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post #17041 of 18935
5/16/11 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by charlievoviii View Post
i dont see why you cant play fullscreen with your setup. I have a I3 370m with Intel HD integgrated graphic laptop and i can run full screen with no issues to any TV or Projector at 1080p.
Sorry for the confusion, I haven't built this setup yet. This is a setup I'm PROPOSING to build. My current setup (which is choking) is vintage 2003 with an ATI 3600 AGP card

Also, I can play most 1080p just fine, only problem is flash based video.
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5/16/11 at 2:29pm
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

The power consumption of the system is ~50W at video playback, ~95W at CPU/GPU intensive task (it is very hard to achieve 95W, however). Unless you tightly block the sides of the case, overheating shouldn't happen. Make sure to leave at least a couple of inches of free space at both sides of the case.

It's hard to tell what the cause is. Does the system freeze at the playback of a particular media file or randomly? Clean installing OS and drivers is a good idea.

Renethx

First of all, I love this machine and I am so glad I used your guide. The sides aren't totally blocked, but now that I have ordered a Ceton Tuner, I am going to place the unit out in the open behind the TV. That will elimiate overheating as an issue.

I also ordered an SSD so I will be doing a fresh install in a few days.

So far the problem only happened yesterday on a specific recording. My daughter says it happens at the same spot in the show each time. The machine stayed up all day today.

I think after moving the machine and giving it a fresh OS Install, that will clean it right up.

Am I going to run intio any power issues when the Ceton is installed? If it can peek at 95W, that only leaves me 55W for the Ceton card.
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post #17043 of 18935
5/16/11 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by trpltongue View Post

I hate to interupt the current conversation, but I was hoping you might have some feedback on a system I'm looking to build.

This is a budget build designed to do 2 things:

1) playback standard def dvd's at 1080p
2) playback fullscreen flash video at 1080p (hulu, nbc, hbo, etc)

This will be connected via spdif to my receiver, and hdmi to my 1080P 2D projector.

Will this system have the resources to get it done?

CPU: Intel i3-2100 SandyBridge
Motherboard: ASRock H67M-ITX
Memory: 2x2GB G.Skill DDR3 1333
Graphics: integrated
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA 6.0GB/s
Case: HEC 7k09BBA30FNRX

I don't really want to upgrade because I love my current setup, but it just can't playback fullscreen flash video at 1080p from hbogo.com or abc, nbc, etc.

Thanks!

Hardware-wise the system is perfectly fine, supporting full hardware acceleration for Flash Player. (If there were a problem, the cause would be something else other than the hardware components of the system. )
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post #17044 of 18935
5/16/11 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by epete View Post

Am I going to run intio any power issues when the Ceton is installed? If it can peek at 95W, that only leaves me 55W for the Ceton card.

Adding the Ceton card should be no problem. The power consumption the card is much lower (~14W).
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post #17045 of 18935
5/17/11 at 5:00am
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

Hardware-wise the system is perfectly fine, supporting full hardware acceleration for Flash Player. (If there were a problem, the cause would be something else other than the hardware components of the system. )

Thanks! Though, with some more reading I think I'm going to hold off until the 2105 is released. Hopefully the 2100 will drop in price, or I'll go ahead and pick up the 2105 for only a few bucks more.
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post #17046 of 18935
5/17/11 at 10:18am
Hi folks...

Complete newbie here, but here goes.

So i'm looking to build a HTPC that will also handle doing quality movie editing/rendering... I haven't looked thought this thread yet but I picked up the latest Maximum PC issue "How to build the perfect PC" and was going to follow their HTPC build (with a few minor adjustments).

Since this is my first time, would their build be a good option to follow? (if no one has seen the issue, nevermind).
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post #17047 of 18935
5/17/11 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by Superman2 View Post

Hi folks...

Complete newbie here, but here goes.

So i'm looking to build a HTPC that will also handle doing quality movie editing/rendering... I haven't looked thought this thread yet but I picked up the latest Maximum PC issue "How to build the perfect PC" and was going to follow their HTPC build (with a few minor adjustments).

Since this is my first time, would their build be a good option to follow? (if no one has seen the issue, nevermind).

Maximum PC is more for gaming and not what you are looking for, so wrong place to start. This more of a budget HTPC system. If you are looking for something to render video you going to to spent money.

For example my video editing PC which i watch movie once in a while.
Intel i970 6 cores "the more cores the better for video rendering"
16gig of ram
Dual GTX580 SLI "Lots of Cuda is good"


Well tell us what software will use be using for rendering and such, also what's your budget? i will try to piece together a good system for you.
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post #17048 of 18935
5/17/11 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by charlievoviii View Post


Maximum PC is more for gaming and not what you are looking for, so wrong place to start. This more of a budget HTPC system. If you are looking for something to render video you going to to spent money.

For example my video editing PC which i watch movie once in a while.
Intel i970 6 cores "the more cores the better for video rendering"
16gig of ram
Dual GTX580 SLI "Lots of Cuda is good"

Well tell us what software will use be using for rendering and such, also what's your budget? i will try to piece together a good system for you.

Thanks man!

