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post #331 of 12395
do not fear GG&HT. back when I was working medium drum career it held me upf or a day or two. Last night though I just beat it on hard on my first try with 4 stars. It's all in having the ability to keep a steady beat with all of your limbs. I probably looked like a fool because I naturally was doing a steady beat with my non bass drum foot and ended up bouncing to the beat because of it.
post #332 of 12395
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Originally Posted by logicalnoise View Post

It's all in having the ability to keep a steady beat with all of your limbs.

This prompts the question from me...what kind of grip on the sticks do you guys recommend? I noticed my hand and arm getting increditly fatigued last night as I played through on medium, especially on Maps. I'd start the song fine but between the one-third and halfway mark I'd invariably start falling off the beat slightly because my hand/arm was killing me.
post #333 of 12395
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Originally Posted by hiko13 View Post

what kind of grip on the sticks do you guys recommend?

Check the tutorials for recommended grip on sticks. It says you should be holding mainly with thumb and first finger, and the rest of the hand just keeping the stick in place.

It takes some time to get used to, but I think drummers will tell you that learning proper grip early on will help in the long run.
post #334 of 12395
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

Check the tutorials for recommended grip on sticks. It says you should be holding mainly with thumb and first finger, and the rest of the hand just keeping the stick in place.

It takes some time to get used to, but I think drummers will tell you that learning proper grip early on will help in the long run.

now see my hand cramps up on fast beats early in my sets holding the sticks that way(it subsides with stretching as I do more and more songs). Which again makes me think I should get some grippy thick handles for my sticks.
post #335 of 12395
I love the game... however in addition to my aforementioned complaint on the character sign-in issue (too complicated), I also dislike the calibration system.

Comments and questions:

- It's been said that Dolby Digital introduces some significant lag. I'd suggest turning it off if you are having calibration issues, just to eliminate a variable.

- The calibration seems to be tied to specific Live logins. While I understand why, it can be confusing. When setting in "quickplay" I think it lost it's "default" calibration once or twice.

- I'm not sure I understand the two parts of the calibration. The "horizontal" part using the drums, and then the "vertical" one using the guitar or a controller button. Are they calibrating each instrument seperately?
post #336 of 12395
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Originally Posted by scaesare View Post

I love the game... however in addition to my aforementioned complaint on the character sign-in issue (too complicated), I also dislike the calibration system.

Comments and questions:

- It's been said that Dolby Digital introduces some significant lag. I'd suggest turning it off if you are having calibration issues, just to eliminate a variable.

- The calibration seems to be tied to specific Live logins. While I understand why, it can be confusing. When setting in "quickplay" I think it lost it's "default" calibration once or twice.

- I'm not sure I understand the two parts of the calibration. The "horizontal" part using the drums, and then the "vertical" one using the guitar or a controller button. Are they calibrating each instrument seperately?

no, but they two test two different sorts of lag. One is an audio lag and the other is a visual/controller lag. Unfortunately the audio lag one can be hard to nail down. luckily it also actuals as manual slider so you can actually just set your lag setting and be done if you already know a good number.
post #337 of 12395
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

Check the tutorials...

Check the tutorials? BRILLIANT!

I'll give that a go after work. I certainly want to avoid having my lack of technique be the reason I get stuck as the songs get harder and harder...I'd much rather it be due to my lack of rhythm.
post #338 of 12395
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Originally Posted by logicalnoise View Post

now see my hand cramps up on fast beats early in my sets holding the sticks that way(it subsides with stretching as I do more and more songs). Which again makes me think I should get some grippy thick handles for my sticks.

Probably because you're not using enough of your wrist. Your hand should be loosely gripping the stick. Nothing should be tight. Make sure most of the motion of hitting the pad comes from the wrist, not from the fingers or the arm.
post #339 of 12395
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

hmmmm...maybe that's what the felt is for?

You might be right Dave. From hitting on the foam, it was "denting", and I could see over the course of a few weeks the foam becoming so compressed that it doesn't regain its form, or eventually splitting. It would still probably deaden the sound though. Who knows, maybe after it compresses further it will play better, with a little more bounce like a naked pad but still not clack clack clacking. I bought the stuff, I might as well use it I suppose.
post #340 of 12395
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Originally Posted by logicalnoise View Post

do not fear GG&HT. back when I was working medium drum career it held me upf or a day or two. Last night though I just beat it on hard on my first try with 4 stars. It's all in having the ability to keep a steady beat with all of your limbs. I probably looked like a fool because I naturally was doing a steady beat with my non bass drum foot and ended up bouncing to the beat because of it.

