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post #121 of 398
If you are still looking for amplification of your Klipsch Ultra II system, contact: www.thesoundbroker.com . I think he posts on this forum as Sounddood. Anyway, he is an Ultra II dealer and has some powerful amps he recommends to be used with this setup.

I have an the Ultra II system in my theater. Love it!!!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=989487

Good luck!!!
Matt
post #122 of 398
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Hello All,

Here are some additional pictures. I did all the painting myself, except for the black ceiling.


This is an updated photo of the stage, the front soffit, and front columns. I still need to add two more coats of faux paint on the soffits and columns.


This is a pic of the left side columns taken at night with two halogen worklights aimed at them. This is with just one coat of the burgundy faux paint. The base coat is a beige labeled "Tropical Straw".


This is the rear left column and rear and side soffits taken in the daylight. It still requires two more coats of faux paint.


Close-up of burgundy faux.


Another close-up.


Soffit and column detail. The two crown mouldings need to be painted a foil gold. You can see the flat black painted star ceiling. 2 more coats of faux paint is still required.


A very close-up photo of the brocade which will cover the drywall between the columns and doors. It has a black sheen at certain angles which will not detract from the viewing experience.



I will keep updating as I progress.
post #123 of 398
Love the details Calbear, great work. The double column inserts really create depth, cant wait to see how the overhead lights play off of them.
post #124 of 398
Great to see you back at it Calbear. We were getting worried about you. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Nice job on the colors, should look awesome when your finished.
post #125 of 398
Very nice colors. I like the reds

Victor
post #126 of 398
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Originally Posted by calbear View Post

Hi jimlab,
I may take you up on your spare parts, as I have 5 of them sitting in their boxes ready to be installed. I hope I won't have your problems, but I have a feeling the odds are that I will encounter the same issues.

Judging by this thread, the chances are pretty good, unfortunately.

You're welcome to the two I have if you ever need them. Shipping costs only.

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I like the idea of having 1000 of my DVD's in the changers so that I can dedicate the RAID to just hi-def material.

That was one of my goals too, but I think you'll have better luck if you don't fully load the changers. It appears that if you load all 200 discs that the weight is just too much for the belt drive system and it will eventually slip just enough for things to get out of alignment, rendering the changer inoperable.

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I do have the RAID, and it is about 2 Terabytes in size. I have considered upgrading all the harddrives to 1 Terabytes each so that I have 8 Terabytes. However, in order to do that, I need to ensure that the HTPC will be capable of running Blu-Ray and HD DVD, which means upgrading the processor to a Quad-Core, adding a new video card, and adding more memory.

Be sure that the OS is capable of recognizing RAID arrays larger than 2T. I just ran into some problems with Vista Ultimate (32-bit) in recognizing a 3.63T array (reports it at 1.7T) even though it's supposed to fully support the GPT format and volumes larger than 2T.

I'm still trying to get to the bottom of that one, but in the meantime, I'm running five Seagate 1T drives separately (wrong number of drives for RAID 1 even if I didn't mind the loss in storage space, and I wasn't willing to risk a striped/spanned scheme taking out all my data if one drive failed) and Media Center can "watch" multiple folders, so I'll be able to have the same ~1,000 movies available with no lag time and no menus.

BTW, be aware that the more changers you add, the more likely you are to have issues with synching. You will also have to turn off the changers if you reboot the system and then turn them back on in sequence to get them recognized properly, or at least that's what I found.

Good luck, and nice house.
post #127 of 398
Where did you get your fabric for your wall covering? That is exactly what I am looking for!
post #128 of 398
You guys might want to look at using Vista for your Media Center boxes. It is quite improved over XP's and it can handle large RAID arrays.

You also might look at Windows Home Server as well.

Mike

PS: Love the theater!
post #129 of 398
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Where did you get your fabric for your wall covering? That is exactly what I am looking for!

+1
post #130 of 398
They place is still looking great, keep up the good work!
post #131 of 398
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mccabem View Post

If you are still looking for amplification of your Klipsch Ultra II system, contact: www.thesoundbroker.com . I think he posts on this forum as Sounddood. Anyway, he is an Ultra II dealer and has some powerful amps he recommends to be used with this setup.

