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post #31 of 118
I recently purchased a 242V (Black Friday, $699 at BJ's) which I understand is similar to the 242T. My set is connected directly to cable (no box) and I am able to get a few unscrambled HDTV broadcasts.

I had been using the RCA analog audio outputs to my Onyko HT reciever and reently tried the digital audio coax and optic to my Onyko which does not have HDMI. My DVD player connects to the TV with HDMI and audio out via optic to the Onyko. No audio using the 242V digital outputs and after researching found the 242V does not pass 5.1 audio.

I suspect the 242T has a similar problem as I am trying to find out if this is a design issue or will a future firmware upgrade support 5.1 pass through. While a Comcast HD subscription will provide the 5.1 through the set top box, I give them enough money and at this time do not want the HD service. I am able to get the HD Fox, CBS, ABC games and I am happy with the set's performance.
post #32 of 118
I used the Digital Video Essentials HD-DVD/DVD. I must warn folks that while the DVD side of the DVE Calibration disc has a guided tutorial of sorts and an in depth explanation of Home Theatre setups, the HD-DVD side as only the test screens along with brief text explanations of what you are to do. These brief explanations were pretty much worthless and I relied on reading a .PDF manual that you can get online from their website at http://videoessentials.com/dvehd/ima...gram_final.pdf.

This Disc has a ton of test screens, most of which the average person will not use. Many of them are intended for Professional TV service personnel with professional calibration and test equipment.

The DVE HD-DVD calibration screens that I used:
Chapter 1: PLUGE w/ Gray Scale
Chapter 5: 75% Color Bars w/ Reference Gray
Chapter 14: Reverse Gray Ramp w/Steps
SMPTE RP 133 Resolution Chart

My goal was to properly adjust Brightness & Contrast, Color & Tint & Sharpness. The crazy menu system that is so hard to learn at first actually comes in handy when adjusting the image as it stays thankfully out of the way.

My setup:
Olevia 242T
Xbox 360 using VGA cable - Output signal of 1360 x 768 60Hz
Xbox 360 HD-DVD add on drive

I started out by setting a few options right off the get go:

Menu > Picture > Noise Reduction > OFF
I later tested Noise reduction on the Resolution Chart and found that all settings of NR only made the image more blurry. Best if you just shut that off.

Menu > Picture > Color Temp > 6500K
6500K is NTSC standard color temperature. This is the color temperature that all the TV shows and movies you watch are calibrated to. That being said, many folks don't like using 6500K as it give the picture a much warmer look which has a practical effect of making image appear not as bright or adds a yellower feel to the whites. This one is really up to your personal preference, but might I suggest that you use 6500K for calibration and then switch back after your done if you prefer Native.

Menu > Picture > Mode > Lighting > Dark Room
The Beauty of using Dark Room for calibration is that you always have the option of quickly making the TV brighter by choosing Medium Room or Bright Room.

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And on to the Calibration:

Chapter 1: PLUGE w/ Gray Scale
The trick with this screen is to set the brightness level to the point where the dark outer black bar is just barely visible against the black background. And when I say barely visible I mean at a point that you really just about can't distinguish it from the background. (Don't worry if it's too dark you can adjust later. The key is doing the calibration properly and then going back and making adjustments as per your personal taste).

You can also adjust contrast levels here but I found the Pluge screen is difficult to adjust contrast on an LCD. Much more suited for CRT in my opinion.

Chapter 14: Reverse Gray Ramp w/Steps

You can use the Gray Ramps to adjust contrast levels. What your aiming for is that every single shade of grey is visible. Especially pay attention to the white bar at the end...you should be able to see a slight difference in the next bar even if it barely noticeable, the next bar over should not be white as well. It should be a slight shade of grey but nearly white. Once you get that you've got the contrast.

Chapter 5: 75% Color Bars w/ Reference Gray
For this step you will need the Color Filters card. This card includes a Green, Blue & Red filter that you will look through as your calibrating the set. First adjust your Color setting while looking through the blue filter at the reference chart. You are aiming for all of the areas of Blue to be of the same intensity. By adjusting color you will get close...by adjusting Tint you will get the adjustment fine tuned so that it's spot on. (See Page 34 of the PDF file)
You really only need to worry about the adjustment looking through the Blue Filter.

SMPTE RP 133 Resolution Chart
Use this chart to adjust your Sharpness level.

