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post #61 of 75
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Originally Posted by igreg View Post

If it wasn't enough that the new GUI by DirecTV screwed up my recording of SD in my living room as I watch HD, it has virtually rendered it impossible for me to record HD in my master bedroom!

I have a standard 4:3 television in that room (meaning it does not take component inputs from the DirecTV HR20 receiver), so with this new GUI I cannot record in HD! Prior to this new GUI I could watch in SD and record in HD. I then could very easily transfer the HD recording to my computer via the component outputs of the HR20 using the Haupauge HD PVR, and then burn the HD recordings in HD to DVD-R or DVD+R disks for archiving and/or uploading in HD to YouTube.

Does anyone know if a component to composite connector will solve this problem, or will the still necessary RCA cables for the sound still result in problems? Thank You.

Until DirecTV can fix the issue with their outputs, you should look for a device like the Pixel Magic MTV 7000D.
post #62 of 75
I've read through this whole thread and the only questions I have are these:

How do all these HD torrents get circulated? As in TV shows. I'll see 720p TV show rips up immediately after the initial broadcast runs, how do THEY do this?

Am I to believe a particular person watches the show's initial broadcast while running a video capture via component (since it's been stated video capture won't work via HDMI) and edits out the commercials, then uploads the torrent in mkv format? All within 30 minutes of the shows completion?

It just blows my mind how fast these torrents are uploaded.

I'll say this, one of my favorite shows is American Restoration, I have nearly every episode since the beginning archived on my DirecTV HR20-700. I'd like to be able to transfer these to my PC, in case my box ever tanks (which is highly likely since it's going on 5 years old now). I'd like to edit out the commercials and put all the episodes on my external hard drive, yet retain the 720p resolution.

Many may say, go buy the BluRay, well guess what..... there is no BluRay of the show. I'm not going to upload these episodes, I merely want to back them up onto an external for my own viewing pleasure. So what are my options? Would the Hauppauge 1212 HD-PVR work in my case?

Is it as simple as running the component cord from the HR20 to the Hauppague unit, then hooking the unit up to my PC?

It is quite frustrating losing archived recordings when a DirecTV box goes bad, I've had it happen more than once in my 10 years with DirecTV. The fact they won't let us archive our recordings onto another DirecTV approved box is beyond me.

Any help would be appreciated.
post #63 of 75
Just stumbled on to this thread as I was looking for a solution. Here is an article dealing with this exact issue. It's really an easy way to record shows from your DVR to your PC.
post #64 of 75
All Ive ever done with DirecTV on live shows or movies is hit the record button and it works fine!
post #65 of 75
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Originally Posted by KOTULCN View Post

I have recorded some stuff on my Directv HD DVR, and I want to rip it to my PC so I can save it, is this even possible?

With the Hauppauge HD PVR you can record HD to your PC's hard drive via the component outputs of your DirecTV DVR. The Hauppauge HD PVR comes with software to enable the recording. It also comes with software, albeit not too user friendly, to burn the HD recordings to DVD-R or DVD+R (you can record longer video using DVD+R DL or DVD-R DL). DVD-R and DVD+R are known as BD5 and the double layer is known as BD9. The Hauppauge HDR also lets you record in 5.1 Dolby Digital by using the optical output of your DirecTV DVR. The DirecTV receiver is connected first to the Hauppauge HD DVR and then via a USB cable from the Hauppauge HD DVR to your PC. (Caveat: I don't know if it is related, but during real-time recording I have had the DirecTV screensave pop up, ruining the recording)

These are AVCHD recordings and will play back in your Blu-Ray player; e.g., Sony PS3, in HD, although the resolution is capped at 13.5 Mbps (although I have seen it higher in my recordings; the level of resolution changes from scene to scene in your recordings). Most camcorders record in AVCHD and limit your resolution to 18 Mbps if burning to DVD. To achieve greater resolution, you need to burn to Blu-Ray; e.g., BD-R or BD-RE. These give you the capability of burning at least 2.5 hours of the highest HD quality (or 5 hours with double layer). With DVD DL you are limited to about 75-80 minutes of HD at 13.5 Mbps.