I'm probably going to use premiere to edit and stuff... I'm hoping not to go over $1500 tops at the moment, and willing to take my time.

I really just want a nice htpc to hook up to my projector/avr; use as the be all home media hub, and also be able to edit all the movies I've been taking in 720p/1080p...
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post #17049 of 18935
5/17/11 at 1:43pm
Quick reality check.

On the recommended systems, will I be able to get audio out of the spdif connector? I know most people are bitstreaming audio via hdmi, but I plan on using optical audio to my receiver for my movies, and web delivered content (youtube, hulu, nbc, etc). The guide shows a big fat X for DDL or DTSI on all the recommended systems.

Does this mean that there will be no sound through the optical audio port?

Thanks!
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post #17050 of 18935
5/17/11 at 1:54pm
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Originally Posted by Superman2 View Post

Thanks man!

I'm probably going to use premiere to edit and stuff... I'm hoping not to go over $1500 tops at the moment, and willing to take my time.

I really just want a nice htpc to hook up to my projector/avr; use as the be all home media hub, and also be able to edit all the movies I've been taking in 720p/1080p...

Since you mention Adobe premiere, which that software is optimize for multicores and Cudas. I know this cause I use Adobe premiere, After Effects, etc etc. Most video editing software supports multicores and Cudas. $1500 bucks should build a decent editing computer, not great but decent and absolutely run all your media stuffs no issues. Since HTPC dont need lots of power.
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post #17051 of 18935
5/17/11 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by trpltongue View Post

Quick reality check.

On the recommended systems, will I be able to get audio out of the spdif connector? I know most people are bitstreaming audio via hdmi, but I plan on using optical audio to my receiver for my movies, and web delivered content (youtube, hulu, nbc, etc). The guide shows a big fat X for DDL or DTSI on all the recommended systems.

Does this mean that there will be no sound through the optical audio port?

Thanks!

lol. If it have optical/spdif Toslink out put than it work. Most pc or even built on soundcard have this output. If you are using a microATX motherboard, double check cause sometime they dont come with one.
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post #17052 of 18935
5/17/11 at 2:24pm
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Originally Posted by charlievoviii View Post

lol. If it have optical/spdif Toslink out put than it work. Most pc or even built on soundcard have this output. If you are using a microATX motherboard, double check cause sometime they dont come with one.

I recall that a while back, the only way you could get system audio from the spdif connector was if you had Dolby Digital live. Normal SPDIF would output compressed dolby digital (i.e. bitstreamed from a movie), but not uncompressed multichannel (i.e. surround sound from abc.com or hulu) from the system. Windows sounds, etc. wouldn't be sent through SPDIF.

Dolby Digital Live encoded these sounds into a Dolby Digital bitstream and then the receiver would decode them.

I just want to make sure that when I hook up the SPDIF connector from the motherboard to my receiver that I will get all windows sounds, website sounds, movie bitstreams, etc.
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post #17053 of 18935
5/17/11 at 2:38pm
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Originally Posted by trpltongue View Post

I recall that a while back, the only way you could get system audio from the spdif connector was if you had Dolby Digital live. Normal SPDIF would output compressed dolby digital (i.e. bitstreamed from a movie), but not uncompressed multichannel (i.e. surround sound from abc.com or hulu) from the system. Windows sounds, etc. wouldn't be sent through SPDIF.

Dolby Digital Live encoded these sounds into a Dolby Digital bitstream and then the receiver would decode them.

I just want to make sure that when I hook up the SPDIF connector from the motherboard to my receiver that I will get all windows sounds, website sounds, movie bitstreams, etc.

Optical out is digital, I have my PC optical toslink to my receiver everything work perfectly, either if it s movie or windows stuffs or internet videos. My receiver even detect a specific encoding too like DTS or Dolby digital, etc etc. So I dont know where you get the idea of of the optical/spdif wont play windows sounds except movie.
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post #17054 of 18935
5/17/11 at 3:47pm
What motherboard are you using?

This post on Tom's Hardware had me confused.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/278736-28-sound-spdif

I've only ever had motherboards with DDlive so I'm not sure what to expect with a non DDL motherboard.
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post #17055 of 18935
5/17/11 at 6:08pm
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Originally Posted by trpltongue View Post

What motherboard are you using?

This post on Tom's Hardware had me confused.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/278736-28-sound-spdif

I've only ever had motherboards with DDlive so I'm not sure what to expect with a non DDL motherboard.

lol those people are noobs. They didn't set the windows sound setting correctly. Simple things and yet its so hard for some people. Also you got retards giving advices, the internet can help you or it can't give you wrong info. Anyway for my HTPC i have a old motherboard and cpu on the PC i built way back, which is Evga 680SLI and Intel e6850, OLD SCHOOL . All i did was bought a Silverstone HTPC case and 8TB worth of hard drives.


