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post #3031 of 18891
Hi guys,

I have built the following HTPC (gaming/movies):

Asus P5Q-E
Intel Q9550 (stock cooler)
4Gb Corsair Dominator DDR2 1066
Asus HD4850 1gb DDr3 w/Glaciator heatsink
1Tb Samsung (50gb OS partition)
LC Power 650W Ozeanos 140mm V2.2 (modular)
Thermaltake DH101 (no lcd version)

This is hooked up by HDMI to my Panny TH42PZ70 plasma.

The built went smoothly, apart from figuring out how to boot with both Ram sticks. Bios update, changed slot for one stick, and everything boots fine.

Then... enter the nightmare time.

Installed Vista64, Mobo drivers - all good n' smooth

I noticed some image corruption (vertical red dots columns along the screen), which I thought would go away with the Gfx drivers....

Installed the latest 8.8 Ati drivers and all hell broke loose. I was still able to pull the resolution up to the Panny's native 1900x1200 @60hz. The screen corruption then got quite worse, with vertical lines all over the place.

Tried to reboot and... BSODed. Went to safe mode, remove the drivers, reboot and... no go. The best I get is a totally distorted desktop, which goes blank after a few minutes. That or BSOD on boot.

I did manage to check the temps: 53C on idle... i don't think thats the problem.

So I really need help, please
post #3032 of 18891
Quote:
Originally Posted by renethx View Post

Basically a good selection. Where is the drive for OS?

Very Speedy Rene!
In the long run I'll get a pair of green drives for the O/S and mirror them. I'll also setup the media drives as RAID-0 and just backup anything important to some remote storage.

But right now i just plan to use 3 drives in RAID-5 (using motherboard controller RAID). I'll partition up stuff for Windows, Linux and Media and use that for a while. It'll let me get a feel for how much storage I need where.

The reason for all of this complication is:
1) Don't like being at the mercy of MB RAID - the disk layout is proprietory and could make it hard to get data back if MB controller dies. ie new controller might not recognise your raid set.
2) I'll setup the disks with different profiles, to put them to sleep when not being used.

I've done a bit more research and can't see any great value in the P5Q Deluxe. So I'll go with the P5Q-E and save a few $.

Thanks for the huge amount of input throughout - I love this thread!

Do you think the audio from ASUS 'HD' onboard audio (ADI AD2000B) is upto scratch for playing music or would your recommend a separate card?
post #3033 of 18891
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy987s View Post

Do you think the audio from ASUS 'HD' onboard audio (ADI AD2000B) is upto scratch for playing music or would your recommend a separate card?

Which do you use, analog or S/PDIF?
post #3034 of 18891
renethx,

I have right now,

Abit IP 35 e
4 gigs of Crucial
GF 8600gts
c2d 6420 Intel
Vista Ult 32 bit SP1

I can play everything fine except 1080p mkv files. 720 play fine but the 1080p are jerky and the audio is off by several seconds. I have searched and tried everything to no avail. Using VMC, ZP, KMP, FFDSHOW etc.

Would going to a c2d 8400 help?

thanks, Sam
post #3035 of 18891
Is there any way to move/hide the mouse (in Vista)? Hotkeys, WSH/VBS, anything. It's annoying that often, after switching back to the HTPC with something like MediaPortal running, the mouse won't hide anymore.
post #3036 of 18891
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sepen View Post

renethx,

I have right now,

Abit IP 35 e
4 gigs of Crucial
GF 8600gts
c2d 6420 Intel
Vista Ult 32 bit SP1

I can play everything fine except 1080p mkv files. 720 play fine but the 1080p are jerky and the audio is off by several seconds. I have searched and tried everything to no avail. Using VMC, ZP, KMP, FFDSHOW etc.

Would going to a c2d 8400 help?

thanks, Sam

C2D 6420 2.13GHz is too slow to play some 1080p mkv files. C2D E8400 3.00GHz should help, but smooth playback may not be guaranteed as the cause of your problem may not be simply the insufficient CPU power.