I got through it on medium doing the band tour w/friends, I just sorta hate the song. Too long and tedious. I like songs like Epic and Cherub Rock where I can WAIL...
post #341 of 12395
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Originally Posted by logicalnoise View Post

now see my hand cramps up on fast beats early in my sets holding the sticks that way(it subsides with stretching as I do more and more songs). Which again makes me think I should get some grippy thick handles for my sticks.

As someone else mentioned, loosening your grip is a biggie. I find myself automatically holding the sticks in a deathgrip, and then have to will myself to relax them. If you don't, you're straining your hands and wrists unnecessarily, which will fatigue them right quick.
post #342 of 12395
in case anyone wants to study you can find note charts here
post #343 of 12395
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Originally Posted by thejokell View Post

Probably because you're not using enough of your wrist. Your hand should be loosely gripping the stick. Nothing should be tight. Make sure most of the motion of hitting the pad comes from the wrist, not from the fingers or the arm.

That's true, if you prefer American matched grip (which is probably the easiest for this game) over French. There's some videos on expertvillage that show the different grips and how to hold them properly.

Expert Village - Beginner American Matched Grip
post #344 of 12395
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Originally Posted by soleblaze View Post

That's true, if you prefer American matched grip (which is probably the easiest for this game) over French. There's some videos on expertvillage that show the different grips and how to hold them properly.

Expert Village - Beginner American Matched Grip

WOW. You are THE MAN. Those clips are full of WIN. My wife actually used to play the drums...and she was taught the traditional grip. Cool. That guy's a good instructor, if these videos are any judge.
post #345 of 12395
my tracking number on my replacement guitar still reports 'billing information received' and the EA website reports 'item shipped' 11/29, yet no guitar has arrived.

it was 2-day air, right? seems like UPS would be at least reporting the package in their possession by now.

i RMA'd the first day... should i be concerned (yet)?

also, i was wondering if anyone else here was in this order limbo?
post #346 of 12395
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Originally Posted by beatnikdaddio View Post

my tracking number on my replacement guitar still reports 'billing information received' and the EA website reports 'item shipped' 11/29, yet no guitar has arrived.

it was 2-day air, right? seems like UPS would be at least reporting the package in their possession by now.

i RMA'd the first day... should i be concerned (yet)?

also, i was wondering if anyone else here was in this order limbo?

Scroll up a bit. I managed to talk with the guy in charge of warranty replacements Thursday afternoon. He said there was an issue with their computers. Apparently the first batch to request RMA's went into a queue and for whatever reason everyone that requested an RMA after that first group was placed ahead of us in line for some reason. They are working on a "first come/first served" basis, so those of us that were really first kinda got hosed.

The good news is that supposedly as of Thursday evening the issue had been resolved and they were going to be completely caught up by Friday morning.
post #347 of 12395
Just wanted to show everyone my drums that now have the "QUIET" mod to them LOL.


I found everything at Hobby Lobby. I also noticed though that WalMart carries everything too. I used a small bowl as my template and an Xacto knife to cut. Turned out pretty nice I think, can still see the colors for those that need to.
post #348 of 12395
wilson10, that looks awesome! I am going to shoot for that same look tomorrow when I buy the materials and set up my drums.
post #349 of 12395
didnt read the whole thread, but anyone try using dynamat or similar to quiet the drum pads?

in the car audio world the best sound deadening at a CHEAP price was frost king, made for duct work for silencing/insulating.
post #350 of 12395
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Originally Posted by formulanerd View Post

didnt read the whole thread, but anyone try using dynamat or similar to quiet the drum pads?

I don't think it would work well -- it's very important to retain the bounce of the sticks. I think dynamat might absorb too much of the hit. Also, dynamat is more for vibrations, and the noise on the drums is simply percussive wooden sticks hitting hard plastic or whatever the stock pad is made of.
post #351 of 12395
I just got an email from EA support apologizing to me for the delay in sending my replacement guitar and offering me a free game. Very cool, and I should have my new guitar on Monday.

