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post #2461 of 3711
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Originally Posted by bgillyjcu View Post

So a PS3 and the HC4900....how do they work together.

Any of this Handshake issue?

PS3 and Mits 4900: best combo under 2K. They work like a charm. Just 'Turn Off" the 1080P/24fps option on your PS3 and you are set. No handshake issues at all. I suggest using HDMI for best audio and video.

gasdoc
post #2462 of 3711
I have an IRIS poll....check the main thread list! I'd like all owners to vote
post #2463 of 3711
Arg,
Ok I have to laugh at this a bit so feel free to join me.

I broke my 4900.

While trying to clean a dust blob out I snapped one of the white clips that holds the color ribbon in place. A note to anyone doing this rotate the white clip UP to release the ribbons and DOWN to lock them in place. Too much laptop work made me think they slid out and they are THIN, a slight tug on the green one caused the entire back to snap off making the green ribbon lose and not able to be tightened down.
I did get the dust blob though

Anyone know if Mitsu has a flat fee for repair? They are closed for the weekend and I've never had to deal with something like this before. *sigh*

This was not meant to scare anyone the dust blob removal is EASY, I just did not find any mention of the white clips and thought it was like laptop clips that look very similar. Otherwise this is a perfect projector
post #2464 of 3711
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Originally Posted by Caps18 View Post

I don't have too much experience in daytime (I should have been home for the Daytona 500 ), but I know it doesn't work when sunlight is hitting your screen.

I should have said I use the Low lamp setting most of the time. The standard one for when I need to show it off or want to watch something great.

But neither mode helped very much when it is sunny outside in my living room with 4 windows and a dining room kitchen window letting in light (no curtains yet, just blinds that don't do much). It is basically unwatchable, but I don't think any projector would be able to handle this because the screen color during the daytime is the darkest black level you can get.

I'll try to see what happens if I turn on the lights inside tonight, but I would expect the same thing to happen. You are better off sticking with a LCD TV if you do a lot of daytime TV watching.
post #2465 of 3711
Many pages ago I had written about my very positive experience re:the 4900. Today, I can easily say that this was a very worthwhile upgrade coming from my Sanyo Z2.

The Mitsubichi 4900 is excellent for blu-ray, HDTV and for SDDVD. I have no complaints. I don't see how spending a few hundred more get a better PQ. I think you would have to spend much more to see incremental difference over the 4900.

For those who already own a Sanyo Z2 and are wondering about the Mitsubichi 4900, I can very easily say do the upgrade. The colors are more deeper and vibrant, the improvement in lumens and in contrast are definitely visible, the difference between native 720P and 1080P is incredible and very visible in 1080P source like the PS3. Upscaling of SDDVD via the PS3 makes regular DVDs look like high def with the 4900. In my totally light controlled home theater and a 'small' 100" screen, the Low Lamp mode is all I need (5000hrs) and the Standard Lamp mode is too bright.

PM me if you own the Z2 and are wondering about the Mitsubichi 4900.

goodluck,
Gasdoc
post #2466 of 3711
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Originally Posted by jsimone View Post

I am considering a 4900 for a multi-use room HT. I am thinking about a 120" screen - matte white. I'll only watch at night when its pitch black. Will this work ok? Anyone driving a gain 1.0 screen that is 120 inches diag with a 4900? How does it look?

Does it look ok in low lamp mode or must the normal lamp mode be used?

Thanks for listening.

I have a dalite 120 inch 1.0 gain screen and it looks fantastic! I had a 480p infocus IN72 before and this is so much better it is hard to describe.
post #2467 of 3711
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Originally Posted by jsimone View Post

I am considering a 4900 for a multi-use room HT. I am thinking about a 120" screen - matte white. I'll only watch at night when its pitch black. Will this work ok? Anyone driving a gain 1.0 screen that is 120 inches diag with a 4900? How does it look?

Does it look ok in low lamp mode or must the normal lamp mode be used?

Thanks for listening.

I have used the HC4900 on a matte white 120" screen in our lounge room at half lamp and the image is absolutly fantastic.
But its 3D effect really pops when you set the lamp to high. You feel as if you could almost place your hand through a window and touch the objects on the other side.
post #2468 of 3711
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Originally Posted by imuesmail View Post

Many pages ago I had written about my very positive experience re:the 4900. Today, I can easily say that this was a very worthwhile upgrade coming from my Sanyo Z2.

The Mitsubichi 4900 is excellent for blu-ray, HDTV and for SDDVD. I have no complaints. I don't see how spending a few hundred more get a better PQ. I think you would have to spend much more to see incremental difference over the 4900.

