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post #31 of 2877
Tom.

Did you test with Hd Dvd or Blue Ray palyers?

What are the most importants diferences to H31?

Thanks
post #32 of 2877
post #33 of 2877
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Originally Posted by Steve Dodds View Post

I'm all for CIH, but think if you are going that way it should be 2.35 CIH. As it is your 2.01 screen will still have black bars for 4:3 material as I suspect cropping or stretching that will be more problematic.

So my main disappointment is that you didn't go far enough. Like a permanent anamorphic lens.

how can you be disappointed when a projector in the less than $1000 price range didn't come with a permanent anamorphic lens. Thats like someone being disappointed when their new $10,000 minivan doesn't have 600hp and a 20'' plasma in the back.

Atleast the guy made a push for something that might please some people. Its better than nothing but another projector with the same features.
post #34 of 2877
I don't expect an anamorphic lens for under $1000.

I just don't see how anyone, certainly anyone on this forum, can show excitement over a feature that will distort the image of everything you play through it.
post #35 of 2877
I dont know if i would say it distorts it. It cuts a small % off but according Guitarman it doesnt compromise quality of the image.
post #36 of 2877
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Actually you get 100 pixels more in vertical res, even before I knew this I commented it does the full screen but doesn't soften the image which is different. Now I know why. Correct just 5% of the far outside isn't anything to fret about. Seeing the image larger without the bars out weighs that IMO. I'm not saying you can't feel for the 5% we all have that right.
post #37 of 2877
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Originally Posted by cfs View Post

Tom.

Did you test with Hd Dvd or Blue Ray palyers?

What are the most importants diferences to H31?

Thanks

I still have and use the first Tosh HDA1 and the projector handled it great, also Cable HDTV.
post #38 of 2877
This projector looks cool, mostly because of its tiny size.
The only things that bother me (just on paper without ever trying it of course) are the noise levels and the design.
post #39 of 2877
Thread Starter 
It's pretty quiet in econo.
post #40 of 2877
Does anybody know if the HD65 supports "deep color"? I'm in the market for a new projector. My receiver and BD player are both deep color capable. It would be really sweet if my new projector had that technology as well.
post #41 of 2877
Looks like the offset if I read it right will work for me where the HD70 which I have and not opened it yet would have been tough. If I read the Optoma manual right its only 10" for a 110" screen.
post #42 of 2877
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Originally Posted by Tubeer View Post

Does anybody know if the HD65 supports "deep color"? I'm in the market for a new projector. My receiver and BD player are both deep color capable. It would be really sweet if my new projector had that technology as well.

So...I see you've been taken in by the latest marketing blitz?

Even the best DLPs have relatively pedestrian bit depth, so I doubt you'll see much (if any) improvement from the much-ballyhooed "deep color."
post #43 of 2877
Just when you think manufacturers throw in the towel on 720p, here comes Optoma again. Some nice innovations. Thanks for posting, Tom.
post #44 of 2877
Tom,

Are the HDMI inputs 1.3a? Nothing in the preliminary specs stating.

Thanks.

Troy
post #45 of 2877
Thread Starter 
Probably the later 1.3 I'll ask. I see they say 95% uniformity in the stats, they were telling me the lens choice for the projector is excellent. Looks small to me but I guess it's all in the glass. Pictures do look nice and sharp.
post #46 of 2877
Tom,

is there a way to link the super wide pics again? they're down on your first post.
post #47 of 2877
Link to manual:
http://marketing.optomausa.com/PDFs/...D65_Manual.PDF

Page 45 of the manual has a chart that indicates 1080p 60/50/24

http://www.optomausa.com/Product_det...roduct_id=341#
Under The "features" section it states it is HDMI 1.3 compatable
post #48 of 2877
Thanks for the manual file link. If I calculate it right, the offset is about 19% of screen height. That's compared to 40% in HD70. Pretty neat.
post #49 of 2877
In the Specs Datasheet, there is 1.78:1 AR mentioned besides the already 16:9 native. Shouldn't the 1.78:1 been 2.0:1 because of the new Super-wide feature? is it a typo or am I missing something here?
post #50 of 2877
I am a bit surprised the HD65 is not getting more attention! Given the following that the HD70 has I thought this would be a hit on this forum. Well maybe I will just have to get one and see how it measures up.

edit:
Looks like it is up on projector central - http://www.projectorcentral.com/Optoma-HD65.htm

2nd edit:
There is conflicting info on the warranty. I see it listed on several sites as having 2 year warranty's but on Optima's it is listed as 1.
post #51 of 2877
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Originally Posted by V.X.Donique View Post

Tom,

is there a way to link the super wide pics again? they're down on your first post.

Look for nobar in the links the first two phots have been fixed now, thx
post #52 of 2877
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Originally Posted by TzungILin View Post

We had that covered in the design.

HD65 Super wide feature is default to be OFF, which means HD65 preserves all the info as you wish.

But with the feature available for your control, one can play around with it and see if they like it.

To have one "free" feature for those Constant-Height-minded folks, why not? It's like an "invislbe moveable 16x9 lens" ... If you don't want it, don't activate it. Simple.


Great idea, even though you'll find a lot of "flak" from us AVSers.