BTW "Dolby Digital Live" is more for games. You you got it all wrong on the info what it does.
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post #17056 of 18935
5/17/11 at 6:30pm
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Originally Posted by charlievoviii View Post

lol those people are noobs. They didn't set the windows sound setting correctly. Simple things and yet its so hard for some people. Also you got retards giving advices, the internet can help you or it can't give you wrong info. Anyway for my HTPC i have a old motherboard and cpu on the PC i built way back, which is Evga 680SLI and Intel e6850, OLD SCHOOL . All i did was bought a Silverstone HTPC case and 8TB worth of hard drives.


BTW "Dolby Digital Live" is more for games. You you got it all wrong on the info what it does.

Thanks for the info! It's tough to find a straight answer on what the capabilities are.

On looking though, your motherboard does have Dolby Digital Live encoding on it though doesn't it? I have an nforce board with DDL and I just don't know what a non DDL motherboard will do.
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post #17057 of 18935
5/17/11 at 7:12pm
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DDL/DTSI is a real-time DD/DTS encoding technology. This is mainly used to get surround sounds from games via S/PDIF. (Games produce multichannel LPCM, but there is no way to send it over S/PDIF without first converting it to DD or DTS.) Actually DDL comes as a part of Dolby Home Theater in GIGABYTE mbs, that supports more. I am not sure if they are really useful.

Almost every movie (BD/DVD) has DD or DTS audio track (in addition to HD audio). So you won't need DDL/DTSI.
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post #17058 of 18935
5/17/11 at 7:24pm
renethx,

Thanks for clearing that up a bit. I'm still curious about online videos though? Things like hulu, hbogo.com, abc, youtube, etc. and the general windows sounds. I'm assuming that these online videos have surround sound (perhaps incorrectly) and I doubt that it's encoded in DD.
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post #17059 of 18935
5/17/11 at 8:18pm
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Perhaps audio from Internet streaming contents is either stereo or Dolby Digital (Plus?). So S/PDIF supports them fine.
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post #17060 of 18935
5/18/11 at 12:42am
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

Perhaps audio from Internet streaming contents is either stereo or Dolby Digital (Plus?). So S/PDIF supports them fine.

yep, my stuff works perfectly. I use S/pdif toslink from my htpc to my receiver and never have sound issues.
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post #17061 of 18935
5/18/11 at 12:48am
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Originally Posted by trpltongue View Post

Thanks for the info! It's tough to find a straight answer on what the capabilities are.

On looking though, your motherboard does have Dolby Digital Live encoding on it though doesn't it? I have an nforce board with DDL and I just don't know what a non DDL motherboard will do.

i don't think so. Its a onboard REALtek sound chip. If you feel any better my laptop have some cheap onboard soundcard with also spdif toslink out and it works no issues. Like is said, digital is digital. So doesn't matter what you sent to your receiver, it should detect it no issues.

The only time really you need a sound card is if you want the better or best analog sound. But that is not an issues here since you are sending Digital signal "S/PDIF to a receiver, so the receiver doing the work and output to your speakers. Onboard sound chips need to use CPU cycles to process sound, but very little load is put on the CPU.
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post #17062 of 18935
5/18/11 at 5:08am
Charlievoviii and renethx,

Thanks so much for the help! I'm looking forward to watching video with no tearing and stuttering
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post #17063 of 18935
5/18/11 at 5:35am
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Originally Posted by trpltongue View Post

Charlievoviii and renethx,

Thanks so much for the help! I'm looking forward to watching video with no tearing and stuttering

Np, this is why this community is great. BTW my wife originally from Southwest Houston, TX Sugarland area. Hers family still there. I'm from Los Angeles, CA.
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post #17064 of 18935
5/18/11 at 5:47am
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Originally Posted by charlievoviii View Post


yep, my stuff works perfectly. I use S/pdif toslink from my htpc to my receiver and never have sound issues.

Except for no hd audio
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post #17065 of 18935
5/18/11 at 6:30am
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Except for no hd audio

be more specific please, what do you mean by HD audio ? As far as I know the only thing you can't do is sent TrueHD or DTS-MA
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post #17066 of 18935
5/18/11 at 6:44am
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Originally Posted by charlievoviii View Post


be more specific please, what do you mean by HD audio ? As far as I know the only thing you can't do is sent TrueHD or DTS-MA

Yes, that's what I mean.
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post #17067 of 18935
5/18/11 at 7:00am
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Yes, that's what I mean.

Well saying it can't play HD is total difference than saying it can't play TrueHD.
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post #17068 of 18935
5/18/11 at 7:06am
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Originally Posted by charlievoviii View Post

Well saying it can't play HD is total difference than saying it can't play TrueHD.

Thats whay its called, HD audio. It also can only do 2 channel lpcm. No 5.1 when it comes to lpcm.
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post #17069 of 18935
5/18/11 at 7:54am
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Originally Posted by Superman2 View Post

Hi folks...

Complete newbie here, but here goes.

So i'm looking to build a HTPC that will also handle doing quality movie editing/rendering... I haven't looked thought this thread yet but I picked up the latest Maximum PC issue "How to build the perfect PC" and was going to follow their HTPC build (with a few minor adjustments).

Since this is my first time, would their build be a good option to follow? (if no one has seen the issue, nevermind).

Any suggestions??
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post #17070 of 18935
5/18/11 at 7:57am
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I haven't seen the issue.
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