AVS HD 709 - Blu-ray & MP4 Calibration - Page 90

I am doing my best to understand that post #2651 because clearly that is what is happening. When i play the mp4 from the macbook pro through HDMI to the projector and run the basic contrast test I dont see any of the bars flashing. I guess this would be black crush?

I am also trying to find out if over HDMI it is possible for the macbook to output the correct values (not 0-255)

I installed blacklight to bring the display values up to where they should be, but even with brightness set to full (its 24 i believe) i cannot get bars 17-19 to flash on the brightness test. Not sure whats going on.

Thank you for all your help....im hoping someone with a similar setup will chime in...ill also check out the official 8350 thread.

I wouldn't expect that to be possible. I've certainly never been able to find out how to do it with Apple provided software.

Hi, Ghost here from Mirillis Team.

We came across this great calibration materials reported by a Splash PRO user
that experienced problems running AVS HD 709 AVCHD version with Splash PRO.
We have investigated the problem and found that AVS HD 709 AVCHD version is not 100% AVCHD compliant. It may result in playback problems with players that support AVCHD playback but do not support Blu-ray HDMV playback.

With latest Splash PRO 1.4.1 version we improved AVCHD format support and it is now capable of playing AVS HD 709 AVCHD version.

alluringreality: If it is possible, please kindly add Splash PRO to supported players table on first page of this thread. Thank you!

here is my mirrors hosted on Amazon CloundFront, including a torrent of everyone
http://avshd.nwgat.net/AVCHD-2d.7z [torrent]
http://avshd.nwgat.net/AVCHD-2d.exe [torrent]
http://avshd.nwgat.net/HDMV-2d.7z [torrent]
http://avshd.nwgat.net/HDMV-2d.exe [torrent]
http://avshd.nwgat.net/MP4-2c.7z [torrent]
http://avshd.nwgat.net/MP4-2c.exe [torrent]
http://avshd.nwgat.net/Patterns-Manual.pdf [torrent]

I too have the epson 8350. i wanted to calibrate using the avs hd 709 files but ran into the same issue. im still trying to figure out what can be done about it but i don't really know where to start.

The projector is amazing although, to me at least, the images look too dark. im currently using "living room" mode. will work on calibrating some more on the weekend. will update if i figure it out.

regards

Hey,

Thanks for that. for those concerned, on the remote hit menu --> signal --> advanced --> HDMI video range, select expanded.

i am indeed using a computer, after adjusting the hdmi range to "expanded" i see the bars flashing for the test. I will calibrate it sometime this week. the colors look so much better already though.

thanks for the help.

I don't have a DVD burner, but would really like to get a copy of this disc. Anyone feel nice enough to burn a copy for a fellow AVS'er? I would use it on a PS3 and would need the AVCHD version. I could paypal to reimburse for the cost of disc and shipping. PM me if you are willing. Thanks!!

I hope this is the right section (Sorry if it is not)...there seems to be a LOT of people in here that know what they are doing so I will ask my very lame question LOL!! I am wondering what reference level to choose on my Xbox 360 (standard, intermediate, expanded). The reason I ask is because I can only find older information on this (2007-2008 posts) and wonder what you guys have yours set at. My TV is as follows:

4254 Samsung plasma connected to a XBOX via HDMI. I have the color setting set to auto on the xbox.

I have noticed that with "expanded it is hard sometimes to see in dark rooms so I have it on intermediate as of now.

really appreciate and help or opinions.

Thank-You

Thanks for this great info!! I am like you...I never watch movies...just play games. The setting you are referring to I think is my HDMI settings?? I have 3 HDMI ports listed below, I used HDMI 3. I do not see a expanded setting on my TV...just my XBOX???? I am sure you know better than me and i am probably just looking in the wrong place LOL!!

HDMI (1) is "DVD
HDMI (2) is "PC"
HDMI (3) is "It says in the manual used for a device with a HDMI output such as a video game that is not used as much LOL!!"

I wish to calibrate my G20 plasma using the HDMV and Arcsoft player from my Windows PC as I do not own a BluRay player. As I understand it the PC outputs in 0-255 rather than 16-235 and on my Nvidia card even if I switch it to 16-235 in the Nvidia control panel all it does is force player to convert to 16-235 but it's still outputting in 0-255 colorspace on the HDMI output regardless?

I ran Arcsoft and HDMV and the basic test of black level looks correct in 0-255 colorspace anyhow (I see 17 upwards flashing) and if I set to 16-235 in Nvidia control panel I don't see any flashing bars at all so I assume I should just leave everything in 0-255 and calibrate from that using ColorHFCR and Arcsoft as reference? Do I also have to make sure I have not color profiles loaded in Windows color management? I want to be able to copy the calibrated HDTV profile to all sources including broadcast TV but want to make sure this will work using the PC HDMI output.

