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post #3211 of 19097
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Originally Posted by lostcase View Post

So, using that adapter, I would be able to use HDMI 1.3, with audio and sound in one?

Video and audio in one cable. The supported audio is multichannel LPCM, DD, and DTS. So, for example, TrueHD must (and will) be decoded into LPCM by a software player.
post #3212 of 19097
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Originally Posted by Iteki View Post

Thanks. Do you think the price is appropriate for the hardware? (No monitor/keyboard/mouse...optical drive is read only)

Yes.
post #3213 of 19097
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What's the limiting factor for BD@24 playback in the recommended low/mid-range G45 systems? Any suggestions on how to alleviate the limitations (without upgrading the whole config)?

I think Intel engineers have not identified the cause yet. Use a discrete card or be content with 60Hz.
post #3214 of 19097
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Originally Posted by maratb View Post

What's the limiting factor for BD@24 playback in the recommended low/mid-range G45 systems? Any suggestions on how to alleviate the limitations (without upgrading the whole config)?

I set my VERY low-end single-processor AMD system to BD@24 and it seems to do "just fine". Maybe I am not getting 24 but I set the system to it and it does appear to deliver it to my 1080p screen with no hicups
post #3215 of 19097
where can one get the ati hdmi dongle? I am assuming my asus 3450 can use it..
post #3216 of 19097
Newegg was selling the dongle for about $7 a few weeks ago. Make sure you get the 3xxx version, not the older 2xxx version. The older one will allow video to pass, but not audio.
post #3217 of 19097
thanks.. found it
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814999010

I swore i did a search.. oh well.. looks like its hdmi only.. ie.. no hdmi with the optical digital spdif.. nice
post #3218 of 19097
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

I don't think there will be dual HDMI cards. One HDMI or DVI (with a ATI DVI-HDMI dongle) is enough.

Please see this card. It's actually the 4670.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/792/2/

I think I remember reading that you need to route the Video output into the sound and then out again. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thank you.
post #3219 of 19097
The Chenbro SR109 Case does not seem to include the two cages like your guide states. I have contacted multiple resellers and they seem pretty convinced it does not contain the drive cages. As it ships, it supports 1 3.5" drive, and has 9 empty 5.4 open bays. Where did you get the 10 hot swap drives by default information?

I desperately need a decent server case, that can be made decently quiet. Its either this, or the Lian-Li PC-V2000 Plus...


::Stuart
post #3220 of 19097
I'm in the planning phase for building my own mythtv. I was wondering what you would suggest for me, I want 2 HD tuners. HDMI, and VGA Output and basically hardware that will work with linux so i can run mythtv that will run me around $500 or so. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
post #3221 of 19097
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Originally Posted by sicilianbambino View Post

Please see this card. It's actually the 4670.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/792/2/

This card has two DisplayPort ports and one DVI port.

Yes, video signal goes from the DVI to the sound card HDMI in (via the DVI to HDMI cable bundled with the Xonar card [or any generic cable]), then goes out of the HDMI out.


The picture from Elite Bustards' review (actually no reivew on HDMI audio; only analog and S/PDIF)
post #3222 of 19097
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Originally Posted by Wardour View Post

The Chenbro SR109 Case does not seem to include the two cages like your guide states. I have contacted multiple resellers and they seem pretty convinced it does not contain the drive cages. As it ships, it supports 1 3.5" drive, and has 9 empty 5.4 open bays. Where did you get the 10 hot swap drives by default information?

You may be right. My description is based on pre-release information.
post #3223 of 19097
Thanks for the reading so far, very insightful. I've got a bit of a rambling description of where I am now with some specific questions at the end

I'm looking at getting an HTPC for my LN46A650 (bought in part because of the good press here!). I don't need anything too demanding just yet, but I'd like to keep my options open for BluRay, gaming (nice for a while, but not top of the line), and a decent speaker system down the line without having to replace anything. For now I'll be looking to play HD x264 files primarily and the speakers aren't anything special and we don't have too many inputs so I'm running everything into the TV. I plan to get a receiver when I decide to bite the bullet on speakers.

