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post #18271 of 19097
Thank you so much renethx. I was going to buy a PicoPSU for a different mini-itx mobo, but when I saw the DH61AG, it allowed me to use an external brick directly. The intention is to try out the igpu of the i3-2100, but add a HD 5670 if needed. Will let you know how I go....

Thanks again.
post #18272 of 19097
Hello everyone, please help to choose right one. Most important are noiseless and power consumption.

1.
AMD A8 3870 Black Edition Unlocked 3.0 GHz + integrated ATI Radeon 6550D (TDP 100W)
ASUS F1A75-M PRO

2.
Intel Pentium Dual Core G850 2.9GHz (TDP 65W)
MSI Z68MA-ED55
ATI Radeon 6570 (TDP 44W)

Any opinions?
post #18273 of 19097
I am slowly building an HTPC after picking up a used Hauppauge 1212 HD-PVR. I'm looking through the thread and getting some great information. I already have installed MediaPortal on my regular PC and by running a USB cable through a wall, I can record from the satellite box and it looks great.

I need a good GPU and I see a lot of them recommended. I found these two and they are both mentioned often in this thread.

#1> MSI GeForce GT 430 - 2024MB, DDR3 $80 plus a $15 rebate

#2>Visiontek Radeon HD 5670 - 1024MB DDR5 $100

So I guess my question is... Is a 1G DDR5 card card $20 better (or $35 better if I remember to send that dang rebate in!) for HTPC than a 2G DDR3 card? ...Which one would you get?
post #18274 of 19097
I have purchased your guide and find it very informative. I'm starting to put together an Intel build, and although AMD has it's advantages I am morally obligated to stick with Intel. I'm also thinking of adding a video card instead of using on board and an audio card as well because I DJ on the side and will run Virtual DJ to compile my music lists on this machine then transfer them to my DJ rig . Will also add a Blu Ray later on. I would like your opinion on this build;

Intel i3-2120
GIGABYTE GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 (Is this the right choice seeing that I'm not utilizing the on board graphics? If not, I would prefer to stick with an Asus or Gigabyte boards for alternatives).
Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARS 1TB 5400 RPM
Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W
LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk
Video Card: either GT 430/440 or HD 6570/6670
Sound Card: Need the digital out thingy (S/PDIF?) and really reasonable price. Have not bought a sound card in years so am out of the loop on what is good these days.

Thanks in advance
post #18275 of 19097
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by scoot13 View Post

I am slowly building an HTPC after picking up a used Hauppauge 1212 HD-PVR. I'm looking through the thread and getting some great information. I already have installed MediaPortal on my regular PC and by running a USB cable through a wall, I can record from the satellite box and it looks great.

I need a good GPU and I see a lot of them recommended. I found these two and they are both mentioned often in this thread.

#1> MSI GeForce GT 430 - 2024MB, DDR3 $80 plus a $15 rebate

#2>Visiontek Radeon HD 5670 - 1024MB DDR5 $100

So I guess my question is... Is a 1G DDR5 card card $20 better (or $35 better if I remember to send that dang rebate in!) for HTPC than a 2G DDR3 card? ...Which one would you get?

There are several cheaper G430 cards such as GALAXY, $30 AR, ASUS, $40 AR, ECS, $45 AR. 1GB RAM is enough for video playback. Make sure to choose memory effective speed 1600MHz or higher.

HD 5670 is better than GT 430 in gaming, but you'd better buy a HD 6670 GDDR5, that's cheaper (SAPPHIRE $82 AR) and better.
post #18276 of 19097
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dookeran_3 View Post

I have purchased your guide and find it very informative. I'm starting to put together an Intel build, and although AMD has it's advantages I am morally obligated to stick with Intel. I'm also thinking of adding a video card instead of using on board and an audio card as well because I DJ on the side and will run Virtual DJ to compile my music lists on this machine then transfer them to my DJ rig . Will also add a Blu Ray later on. I would like your opinion on this build;

Intel i3-2120
GIGABYTE GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 (Is this the right choice seeing that I'm not utilizing the on board graphics? If not, I would prefer to stick with an Asus or Gigabyte boards for alternatives).
Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EARS 1TB 5400 RPM
Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W
LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk
Video Card: either GT 430/440 or HD 6570/6670
Sound Card: Need the digital out thingy (S/PDIF?) and really reasonable price. Have not bought a sound card in years so am out of the loop on what is good these days.

Thanks in advance

Should be good.

You can use onboard audio (I don't know specific requirements by your software, though).
post #18277 of 19097
Which card of those listed would you recommend? I'm mostly streaming video from internet (Veetle, Justin), downloaded movies (using Nero 11) and general purpose computing. Was hoping that a better video card will help with the picture quality for streaming. Also will be using Windows 7 64 bit.
post #18278 of 19097
Thread Starter 
GT 430/HD 6570 (both DDR3) is good enough for video playback. HD 6670 is better for gaming.
post #18279 of 19097
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

GT 430/HD 6570 (both DDR3) is good enough for video playback. HD 6670 is better for gaming.