Unfortunately the Olevia doesn't give you numbers when your changing values. I figured out the scale goes from 0 - 100 and you can count the adjustments to get the value. The values are (X) spaces to the right of the far left of the scale. In other words start on the far left of the screen at 0 and click over X amount of times to get to the settings I am using. My disclaimer is that every TV set is slightly different and you really should perform the calibration yourself to fine tune accurately for your individual TV set. Your personal taste will also be different than mine but at least this is a good starting point.

My Final Settings:
Brightness: 28
Contrast: 80
Sharpness: 8 or 80 (This moves in increments of 10 so 8 steps)
Tint: 51
Color: 52
Noise Reduction: OFF
Mode > Lighting > Dark Room



Hope you all find this useful.
post #33 of 118
thanks for the post - very useful indeed.

I plan on getting a the Video Essentials DVD calibration disk soon, but in the meantime I followed your settings and there was indeed an inprovement in the picture.

thanks again....

POC
post #34 of 118
does anyone know how to remove the stand off of the 242T? There is absolutely NO information from Olevia on how to do this, and there are about 25 various screws which 'may' be the correct ones to remove.


On a side note, I have spent 45 minutes on the phone trying to get an Olevia representative to talk to, this may be due to me calling at 9:45 EST and/or a Sunday???
post #35 of 118
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Originally Posted by sinnian View Post

does anyone know how to remove the stand off of the 242T? There is absolutely NO information from Olevia on how to do this, and there are about 25 various screws which 'may' be the correct ones to remove.


On a side note, I have spent 45 minutes on the phone trying to get an Olevia representative to talk to, this may be due to me calling at 9:45 EST and/or a Sunday???

I think there's like a total of 6-8 screws you have to remove. You'll need a long Philip screw driver cause those screws in in very deep.



Good Luck.
post #36 of 118
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Originally Posted by garth10 View Post

I just bit the bullet and picked up the 242T at OD for 849. Have not tried to hook it up yet because I am an idiot and will wait for my other half to get here. Will order the HDTV cable box from cox and see how it goes. Some people are having problems with surround sound and I hope that is not going to be a problem. I am running it threw my reciever and plan to keep it that way.

I finally got around to testing the audio outputs out of the TV set into my Audio Amplifier.

Using the RCA Stereo outputs the amplifier shows that it is receiving Dolby Pro Logic II and I can hear that my front and rear L & R speakers are getting surround sound.

I also tried using the Digital Optical output from the TV to my Amp and again Dolby Pro Logic II showed and LPCM. The digital signal required for me to put the volume way up on my receiver to hear at the same level of the RCA outputs and sounded a bit more refined. I was watching a college football game at the time.

So it appears to me that the Audio outputs are working just as they should and I am not experiencing any problems with Surround Sound being carried out via either RCA or Optical connections.
post #37 of 118
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Originally Posted by deitiphobia View Post


-The 242T only has 1 coaxil input which thus far has lead to my only major disappointment with the TV and for me this is a real doozy! It appears to me that the TV can only be set to receive only Cable TV or only Over the Air channels via the coaxil input. So not only do I have to swap cables in the back of the set to between my cable and the rabbit ears...but I also have to go into the settings and tell the TV to search for channels each and every time I want to switch between Cable and Over the Air channels. I sure hope that I'm missing something and that there's a way to simply switch between Cable and Over the Air. I really like to watch Discover Channel and CNN on cable but often watch ABC, CBS & NBC in HiDef via the ATSC Tuner. If anyone knows of a better way to go about this....please let me know!!!

I have still had no luck figuring a way around this apparent design flaw. I cannot manually program in digital ATSC channels as it doesn't allow you to enter the .1, .2 ...etc. The TV does not remember the channels it Auto Scanned either, so everytime I switch between Cable and Over the Air antenna, I have to manually initiate an AutoScan for Channels that takes a few minutes each time.

Can anyone else verify this same behavior on thier set? Anyone know of a way around this other than me having to go get a cable box to use a different input for cable other than built in tuner?

I guess I'll have to call Olevia to get the official company word on this.
post #38 of 118
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Originally Posted by superjett View Post

I too have 21b firmware and the channel labeling issues, though here the labels revert back to the callsigns, so it's not that big of an issue except for a couple of channels.