For those who already own a Sanyo Z2 and are wondering about the Mitsubichi 4900, I can very easily say do the upgrade. The colors are more deeper and vibrant, the improvement in lumens and in contrast are definitely visible, the difference between native 720P and 1080P is incredible and very visible in 1080P source like the PS3. Upscaling of SDDVD via the PS3 makes regular DVDs look like high def with the 4900. In my totally light controlled home theater and a 'small' 100" screen, the Low Lamp mode is all I need (5000hrs) and the Standard Lamp mode is too bright.

PM me if you own the Z2 and are wondering about the Mitsubichi 4900.

goodluck,
Gasdoc

Ditto...

Made the jump from a Z2 myself, and it's a very nice improvement with the 4900
post #2469 of 3711
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Originally Posted by Dinger23 View Post

Got a letter from Mits saying that my rebate was approved but no check. Why not just send me my check?

maybe they need to earn interest on the $500 for as long as they can?
post #2470 of 3711
Set Iris to Open. Seems to have fixed my flickering issues. I'm guess the flickering was the auto adjustment by Auto Iris 1.
post #2471 of 3711
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Originally Posted by bgillyjcu View Post

So a PS3 and the HC4900....how do they work together.

Any of this Handshake issue?


So far, i've had no problems with them. But i do have a receiver, a Sony STR-DG810 mediating. I run HDMI from the PS3 to the receiver, and then HDMI to the 4900. Great sound + video so far. No judder, flickering, etc.

Plus, the 810 only accepts 1080/60, which is what the 4900 outputs. So i set the PS3s 1080/24p setting to "automatic", meaning it detects what the receiver will take, and so the PS3 outputs 1080/60 to the receiver, which then passes it to the 4900 ...
post #2472 of 3711
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Originally Posted by pioneer99 View Post

Set Iris to Open. Seems to have fixed my flickering issues. I'm guess the flickering was the auto adjustment by Auto Iris 1.

Don't want to cause you any more consternation pio but... AutoIris1 should not/does not cause "flicker"--indeed it's a relatively gradual effect that [mostly] can be seen only at fades-to-black. Unless you like and will keep Open as your preferred setting, I'd consider sending it back, or for repair under warranty.
post #2473 of 3711
is there a phone # to call to ask about status of rebate?

i mailed mine over a month ago and have not heard anything. i emailed the email address on the rebate form but got an error message saying that email is invalid.
post #2474 of 3711
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Originally Posted by union1411 View Post

is there a phone # to call to ask about status of rebate? i mailed mine over a month ago and have not heard anything. i emailed the email address on the rebate form but got an error message saying that email is invalid.

You DID keep a copy of your submission, didn't you? From the rebate form: "Allow up to 8 weeks for processing of mail-in offer. If Mail-in offer is not received within 8 weeks, customer must notify Mitsubishi by emailing PVS_Promotions@mdea.com no later than 60 days after submission, or all rights hereunder will expire."

What is amusing about this verbiage is that it says to wait 8 weeks (56 days) but if you don't write to them within *60 days* then you have no recourse. So there's a 4-day window to resolve it!

Is the PVS email the one you tried? I mailed my submission-in around January 19. I figger I'll give it another couple weeks before I start to worry...
post #2475 of 3711
Have anyone used 'Warranty By Mack Television Or Projector 3 (Three) Year In - Home Bulb Replacement Warranty' by Marc?

It seems to be a good deal. However I am not sure whether it covers normal wear or only covers 'damage'. I would like to use standard mode in watching sports programs in day time. I wonder whether they cover the lamp after 2000 hours of normal viewing time.

Please share your experience and story with Marc and any comment is appreciated. I only have limited time before I can order becuas ethey request the order within 30 days of the purchase of the device.

By the way, I sent question via email last week and haven't got response back for several days.
post #2476 of 3711
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Originally Posted by gottahavapj View Post

I have the Harmony 659 and am having the same issue upon startup. Switching between two activities when the projector is already running is working fine though. It's just getting enough delay in there at startup to select an input that is not working properly. My old Optoma would just hunt for an active input and latch on to it, so it was not an issue prior to this. Not a big deal for me to just pick up the Mits remote and hit the appropriate input button once, but that's not why we bought the Harmony now is it?

I have the Harmony 676 and haven't had any issues on startup (my inputs on the HC4900 are DVI and Component). You should be able to tweak this easily enough for your setup by re-configuring your Harmony activities and adding a short delay then the input type command a second time. You can put in multiple delay steps if necessary.
post #2477 of 3711
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Originally Posted by jeffreydeng View Post

Have anyone used 'Warranty By Mack Television Or Projector 3 (Three) Year In - Home Bulb Replacement Warranty' by Marc?