What about the fanless 6670 w/DDR3?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161392

Also, is there really a difference in overall PQ between the GT430 and 6670? I thought I read somewhere that ATI cards have better overall PQ, color, rendering, etc...
post #18280 of 19097
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

There are several cheaper G430 cards such as GALAXY, $30 AR, ASUS, $40 AR, ECS, $45 AR. 1GB RAM is enough for video playback. Make sure to choose memory effective speed 1600MHz or higher.

HD 5670 is better than GT 430 in gaming, but you'd better buy a HD 6670 GDDR5, that's cheaper (SAPPHIRE $82 AR) and better.

Thanks for the clear answer and recommendations. Most all of the DDR5 cards are 1000 memory effective speed. I assume that is okay with DDR5?
post #18281 of 19097
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tooler40 View Post

What about the fanless 6670 w/DDR3?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161392

Also, is there really a difference in overall PQ between the GT430 and 6670? I thought I read somewhere that ATI cards have better overall PQ, color, rendering, etc...

GDDR5 is faster than DDR3. You will have more, fancier post-processors with HD 6670 GDDR5 than HD 6670 DDR3, HD 6670 DDR3 than GT 430.
post #18282 of 19097
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Originally Posted by scoot13 View Post

Thanks for the clear answer and recommendations. Most all of the DDR5 cards are 1000 memory effective speed. I assume that is okay with DDR5?

There is no DDR5 yet (DDR4 is under development). Only GDDR5 (based on DDR3 technology). The "effective" speed of GDDR5 is usually 3000MHz--4000MHz. That of DDR3 is 1000MHz--2000MHz.
post #18283 of 19097
Hi - I just donated for the latest issue and was wondering if I could please get some feedback on this system I'm thinking of building. This will be a HTPC running Windows 7 for watching live tv and recording tv (through a HDHomeRun) and then playing a library of ripped Blurays in MKV format. I'm trying to run everything through Windows Media Center and with a Logitech Harmony remote. I'll need some extra cpu cycles for some webcam monitoring software and maybe some other home automation stuff.

[CPU+GPU] AMD A8-3850
[MOBO] Gigabyte A75M-UD2H
[MEMORY] Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600
[CASE] Silverstone ML03B
[PSU] Antec EA-380D


I'd like to get the system as quiet as possible, so I'm not sure if the stock CPU cooler will work for that. I went for a slightly faster APU as I'd like to not have to buy a dedicated GPU card.
post #18284 of 19097
Thread Starter 
@Ferrino

The max height of CPU cooler allowed inside the case is 70mm. A couple of these coolers:

- Scythe Shuriken 64mm
- Scythe BIG Shuriken 58mm (the inner two DIMMs will be blocked)
- Prolimatech Samuel 17 45mm + Scythe Slip Stream Slim 120 mm Case Fan SY1212SL12H 12mm.
post #18285 of 19097
What do you guys think of the i3-2120 3ghz in an Antec ISK300-150
Would there be enough room for the cpu fan? I can't find the i3 2100T anywhere.

I also need 8GB Ram to go with the Asus P8H61-I mobo that I'm getting. DDR3-1333. Could you guys point out which one from this site goes well with the Asus P8H61-I
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...24_311_312_611
post #18286 of 19097
Renethx, have you or anyone else here used this: http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/fan_control/sentry_lx ?

The last guide I have of yours is from middle of last year so I apologize if you've added it to any recent ones, but just curious. It looks quite handy and fancy-schmancy for a server.
post #18287 of 19097
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Originally Posted by boxterduke View Post

What do you guys think of the i3-2120 3ghz in an Antec ISK300-150
Would there be enough room for the cpu fan? I can't find the i3 2100T anywhere.

I also need 8GB Ram to go with the Asus P8H61-I mobo that I'm getting. DDR3-1333. Could you guys point out which one from this site goes well with the Asus P8H61-I
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...24_311_312_611

Yes, the cooler fits the case fine. "T" version is pointless.

This kit should work.

BTW why do you need 8GB? Unless you edit videos/photos for example, 4GB is enough and the remaining 4GB will be wasted. Core i3-2105+Z68+DDR3-2133 2x2GB is a golden combination for HTPC.
post #18288 of 19097
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Originally Posted by boldaslove View Post

Renethx, have you or anyone else here used this: http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/fan_control/sentry_lx ?

No.
post #18289 of 19097
Quote:
Originally Posted by renethx View Post

Yes, the cooler fits the case fine. "T" version is pointless.
This kit should work.
BTW why do you need 8GB? Unless you edit videos/photos for example, 4GB is enough and the remaining 4GB will be wasted. Core i3-2105+Z68+DDR3-2133 2x2GB is a golden combination for HTPC.