I have an the Ultra II system in my theater. Love it!!!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=989487

Good luck!!!
Matt

Hi Matt,
Thank you for providing me the link and the name for sounddood. I will check out his site. I also have an Ultra2 dealer locally, so I will see what suggestions he has as well as looking into thesoundbroker.
I have viewed your thread, and I think it is a marvelous setup. I see how many accolades you have for the speakers, and I look forward to being able to set them up. They've been in boxes for so long, it is so tempting to just take them all out and hook it up in my family room for now. Unfortunately, they do not pass muster with the wife factor aesthetically, so it's not going to happen.

Take care,
J.
post #132 of 398
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Originally Posted by Robby-P View Post

Love the details Calbear, great work. The double column inserts really create depth, cant wait to see how the overhead lights play off of them.

Hi Robby,
Thank you. I agree with you that the double inserts add depth to the columns. I only did them on the left and right front columns, because I wanted to distinguish them from the rest of the columns. It took a long time for my contractor to do them and more materials, so it would have been cost-prohibitive to have done them for all the columns and soffits. I too am looking forward to seeing them with the various lights (the small flush cans, the large flush cans, the rope lighting, and the stars).

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Originally Posted by swamdog View Post

Great to see you back at it Calbear. We were getting worried about you. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Nice job on the colors, should look awesome when your finished.

Thanks swamdog! It is nice to know that you were concerned! I too am happy about the colors. The pictures don't do it justice.

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Originally Posted by victor-eyd View Post

Very nice colors. I like the reds

Victor

Thanks Victor. I hope that you will be able to see them in person soon.

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Originally Posted by vili View Post

They place is still looking great, keep up the good work!

Thanks vili. I appreciate your words of encouragement.
post #133 of 398
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jimlab View Post

Judging by this thread, the chances are pretty good, unfortunately.

You're welcome to the two I have if you ever need them. Shipping costs only.

That was one of my goals too, but I think you'll have better luck if you don't fully load the changers. It appears that if you load all 200 discs that the weight is just too much for the belt drive system and it will eventually slip just enough for things to get out of alignment, rendering the changer inoperable.

Be sure that the OS is capable of recognizing RAID arrays larger than 2T. I just ran into some problems with Vista Ultimate (32-bit) in recognizing a 3.63T array (reports it at 1.7T) even though it's supposed to fully support the GPT format and volumes larger than 2T.

I'm still trying to get to the bottom of that one, but in the meantime, I'm running five Seagate 1T drives separately (wrong number of drives for RAID 1 even if I didn't mind the loss in storage space, and I wasn't willing to risk a striped/spanned scheme taking out all my data if one drive failed) and Media Center can "watch" multiple folders, so I'll be able to have the same ~1,000 movies available with no lag time and no menus.

BTW, be aware that the more changers you add, the more likely you are to have issues with synching. You will also have to turn off the changers if you reboot the system and then turn them back on in sequence to get them recognized properly, or at least that's what I found.

Good luck, and nice house.

Hi Jim,
Thank you for your advice and links. It is good to anticipate problems that may arise. I may take you up on your offer of getting the spare parts if needed. I understand that you can daisy chain only a maximum of five at a time. I will also heed your advice about not using all 200 slots for each changer, as well as the syncing issues.

I hope you get your Vista problems resolved soon.
Having 5 TB sounds like you and your guests will be enjoying your movies throughout your house. Are you using Windows Media Extenders to stream them to other rooms?

Take care,
J.
post #134 of 398
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Where did you get your fabric for your wall covering? That is exactly what I am looking for!

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+1

Hi junkmailj and ejhuzy,
I purchased the material at Anna's Linens. It is in the brocade section.
post #135 of 398
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Originally Posted by Shock96 View Post

You guys might want to look at using Vista for your Media Center boxes. It is quite improved over XP's and it can handle large RAID arrays.

You also might look at Windows Home Server as well.

Mike

PS: Love the theater!