Try overclock your processor to around 2.66GHz (or more): in BIOS setup, select

- SoftMenu Setup > CPU Operating Speed > External Clock: 333MHz
- SoftMenu Setup > CPU Operating Speed > DRAM Speed (CPURAM): 1:1.20

Check CPU/memory frequency with CPU-Z (should be 2666.7MHz/400MHz respectively) and see if your problems are fixed.
post #3037 of 18891
Quote:
Originally Posted by renethx View Post

C2D 6420 2.13GHz is too slow to play some 1080p mkv files. C2D E8400 3.00GHz should help, but smooth playback may not be guaranteed as the cause of your problem may not be simply the insufficient CPU power.

Try overclock your processor to around 2.66GHz (or more): in BIOS setup, select

- SoftMenu Setup > CPU Operating Speed > External Clock: 333MHz
- SoftMenu Setup > CPU Operating Speed > DRAM Speed (CPURAM): 1:1.20

Check CPU/memory frequency with CPU-Z (should be 2666.7MHz/400MHz respectively) and see if your problems are fixed.

Haha, you kidding me, did as you said and it runs the files perfectly. No stuttering and no lip synch issues. So, should I keep it as is or go for the 8400? Thanks a ton!!!!
post #3038 of 18891
Quote:
Originally Posted by renethx View Post

Which do you use, analog or S/PDIF?

My amp has optical S/PDIF inputs and the ASUS P5Q-E has S/PDIF on the port panel. So my plan is to try out the onboard sound.

Oh ****, I just found out the SPDIF is not supported for the chipset on the P5Q-E which appears to be a 1989b rather than the ADI AD2000B that ASUS say it is - sigh (http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-use.../msg22831.html).

Well I could fill the last accessible slot, which means finding a PCIe card with SPDIF output supported by linux.

Getting tough again.
post #3039 of 18891
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sepen View Post

Haha, you kidding me, did as you said and it runs the files perfectly. No stuttering and no lip synch issues. So, should I keep it as is or go for the 8400? Thanks a ton!!!!

Most C2D run at 3.0GHz with no problem. Keep it.
post #3040 of 18891
i want to know if Pheonm 9950 or 9850 and 790gx board good or not.

for deinterlancing and stuff etc.
post #3041 of 18891
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

i want to know if Pheonm 9950 or 9850 and 790gx board good or not.

for deinterlancing and stuff etc.

Good.
post #3042 of 18891
I have attempted to use my HTPC to play DTS music off of CD. I have not been able to find a player yet that will do this. Any suggestions? I am using my s/pdif out and some of the music is in 5.1 so the player needs to be able to deal with that.
post #3043 of 18891
I will like to start by thanking all this forum members in advance. I am home theater enthusiast who wants to get the absolute best picture (blue Ray included) and sound out of my TV and stereo system; price is not a consideration for now so if you could give me the absolute best, I can always scale down as needed.

I will like to be able to hookup an HTPC system that I want to build to my stereo by means of HTMI to HTMI from the HTPC to my preamp “Anthem D2” my system as it stands is the following:

Dali speakers
Euphonia MS4, euphonia CS4, euphonia AS2, euphonia phantom
Anthem D2
Cary Audio Model 7.125
Pioneer 50" 1080p Flat Panel Plasma HDTV - PDP5010FD

After considerable times spend reading these site the HTPC system components I am thinking:

Mother board
First choice
ASUS P5Q-EM,
Foxconn A7DA-S 790GX
ASRock 4Core1333-FullHD HTPC
Considerations
GIGABYTE GA-MA790FX-DS5 AMDMSI K9A2 Platinum Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H
ASUS M3N78-EMH HDMI, M3N-H/HDMI, M3N78 PRO, M3N78-EM, M3N-HD/HDMI
AMD 790FX chipset ATX, $212.
MSI K9A2 Platinum AMD 790FX chipset ATX,MSI K9N2 Diamond, MSI P7N Diamon
LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
GA-EP45-DQ6 and GA-EP45-DS5
Processor (CPU)
I really will like someone’s opinion on this I do not have any preference—I will be running Windows Vista 64
Sound cards
Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 and daughter board I want a card that is PAP/PAVP compatible
Graphic Cards
Radeon HD 4870
Fan
CPU FAN: Zalman CNPS9500
Memory
Please recommend I hear Corsair is a plus
Power supply
Enermax MODU82+ 625W (EMD625AWT)
Case
Moneual MonCaso 972
Blue Ray drive
I am thinking of the LG

