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post #13291 of 18893
hi guys
I need help
Iam udsing intel-quadcore q6600 with 4gb ram and intel nvidia geforce 8500gt 256mb

Ima using this cpu and i have 200 of home videos(from all the realitves insight)
out of those 100 of those are 6gb dvd formatted files
now iam using xvid4psp to convert it to m2ts files(yes bluray format)
don't ask me why thatswhat they want ..Iknow the quality isn't much
most of them are want on new format and new disc)another thing is this is the only software known that also converts audio to 5.1
i tried some give no 5.1,some are accepts only small files
anyways....

it took around 2-3days for eacg disc to convert it
I want to change the cpu to corei7 920 or 930 with atleast 4gb and good graphic software

does it speed up the converting?
and also iam looking for better than quadcore ...in amonth

please help
post #13292 of 18893
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Wanchope View Post

My main goals are DVD/Blu-ray playback, PC gaming, streaming internet video. When the Cablecard tuners finally come out (hopefully before the World Cup!), I will be adding that as well and using this setup as a DVR. I want to record every single World Cup game (in HD)!

I plan to connect this to my Onxyo AVR and bitstream all audio. This shouldn't be a problem right?


Am I missing anything? Are there any things I should consider changing? Thanks in advance for any thoughts or ideas.

Yup, bitstreaming should work (possibly with EDID override), and your component selection is good.
post #13293 of 18893
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by vamovie View Post

it took around 2-3days for eacg disc to convert it
I want to change the cpu to corei7 920 or 930 with atleast 4gb and good graphic software

does it speed up the converting?
and also iam looking for better than quadcore ...in amonth

Changing Q6600 to Core i7 860/920/930 will reduce encoding time greatly (60-70% faster).
post #13294 of 18893
Anybody out there tried a Pico-PSU (Mini-Box.com) in a SFF case like the APEX MI-100BK? This would allow full-height Heatsink and much better airflow.
post #13295 of 18893
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

Changing Q6600 to Core i7 860/920/930 will reduce encoding time greatly (60-70% faster).

Thankyou man
I really appreciate it
post #13296 of 18893
Now
where can i get dual cpu processors mother board?
I heard that they are already released
post #13297 of 18893
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Originally Posted by vamovie View Post

Now
where can i get dual cpu processors mother board?
I heard that they are already released

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...l%20LGA%201366

These are server motherboards but those are all dual socket. Not sure if encoding apps can run two processors. Maybe someone here has a set up like that
post #13298 of 18893
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

Actual difference of power consumption is ~10W. If the server runs literally 24/7 without sleep, you may save some money with 240e in the long run.

Does anyone here have experience under volting a media server setup based on the athlon II x2 240? I want an energy efficient whs system, without loosing critical power.
It seems like some users on silentpcreview http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums...ic.php?t=58228 had good succes with the 240 (claiming atom 330 like performance in idle), but they were not running a server.

Thanks!
post #13299 of 18893
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Originally Posted by Jacob B View Post

My worries are not heat, but energy usage, as the server will be on 24/7.
What would i save using the 240e - as compared to the 240?
And are there any down sides to the 240e?
I know the 45w vs 65w doesnt really tell the whole watt usage story, but my knowledge runs really thin here...

Thanks,
Jacob

I am using the 240e in my WHS server. With a full size Gigabyte ATX (GA-MA785GT-UD3H) motherboard, 4GB memory, PCI fax modem, MagicJack, 2 hard drives and 500 watt power supply my idle power usage is about 58 watts. CPU temp is about 98F. I have Cool N Quiet enabled. Performance has been great and has been perfectly stable. I will be changing to a 360 watt PS, hope to reduce usage another 10 watts.
post #13300 of 18893
I have a Sempron 140 unlocked into dual core Athlon X2 with undervolting at 1.05v. Saves about 5-10w at idle. Try lowering ur volts to 1.1v first and if stable, lower it incrementally down to 1.05v or lower if you dare.
post #13301 of 18893
thanks to both of you
post #13302 of 18893
I'm not sure if anyone else has had this problem but I have had problems with stuttering and audio cutting out on my HDHomeRun recording TV from OTA. There is a thread on thegreenbutton.com with some possible fixes. But none of those worked. Luckily I got a new modem and had to read the HDHomeRun manual for some troubleshooting and noticed they recommended a 5-1000MHz splitter. I looked at mine and I was using a 5-2300MHz. I switched to a 5-1000MHZ splitter and it worked!! What a simple fix and finally happy my 2 month problem is gone.
post #13303 of 18893
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

I recommend to disable Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder (use Win7DSFilterTweaker), use ffdshow Audio Decoder instead and select AC3 pass-through.