As far as scaling/positioning, it's perfect with my 4 sources--ota/cable/computer/dvd, and the zoom aspects work properly, etc.

On the Chinese comments, you knew going in what you were buying so you really can't complain, the price offsets those issues.


Yeah, thanks for the help. I'm sure I know nothing about scaling since my only knowledge of video scaling comes from designing and implementing the Runco DHD scaler. Your input is so appreciated.

Now, would anybody who actually knows anything about this cheap LCD care to comment? I have contacted Olevia/Syntax-Brillan in the past to inquire about problems and there response has been "we don't support that" or "do not use that function" or "our remotes work very well".

Has anyone looked at the serial interface protocol? OMG, it's almost unusable - this is absolute rookie work.

Andrew
post #39 of 118
I just got a 242T, and I am having some issues with it, the people I bought it from say there is nothing wrong with it, but I think it has issues. The TV when hooked to different PCs either VGA or DVI->HDMI I dont know how to explain exactly but some of you may know that computer monitors when they do not have correct resolution display bad images, such as some parts of the screen are darker than the others(This is what is noticeable on websites, and writing. So what I have is the screen first not correctly displaying 1360x768, I have it currently hooked up with 1280x768, and if its 1360x768 it shows up in 4:3. Instead of 16:9, Movies look kind of grainy. Overall the tv is a refurbished model and I could not find a good deal for a new one so I picked it up. Now I am unsure how to solve my problem due to the person I purchased from looked at it and says it is fine. They do give 21 day warranty then 90 day at olevia now I am wondering if Olevia will come out for my TV if I call them or what will happen. Some insight on all of this from someone would be great. Thanks.
post #40 of 118
Like few other people who have been hanging on SD, I also got this on clearance in Target.
Poking around Olevia site I found a page there which gets you the correct firmware without going via FTP site or registration.
Just enter your FM number, and it brings up the latest FW.
OM
post #41 of 118
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Originally Posted by tehsu View Post

I just got a 242T, and I am having some issues with it, the people I bought it from say there is nothing wrong with it, but I think it has issues. The TV when hooked to different PCs either VGA or DVI->HDMI I dont know how to explain exactly but some of you may know that computer monitors when they do not have correct resolution display bad images, such as some parts of the screen are darker than the others(This is what is noticeable on websites, and writing. So what I have is the screen first not correctly displaying 1360x768, I have it currently hooked up with 1280x768, and if its 1360x768 it shows up in 4:3. Instead of 16:9, Movies look kind of grainy. Overall the tv is a refurbished model and I could not find a good deal for a new one so I picked it up. Now I am unsure how to solve my problem due to the person I purchased from looked at it and says it is fine. They do give 21 day warranty then 90 day at olevia now I am wondering if Olevia will come out for my TV if I call them or what will happen. Some insight on all of this from someone would be great. Thanks.

Have you tried different resolutions from your PC?
You can try 1280 x 768, 1280 x 800, 1280 x 720, 1360 x 768.
Try pressing the Aspect button on the remote to see if you can find an aspect where things look normal.

Are you using VGA or DVI with an HDMI adapter? Whatever your using, try the other connector and see if that works.
post #42 of 118
also picked this one up at Target on clearance last week...going to hook it up tomorrow and was hoping to pick up my local CBS HD broadcast to watch the football games in HD. Can I just run my current cable into the coax to receive the unscrambled free local HD feeds? Does the QAM tuner automatically find these channels? (I noticed someone above said you cannot enter the .1 of the channel with the remote) Thanks!

-matt
post #43 of 118
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Originally Posted by mattpka33 View Post

also picked this one up at Target on clearance last week...going to hook it up tomorrow and was hoping to pick up my local CBS HD broadcast to watch the football games in HD. Can I just run my current cable into the coax to receive the unscrambled free local HD feeds? Does the QAM tuner automatically find these channels? (I noticed someone above said you cannot enter the .1 of the channel with the remote) Thanks!

-matt

I was referring to not being able to manually add channels with .1, .2, etc when trying to do so in the menu. Once those channels are Auto Scanned though you can access them just fine.

Yes you can run current cable or a TV antenna into the coax and it can unscramble free local HD feeds. But it depends on your cable provider and if they have these free feeds. If they are there the Channel Auto Search will indeed find them.
post #44 of 118
great news, I checked and my local Time Warner should have the local networks in HD for free...thanks!