Concerns and considerations
I want to be able to use one wire that hooks HTMI to HTMI that caries both audio and video at 24p and PAP compatible. Can I wire the audio and video to one HDMI output and want about the HDMI output that is in the mother board I am not sure how it will work or will there be a conflict?
My first choice was the ASUS P5Q-EM, but I notice that it limited room and the audio card and daughter board will take two slots, the graphic card will take another two with no room for extension. If I want to add a storage system there will be no room for a server, or I want to add something else it will not be possible I was considering the Foxconn A7DA-S 790GX as an option but have not heard many reviews on this card. They said that the case could take a full size motherboard.
Any help will be greatly appreciated on any aspect of any part of building this HTPC.

Thanks

Fred
post #3044 of 18891
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunshine108j View Post

I will like to start by thanking all this forum members in advance. I am home theater enthusiast who wants to get the absolute best picture (blue Ray included) and sound out of my TV and stereo system; price is not a consideration for now so if you could give me the absolute best, I can always scale down as needed.

I will like to be able to hookup an HTPC system that I want to build to my stereo by means of HTMI to HTMI from the HTPC to my preamp Anthem D2 my system as it stands is the following:

Dali speakers
Euphonia MS4, euphonia CS4, euphonia AS2, euphonia phantom
Anthem D2
Cary Audio Model 7.125
Pioneer 50" 1080p Flat Panel Plasma HDTV - PDP5010FD

After considerable times spend reading these site the HTPC system components I am thinking:

Mother board
First choice
ASUS P5Q-EM,
Foxconn A7DA-S 790GX
ASRock 4Core1333-FullHD HTPC
Considerations
GIGABYTE GA-MA790FX-DS5 AMDMSI K9A2 Platinum Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H
ASUS M3N78-EMH HDMI, M3N-H/HDMI, M3N78 PRO, M3N78-EM, M3N-HD/HDMI
AMD 790FX chipset ATX, $212.
MSI K9A2 Platinum AMD 790FX chipset ATX,MSI K9N2 Diamond, MSI P7N Diamon
LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard
GA-EP45-DQ6 and GA-EP45-DS5
Processor (CPU)
I really will like someone's opinion on this I do not have any preferenceI will be running Windows Vista 64
Sound cards
Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 and daughter board I want a card that is PAP/PAVP compatible
Graphic Cards
Radeon HD 4870
Fan
CPU FAN: Zalman CNPS9500
Memory
Please recommend I hear Corsair is a plus
Power supply
Enermax MODU82+ 625W (EMD625AWT)
Case
Moneual MonCaso 972
Blue Ray drive
I am thinking of the LG

Concerns and considerations
I want to be able to use one wire that hooks HTMI to HTMI that caries both audio and video at 24p and PAP compatible. Can I wire the audio and video to one HDMI output and want about the HDMI output that is in the mother board I am not sure how it will work or will there be a conflict?
My first choice was the ASUS P5Q-EM, but I notice that it limited room and the audio card and daughter board will take two slots, the graphic card will take another two with no room for extension. If I want to add a storage system there will be no room for a server, or I want to add something else it will not be possible I was considering the Foxconn A7DA-S 790GX as an option but have not heard many reviews on this card. They said that the case could take a full size motherboard.
Any help will be greatly appreciated on any aspect of any part of building this HTPC.

The upcoming (September 10) Radeon HD 4650 is very good for HTPC: the same UVD2 and the same post-processing as HD 4850/4870, with a reduced number of stream processors [320 vs. 800], thus reduced power consumption (save 50W or more at idle as compared with 4850/4870).

- Radeon HD 4650
- ASUS Xonar HDAV1.3

You don't need to go with mATX. There are lots of good ATX mbs. See my ATX recommendations. The Foxconn board is surely a very good choice.

