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post #1441 of 2112
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How many hours in a row were you using it? I ask because my first VW200 never really changed in sound the entire time I had it. I have noticed with this VW200 which was manufactured much later that it does get a little louder after a couple hours of "on" time. And this one went Laredo in August and had a new power supply installed. Here is what I have dicovered. If I turn on the High Cooler Setting it settles down and is perfectly fine. If I leave that setting on for about 5 minutes or so and then turn it back to the Regular Setting it is as quiet as when I first turned it on. Even with the High Cooler Setting activated it is not that loud. My new gameplan is if I am watching 2 movies the first I go regular then for the second High Cool. I can switch it between movies while I am loading the next movie.
post #1442 of 2112
Humm will have to check this "cooling setting" out, will get back to you on that. I remember someone else on this thread having similar problems way at the beginning of this thread, dont remember how that turned out but Ill try the "cooler" thing first. THX!
post #1443 of 2112
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Keep us posted.
post #1444 of 2112
It worked. The cool high setting killed the noise but now the VW200 sound level is more like my old VW-10HT. Well that never bothered me anyway! Ill have to see if the sound level will change any over time but if I turn the VW200 to a low setting again the "sound" comes back. So Im stuck on High setting as is. Thanks again Joe
post #1445 of 2112
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Try going back to regular after around 5 minutes. I have and it is gone for awhile but it will eventually return. We were watching Saturday Night Fever and I forgot I put it in the High Cooler setting and couldn't even tell anyway...
post #1446 of 2112
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Originally Posted by THUNDER8268 View Post

My VW200 started to make some slight noise yesterday. The timer is just at 210 hours. I think its coming from the lamp. Sounds like slight electrical buzz (or like someone rolling a candy whraper in his hand). Its distracting in very quiet scenes but is not noticable at "normal" sound levels when watching a film. The VW200 did not do this before now. Hope it does not get any worse! I recall having read something like this, earlier in this thread but cant seem to find it. Has anyone any info. on this?


This sounds like hum caused by power issues in your home. Read here.
post #1447 of 2112
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Originally Posted by Lawguy View Post

This sounds like hum caused by power issues in your home. Read here.

Seems to me Joe and I have a similar problem. Do not think its electrical "in the House" as I have special refrence power cables/cords, blocks, silencers, purifiers etc. (from Kimber etc.) and I have not had any problems with any of my other electrical "stuff" and where talking lots of "stuff" for many years. Not had a problem like this untill now with any of my older projectors. The only thing I might try out now is running a special power cord to the VW200 as I only have the original power cord to it as the "snap" on the VW200 would not allow for a bigger "special one". But this runs to a special block with a silencer on it, like I have on most of my electrical endings. Ill try a special Kimber power cable to the VW200 and see what happens, just for the fun of it. Where on AV Sience forum right! Seems to me that the VW200 is especially sensitive to heat. And Joe, yes I do not notice the High setting either, unless I think of it.
post #1448 of 2112
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Oh yeah, this is not an electrical hum issue. I wish it was though. I have never had it with my first VW200 and or with the FPJ1/RS2 and right after RS20. It doesn't start up until this VW200 has been on a couple hours. Like I mentioned though, it is not a deal breaker and since this unit has already been in for a power supply change it must be the new norm for them. No worries...
post #1449 of 2112
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Oh yeah, this is not an electrical hum issue. I wish it was though. I have never had it with my first VW200 and or with the FPJ1/RS2 and right after RS20. It doesn't start up until this VW200 has been on a couple hours. Like I mentioned though, it is not a deal breaker and since this unit has already been in for a power supply change it must be the new norm for them. No worries...

Tried the Kimber power cord. Well it turned out like one of those Mythbusters episodes where nothing goes exactly as planned, but you have some sort of "compromise" ending anyway. Well this is what happened. The power cord did not fit into the VW200 socket because of the "plug holder socket" (knew that before) but I thought I screw it of with the two screws holding it. Turns out the two screws hold more than the "plug holder socket" because all the socket including the AC in socket itself with the three pins came loose. Well I quickly screwed it back in place and as I was not about to take down the VW200 and tear it to peaces for this experiment. The Mythbuster would have but they are crazy anyway and dont have to pay for the stuff they destroy. Well only thing I could do now was put the shortest extension I could find from the Kimber cable to the VW200. It turnes out the Kimber cable and extension did not do anything for the "noise" and I have the VW200 back on the High cooler setting. The moral of this story being Sony is not High-End friendly cable wise (stupid plug holder) and High-End power cords will "most likely" not stop "the noise". So back to the drawing board?
post #1450 of 2112
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I am able to fit my Monster Powerline 300 powercord in it...
post #1451 of 2112
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

I am able to fit my Monster Powerline 300 powercord in it...

Then we know power cords can not fix the "noise" problem and that some High End cables fit the VW200 but not all. VW200 owners should therefore check well the AC in socket of the VW200 before they buy their High End power cords.
post #1452 of 2112
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I am even using one of those Mini Monster Powercenters with the outlet in my ceiling. I have always since day one.
post #1453 of 2112
God. I luv you guys but this is really funny. Trying to fix a buzz coming from inside your projector. Somebody diagnosing its coming from bad house power and someone else tring to fix it with a new power cord.