I went ahaed and did it anyhow using AVSHD, Arcsoft Total Media Theatre 5 trial and ColorHCFR. These are my readouts. I forgot to capture a screenshot of the standard primaries CIE chart but I think it was close to 4000 on the curve which is close to ideal (I forget. Best check the guide again lol)? Anyhow let me know what you think. I am unsure about the CIE I have posted.






EDIT: Reading through the guide I may have done the color readings incorrectly. Not sure. Can't quite figure out why I have those big white dots all over the graph. Also I forgot to check the Delta E values on the primaries (Should have screencapped that too).

If you can give some pointers on that it would be much appreciated. I may have to go back and redo the color primaries and secondaries?

EDIT2: Looks like I should be paying close attention to the color Delta E values and NOT the corners of the triangle! Oh well back to the drawing board.

EDIT3: How do these values look for color? I used a 2.4 gamma as 2.2 was not getting me under 10 for all values.



Hmm something don't seem right with those settings. The lack of red and green saturation is bothering me. See graph.



OK this will do me for now

Just wanted to say THANKS to the people who created this calibration software. I used it to do a basic calibration on my new OPPO BDP-93, fixed the slight black crush issue, and balanced the colours. Used AVATAR as a sample and everything looked fantastic!

Once again, Thank you,

I think it's a matter of opinion on what you are planning to gain from calibration. If you are a professional where color accuracy is essential then cheaping out on an i1/Spyder3 will give you the results you can probably expect. That is. Not 'always' accurate. For enthusiasts and those who just want something a little more in the right ranges these devices are 'good enough'.

I've been comparing my results to the THX profile on my Panasonic plasma HDTV. The red push on the THX setting is so obvious I don't know how I ever did not notice it before (But without a reference I guess you won't). If I switch back and forth between the two I can see my levels are not actually far off in terms of luminance etc. I don't see any black crush or a large jump in brightness. But what I do see is a large shift in the reds. In my calibrated results whites appear to be white without any shift towards any particular hue. Reds are red but not overly garish. One area that shows a good comparison is a shot of some green fields against a blue sky with white and grey clouds. This now looks correct. Of course visual inspection is not as good as using a measuring device but I can definitely see a major improvement (and that is what I am aiming for here for generalised viewing).

I then checked the black clipping test and found it was spot on with 16 downwards completely black and no visible flashing. 17 was barely visibly which is correct for brightness. Contrast on PC output shows a full range of whiter than white and blacker than black at 0-255 and artificially created 16-235 is correct (Nvidia does not output 16-235 through hardware but adds a shader to the player software output instead).

My readings might be out. Heck. Reading that thread, even HCFR may not be 100% accurate regardless of the measuring device used. I guess if I was really anal and had the cash to splash I'd get a spectrometer like a Colormunki or some heavy duty pro gear and signal generator etc. But in the end I think the results are 'good enough' for me.

BTW I used the iMatch software on my 2 PC displays which adjust the video card LUT rather than the monitor LUT. I read that BasicColor do software and a special cable that will work to adjust the LUT on some displays. Do you know anything about this and if it would work on a HP LP2575w? I can't find much info about it (Or pricing).

Thanks for your input.

Can the MP4 version be converted to work with a SD DVD player? Or is there a SD version of this?

I have an Insignia NS-BDLIVE01. The Blu-ray player has worked fine with any AVCHD disk I've ever used (20+), though it does not work with the AVCHD version of AVS HD. The player simply lists the folders on the disk as if it does not recognize it as a playable DVD/Blu-ray disc. Can any assistance be offered? Thanks.

I was under the impression that the HDMV version was too large to fit on a standard DVD, otherwise I would have used that copy from the get-go. I'll test it out and report back with my findings. Thanks for the help!

Edit: It works great! Can't wait to calibrate my TV tomorrow. And to think I was going to spend $20 on a calibration DVD.

alluringreality;
I have the DVE & Avia discs, but I don't like the way either is authored. Specific chapters (patterns) are very hard to find on both discs, typical of the lame DVD structure which I haven't like from day one.
I have a copy of GetGray, but haven't burned it yet. I read through the documentation of this and found it to be superior to the others which is why I wanted to see if it would work in the SD format.

Hello all.

I have been using this disc to calibrate my system with Calman.

I should really calibrate the Display with a reference generator BUT

I have a Decklink HD Extreme broadcast output card on my Mac Pro.

If I had a Photoshop document of the bitmapped files on this disc, I could output them to the screen for reference calibration.

Do these files exist anywhere?

If not, would I be right in assuming I can make them in a none colour managed Photoshop File using these numbers for IRE percent?

0% = 16
10% = 38
20% = 60
30% = 82
40% = 104
50% = 126
60% = 147
70% = 169
80% = 191
90% = 213
100% = 235

If this is useful I can repost back here?

Tristan

GetGray was my favorite DVD calibration disc. It does not have all the patterns that AVS HD 709 does, but shares the simplicity of layout and ease of navigation.

You should definitely give it a try.

-Bill