The software that comes with the Hauppauge HD DVR makes editing difficult, and any edit can only be burned to a DVD-R or DV+R. You cannot burn to BD-R. However, by purchasing software such TMPGEnc Authoring Works 5 you can easily edit the recordings at the single frame level and burn to BD-R. Plus the edited file is saved to your PC's hard drive (with the included Hauppauge software any edited file is not saved to your PC's hard drive). So you can record a three-hour show such as the Grammys and by editing the commercials the entire program can fit easily onto a single BD-R, which can now be purchased for about one dollar a disk.

What is really cool is that with Windows Media Center and the Hauppauge external TV tuner (WinTV-HVR-1950) you can record over-the-air ATSC signals (HD signals) to your PC, and via using the TMPGEnc Authoring Works 5 software you can burn these recordings from your PC to either DVD or BD-R. And the quality here is better than the Hauppauge HD DVR. I have seen recordings as high as 25 Mbs. And it records in Dolby Digital 5.1
post #66 of 75
Thanks for the post.

Have a few questions:

First of all, what is the standard codec when ripping the programs? Is it AVCHD? How does one make their file into the MKV container? I get all my torrents in MKV codec because it plays flawlessly on my Samsung plasmas via my external hard drive and the USB input. I also get 5.1 and 7.1 DD surround sound when it's available.

Secondly, I always see the suffix "x264" on my torrent files, what does this suffix pertain to? I know with the Hauppauge device lists H264 in the description, what's the difference between X264 and H264?

I'm ready to pull the trigger on a Hauppauge device, especially if I can archive shows that I currently do not have. Such as 'Counting Cars' on History Channel, I have every episode of 1-13 except episode 4, for some reason it was never uploaded in 720p into the torrent community, very odd, but this does happen. Well I have episode 4 on my HD DVR and would like to add it to the series to complete the episodes.

This has happened with other shows before as well, for some reason, uploaders will miss an episode and it can be found nowhere.

Thanks-
post #67 of 75
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Originally Posted by MVLJR View Post

First of all, what is the standard codec when ripping the programs? Is it AVCHD?

AVCHD isn't a codec, it's a specific disc/media format - that covers codec for audio and video, container, directory structure, filesystem type, etc. AVCHD uses H.264 as its video codec, and co-opts some of the Blu-Ray file structure.
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How does one make their file into the MKV container?

I generally use tools like ffmpeg for simply remultiplexing, if you're just converting from an AVCHD stream file (an MPEG-2 transport stream) to a .mkv file. Not sure what there is for pointy-clicky tools for just straight remuxing.
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I also get 5.1 and 7.1 DD surround sound when it's available.

Dolby Digital only does 5.1 at max. DD EX matrixes in a rear surround channel, but it's not a discrete channel, so it's generally not counted - and 7.1 isn't supported at all.
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Secondly, I always see the suffix "x264" on my torrent files, what does this suffix pertain to? I know with the Hauppauge device lists H264 in the description, what's the difference between X264 and H264?

H.264 is the ISO/IEC standard for MPEG-4 Part 10 (aka MPEG-4 AVC). x264 is an open-source H.264 encoding library which is fairly popular (as ffmpeg, and many other tools which both are and are not based on ffmpeg, thus make use of it).
post #68 of 75
Thanks for the replies.

I'm trying to follow along, LOL

As for the x264, you're saying it's the editing software that would convert the file into x264 and MKV?

I just want to know how to get shows off my HD DVR and into x264 MKV format. So that would all be on the software side of things instead of the actual piece of hardware?

Thanks-
post #69 of 75
You create H.264 video streams with the x264 software. For example, if you record a video of yourself playing video game, x264 can compress the massive raw video file into a smaller H.264 file. You would then also need to convert the raw audio into a compressed format, such as MP3 or AAC, and then mux the video and audio into a container, such as MKV. You can use mkvtoolnix to mux and demux MKV files. MP4box is also an option if you want to use the MP4 container instead of MKV.
post #70 of 75
Thanks so much for that reply.