Thanks for the suggestion Mike. I have been talking to my consultant about upgrading to Vista Premium. I will have to change my processor to a Quad-Core, increase the memory, and upgrade my video card in order for the operating system to work efficiently, and to be able to run and stream HD to the various Media Extenders. I am hoping to have extenders go to five separate rooms, and have told him that I want to increase that to 10 rooms, but we'll see how much we can push the envelope.

Take care,
J.
post #136 of 398
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Hi junkmailj and ejhuzy,
I purchased the material at Anna's Linens. It is in the brocade section.

Thanks calbear. Doesn't look like Anna's has fabric on their web site. Might have to take a drive down to Allentown.
post #137 of 398
Thread Starter 
My apologies Ed and junkmailj!
I couldn't find it on their website either, but I know it was there. Therfore, I just asked my wife, and she told me it is actually Jo-Ann's Fabrics!! I am very sorry about that.
To make it up to you, I found the exact page on Jo-Ann's website:
http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog.j...&source=search

Sorry about that.
J.
post #138 of 398
Thread Starter 
Just to get an idea of what the wall coverings will look like next to the columns, my wife and I took some impromptu photos.

Here is a pic of the brocade adjacent to a column. Note the dark sheen when viewed at certain angles:


Here is a pic of us stretching a portion of the fabric across two columns. Obviously, we will need to iron the fabric out prior to stretching it across the frames. Note the window will be completely covered up to prevent any outdoor light leakage:


One more pic of the brocade and the column:


Hopefully, I will have more photos to share.
post #139 of 398
calbear,

Thanks for the update. I have a JoAnn's close by, I think I'm going to have to check that out! In that distance picture, I'm surprised at how red the fabric is. Seems more black close up.

Keep on truckin', that room is looking awesome!
post #140 of 398
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I understand that you can daisy chain only a maximum of five at a time.

Theoretically, the limit of FireWire is 63 daisy-chained devices, but MCE was not tested with more than 5 changers, or at least that's my understanding.

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Having 5 TB sounds like you and your guests will be enjoying your movies throughout your house. Are you using Windows Media Extenders to stream them to other rooms?

Right now I'm broadcasting the output of the MCE tower on channel 72 through a closed circuit system so that it's available on all televisions in the house (with an IR repeater system to control from each room), but I intend to move to a MainLobby/DVDLobby system for asynchronous viewing at some point, unless the newer extenders turn out to be capable of streaming DVD video. The Xbox 360 currently isn't.
post #141 of 398
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Originally Posted by ejhuzy View Post

calbear,

Thanks for the update. I have a JoAnn's close by, I think I'm going to have to check that out! In that distance picture, I'm surprised at how red the fabric is. Seems more black close up.

Keep on truckin', that room is looking awesome!

Hi Ed,
Sorry again about mistaking the store. Definitely stop by and check it out. Also look for the weekly flyers, because they typically have a coupon for 40% to 50% off one purchase. The whole spool qualifies for it, so you can get it for about $5/yard.
I too am surprised at how red it is. However, the pic was taken at a perpendicular, so if you move at a different angle, you will see it immediately change to black.
I figured that if you are watching the screen in the front, you will only see the walls in front, which will be seen at angles and therefore black. If you turn immediately to your left or right and see the wall, it may appear more red. However, it should minimally distract you from watching the screen in front.
Thank you for the compliment. I will make sure to keep trucking.
post #142 of 398
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jimlab View Post

Theoretically, the limit of FireWire is 63 daisy-chained devices, but MCE was not tested with more than 5 changers, or at least that's my understanding.

Right now I'm broadcasting the output of the MCE tower on channel 72 through a closed circuit system so that it's available on all televisions in the house (with an IR repeater system to control from each room), but I intend to move to a MainLobby/DVDLobby system for asynchronous viewing at some point, unless the newer extenders turn out to be capable of streaming DVD video. The Xbox 360 currently isn't.