If MonCaso 972 has the same internal structure as 932, then LG GGC-H20N combo drive hits the mb. The depth of the drive should be < 180mm.
post #3045 of 18891
Thank you for your help

I just call ASUS and I do not think I will have problems using ASUS P5Q - EM motherboard and the other thing they share with me is that audio card DX2 is a newer and better card then the Asus Xonar HDAV ? any comments ?
I call the case people and they have not return my call yet, but my gut feeling is that it will be the same size, is there another combo drive that you can recommend? If this is true.

Thanks
Fred
post #3046 of 18891
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunshine108j View Post

I just call ASUS and I do not think I will have problems using ASUS P5Q - EM motherboard and the other thing they share with me is that audio card DX2 is a newer and better card then the Asus Xonar HDAV ? any comments ?
I call the case people and they have not return my call yet, but my gut feeling is that it will be the same size, is there another combo drive that you can recommend? If this is true.

P5Q-EM has a limited number of expansion slots. You'd better go with ATX if you use an ATX case.

Xonar D2X was released in December 2007, absolutely no support for PAP or HDMI, while HDAV1.3 has not been released yet, supporting PAP, Dolby TrueHD/DTS-HD MA bitstreams/multichannel LPCM over HDMI. Perhpas the person you talked to has never heard of HDAV1.3?

I don't know a combo drive other than LG.
post #3047 of 18891
Thank you for the feedback, this person sounded like he knew both products well, but I will go with your advice and stick to the original Xonar HDAV1.3 then. Can you give me the best high-end motherboard you can think for my system so many I have looked at I am not sure which way to go.

Thanks


Fred
post #3048 of 18891
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunshine108j View Post

Thank you for the feedback, this person sounded like he knew both products well, but I will go with your advice and stick to the original Xonar HDAV1.3 then. Can you give me the best high-end motherboard you can think for my system so many I have looked at I am not sure which way to go.

There is no clear choice. I prefer ASUS P5Q-E or P5Q Deluxe (better heatsink, more accessories)
post #3049 of 18891
Renethx,

Thanks for your previous response. I am finalizing my Premium system and had a couple last questions. First, I am not a PC guy but have discovered I know more than the custom installers I have used in the past and can crack open a PC so I apologize if my questions seem lame.

1). I am going to populate the CW02 case with 4 Greenpower WD 1 Tb drives and therefore utilize the onboard RAID in RAID 5 for these 4 drives. I may go with more external drives as well. My question then, should I go with your recommended system drive, get two of them and use RAID 0 on the purple Gigabyte eSATA ports or get one Velociraptor 300 instead? This system will be used to stream as much as three HD signals to extenders in the house as well as be the direct connection to my TivotoGo program, and the primary unit in the Theater. I also intend to play some games, after the little dudes are asleep. Finally, it will be used to render home movies and render other material as well. So, it's going to get a pretty constant workout. Knowing this, would you go with two drives, one screaming fast one, or the drive you recommend?

2). Here is my rookie RAID question. Should I put the Blu Ray on a yellow port (not part of the array, of course) or if I get only one drive should I put the Blu Ray on the purple ports? Again, non array. Does it matter? Should I stick the primary drive as well on the yellow port and place it in the lowest number so it boots from there? I also said it is best to flash the ports correctly for RAID at initial install even if you don't actually set up an array. Your opinion? In reading Gigabyte material and blogs my understanding is the purple ports are theoretically better/faster. Is this correct?

3). As it stands, I intend to use Vista Media Center with TMT. From my reading, it appears that only the HDHomerun will work for QAM & Vista Media Center. I get royally confused when I read about the new plug in to allow other tuners to work. I hear that its only for OEM stuff. Do you know if I should go with the HDHomerun or do you recommend another tuner that will then work with the upcoming changes to Vista Media Center and if in fact we little people will be able to get the changed Media Center fix?

I ask this because of all things, I was swinging one of my munchkins at the park on Sunday here in WA and a guy from Boston (of all places) who owns the company that sells OrigenAE equipment (second distributor), was swinging his grandkid and he said he was on his way to CEDIA. He had been assured that multiple tuners were out there that would indeed work with Windows Media Center (latest fix) and that end consumers like me would soon be able to download the Vista Media Center fix. As I researched cases, I had been to his web site and looked at his info. It is a small, small world. Do you have an opinion or advice on the tuner mess? I have room for the HDHomerun unit so it doesn't really matter except it would be nice to get a cleaner setup and one less cable and power.