-matt
post #45 of 118
I just bought a display unit dirt cheap and I can't for the life of me find the darn USB port. Can someone help me out?
post #46 of 118
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Originally Posted by deitiphobia View Post

Have you tried different resolutions from your PC?
You can try 1280 x 768, 1280 x 800, 1280 x 720, 1360 x 768.
Try pressing the Aspect button on the remote to see if you can find an aspect where things look normal.

Are you using VGA or DVI with an HDMI adapter? Whatever your using, try the other connector and see if that works.

I tried everything, VGA and DVI to HDMI. Both hook weird, first VGA does 4:3 on 1360x768 and DVItoHDMI does 1360x768 but it doesnt sync correctly. Such as being cut off and some letters being darker than others as I am typing this half the letters look bold and half dont
Heres an example of how it looks

EXAMPLE
post #47 of 118
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Originally Posted by tehsu View Post

I tried everything, VGA and DVI to HDMI. Both hook weird, first VGA does 4:3 on 1360x768 and DVItoHDMI does 1360x768 but it doesnt sync correctly. Such as being cut off and some letters being darker than others as I am typing this half the letters look bold and half dont
Heres an example of how it looks

EXAMPLE

Set the refresh rate on your pc (Display settings, monitor tab) to 60 Hz. I guess it is sitting at 75 Hz.
Once you set to 60Hz you will be able to see 1360x768 and all other issues mentioned should go away.
post #48 of 118
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Originally Posted by mattpka33 View Post

great news, I checked and my local Time Warner should have the local networks in HD for free...thanks!

-matt

TW free HD is if you have the "digital" package. Although without out it I have been able to pick up all the HD channels that come with the "digital" package in our area (I live in Limerick, ME) except for the ESPN's, Universal HD, and MoJo. However, you'll also pick up 75.5. 75.6 and 75.7 which are are HD channels too, however they do not always come in and more frequently then not FREEZE the 242T, where you have to actually turn off the power button on the back of the tv.
post #49 of 118
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Originally Posted by aaranddeeman View Post

Set the refresh rate on your pc (Display settings, monitor tab) to 60 Hz. I guess it is sitting at 75 Hz.
Once you set to 60Hz you will be able to see 1360x768 and all other issues mentioned should go away.

Did that too, same problem
post #50 of 118
heard that some people were getting a HDMI cable in the box with some of these TVs...mine did not so I need to grab one for my HD-DVD player (Tosh A2)...is this all I need?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Thanks!

-matt
post #51 of 118
First time post.

I purchased the 242T about a week ago at OD for $799 and I love the TV especially since I've upgraded to the Di sh HD package.

However, I have one issue and a question for you all.

1- I have one problem with the white, fuzzy, boxy line at the top of the screen from time to time. I can adjust it out with the vertical setting. However, it does reappear over time. Any suggestions how to clear that up?

2- Aspect settings. What is the difference between the 1:1 Mode setting and the Aspect Mode setting?

One last question...did your TV's come with an HDMI cable...mine did not. Will Olevia send one out?

Thanks
post #52 of 118
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2- Aspect settings. What is the difference between the 1:1 Mode setting and the Aspect Mode setting?

It means that your TV set will only display the exact amount of pixels that the input signal provides. So lets say the input signal is from your laptop into the VGA port in the back. Lets say Your laptop is outputting a 640x480 signal. In 1:1 Mode the TV will display only the 640x480 resolution on the screen and not up convert the image so it fills the screen. This will leave the 640x480 image in the middle of the screen surrounded by lots of black space which is the unused pixels since your screen is capable of 1366x768 native resolution. To go full screen your display would have to interpolate several pixels for every 1 pixel to fill the screen with the same 640 x 480 resolution. So then it would be some other ratio like 5:1 for example or for every 1 pixel of the 640 x 480 resolution, the TV would convert those to 5 pixels to be able to fill the screen with the image.

More info on Wikipedia on Pixels: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel

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One last question...did your TV's come with an HDMI cable...mine did not. Will Olevia send one out?

The TV does not come with an HDMI cable. Most TV's do not, just as they don't come with component, VGA or any other video/audio cables. It is usually your output device that comes with cables (DVD Player, Xbox, etc.)

Check out monoprice.com for really inexpensive HDMI cables. Don't buy them from local stores you will get ripped off.
post #53 of 118
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Originally Posted by gopher2k View Post

I just bought a display unit dirt cheap and I can't for the life of me find the darn USB port. Can someone help me out?