It seems to be a good deal. However I am not sure whether it covers normal wear or only covers 'damage'. I would like to use standard mode in watching sports programs in day time. I wonder whether they cover the lamp after 2000 hours of normal viewing time.

Please share your experience and story with Marc and any comment is appreciated. I only have limited time before I can order becuas ethey request the order within 30 days of the purchase of the device.

By the way, I sent question via email last week and haven't got response back for several days.

I am also interested in an answer, but I was considering this one.
post #2478 of 3711
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Originally Posted by imuesmail View Post

Many pages ago I had written about my very positive experience re:the 4900. Today, I can easily say that this was a very worthwhile upgrade coming from my Sanyo Z2.

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Originally Posted by Summa View Post

Ditto...
Made the jump from a Z2 myself, and it's a very nice improvement with the 4900

Ditto... sort of...

My jump was from a Panasonic PT-L300U, which preceded the Sanyo Z2 by a year or so, and wasn't even a 720p unit. It's rez was 1/4 HD (540x960) and was a very popular model back in 2003. So the jump in picture quality and all the other goodies; resolution, sharpness, color richness, punch, contrast and black level is HUGE compared to what I had. I can't wait for the rebate to come in as I'll purchase a PS3 for the Blu Ray source and 1080p! My upconverting 1080i DVD player isn't bad in the meantime. Comcast HDTV looks spectacular on this unit and some 1080p content a friend streamed from his laptop were incredible.

Anyone sitting on the fence with an old Panny (I know there are other L300 owners out there - I recognize your names from the message boards 5 years ago! ...as well as the older L200U's and AE100's) - this is a major improvement, and at this price point, you can probably keep the HC4900 for as long as you've had your old projector and consider it a great value.
post #2479 of 3711
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Originally Posted by anonymouse99 View Post

I am also interested in an answer, but I was considering this one.

This ia actually better plan and we can replace the lamp ourselves. I read the description again and found following statement.

'Plan will furnish a replacement lamp (Up to two [2] replacement lamps during the term of this plan) that has failed and would normally be covered by the original manufacturer's written Warranty'

I believe that it means that it doesn't cover what manufacture doesn't cover for the lamp. Assuming that a lamp is being used beyond its life and failed, the lamp is considered as normal and manufacture will not cover that.

However I would question how they know how long the lamp has been used and how they validate the status of the lamp.

So I would really like to listen to the experience with this kind of warranty service.
post #2480 of 3711
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Originally Posted by Terpsfan View Post

Ditto... sort of...

My jump was from a Panasonic PT-L300U, which preceded the Sanyo Z2 by a year or so, and wasn't even a 720p unit.


My 4900 is a replacement for a Sanyo Z3 (native 720p) projector.

I've had the Z3 for almost 3 years and was very satisfied with it. BDs and HD-DVDs looked great on it. So i was concerned that the PQ difference between 720p native and 1080 native wouldn't be enough to justify the upgrade.

I'm happy to report i was WRONG. It's a BIG improvement.
post #2481 of 3711
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Originally Posted by stephenj View Post

My 4900 is a replacement for a Sanyo Z3 (native 720p) projector.

I've had the Z3 for almost 3 years and was very satisfied with it. BDs and HD-DVDs looked great on it. So i was concerned that the PQ difference between 720p native and 1080 native wouldn't be enough to justify the upgrade.

I'm happy to report i was WRONG. It's a BIG improvement.

I've had a little Samsung 32" LCD in here for the past couple of years. Even though I loved my Z2, particularly with movies and HD sports, the Samsung was clearly the image champ when you take size out of the equation. The way it is now, the Mitsubishi is the clear winner. The image is just as tight as my Sammy, which was something I didn't expect.

I know there are better projectors out there, but for the money this one is veyr hard to beat.
post #2482 of 3711
A few pics from Nemo and a PS3 initial screen and a couple more. The video is a lot better than pausing and taking pics.
http://picasaweb.google.com/imuesmai...ey=csPBJYevJFE
I wonder what NEMO in Blu-Ray might look like!!
gasdoc
post #2483 of 3711
Watched "Underworld" on the HC4900 on Blu Ray with uncompressed pcm audio track..Very impressive..Dark scenes looked good on High Contrast matte white screen (gain is 1.0 I think)..I'm no longer thinking "gee, are these black levels good enough?" because they look fine...Also,final cut of "Blade Runner" on HD DVD looked fantastic as well (also a "dark" movie as well"...) kf.
post #2484 of 3711
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Originally Posted by barryle View Post

Any suggestions on a projector mount for the HC4900?

i bought the Atdec TH-WH-PJ-FM from amazon for $34 after rebate. it works well, is well built and comes with the screws needed.
post #2485 of 3711
All of you will find out what true black bars at the top and bottom of 2.4:1 movies should be in a few days when I get some pictures up.