Not everyone is as picky as us.

Will this idea be applied towards one of your 1080P projectors?

Tom, maybe you know?
post #53 of 2877
How do you think this would compare to the Mitsubishi HC1500/Hd1000u? I have the HC1500 ("upgraded" from the Optoma H56) and a 138" diag screen, and have not been happy with the hc1500, in fact I've gotten frustrated trying to get good black levels and haven't watched a movie on it in about a month. Bright/daytime scenes are great but the Dark scenes are very distracting, I've tweaked with AVIA and messed around with HTPC settings and just can't get the picture that I got with the H56. I always watch movies with the lights off, black ceilings and dark walls, etc. so I am looking for the best picture with good black detail. So, do you think it would be worth it to sell the Mits and try this one out? I like the idea of the superwide option, I have a masking panel that I put up on the bottom of the screen, and if I understand you correctly, I can shift the picture up or down from the projector and mask that way instead of having to rely on theatertek to move the picture up and down. I respect your opinion Tom, you were one of the voices that led me to the H56 which was a terrific projector that I would have kept but I wanted to upgrade to a widescreen projector. Anyhoo, Please let me know your thoughts, thanks!

If this will be a step down from the mitsubishi, anyone have a suggestion of another 720p dlp that will give noticeably better black levels? I had thought about the hd3000u, the only reason I got the hc1500 instead of the hd3000 is because I thought the extra lumens might help with the large screen and the 1280x768 res confused me.
post #54 of 2877
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Originally Posted by blakemcginnis View Post

How do you think this would compare to the Mitsubishi HC1500/Hd1000u? I have the HC1500 ("upgraded" from the Optoma H56) and a 138" diag screen, and have not been happy with the hc1500, in fact I've gotten frustrated trying to get good black levels and haven't watched a movie on it in about a month. Bright/daytime scenes are great but the Dark scenes are very distracting, I've tweaked with AVIA and messed around with HTPC settings and just can't get the picture that I got with the H56. I always watch movies with the lights off, black ceilings and dark walls, etc. so I am looking for the best picture with good black detail. So, do you think it would be worth it to sell the Mits and try this one out? I like the idea of the superwide option, I have a masking panel that I put up on the bottom of the screen, and if I understand you correctly, I can shift the picture up or down from the projector and mask that way instead of having to rely on theatertek to move the picture up and down. I respect your opinion Tom, you were one of the voices that led me to the H56 which was a terrific projector that I would have kept but I wanted to upgrade to a widescreen projector. Anyhoo, Please let me know your thoughts, thanks!

If this will be a step down from the mitsubishi, anyone have a suggestion of another 720p dlp that will give noticeably better black levels? I had thought about the hd3000u, the only reason I got the hc1500 instead of the hd3000 is because I thought the extra lumens might help with the large screen and the 1280x768 res confused me.

If you dont mind tinkering, you can black out the white section on the mits. colorwheel. It should definately improve your blacks, and Im sure others would like to see what kind of improvement you get. I thought about getting the 1500 also, but after reading about people complain about black levels Ill stick to buying something without a white sec on the wheel.
post #55 of 2877
I've heard about that, but I'm not brave enough to do that to a new machine
post #56 of 2877
thx Tom,

looks good...
post #57 of 2877
OK I bit the bullet... I should have it on Wednesday. Nice price from one of the forum sponsors. I will report back my initial impressions and get together a detailed report later in the week/weekend. I have a spider and HCFR to do some basic calibration and greyscale measurements.
post #58 of 2877
TzungILin,
What made you decide to price the HD70 so agressively when it came out? Starting the 720p DLP for below $1000 craze really benefited many users on this forum including myself. Thanks!
post #59 of 2877
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Originally Posted by jem454 View Post

If you dont mind tinkering, you can black out the white section on the mits. colorwheel. It should definately improve your blacks, and Im sure others would like to see what kind of improvement you get. I thought about getting the 1500 also, but after reading about people complain about black levels Ill stick to buying something without a white sec on the wheel.

Yea me too, I know I don't want a white seg on the wheel and theres nothing out there thats RGB/RGB 720P and in the $750 range like the current budget PJ's. I hoped something would appear buy now either a IN72 with a 720P DMD or something. I guess there are just catering to the Video Game market that will be played during the daytime and don't really care about tweaking for D65 and a HT set up. I see there is some choice but I don't want to pay $1,300 with 1080p around the corrner and under $2,000 very soon.
post #60 of 2877
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Originally Posted by p@55w0rd View Post

OK I bit the bullet... I should have it on Wednesday. Nice price from one of the forum sponsors. I will report back my initial impressions and get together a detailed report later in the week/weekend. I have a spider and HCFR to do some basic calibration and greyscale measurements.


That's great, just hold it in the palm of your hand and hook it up. The little projector is a powerhouse of light yet still has a very good black level, you should like it. No white segment here just colors and spinning 4x speed so you shouldn't be bothered by the rainbow effect, I wasn't my wife couldn't see any when trying either. Just remember Cinema is about 600 lumens, choose bright and it shoots to 1600lumens. You could try that during the day, maybe a Sunday football game. For Cinema try lowering brilliant color to number 1.
Have fun
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