4). With all six bays filled, should I populate the two 92mm drive fans or leave them empty? If yes, what fans? The system is in a fairly good air flow power ventilated cabinet. The only other quite hot product is my B&K receiver which I intend to place a foot above the PC. The B&K can damn near cook an egg when cranked.

I appreciate any help as I really don't want to spend all this money and have the flipping thing not work with QAM and not be able to handle a lot of activity.
post #3050 of 18891
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeattleHTGuy View Post

Renethx,

Thanks for your previous response. I am finalizing my Premium system and had a couple last questions. First, I am not a PC guy but have discovered I know more than the custom installers I have used in the past and can crack open a PC so I apologize if my questions seem lame.

1). I am going to populate the CW02 case with 4 Greenpower WD 1 Tb drives and therefore utilize the onboard RAID in RAID 5 for these 4 drives. I may go with more external drives as well. My question then, should I go with your recommended system drive, get two of them and use RAID 0 on the purple Gigabyte eSATA ports or get one Velociraptor 300 instead? This system will be used to stream as much as three HD signals to extenders in the house as well as be the direct connection to my TivotoGo program, and the primary unit in the Theater. I also intend to play some games, after the little dudes are asleep. Finally, it will be used to render home movies and render other material as well. So, it's going to get a pretty constant workout. Knowing this, would you go with two drives, one screaming fast one, or the drive you recommend?

2). Here is my rookie RAID question. Should I put the Blu Ray on a yellow port (not part of the array, of course) or if I get only one drive should I put the Blu Ray on the purple ports? Again, non array. Does it matter? Should I stick the primary drive as well on the yellow port and place it in the lowest number so it boots from there? I also said it is best to flash the ports correctly for RAID at initial install even if you don't actually set up an array. Your opinion? In reading Gigabyte material and blogs my understanding is the purple ports are theoretically better/faster. Is this correct?

3). As it stands, I intend to use Vista Media Center with TMT. From my reading, it appears that only the HDHomerun will work for QAM & Vista Media Center. I get royally confused when I read about the new plug in to allow other tuners to work. I hear that its only for OEM stuff. Do you know if I should go with the HDHomerun or do you recommend another tuner that will then work with the upcoming changes to Vista Media Center and if in fact we little people will be able to get the changed Media Center fix?

I ask this because of all things, I was swinging one of my munchkins at the park on Sunday here in WA and a guy from Boston (of all places) who owns the company that sells OrigenAE equipment (second distributor), was swinging his grandkid and he said he was on his way to CEDIA. He had been assured that multiple tuners were out there that would indeed work with Windows Media Center (latest fix) and that end consumers like me would soon be able to download the Vista Media Center fix. As I researched cases, I had been to his web site and looked at his info. It is a small, small world. Do you have an opinion or advice on the tuner mess? I have room for the HDHomerun unit so it doesn't really matter except it would be nice to get a cleaner setup and one less cable and power.

4). With all six bays filled, should I populate the two 92mm drive fans or leave them empty? If yes, what fans? The system is in a fairly good air flow power ventilated cabinet. The only other quite hot product is my B&K receiver which I intend to place a foot above the PC. The B&K can damn near cook an egg when cranked.

I appreciate any help as I really don't want to spend all this money and have the flipping thing not work with QAM and not be able to handle a lot of activity.

1 & 2. I prefer: Install the BD drive in one of the purple and the VelociRaptor (OS) in the other. No RAID 0 for OS. Four WD in yellow in RAID 5. The purple ports are connected to JMicron JMB363, while the six yellow ports are Intel ICH9R. I am not sure if VelociRaptor is overkill or not, a 7200rpm drive may be enough.