For now I think I can handle deciding on the following
:
Probably Antec Fusion 430 (it's pretty, and I like being able to really incorporate the PC into my setup, which leads me more to micro. And it's pretty)
2x2 GB RAM (get whatever is appropriate for motherboard)
SATA HD (easy enough to figure out)

Unsure:
For processor what I've been reading online makes me lean to Intel, either E7300 or E8400 (leaning a bit towards the E8400 for when I get a vid card for games) That means...
The two mobos that are mentioned here are
1) ABIT I-N73HD
2) ASUS P5Q-EM
The ABIT is a good deal cheaper and I'm guessing that comes from the RAM and the chipset. However, I'm skeptical of needing more than 4 GB of RAM in the future without needing to rebuild several parts of the HTPC anyway and given my A) somewhat limited use currently and B) Intention to get a video card down the line I'm not clear what the ASUS board actually gets me for ~$50 more.

I like the option of using LPCM audio out through the Radeon cards for later, but since I don't have quality speakers or a game I'm burning to play just yet I don't see a reason I need any of that now (but I'd like to avoid cutting myself off). I'm still unsure of the whole audio scene, so if I'm just latching onto the LPCM buzzword and ignoring other viable options, please set me straight.

Here are my questions (any other suggestions welcome, of course):
1) Given what I'm going for, does the ASUS board get me anything for the extra cost?
2) Will these boards be able to fit (sizewise...the danger of microATX) a video card like the 4870 if I want to add that later.
3) Can I play most x264 HD content with the onboard video until I get the video card?
4) With onboard, would I just be plugging HDMI into the TV and it would handle video/sound (from what I understand, yes)

Thanks for your time!
post #3224 of 19097
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Originally Posted by The_Jackalope View Post

1) Given what I'm going for, does the ASUS board get me anything for the extra cost?
2) Will these boards be able to fit (sizewise...the danger of microATX) a video card like the 4870 if I want to add that later.
3) Can I play most x264 HD content with the onboard video until I get the video card?
4) With onboard, would I just be plugging HDMI into the TV and it would handle video/sound (from what I understand, yes)

1) The biggest drawback of I-N73HD is single-channel memory controller. If you want the best peformance in gaming, you'd better choose P5Q-EM.
2) HD 4850 is OK, but HD 4870 (241mm long; 5mm longer than 4850) is perhaps too tight in Fusion (max card lenth 250mm, but you have to consider the power connectors). If you cut out the wall a bit, it will fit.
3) Yes. With E8400, playing most x264 HD contents is not difficult (easy in many cases) with onboard video (GeForce 7100 or G45).
4) Yes.

GeForce 9300 is coming soon (late September) that replaces GeForce 7100. 9300 supports dual-channel memory and onboard video is expected to be comparable with G45, and is perhaps cheap (< $100).
post #3225 of 19097
Thanks! One more video card size concern: motherboard? The ASUS has a heatsink that looks like it could block a video card the size of the HD4870 (or maybe it's just the angle). Do I have to worry about the motherboard causing issues as well as the case?
post #3226 of 19097
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Originally Posted by The_Jackalope View Post

One more video card size concern: motherboard? The ASUS has a heatsink that looks like it could block a video card the size of the HD4870 (or maybe it's just the angle). Do I have to worry about the motherboard causing issues as well as the case?

The heatsink on the southbridge is <10mm tall, that won't block any expansion card.
post #3227 of 19097
Any recomendations on where to find the Fusion Remote Black? Not much out there. I found the case here;

http://www.provantage.com/antec-fusi...k~AANTG053.htm

Not familiar with Provantage and they don't carry in stock, they order from Antec. There delivery times is as follows;

Place your order with us and we will get it for you as quickly as possible.
post #3228 of 19097
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Originally Posted by mcpfrid View Post

Any recomendations on where to find the Fusion Remote Black?

Fusion Remote Black was just released and may not be available yet at retail stores. You can buy Fusion 430 Black instead (comes with a 430W PSU but no remote control). PROVANTAGE is a good retailer.
post #3229 of 19097
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Originally Posted by mcpfrid View Post

Not familiar with Provantage and they don't carry in stock, they order from Antec.