I have downloaded this thing but I have no idea what to do with it all these options. How do you configure this thing?
post #13304 of 18893
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Originally Posted by swing8 View Post

I have downloaded this thing but I have no idea what to do with it all these options. How do you configure this thing?

Just disable Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder using Win7DSFilterTweaker. 7MC will use the audio decoder of the highest merit value (usually ffdshow Audio Decoder).
post #13305 of 18893
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...l%20LGA%201366

These are server motherboards but those are all dual socket. Not sure if encoding apps can run two processors. Maybe someone here has a set up like that

Nice these mobo are really good
but they are the capable of xeon series processors and quadcore's and six cores
are there any capability of core i7 processors on these motherboardsor does it have to be xeon processors only
are there any icore processors in xeon

which one is faster
xeon quads/six cores or i core i7's
please help
post #13306 of 18893
Quote:
Originally Posted by renethx View Post

Just disable Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder using Win7DSFilterTweaker. 7MC will use the audio decoder of the highest merit value (usually ffdshow Audio Decoder).

and what I'm telling you is I don't see where to do that.
post #13307 of 18893
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Originally Posted by swing8 View Post

and what I'm telling you is I don't see where to do that.

If you are using mpc-hc you can also use it to block the microsoft filter. (But only for mpc)

Its in this guide.
http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010...7-htpc-part-i/
post #13308 of 18893
Renethx,

I have a P7P77d EVO MB with 2 PCIE 2.0 x16 slots. The #1 slot is too close to the CPU cooler for me to install a passive 4670 HIS video card I have but the motherboard manual states that I should use the #1 slot for 'Best Performance."
This is a workstation. What would happen if I used the #2 slot?
Is there a better card for desktop duties with two DVI out that could drive 2 1920X1050 monitors on W764?
Low idle power seems too much to ask for most of the ones I have looked at but it is one of my goals. I do mostly Adobe and some basic video editing/transcoding.

TIA
post #13309 of 18893
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

If you are using mpc-hc you can also use it to block the microsoft filter. (But only for mpc)

Its in this guide.
http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010...7-htpc-part-i/

@ swing8,

Also check Part II of the guide t hat whiteboy714 links to as I clearly show screenshots of Win7DSFilterTweaker.
post #13310 of 18893
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Originally Posted by vamovie View Post

Nice these mobo are really good
but they are the capable of xeon series processors and quadcore's and six cores
are there any capability of core i7 processors on these motherboardsor does it have to be xeon processors only
are there any icore processors in xeon

which one is faster
xeon quads/six cores or i core i7's
please help

Another thing to consider is that most "server" motherboards require ECC memory which is more expensive than non ECC memory.
post #13311 of 18893
Quote:
Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

If you are using mpc-hc you can also use it to block the microsoft filter. (But only for mpc)

Its in this guide.
http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010...7-htpc-part-i/

Well, that actually showed me the options renethx was talking about; thank you.
post #13312 of 18893
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jmasterman View Post

Renethx,

I have a P7P77d EVO MB with 2 PCIE 2.0 x16 slots. The #1 slot is too close to the CPU cooler for me to install a passive 4670 HIS video card I have but the motherboard manual states that I should use the #1 slot for 'Best Performance."
This is a workstation. What would happen if I used the #2 slot?
Is there a better card for desktop duties with two DVI out that could drive 2 1920X1050 monitors on W764?
Low idle power seems too much to ask for most of the ones I have looked at but it is one of my goals. I do mostly Adobe and some basic video editing/transcoding.

TIA

The second PCIe x16 slot works at 2.0 x8, that is enough for video playback.

