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Horizontal finally proven better?

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/11/28/...age-guarantee/

Seems to be legit to me and finally prove the debate. I'm gonna have to lay mine down when I get home later.
post #2 of 19
Argh, I cannot access it, can you please post part of the article.
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
From PS3fanboy.com:

Whether you want to act like you're in the armed services or are looking for a new use for those pairs of infrared, night-vision, or thermal goggles lying around the house, why not take images of the PS3 using them? Polygamia did, claiming the thermal images are proof positive that keeping your PS3 in the horizontal position keeps the console cooler.

From the images, it seems accurate that the horizontal position is really the way to go. Anyone else got some dirty jokes in their minds? Keep them to yourselves -- this is totally professional talk here. Having these images is a bit better than conjecture and debate, so if you've got the space and want to prolong your system's life, do the right thing and lay that fine creature down instead of forcing it to stand. Oops, we did it anyway.


The actual site that did the test is not in english. I can't post pics though from work. I'm not even sure how to read the temps on the pics I can see though. Anyone able to discern?
post #4 of 19
all the pictures are here: http://boardsus.playstation.com/play...ead.id=2219120

Not hard to understand the graphs even if it's not in english.
PS3 run 60 degres Farheneit warmer vertical than horizontal!
post #5 of 19
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Originally Posted by gabrielh1979 View Post

all the pictures are here: http://boardsus.playstation.com/play...ead.id=2219120

Not hard to understand the graphs even if it's not in english.
PS3 run 60 degres Farheneit warmer horizontal than vertical !

you're saying it's better to sit it vertically correct?

those pics show diff sides of the ps3 at diff positions, it looks pretty even to me, we dont have a pic of the back vents with the ps3 in horizontal position tho.
post #6 of 19
How can anyone bear to stand it vertically, when you see gigantic cables coming out of the side?
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by Megalith View Post

How can anyone bear to stand it horizontally, when you see gigantic cables coming out of the side?

uh..wha ?
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by gabrielh1979 View Post

all the pictures are here: http://boardsus.playstation.com/play...ead.id=2219120

Not hard to understand the graphs even if it's not in english.
PS3 run 60 degres Farheneit warmer horizontal than vertical !

It's a delta, not an absolute temperature. The difference between 55 degrees C (~130 deg F) and 41 degrees C (~105 deg F) is about 25 degrees F, not 60.

However, the main heat exhaust is about 55 degrees C in both cases, meaning about the same amount of heat is being vented out, which means they're probably running about the same temperature internally. Given the location of the measuring point on the Blu-Ray drive, it's not surprising that it's significantly hotter when standing vertical, as it's near the top of the unit where a lot of heat will go.

I'm sure somebody enterprising could find a tool to pull the SMART data from the hard drive in Linux. That would at least give an indication of the HDA temeprature, which would be quite different if there really were a 15C delta inside the box. I'm not sure of another simple, accurate, internal measuring sensor that's accessible in the PS3.
post #9 of 19
Another one of these threads I call BS on. I have had my 60g since last November. When we are talking vertical vs horizontal do they know what they are talking about? I have had mine vertically for a year, as in standing on one end with the exhaust area on top. It ran silent and cool in an open stand. I now have a new stand for just my components. The PS 3 now is horizontal and it runs hotter and is more noisy, slightly and still can't hear it unless I go close to it, but the fan is running higher now than it EVER did before. Did the OP and or the link provided reverse horizontal and vertical in their mind and description, becuase it has been well known for a year now the PS3 runs better, quiet and cooler vertically.

This simple statement from the PS forum says it:

The reason its hotter at the duct end of the system while verticle is because heat rises, all those pictures mean is that while verticle the heat is rising to the duct and exiting the system or atleast getting away from the major components which are mostly on the left side of the system. verticle is better.
post #10 of 19
In my opinion heat signatures isn't going to prove anything. Someone needs to place a thermacouple on the heat sink and run some tests. In my younger days I had access to a Fluke with thermacouple but that was a long time ago.
post #11 of 19
I just read the whole 13 or so page thread. The conclusion: They have no clue what's better. lol
post #12 of 19
Guys, heat rises vertically (not horizontal) on planet earth.

It's obvious the original poster has no clue those thermal images of the PS3 were taken aboard the International Space Station. Sony donated a PS3 to NASA last year.
post #13 of 19
Thread Starter 
I'm posted the article just to see what people's thoughts were. After finding an english translation of the page I realized that this test has no credibility. I have had my PS3 since Dec. 06 and run it vertically.
post #14 of 19
The reason to run a console horizontally has nothing to do with heat, but more to do with the chances it will get knocked over. It doesn't take much, it could be as simple as messing with the wiring on the back of the TV and BAM!

At least, I'd never feel safe doing it. YMMV.
post #15 of 19
Never liked the idea of setting up a system vertically. I have always worried about it tipping + there is no room in my setup to have it vertical. My system has been horizontal since day one and always will be.

JD
post #16 of 19
Does it matter? Has there been a rash of overheating PS3s a la 360s that I didn't see the press release on?
post #17 of 19
My 60 GB has been horizontal since I got it last March with no issues. I couldn't stand it up vertically unless I took it out of the TV stand anyway.
post #18 of 19
Those images really don't prove much, other than vertical positioning looks to be slightly better.

That the air temp leaving the vents is hotter is actually a good thing. That's heat on the way out, not being trapped and dispersed internally.

Although, as stated above - the biggest danger presented to a PS3 standing vertically is the opportunity for it to get knocked over.

Anyone know what the common failure area is on a PS3 anyway? The drive? Power supply capacitors? The processor?
post #19 of 19
My 60 GB has been vertical for a year, and sits right next to my DVR and Receiver and gets several hours use everyday with no problems. But, it is open to the air on all sides. I think this is a lot better than stuffed in a cabinet or entertainment center.

P. S. I like having my PS logo flipped that way too...
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