Look on the back of the set...there is a sticker that tells you where it is. The port is not visible when looking down...you have to crouch down and look up from the bottom part to see the port. It's not a USB port like you would have on your computer....but the connector that you would find on a printer. So you plug normal USB side into computer and the other side into the TV directly.
post #54 of 118
I just picked one of these up from OD, and it's my 1st foray into HDTV...so I'm lost. How do I change it to 1080i, or is that something that the tv does automatically based on the signal it receives?

Thanks in advance for the help.
post #55 of 118
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Originally Posted by CSquare43 View Post

I just picked one of these up from OD, and it's my 1st foray into HDTV...so I'm lost. How do I change it to 1080i, or is that something that the tv does automatically based on the signal it receives?

Thanks in advance for the help.

You must supply the TV with a 1080i signal. That can happen via VGA, HDMI or Component inputs...also via the tuner that will pick up over the air HD broadcast in 1080i.

You will need rabbit ears and set the TV to scan Over the Air channels to view HD over the air broadcast.
post #56 of 118
I finally called Olevia tech support to find out official word on this issue. It took about 8 minutes before I got someone on the phone. She was kind and helpful and then referred me on to another level of tech support. I waited another 3 or 4 minutes before they came on the line.

They said there was no way around having to scan for channels each time you switch between Over The Air Antenna and Cable. It would have been great if this TV had 2 tuners...that would solve my problem. Looks like I will have to get a cable box or a VCR or some device that has a tuner built in to then send the output to my TV via S-Video. I will then leave my Tuner for the Over the Air antenna.
post #57 of 118
When you want to access or manually scan for a channel like say 91.5, try 'Channel Add' for 91 and see if it scans the entire 91.XX range and permits you to access channels that are active at the time within that range.

I have a different model Olevia, and the above works for me for 91, 92, 93 and 94. I do not know if the same process would work OTA as I have yet to use that tuner.

JAM
post #58 of 118
Since I have my 242T mounted on the wall I do not have access the the firmware number on the back. I thought that the number that you can get via the OSD would be "that" number, but the Olevia site did not recognize it. Sooooooooooo..................... instead of taking the tv down, would someone verify that the 21B "IS" the latest (if not only) firmware update?

Thanks ~ Jeff
post #59 of 118
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Originally Posted by tehsu View Post

I tried everything, VGA and DVI to HDMI. Both hook weird, first VGA does 4:3 on 1360x768 and DVItoHDMI does 1360x768 but it doesnt sync correctly. Such as being cut off and some letters being darker than others as I am typing this half the letters look bold and half dont
Heres an example of how it looks

EXAMPLE

I just got my 242T a few days ago and had this problem when I first hooked it up to my PC via VGA. The PC's resolution is 1360x768, but the TV's is 1366x768, so I think that problem was from the TV stretching the image horizontally those extra 6 pixels. When I set the aspect on the VGA input to 1:1, the effect you described went away. You lose 3 pixels on the left and 3 on the right... not by cropping the image, but the image just doesn't make use of those extra pixels. Text looks great now, so I don't mind that too much.
post #60 of 118
Sorry for the long post. I hope to help someone else.
I have been having trouble with my display model I bought in December from Target the last week. When the TV is turned on for the first time each day there is popping and snapping with horizontal white lines that lasts for about 10 seconds then all is normal. It has been happening more often the last few days. I called Olevia and they had me try different things ( plug tv and cable box in seperate plugs, plug tv in surge suppressor, unplug tv and all cables for 2 hours etc) Nothing worked and when I called today was put thru to level 2 tech support and they are giving me another tv. At first they said an open box one will be sent to me all I had to do was send a copy of my receipt to them in an email. I called back again and got another level 2 tech and I asked to speak to a supervisor about wanting a new tv. I was put on ignore/ hold and he came back on and he talked to a supervisow who authorized a new replacement. It should be here in 7-10 days. I tried talking to Target corporate office about getting a new tv from the store which I know there are none left. I tried getting them to upgrade tv to the newer model. No go. All they will do is give me my money back and let me buy the new model at the current price (not a slickdeal). I am able to transfer the extended warranty to the new tv thru Target. If anybody needs more info on this let me know how I can help. If you are nice on the phone it helps.
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