I said I would review the difference between a HD 1080p movie and a SD upconverted to 1080p movie. Well, I can see the difference. A large part is because I know what will be different between the two. It is mainly the texture on surfaces, city skylines, and anything else with a lot of detail where the upconverting doesn't get it right. But, if I had some friends or my parents over, watched a movie, and then asked them if they thought it was HD or SD, I'm not sure if they would get it right. It really depends on the movie as well. I've seen the 3D movies Cars and Ratatouille playing in the store, and the 1080p version would blow away any upconverted version.

LOTR in HD does look like this website shows it. And is worth getting anyway possible until we are able to buy it. Arrrgh..
http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/index.html
Shot 6 is the biggest difference, and shows what I mean about the small details that make it better.
post #2486 of 3711
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Originally Posted by jeffreydeng View Post

This ia actually better plan and we can replace the lamp ourselves. I read the description again and found following statement.

'Plan will furnish a replacement lamp (Up to two [2] replacement lamps during the term of this plan) that has failed and would normally be covered by the original manufacturer's written Warranty'

I believe that it means that it doesn't cover what manufacture doesn't cover for the lamp. Assuming that a lamp is being used beyond its life and failed, the lamp is considered as normal and manufacture will not cover that.

However I would question how they know how long the lamp has been used and how they validate the status of the lamp.

So I would really like to listen to the experience with this kind of warranty service.

I'm leery of the Mack Warranty because it's just one business backing it. I've bought warranties before and had the company belly up. This second warranty, Repairmaster, is a possibility BUT do they consider a lamp defective after 5k hours but still lighting up? Plus the issue of having to send the old lamp in and waiting and hoping the day comes when the new lamp arrives.

ALSO: will a replacement lamp be available? I tried buying one 4 to 5 years after purchasing my Mits VL2000 and it was no longer available. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the bulb warranty said, 'in the case of a lamp no longer being available we will buy you a new projector'. Admittedly, the 4900 is a big seller and uses the same lamp as the 5000 and 6000 so it might be around for quite a few years. Another BUT: it always seems a hassle to deal with warranty stuff.

Personally, I'd rather buy a 2nd lamp and test it and have it on hand. This is also a selling point when trying to sell a used projector. My usage is 12 hrs/week which equals 624 hrs/year. Even in the high lamp mode this will last me 3.2 years so a 3 year warranty isn't too important. There are 5 year warranties, but you can also buy a new bulb for $310 delivered. BUT, if the lamp does actually fail early, the warranty is a good thing. Looks like six and a half-dozen of the other.
post #2487 of 3711
tocaje makes some good points - one thing that has always concerned me is how easy it would be finding a bulb if you indeed get a 3-year warranty. Regardless of warranty, if a projector gets older, the bulb price might shoot up or the bulb might be hard to find.

In which case it might be better to just buy a 2nd bulb after the first one crosses 90 days (you get this other one, put it in, and keep the 1st bulb as a spare one!).
post #2488 of 3711
My dedicated theater room was a very light brown color. This weekend I decided to paint the entire room. Ceiling = flat black, Walls = darkest purple, trim = 1 shade lighter purple.

Verdict: WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cannot beleive how much of a difference this $50 upgrade did. The blacks and contrast are MUCH BETTER THAN BEFORE. Right now I'm using a Dalite HCCV fixed frame. The colors POP, the overall brightness is even brighter than normal mode (I use econ). AMAZING!!! Basically the picture looks like I'm running a High Powered screen, except that the blacks are even better and there is no viewing cone. Even my wife saw a HUGE DIFFERENCE! This coming from a person who could not tell the difference in picture quality between my old 4805 and the HC4900 (before batcave was established)

I know not everyone has the flexability to paint their room black/dark, but if you do DO NOT HESITATE TO DO SO!!
post #2489 of 3711
sog35, what is your screen size and placement distance from the projector?
post #2490 of 3711
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Originally Posted by anonymouse99 View Post

sog35, what is your screen size and placement distance from the projector?

92", about 13 feet from screen.
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