
DigaDo--I do hope to have my EH75V repaired and then move the 3576 to another room (where I can easily hook it to the coax). I love that machine!
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post #3506 of 23748
2/13/09 at 7:16am
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If you got it ordered then you got the last one. It's showing out of stock now.

The Magnavox was available for a whole week this time around.



Now, the 3576 shows In Stock at Walmart online!

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post #3507 of 23748
2/13/09 at 7:33am
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If you got it ordered then you got the last one. It's showing out of stock now.

The Magnavox was available for a whole week this time around.

I'm actually a little surprised they lasted a whole week -- even after Walmart raised the price $10. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks there are a few people buying a stockpile to attempt to sell later for $849.99 + $29.99 shipping. Oh wait -- there are already scumbags doing thathere. Silly me.

Well, like wajo said, there's always the Philips for $298.54 if you're desperate. I'd probably roll the dice and wait for the next shipment of Magnavox's if it were me. I wonder if Walmart raises the price on it again to $259.98 next time. It wouldn't surprise me at all. Even so, it's still a lot cheaper than the Philips...and better IMHO.
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post #3508 of 23748
2/13/09 at 7:54am
I recieved the Magnavox from Walm yesterday. That was quicker than what they estimated when I ordered. Glad I got it when I did at the 250 price.

Un-boxed it and have it set up in the cabinet waiting for the Comcast visit on Mon. Knowing me, I'll probably take a crack at it this weekend. I just don't want to get too crazy, because the CC is gonna change everything.

I also ordered 3 HDMI cables from Monoprice based on your rec (only need 1 cable but, for that price...). I do have a decent set of component cabes if there should be any problems as described above.

BTW - I do have digital voice phone service thru Comast too. I hope that doesn't cause problems, but that is a good tip to keep an eye on once it's up and running.
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post #3509 of 23748
2/13/09 at 8:00am
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Now's the time to do a channel scan Cable (Analog/Digital) with 2160 1st on coax and see how many channels the 2160 can tune w/o a box or CC!?

That way you can compare to what you get after Comcast install to see fi a CC changes anything?

Also, it'll be interesting to see if the cable guy says the 2160 won't work if it's 1st o n the coax!?
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post #3510 of 23748
2/13/09 at 8:12am
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Now's the time to do a channel scan Cable (Analog/Digital) with 2160 1st on coax and see how many channels the 2160 can tune w/o a box or CC!?

That way you can compare to what you get after Comcast install to see fi a CC changes anything?

Also, it'll be interesting if the cable guy says the 2160 won't work if it's 1st o n the coax!?

That's a great point. Now I have an excuse to get in there and play! Just wish I had the HDMI cable first, but that is a pretty simple change. I'll go with the comp wires to get started.

How do you think I should make the connection when the CC is installed? Coax to Mag, hdmi to component in in the tv?
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