3. AverTV combo PCIe also works for QAM/VMC. I am not familiar with TV Pack. Check this thread if you haven't yet.

4. NEXUS DF1209SL-3.
post #3051 of 18891
right now i have asus p5q + e8400. does it really matter if i buy 8600gt, 9800gt or 4850 for video card if i have e8400.

on the info that you have, that e8400 + p45 + either 9800gt or 4850 for good for PP and other things.

i want to know if i buy 8600gt instead of either 9800gt or 4850, that is really matter or not.
post #3052 of 18891
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

right now i have asus p5q + e8400. does it really matter if i buy 8600gt, 9800gt or 4850 for video card if i have e8400.

on the info that you have, that e8400 + p45 + either 9800gt or 4850 for good for PP and other things.

i want to know if i buy 8600gt instead of either 9800gt or 4850, that is really matter or not.

8600 GT is the minimum for good pp. 9800 GT and HD 4850 are better. But watch the upcoming HD 4650. This card will be the best in performance/features/price/power consumption. It also supports multichannel LPCM.
post #3053 of 18891
[quote=redjr;14551404]The truth of the matter is, the HTPC is just not ready for prime time and friendly enough to be in most living/great/media rooms.[quote]

Well, it's not for those that like to "set it, and forget it!" And, I wonder if it will ever be ready for primetime. The flexibility inherent in an HTPC creates a lot of variables. If all you want to do is play blu-ray movies, you'd be better off buying a PS3 or a component style BD player. But, if you want to do a lot of other things like stream and download media, play some games, and you enjoy spending a lot of time on the project, an HTPC fits the bill in a single chassis. A/V and computer manufacturers will probably come out with more and more products that come closer, but I doubt they will offer the power and flexibility of a homemade system.
post #3054 of 18891
Note: I haven't made three posts, so no URLs. Sorry folks. I don't want to make three quick junk posts just to include URLs.

I recently bought an AppleTV and used the aTV Flash on it, intending to play some 720p MKV files. Lots of screwing around later, I find out it's not capable on a hardware level of performing this task. Faced with transcoding my 800GB+ collection of TV shows and films to the proper format for the AppleTV, I've decided to build an HTPC. It'll be Linux/MythTV based. I'm a Mac guy, so introducing Microsoft back to my life is not something I look forward to. I realize this means that I won't be able to take advantage of processor-level decoding, so I believe I've amped up the performance to compensate. I've chosen an Intel system because that's what I have experience with as a system builder (though I haven't build one in several years).

Case: SILVERSTONE Black Aluminum GD01B-MXR -- I chose this case because it has a built-in IR receiver, apparently a rare thing in HTPC cases for some stupid reason? I can't find USB IR receivers on NewEgg, am I doing something wrong?

Power Supply: ORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-EG45M-DS2H -- According to the guide here on page 85 of this thread, this should be fine for what I want to do. It lists 24Hz BD playback as not optimal, but I don't have any BD media and if I get into it someday, I'm most likely going to buy a standalone player.

Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz -- I'm debating dropping this down. Maybe a slower clock on a Quad or even down to a Duo. Am I really going to get that much more performance out of the Quad compared to a Duo in Linux, with MythTV? I'm seeing posts in this thread in favor of a ~3Ghz Duo... would that be better than the Quad I'm considering?

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) -- Good ratings, RAM is cheap.

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD800JD 80GB -- I don't need massive storage, using a Drobo. Thought about a 10k drive but can't justify the cost.

Optical drive: Pioneer DVD burner -- See above note about BD.

Remote: Logitech Harmony 880 -- I have a girlfriend, I have roommates. While we all work for the AV department here on campus, I'm by and far the most advanced of the group. I'll be making a "Mrs. Satan" button so she can just turn everything to where it needs to be.


Thoughts? Comments? I'm looking to trim costs because the addition of the Harmony remote has driven this cost up north of $1000, before shipping.
post #3055 of 18891
Quote:
Originally Posted by renethx View Post

8600 GT is the minimum for good pp. 9800 GT and HD 4850 are better. But watch the upcoming HD 4650. This card will be the best in performance/features/price/power consumption. It also supports multichannel LPCM.


when is it come out? it looks like i would rather wait.
post #3056 of 18891
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

when is it come out? it looks like i would rather wait.

September 10.



Radeon HD 4650/4670 reference card
post #3057 of 18891
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Satan. View Post

I've decided to build an HTPC. It'll be Linux/MythTV based. I'm a Mac guy, so introducing Microsoft back to my life is not something I look forward to. I realize this means that I won't be able to take advantage of processor-level decoding, so I believe I've amped up the performance to compensate. I've chosen an Intel system because that's what I have experience with as a system builder (though I haven't build one in several years).