Today we had a nice little BWT mini marathon in the afternoon as my wife invited a bunch of friends over in expectation of a snow day that never happened. I got stuck on the drums since I was the only one capable of playing on medium difficulty but its such an absolute blast playing on the home theater set up instead of my "little" 37" tv and the tv speakers.
post #352 of 12395
While playing on the drums my drum pedal just snapped in half. Has this happend to anyone else? I did not do anything out of the ordinary. The pedal itself always seemed very weak to me and at the main pressure point it seem to always give way. EA should really consider and acknowledge all the hardware issues they are having with Rock Band. Anyone else had their pedal snap?
post #353 of 12395
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Originally Posted by nyboy42 View Post

While playing on the drums my drum pedal just snapped in half. Has this happend to anyone else? I did not do anything out of the ordinary. The pedal itself always seemed very weak to me and at the main pressure point it seem to always give way. EA should really consider and acknowledge all the hardware issues they are having with Rock Band. Anyone else had their pedal snap?

I haven't had it happen but there are a lot of people on the RB forums who've had this problem.
post #354 of 12395
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Originally Posted by nyboy42 View Post

While playing on the drums my drum pedal just snapped in half. Has this happend to anyone else? I did not do anything out of the ordinary. The pedal itself always seemed very weak to me and at the main pressure point it seem to always give way. EA should really consider and acknowledge all the hardware issues they are having with Rock Band. Anyone else had their pedal snap?

That's not good, although I do remember reading that happening to IGN in their review as well.

I finally had enough people to get a few hours of 4 member BWT going last night, only to find out that the guitar is defective (it hadn't been touched since unpacking...I've been on drums and my wife on vocals). Looks like I'll be submitting for an RMA tomorrow, but still, that was an absolute blast.
post #355 of 12395
Last night I beat drum tour solo on medium and am now a couple tiers into Hard solo tour. This is really satisfying... I can feel myself get better every day I play!

I have to give props to Harmonix for increasing the drum difficulty perfectly. Except for that troublesome "wall" of GG&HT in medium, every tier within a difficultly level introduces a subtitle new technique that doesn't have to be mastered right away, but with practice and progression it all starts to sink in.

Now, on hard, the fancy kick drum stuff is happening... double beats and off-beat kicks with the foot. Myself, I'm having a real hard time with the fast O-RY-O-RY-O-RY of songs like "Here it Goes Again" and "Wave of Mutilation", but I 5-starred Gimme Shelter first time playing on hard!

I think the drums alone are worth every penny I paid for Rock Band.
post #356 of 12395
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

Last night I beat drum tour solo on medium and am now a couple tiers into Hard solo tour. This is really satisfying... I can feel myself get better every day I play!

I have to give props to Harmonix for increasing the drum difficulty perfectly. Except for that troublesome "wall" of GG&HT in medium, every tier within a difficultly level introduces a subtitle new technique that doesn't have to be mastered right away, but with practice and progression it all starts to sink in.

Now, on hard, the fancy kick drum stuff is happening... double beats and off-beat kicks with the foot. Myself, I'm having a real hard time with the fast O-RY-O-RY-O-RY of songs like "Here it Goes Again" and "Wave of Mutilation", but I 5-starred Gimme Shelter first time playing on hard!

I think the drums alone are worth every penny I paid for Rock Band.

Completely agree. Even though I haven't beaten medium yet I found myself able to get through a few of the songs on hard while doing BWT last night, but the double beats gave me fits on a couple songs and quickly humbled me. That's going to take some practice.
post #357 of 12395
Is anyone concerned about burn in from this game? I timed myself playing for an hour and I could see the stars and score stuck in the screen. I noticed it was still there a day later so I ran the screen cleaner and it fixed it, but I thought that was really strange. I haven't experienced any issues with any of the other games.
post #358 of 12395
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Originally Posted by brhendricks View Post

Is anyone concerned about burn in from this game? I timed myself playing for an hour and I could see the stars and score stuck in the screen. I noticed it was still there a day later so I ran the screen cleaner and it fixed it, but I thought that was really strange. I haven't experienced any issues with any of the other games.

ask any plasma owner and they'll tell you burn-in and image retention doesnt exist, maybe the stars and scores are burned into your retina's
post #359 of 12395
the solo on gght on medium drums is killing me. failing at 62% almost every time.
post #360 of 12395
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Originally Posted by brhendricks View Post

Is anyone concerned about burn in from this game? I timed myself playing for an hour and I could see the stars and score stuck in the screen. I noticed it was still there a day later so I ran the screen cleaner and it fixed it, but I thought that was really strange. I haven't experienced any issues with any of the other games.

I experienced this very badly when GH2 came out, the score meter was there and I could not get rid of it. So I bought an LCD.

Sure the PQ is not quite as good but its close enough for me to not have to worry about burn in.
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