Hi Jim,
XBox360's act as Windows Media Extenders, and I believe there is a software which will allow you to do it. You will have to burn it onto your hard drive and it will stream as Video_TS files. Unfortunately, I just did a search but I can't find the details of it. Even Microsoft has mentioned this third party vendor (which I recall was purchased by MS) on their website but I can't find it on microsoft.com either. I'll keep looking for it.
post #143 of 398
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Originally Posted by calbear View Post

Thanks for the suggestion Mike. I have been talking to my consultant about upgrading to Vista Premium. I will have to change my processor to a Quad-Core, increase the memory, and upgrade my video card in order for the operating system to work efficiently, and to be able to run and stream HD to the various Media Extenders. I am hoping to have extenders go to five separate rooms, and have told him that I want to increase that to 10 rooms, but we'll see how much we can push the envelope.

Take care,
J.

I believe the max is 5 extenders on a single media center, but that could be an old number.

Also, do you have cable or DTV? If cable, consider getting a media center with cable card.

Lastly, I'm surprised you are talking about upgrading anything. It appears you have a fair amount of money to spend on doing all of this the right way Why not buy a machine that was designed to be a true powerhouse media center designed for vista instead of upgrading whatever you have?
post #144 of 398
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Originally Posted by calbear View Post

Hi Jim,
XBox360's act as Windows Media Extenders, and I believe there is a software which will allow you to do it. You will have to burn it onto your hard drive and it will stream as Video_TS files. Unfortunately, I just did a search but I can't find the details of it. Even Microsoft has mentioned this third party vendor (which I recall was purchased by MS) on their website but I can't find it on microsoft.com either. I'll keep looking for it.


there are a couple of ways to do this. You can convert the files over to MPG or WMV files. This works great, but can be time consuming.

You can also use transcode 360 to stream other file types.

Microsoft doesn't provide a method for doing this (streaming dvd content).
post #145 of 398
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Originally Posted by ntode View Post

I believe the max is 5 extenders on a single media center, but I could always be wrong.

Also, do you have cable or DTV? If cable, consider getting a media center with cable card.

Lastly, I'm surprised you are talking about upgrading anything. It appears you have a fair amount of money to spend on doing all of this the right way Why not buy a machine that was designed to be a true powerhouse media center designed for vista instead of upgrading whatever you have?

Hi ntode,
I also was told it was 5 for now, but my guy says he is working on getting it so that we can transcode it to 10 Xbox360's. I'm not quite sure how he is going to do it, but I'm confident that if anyone can do it, he'll probably figure it out.
I have cable, although now I am thinking about changing to some type of satellite service.
In terms of the system, it is one of the first Epicenter systems, and I have a strong emotional affinity for it. I can get the upgrade done without making it obsolete and spending much less than a new system. I am so over-budget that my wife is now watching the finances of the project, so I need to report to the big boss when it comes to buying things. Spending another $10k is not going to pass her spending criteria.
post #146 of 398
Great work. I believe we share some of the same thoughts when it comes to design. the look and feel cannot be changed as easily as a piece of equipment. Always go for the visual impact. You can spent $200K and get a room like you will have. Something beautiful that envokes instant emotion from all who enter based sloely on the architectural details. Or you could drop The same $200K and have a bunch of very fine equipment in a crap room.

You have the right idea. build and upgrade over time. Don't sacrifice architectural detail for electronic wow. You can't just swap the details.

Nice build.

-Matt
post #147 of 398
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Hi Matt,
Thank you for your thought-provoking comments. I am very glad that we see eye-to-eye. The theater is meant to provide a strong emotional impact when entering it... like walking into a sanctuary.
Not only do we want to build it so that everyone can enjoy the experience of watching a movie, but it also really increases the value of the home and makes it much easier to sell it should we ever put the home on the market.

Thanks.
post #148 of 398
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I believe the max is 5 extenders on a single media center, but that could be an old number.

That's still the official limit (Go to page 2).
post #149 of 398
Just FYI, here are some other alternatives for extenders...

Niveus Extender

D-Link DSM-750

Linksys 2100+2200

HP MediaSmart TV
post #150 of 398
Damn it ! I just keep looking for something I don't love about your theater.

Art
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