I bought Fusion Remote Silver from them. Delivered in 2 days.
post #3230 of 19097
So the three recommended cpu coolers are the:

Scythe ninja mini
Thermalright HR-01 PLUS
ZEROtherm BTF90


any opinions (as to how quiet they are in the htpc environment) would be helpful as reviews are all over the place - some they they are all silent and others say they are noisy as hell!

thanks
jim
post #3231 of 19097
Update on my single-processor CPU viability effort. A simple chip replacement from the prior Sempron 3000+ to the Athlon 3200 has had two results. The first is an expected load reduction. Using a 30-day freeware trial of an application titled "Performance Test v6.1" by Passmark Software I was able to verify that there is a 22% reduction in application load when running the same video in 1080p mode via PowerDVD. This means that the load is now between 50% and 74% and no longer peaks around 100%. This is without any overclocking.

the other (unexpected) result was that I no longer get the prompt regarding the system asking if I would like to use a lower resolution. I can only assume that this is a direct result of the differences between the Sempron and the Atlon processors.
post #3232 of 19097
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Originally Posted by jim tressler View Post

So the three recommended cpu coolers are the:

Scythe ninja mini
Thermalright HR-01 PLUS
ZEROtherm BTF90


any opinions (as to how quiet they are in the htpc environment) would be helpful as reviews are all over the place - some they they are all silent and others say they are noisy as hell!

Quality ratings according to SilentPCReview:

- Thermalright HR-01 PLUS: 9
- Scythe ninja mini: 7.5
- ZEROtherm BTF90: 7.5

If the case height allows, HR-01 PLUS is the best choice. If you use a Core 2 Duo or Athlon X2 processor, Ninja Mini without a fan (zero noise) may be good enough. I even use Phenom X3 8750 95W processor in this way (max temerature at load is ~70°C, no problem ).
post #3233 of 19097
Are any of the latest video cards or IGP better at managing dual displays with different resolutions? I have a 7" touchscreen that is 800x480, but would like to use 1440x960 @48 for my projector ... both are VGA
Any suggestions?
BTW, I'd prefer to stick with XP for now, but this might be worth going to Vista for if it works
post #3234 of 19097
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Originally Posted by Briands View Post

Are any of the latest video cards or IGP better at managing dual displays with different resolutions? I have a 7" touchscreen that is 800x480, but would like to use 1440x960 @48 for my projector ... both are VGA
Any suggestions?
BTW, I'd prefer to stick with XP for now, but this might be worth going to Vista for if it works

If you mean extended desktop mode, then any GPU supports different resolutions. In clone mode, the answer is no; the projector will be 800x480 too.
post #3235 of 19097
renethx, you are a saint. Same questions are asked over and over, still you answer. My point of no return would have been 70 pages ago.

Just a tip of the hat to yea.
post #3236 of 19097
+1
post #3237 of 19097
Hi guys,

Sorry to just pop in like this, but i don't know where to ask this question..

I have a normal laptop with VGA output that i want to hook to my Samsung LN40A650, which has a VGA/PC input. I just bought a cheap VGA-VGA cable to hook my laptop to this TV and when i connect the VGA cable to both ends, i get the "tu tun" sound from Windows telling me something has been plugged. However, the TV does not detect anything.

It says: "The source is not connected. Please check the cable again."

Any tips? Do we need a special cable or a regular VGA/VGA is fine?
post #3238 of 19097
I was surfing the web looking for a good quiet cooler for my new htpc build and i found this one: NQ-3580 Siberian Tiger (northq.com/products/coolers/nq3580.html)

Would it be a better cpu cooler in stead of:
Scythe ninja mini
Thermalright HR-01 PLUS
ZEROtherm BTF90

It got some pretty good reviews, but i dont know if it' ideal for a htpc.

What's your opinion?
post #3239 of 19097
Hey everyone, I'm still trying to cut costs on this build (NewEgg Wish List link). Here is a link to a comparison list from Newegg. I have the Q6600 right now and I'm wondering how low I can go processor-wise on this thing. I'm only using it to play back 720p, x264-encoded MKV and MP4 files. No BD drive, no video encoding.
post #3240 of 19097
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Originally Posted by vanylapep View Post

Hi guys,

Sorry to just pop in like this, but i don't know where to ask this question..

I have a normal laptop with VGA output that i want to hook to my Samsung LN40A650, which has a VGA/PC input. I just bought a cheap VGA-VGA cable to hook my laptop to this TV and when i connect the VGA cable to both ends, i get the "tu tun" sound from Windows telling me something has been plugged. However, the TV does not detect anything.

It says: "The source is not connected. Please check the cable again."

Any tips? Do we need a special cable or a regular VGA/VGA is fine?

On your laptop, do you have integrated Intel graphics? If so, right click on your desktop and select 'Graphic Options' and from there the choice should be fairly obvious. Also look for a Fn+FX key combination (such as Fn+F8 on Dells) that cycles through displaying only the laptop, only the external monitor and both at the same time. We run into this issue multiple times a day where I work, and it sounds like that's what you may have to do.
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