Thanks for the reply. I might do some ripping on the computer and since there is not much difference in price then why not
For the ram you picked, do you think the Ripjaws would fit the Antec ISK300-150?

==

Seeing your suggestion on a Core i3-2105+Z68+DDR3-2133
Could you recommend a z68 mobo and DDR3-2133 ram? From newegg.ca preferably.

Thanks
post #18290 of 19097
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke View Post

For the ram you picked, do you think the Ripjaws would fit the Antec ISK300-150?

Yes. (BTW "need" implies "necessity", that's why I wondered.)

There are only two choices, either ASRock or ZOTAC. I recommend ASRock. Any DDR3-2133 2 x 2GB kit is OK.
post #18291 of 19097
@renethx

I think your guide is fantastic and I'm wondering when you'll be releasing the latest edition?
post #18292 of 19097
Thread Starter 
I am going to release it (Dec '11+Jan '12) by the end of this month.
post #18293 of 19097
Quote:
Originally Posted by renethx View Post

Yes, the cooler fits the case fine. "T" version is pointless.

This kit should work.

BTW why do you need 8GB? Unless you edit videos/photos for example, 4GB is enough and the remaining 4GB will be wasted. Core i3-2105+Z68+DDR3-2133 2x2GB is a golden combination for HTPC.

Hello Renethx,

I recently saw the I3-2125 CPU, which is similar to the I3-2105 above but has the on die HD3000 and slightly faster. I realize you are constantly working to improve your guides, and wonder what your thoughts would be on the I3-2125 CPU.

Thank you.

Tom
post #18294 of 19097
Thread Starter 
2125 is slightly faster in the processor part (3.3GHz vs 3.1GHz), but that's not important in video playback. Graphics is identical. So you can go with either of 2105 ($130) or 2125 ($140).
post #18295 of 19097
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

2125 is slightly faster in the processor part (3.3GHz vs 3.1GHz), but that's not important in video playback. Graphics is identical. So you can go with either of 2105 ($130) or 2125 ($140).

Thank you. I evidently missed the 2105 has the same graphics.
post #18296 of 19097
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

Yes. (BTW "need" implies "necessity", that's why I wondered.)
There are only two choices, either ASRock or ZOTAC. I recommend ASRock. Any DDR3-2133 2 x 2GB kit is OK.

Quote:
Originally Posted by renethx View Post

I am going to release it (Dec '11+Jan '12) by the end of this month.

Thanks for the help renethx. And I'm going to get your latest guide

I always come back to this thread, it has helped me last year when I was building my main HTPC. Keep up the good work.
post #18297 of 19097
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

This method works with almost every microATX/ATX case with multiple fans.

renethx,

Thanks for this suggestion. I installed tonight, and it has made a drastic difference. I am hoping that it doesn't get warm and quit working, like some of the reviews stated, but otherwise it was a brilliant solution.

Thanks!!!
post #18298 of 19097
I have done a lot of reading her and reviews on other sites. I have decided on my build and will probably buy assasins guide for software setup.

My build :
silverstone GD05 case

Intel I5 2500k cpu

PSU: Seasonic x660

Mobo: ASUS Maximus IV Gen-z/Gen3

SDD: crucial M4 128%+

HDD: WDgreen 3TB

RAM: Kingston Hyper-x 8GB

Gpu: MSI HD6670

I think that's it for now. Any recomendations for a cpu cooler?
post #18299 of 19097
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Originally Posted by bent240lv View Post

I have done a lot of reading her and reviews on other sites. I have decided on my build and will probably buy assasins guide for software setup.

My build :
silverstone GD05 case

Intel I5 2500k cpu

PSU: Seasonic x660

Mobo: ASUS Maximus IV Gen-z/Gen3

SDD: crucial M4 128%+

HDD: WDgreen 3TB

RAM: Kingston Hyper-x 8GB

Gpu: MSI HD6670

I think that's it for now. Any recomendations for a cpu cooler?

The 2500k cooler that comes stock should work fine and be quiet.

I have a spare if you want to grab it cheap.

I replaced my 2600k cooler with Coolermaster EVO 212+ It's light years better- but if your not overclocking don't worry about it.





http://www.maximumpc.com/article/%5B...212_evo_review

here is the review:

basically no $30 cooler can touch it.

I have a coolermaster Cosmos II case though.. if your case is small might want to check the clearance.
post #18300 of 19097
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bent240lv View Post

Any recomendations for a cpu cooler?

You have to be careful in selecting a cooler, the max height inside GD05 is only 70mm. One of the best coolers for a quad-core processor in GD05 is Prolimatech Samuel 17 + Kaze Maru2.
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