I'm finally understanding the methods for creating torrents.

Any recommendations for software?

I'm going to get the Hauppauge device. Any Mac friendly software that you know of? I have a Macbook Pro with Mountain Lion.
post #71 of 75
Any thoughts on this new Hauppauge?

http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-Edition-Definition-Capture-Passthrough/dp/B008ZT8QKO/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

I see it has HDMI in and out, but wouldn't this be bad, due to HDCP through HDMI?
Edited by MVLJR - 12/4/12 at 4:49pm
post #72 of 75
It seems this thread may be a bit behind the curve, at least insofar as the HDCP issue goes.

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/334145-HDCP-strippers?p=2239125#post2239125

A couple of generally reliable VH members have posted that this unit works, but as I mentioned there I would still need an HTPC -- either equipped with its own capture card, or together with one of those separate Hauppauge units -- in order to test this out. I'm pretty sure there are now other reasonably priced stripper units on the market. Prior to this, there were of course the more pricey counter-HDCP solutions (only over Component ?), the HD-Fury and the one from Moone.

To date, I have only recorded off of my DirecTV receivers in SD, via the S-Video output to a standalone DVDR. In the last several months of doing that, the process was greatly hindered, either by that very annoying "wrong cables connected" message popping up, or much worse, spontaneous reboots of the D* receiver box within the first 30 minutes of transferring a 2-hour recording. I did not mind archiving to SD, as the tradeoff was a rather easy facility for removing commercials or other unwanted material, setting chapters, selecting thumbnails etc. in the DVDR. It also provided one easy step to DVD. If these glitches introduced by the later D* GUI or firmware cannot be overcome by my burgeoning collection of gizmos, well, I'm open to switching to an HD recording chain, if that's what it takes. Probably not what those responsible for this SD roadblock had in mind . . . . (I did get the Lenking HDMI to S-Video and Component to S-Video converters as possible counter-measures, but my D* DVR-receivers croaked before I ever got around to trying them out, and I'm only just now in the process of replacing those receivers.)

In one of the threads I was reading about the Hauppauge boxes, someone mentioned a serious tech / PQ limitation that could be more of an issue than was the HDCP. Something about supported 'Profiles' ? I need to find that post again.

In the meantime, here's another thread that may be of some interest:
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/354831-How-to-record-TV-show-to-PC-using-HAUPPAUGE-HD-PVR-DEVICE
post #73 of 75
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Originally Posted by Seeker47 View Post

In one of the threads I was reading about the Hauppauge boxes, someone mentioned a serious tech / PQ limitation that could be more of an issue than was the HDCP. Something about supported 'Profiles' ? I need to find that post again.

Both H.262 and H.264 have various "profiles" that describe the encoding features that are permitted, and they also have various "levels" that describe the supported resolutions and framerates. Most hardware players support H.262 Main Profile @ High Level ("MP@HL") and H.264 High Profile @ Level 4.1 ("HiP@L4.1"). Using profiles or levels higher than these will likely result in files that are only playable on a PC.
post #74 of 75
yeah. you can use the cheap, rca type splitters to split video from either component or composite outputs via the back of the directv receivers. i was a tech for almost 4 years and quite a few times i split the audio, as well as the video right off the back using those crap-splitters and sent it to hdtvs well over 50" in bars, etc. never even detected a noticeable loss in signal quality (although im sure it was there, if u cant notice a loss on 50", side-by-side, hdtv's i doubt your going to notice on youtube!) just sayin...it can and it has been done.
post #75 of 75

The only thing I've been able to do is get them to a DVD. Going kind of old school but using one of the VHS/DVD combo players then have your DVR playing the show that you want....Then put in a blank VHS and hit record then once it is done copy it to the DVD using the Player.

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