Many graphics card including HD 4670 can drive 2 1920X1200 displays, but often video playback performance is not good at this resolution. I recommend HD 5750 or higher.
post #13313 of 18893
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Originally Posted by fivestarplus View Post

Another thing to consider is that most "server" motherboards require ECC memory which is more expensive than non ECC memory.

Thankyou five star
yes i found out for that price i can make 2 almost highend cpu's
I am sticking with core i7 930

sorry to bother you guys
Ima researching
here is my config. please let me know if i need to upgrade or degrade

corei7 930 under200.00 i hope
intel mobo under150.00(with atleast 24gb max memory upgradeable)
whats the difference between 1156 and1366 mobo which is better
gtx graphic card
starting with 2 500Gb hd(bought it)
liteon bd-rom (bought it)
lg br-writer(bought it)
my question is do you guys think 500watt psu is enough
where can i get the memory for good price
(do they have 4gb sticks)
ofcourse case bought it already

please help


thankyou in advance
post #13314 of 18893
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Originally Posted by vamovie View Post

corei7 930 under200.00 i hope
whats the difference between 1156 and1366 mobo which is better

Can't use a i7 9xx Chip on a 1156 socket the i7 9xx chips uses the 1366 socket MB.

1156 socket is for the i7 8xx chips/i5/i3

Yes you can get the 930 for $200 + Tax if you got a MicoCenter or even get lucky find a 920 still in stock for less.
$150 for the 1366 MB will be tuff not sure what's out there for that I paid $240 for my EVGA 758 MB back in FEB I guess I depends on all what you need on the MB

Since you said your sticking with the i7 9xx chip don't even look at the 1156 socket boards ( since if requires one of those other chips I mentioned) there's really no difference small things like Triple Channel Ram in the 1366 and some small other stuff.

Is there a reason you need 4GB sticks (or were you just wondering because of the 24GB expandable, most people only need 4,6,8 GB of RAM)

Don't cheap out on the PSU 500 Watt maybe depending on the Brand (don't be one of those people who buy all these high end parts and than won't spend over $50 on a PSU and than complain 1 month later there other parts are failing) I'd say get yourself a good 650 watt Min PSU (if your running that i7 9xx) something like a Corsair or even Antec I've been hearing good reviews on them lately.

Also if your not going to be running Dual GPU in SLI/Crossfire you might want to consider just getting a i7 86x chip and a 1156 Socket MB could save yourself a atleast $200 if not more when you add up the CPU,MB,RAM prices.

Lastly you are going to need to OC them to really help speed things up.
i7 9xx can be pushed to 4.0 on air no problem with a good heatsink ( you will have to OC in the Bios to get past the 8xx Dummy OC speeds if that's important to you)
i7 8xx has a better Dummy OC

Good Luck

I'm in the process of building setup to but nothing like that since I just built a i7 920 rig for my main computer

@renethx or anyone else

Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio/Master Audio bitstreams
Every Radeon HD 5xxx graphics card
Every Intel Core i5/i3 (Clarkdale) processor

Does this mean for me to be able to playback Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD I will need to get a 5xxx GPU even if I have the i3 ( I was looking at getting a MB with 9300 Chip onboard but if that won't play back those HD audio with the i3 than this answers alot for me and I can start building right away) or would my Denon Receiver do all the work since the i3 can bitstream
post #13315 of 18893
Great info, been using a lot to build my own system!

Thanks!
post #13316 of 18893
I have been reviewing the last several hundred entries and I need some advice.I have never built a computer before. I am interested in a Kaleidoscape type htpc that can download HD video and rip DVD/ BD,CD music to a large maybe 10 gig -20gig or larger hard drive storage that has backup. Also stream Internet / Youtube and other download movie services would also be used. I also need possible encoding and high end audio/ video output to go HDMI to a Anthem AVM50 audio video processor that can decode to multiple formats DTS/ Dolby pro etc. THis will feed a Sony projection VPL vw100 to a 92" diagonal screen. High end audio video is desired. I have a Dell Precision 490 computer that is for general use in my study that is 50 feet from the entertainment room. It is hooked up to a gigbyte router for Cable modem. This will probably not to be used for the playback system.
I have read alot about the EX 495 HP Mediasmart server and hard drive bays to link to it such a San Digital TR5M for additional storage. If I hooked the HP MMS to a Premium ATX htpc that you have suggested, would that be easier than building everything from scratch. I could buy the parts and then have a company like PC CLub here in town build it for me. I will not be doing any gaming. I was looking for a nice user interface like MY MOVIES to link to the Windows Home Server to look like the Kaleidoscape interface.I would like a large touch screen. DVR is not a priority since I have cable HD DVR box. Cost not really a problem. I noticed that alot of programing and difficulties are encountered when building from scratch and wanted plug and play as much as possible. Any advice is appreciated!!
post #13317 of 18893
cool
@ BDdestroyer 8418