I`ll be more intelligent. JUST UNPLUG IT. NO MORE NOISE. DUH.
post #1454 of 2112
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Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

God. I luv you guys but this is really funny. Trying to fix a buzz coming from inside your projector. Somebody diagnosing its coming from bad house power and someone else tring to fix it with a new power cord.

I`ll be more intelligent. JUST UNPLUG IT. NO MORE NOISE. DUH.

If you dont have a buzz dont make a fuzz
post #1455 of 2112
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Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

God. I luv you guys but this is really funny. Trying to fix a buzz coming from inside your projector. Somebody diagnosing its coming from bad house power and someone else tring to fix it with a new power cord.

I`ll be more intelligent. JUST UNPLUG IT. NO MORE NOISE. DUH.

Why didn't I think of that?!
post #1456 of 2112
Is this the same sound as the vw100 "crickets" problems?
post #1457 of 2112
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My VW100 never had cricket. I don't think it sounds like crickets. Just like it is in overdrive and a little harsh. Setting it to the High Cool setting completely cures it.
post #1458 of 2112
The only time I ever had a buzz caused by bad A/C was from a noisy dimmer switch on the same cicuit. Going to a dedicated 20amp run solved the buzz. Equipment buzz, that is .....

I have an older 200 and can report no such anomaly. As you guys imply, perhaps it is a quirk of the newer power supplies.
post #1459 of 2112
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Since I now have had both (very first run and now one of the latest) I would vote for your second suggestion.
post #1460 of 2112
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Originally Posted by rabident View Post

Is this the same sound as the vw100 "crickets" problems?

Well been looking at this "crickets" problem on other older VW100 threads. Yes I would say my VW200 "noise" resembles this "crickets" sound, well more like one shy "cricket" (by the way we do not have crickets where I live but some Idiots around here do "play cricket", but thats another story). Anyway looks to similar to be ignored. Seems to me VW100 owners had no way of getting rid of the "crickets" unless they changed lamps and then the "crickets" often came back. Usual quote was 300 hours for a first "cricet" attack. My attack was at 210 hours. But we in the VW200 have a simpler solution than lamp replacement, just put on the "High cooler" setting and the problem is fixed! Which brings me to the big question for all you former VW100 owners out there. Did the VW100 have a High and Low Cooler setting? If not, then why one in the VW200, but to fix those damn VW100 "crickets"! Well I for one do not belive the VW200 operating instructions that state;
High: Use this setting when using this projector at an altitude of 1.500m or higher.
I live 3 minutes walk from the sea for crying out loud. Maybe Sony build this as the first airplane projector. Nope the operation instructions should state; "High; "Cricket" killer. Than me and Joe could go on with our lives knowing Crickets are part of the Sony landscape and they have a cure for it, namely High cooler Well guys did the VW100 have a High and Low Cooler setting.
post #1461 of 2112
You get to the Sony manual site. Bang. Looked it up. The VPL-vw100 has a high altitude mode when ze manual sez the fan spins with more turns.
post #1462 of 2112
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Lamps are to costly to try for the heck of it and see if it gets rid of crickets...
post #1463 of 2112
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Lamps are to costly to try for the heck of it and see if it gets rid of crickets...

See no mention on AVSF of High Cooler seting fixing anything with the VW100 Cricket problem, but it does with the VW200 "noise" problem. I guess the VW100 owners would have tried that out rather than change lamps, right! So I guess these problems are similar but not the same. Well, I still have Rattle and hum on Standard setting, maybee I should talk to U2 about that.
post #1464 of 2112
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Thunder, it doesn't start right away on Normal setting though does it? I can usually leave it on the Normal setting for about 2 hours before I need to switch to High Cool.

Of course lastnite we had 2 musicals going (Mamma Mia and Grease) and I had it on High Cool the entire time. You could not hear at all of course...
post #1465 of 2112
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Thunder, it doesn't start right away on Normal setting though does it? I can usually leave it on the Normal setting for about 2 hours before I need to switch to High Cool.

Of course lastnite we had 2 musicals going (Mamma Mia and Grease) and I had it on High Cool the entire time. You could not hear at all of course...


It starts after 5 min. in my case, so I just have High setting on all the time now!
post #1466 of 2112
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I have had mine on High for awhile now (keep forgetting to switch it back). I wonder if a new lamp would make it go back to Normal for awhile? Either way it is still not loud on High anyway so probably not worth worrying about.
post #1467 of 2112
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

I have had mine on High for awhile now (keep forgetting to switch it back). I wonder if a new lamp would make it go back to Normal for awhile? Either way it is still not loud on High anyway so probably not worth worrying about.


Whats your lamp time now?
post #1468 of 2112
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About 300. But I believe it only had about 100 hours on the current lamp. Remember, this one went to Laredo and had the power supply swapped.
post #1469 of 2112
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

About 300. But I believe it only had about 100 hours on the current lamp. Remember, this one went to Laredo and had the power supply swapped.

Hope nothing obvious happens at 210 with yours, like it did with mine. I did not notice anything untill then. Whats the story with the power supply in yours anyway?
post #1470 of 2112
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I guess it was bad and needed to be replaced. It was new when it happened so that is why I think this is the new norm for the High Lamp setings...
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