Case: SILVERSTONE Black Aluminum GD01B-MXR -- I chose this case because it has a built-in IR receiver, apparently a rare thing in HTPC cases for some stupid reason? I can't find USB IR receivers on NewEgg, am I doing something wrong?

Power Supply: ORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-EG45M-DS2H -- According to the guide here on page 85 of this thread, this should be fine for what I want to do. It lists 24Hz BD playback as not optimal, but I don't have any BD media and if I get into it someday, I'm most likely going to buy a standalone player.

Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz -- I'm debating dropping this down. Maybe a slower clock on a Quad or even down to a Duo. Am I really going to get that much more performance out of the Quad compared to a Duo in Linux, with MythTV? I'm seeing posts in this thread in favor of a ~3Ghz Duo... would that be better than the Quad I'm considering?

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) -- Good ratings, RAM is cheap.

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD800JD 80GB -- I don't need massive storage, using a Drobo. Thought about a 10k drive but can't justify the cost.

Optical drive: Pioneer DVD burner -- See above note about BD.

Remote: Logitech Harmony 880 -- I have a girlfriend, I have roommates. While we all work for the AV department here on campus, I'm by and far the most advanced of the group. I'll be making a "Mrs. Satan" button so she can just turn everything to where it needs to be.


Thoughts? Comments? I'm looking to trim costs because the addition of the Harmony remote has driven this cost up north of $1000, before shipping.

There are a bunch of cases with built-in IR receiver. A USB IR receiver is here.

Q6600 2.4GHz is now only $190. It's a 65nm processor, but it's a great bargain.
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"AverTV combo PCIe also works for QAM/VMC."

I've got the AVerMedia M780 and it definitely works with unencrypted QAM under VMC - even with 4GB of RAM under 64-bit Vista, which has been a problem for lots of software and hardware.

But beware that QAM can be a major pain in the butt - especially if your cable company likes to move stations around. You first have to run a utility to search for the QAM stations. Then you select each one that has an active channel and figure out the call letters. This took over an hour, flicking back and forth between the utility and cable to figure out what the channels were. And if you want the channel guide to be automatically loaded, make sure you use the exact name used by zap2it.com. Then you do some weird (but straightforward) stuff to load those channels into VMC. And it works very well. But once I was done, and realized that all I had gained over ATSC via antenna was ESPN, WGN, and a bunch of spanish, religious and local government channels. And I had lost some picture quality because cable isn't quite as good as OTA. (Luckily I'm in an area with very good OTA reception.) I know from other folks that my cable company moves QAM channels around frequently, and I couldn't imagine going through all that again, so I immediately bailed and moved back to antenna.

So I'm not saying that QAM isn't for you, but I'm just warning you that you may not enjoy it.
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Im thinking in this htpc based system this one is one of the recomended with small changes.
AMD/AMD

System

* CPU: Phenom X3 8450 HD8450WCGHBOX 2.1GHz, $102.
* CPU Cooler: Scythe SHURIKEN SCSK-1000, $33.
* Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H AMD 780G chipset microATX, $85.
* Memory: A-DATA ADQVE1A16K DDR2-800 2 x 1GB Kit, $38.
* Graphics Card: Radeon HD 3200 (integrated in the motherboard chipset), $0.
* HDD: Western Digital WD3200AAKS 640GB SATA, $85.

* Case: Antec NSK4480B Black 0.8mm cold-rolled steel construction ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 380W Power Supply $79.99
* Total Cost: almost $480 with shipping and tax.

what do you guys think, it will be my first biuld system so.
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

There are a bunch of cases with built-in IR receiver. A USB IR receiver is here.

Q6600 2.4GHz is now only $190. It's a 65nm processor, but it's a great bargain.

Good spot with the Q6600. What kind of case would you recommend? I'm looking for something black (preferably), IR receiver built in, doesn't have to have a card reader or power supply (but are nice to have). I find the Silverstones to be a bit on the expensive side... I'm looking for the $160-80 range.
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