i will go for 650watt psu
yes iam planning to go for OC
as per GPU yes iwant to use dual GPU with sli crossfire
what are the real benefits though iwinder
and lastely on RAM iam just wondering coz in the long idon't want to replace and put them to sale
instead i will go for 2 4GB =8gb for starting if they are carrying 4GB sticks

Thanks for everyone for their thoughts and helping me'this site:rocks:
post #13318 of 18893
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by BDestroyer8418 View Post

Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio/Master Audio bitstreams
Every Radeon HD 5xxx graphics card
Every Intel Core i5/i3 (Clarkdale) processor

Does this mean for me to be able to playback Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD I will need to get a 5xxx GPU even if I have the i3 ( I was looking at getting a MB with 9300 Chip onboard but if that won't play back those HD audio with the i3 than this answers alot for me and I can start building right away) or would my Denon Receiver do all the work since the i3 can bitstream

You will need either HD 5xxx (discrete graphics) (with any processror and mb), or Core i3/i5 Clarkdale processor (integrated grahics) + H55/H57 mb.
post #13319 of 18893
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

You will need either HD 5xxx (discrete graphics) (with any processror and mb), or Core i3/i5 Clarkdale processor (integrated grahics) + H55/H57 mb.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I will be going with the i3 with a iGPU I'm think is the best for me.

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Originally Posted by vamovie View Post

instead i will go for 2 4GB =8gb for starting if they are carrying 4GB sticks

You might want to look for a 12 GB kit so you can take advantage of your Triple Channel for your MB it will run the 2@4GB sticks fine in dual channel but the x58 Motherboards run in Triple Channel so I would start with atleast 3@ 2GB sticks or 3 @ 4GB sticks since your building new I wouldn't skimp on that.


IF your going dual GPU then you might even need to setup on your PSU, I'm not sure what the min would be for what your tossing in there but I ran a 750 watt Corsair on my Q6600 and sold that and upgraded to the 850 watt Corsair for my new 920 rig since when I get more money to spend I will run Dual GPU soon and wanted to have enough power ( someone else could prob help you with the min would be but Dual GPU and the 650 I should say be ok if along as if has enough PCI-E connections Dual GPU your going to need 4 x PCI-E so you might have to bump it up to 750w if you cant find one, I went with the 850 one since I might try a 3rd GPU soon after I try the Dual so mine has 6 x PCI-E connections and didn't want to have to upgrade my PSU if I ever wanted to try that)

Just google Dual GPU you will get some good info about that.
post #13320 of 18893
I am after some advice regarding upgrading my current setup. I was an early adopter of the Intel G45 motherboards and have lived without bit streaming waiting for some new products to come out and think it's finally time to bite the bullet!

My system only has one PCI-E slot which I currently use for the TV tuner and three PCI slots. I already use TMT3 for BluRay/HD-DVD playback so Xonar HDAV Slim is probably the easiest choice (and cheapest) however from the reading I have done it still sounds like there are a few bugs with this setup. I am also concerned with being tied to one product, TMT3 and potentially being stranded depending on future releases etc

It seems there are a few other options now such as the Radeon 5XXX and new intel cpus with integrated gpu. To use the Radeon's I would have to replace my tv tuner with one that sits in PCI slot. To use the new Intel cpus I would end up replacing my motherboard, cpu, ram which might be too costly.

Should I just go for the Xonar Slim or bite the bullet on one of the more complicated options?
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