1) Response to Todd14420 (#5213 post)
Your right Todd14420
, the Walmart.com
warehouse is now out, and that was the only source for the H2160MW9
that I found that actually had them in stock.http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10104532Amazon
is still out and they were selling theirs (when they had them) for $279.http://www.amazon.com/Magnavox-HDD-a...4079651&sr=8-4
Someone on Amazon
has 1 used Magnavox H2080MW8
- that they’re willing to part with for $449.99 (plus S&H)http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001HVBV8Q/...l_53jurowveg_e
I hope that this isn’t it already?
None of the local Walmarts around here even have a shelf tag for the product anymore. So if Funai
doesn’t find another major distributor or, lord willing, come out with a newer, “better” model, then this boat may have left the dock, and this thread will be for existing owners of these HD recorders, rather than new ones.
2) azbuckeyeracer wrote
Please, stephan56, take your very technical issues about heat to that other forum as you suggested somewhere within your remarks. That Wajo, Auskck and a host of others have done such a great service to owners of these two very similar units (3575/76 & H2160) is commendable and your comments and rebuttals regarding a very specific subtopic are not warranted. I do not dispute your expertise or your conclusions, just your wisdom in posting within this thread....
Sorry about that azbuckeyeracer
, and my apologizes to both Wajo
and anyone else who was offended by my comments.
My least intention was to hijack Wajo’s
wonderful thread, or divert it off topic.
Like yourself, I came to this thread to learn as much as I can about these HD recorders and share my personal experience with them.
I suppose I shouldn’t have made that original SATA heat/energy statement in the original post. It was just a minor comment at that time, but it lead to a greater discourse. And I know that I can get a little windy on a subject and that can be distracting.
I am very much like yourself on this thing. I got into converting an old VHS tape collection to DVD’s (those that would let me) and then to using the DVD recorder for whatever interested me off the air. Then my unit died and I had a heck of a time finding a replacement, which led me to HD DVD recorders.
was the only one I could find and now it may be drying up fast. Looks like I/we got into this thing at the tail end of something that was very good. And now my greatest concern on this subject is to find ways to make the unit that I have, and the one that I hope is still coming, to last as long as I can, which led to the comment that heat can be a killer of hard drives
… so there you have it.
I promise that unless someone else brings it up that I won’t again comment on it.
3) Reply to SteelTownGuy
...Google claims optimum operating temperatures of 97F/36C - 117F/47.2C which sounds reasonable to me....
Sounds very reasonable to me as well.
Hopefully, to lay this issue to rest...
We are agreed, ambient temps are definitely a key variable, as in most instances electronic components rely on ambient temps for cooling (generally speaking cooler ambient temp, cooler unit). Of course too cold is also not good (I like your mentioning NASA and the Goldilocks “not too hot and not too cold, but just right” analogy.)
You are correct, electronics, like an automobile engine, prefer a certain optimum operating temperature range for maximum efficiency and longevity, and should be warmed up before “hitting the throttle.”
(but even the old air-cooled VW engines could overheat and warp if the outside air temp was too high
If hard drives are too cold
they likewise can become unreliable. But because they do generate so much heat and, as in a computer, are just one of many components that do so, they usually warm themselves up quite quickly.
I have never personally
encountered a situation or anyone (outside of sensitive electronics in an arctic/subarctic type environment, where the ambient temp and ventilation needed to be adequate before turning anything on to avoid condensation and cold shock), who had a real problem with hard drive instability because of them being too cold, though I can see how it can happen.
In southern climes people need to keep the indoor ambient temps down to help cool both themselves and their electronics. That is an additional energy expense factor.
In far northern and extreme southern climes it costs energy to warm up the ambient opreating room temperature as well.My own rule of thumb
, having been in both desert and arctic/sub arctic environments, is to set 100F/38C as an UPPER LIMIT (ambient temperature) for operating any computer driven components that rely on ambient temperatures for cooling. DO NOT RUN unless the ambient temperature is below this destructive threshold.
Likewise it would be wise not to turn such electronic devices on if the ambient temp is close to freezing (0C/32F).
My next goal being to keep the components as close to their elusive “ideal” operating temperatures as is possible, to gain both maximum efficiency and longevity.
4) Auskck wrote:
1. For a small price for a couple of cables you can make it ESATA
2. Possible DVD burner replacement for Magnavox series HDD DVRs
Magnavox DVD Recorder, ZC320MW8
Specs appear to be the same at worst case run it in linehttp://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...#ProductDetail
And I see that unit even has a tuner, just no HD to go along with it.
The burner may be the same (I’ll have to try to locate a more comprehensive spec sheet)?
The media type is not quite as broad as the H2160
(no Kodak Picture or JPEG photo playback specifically mentioned), but that may have been an omission error.
When the warranty is up on my existing H2160, if these guys are still around, it may behoove me to get one and try it out for compatibility.
I guess I should probably get one of these sooner if the H2160 availability has already dried out.
store was the only place I could find them and now they’re out-of-stock, for who knows how long?....
Regarding hard drives ESATA
sounds like the even better option...Place a SATA HD in an external ESATA shell and connect to the H2160
How have you rigged the H2160 for connection?
Do you just leave the case open or have you found a way to connect through the back?
I know that eSata is much faster but I already have a few Seagate Free Agents
USB 2 external HDs (500-750GB-1TB), do you know if the H2160 will accept a USB 2 conversion?
USB 2 is fast enough to watch video on, I stored several movies (among other things) to be viewed on a laptop during my last deployment on one of these external HDs and had no problems at all with it.
I’m kind’a anxious to open up my H2160 and get a look inside, but I don’t want to be premature, just in case I have a legitimate problem (that they can actually fix
) while under warranty.
Anyway, thanks Auskck
for these ideas and suggestions.
When I have more time I’ll try to find and read all your posts on the subject since I feel confident that is the route I’ll be heading.