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post #1621 of 1755
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Anyone else join the 4.0 club lately?

I bought one of the last Onkyo HD DVD players. While my home theater is being planned I've been using it with a temp projector - Panasonic AE900. Playback seems pretty good although when I first used it I noticed all sorts of weird artifacts - seemed to be perhaps de-interlacing errors where I'd see a flash of what seemed to be interlaced scan lines during shot changes.

Do I need 4.0?

How do I get a hold of that firmware?

Many thanks!
post #1622 of 1755
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Originally Posted by BasicBlak View Post

Unplugging is a precaution based on Joerod's advice when he originally blazed the trail on this thing. I, for one, made sure to do the same thing when I updated my brother's unit almost immediately after Joe played guinea pig for us. Necessary or not, it certainly doesn't hurt. And since this isn't exactly an Onkyo-sanctioned procedure, no sense in 'fraidy cats like me tempting fate by not doing exactly as suggested.

Fair enough I suppose...
post #1623 of 1755
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

I bought one of the last Onkyo HD DVD players. While my home theater is being planned I've been using it with a temp projector - Panasonic AE900. Playback seems pretty good although when I first used it I noticed all sorts of weird artifacts - seemed to be perhaps de-interlacing errors where I'd see a flash of what seemed to be interlaced scan lines during shot changes.

Do I need 4.0?

How do I get a hold of that firmware?

Many thanks!

"Need"? No. But many of us are using it with no problems.
You get it from Toshiba's site for the XA2 firmware:

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/customer...p?model=hd-xa2

You have played with the Reon chip settings, no?
post #1624 of 1755
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

"Need"? No. But many of us are using it with no problems.
You get it from Toshiba's site for the XA2 firmware:

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/customer...p?model=hd-xa2

You have played with the Reon chip settings, no?

Thanks for the link.

I haven't done any playing whatsoever with the Onkyo. Just set it up and played DVDs and HD DVDs. This is mostly because I'm just in a temporary set up at the moment. Played on my Panasonic AE900 projector DVDs look generally pretty good. Although I hope they'll look better once I get my 1080p projector (JVC RS20). I know the Onkyo/XA2 is known for it's tremendous upscaling. I'm not sure how much benefit I'm supposed to see on a projector like the Panny which can only receive 720p. I've set the Onkyo to output 1080i to the projector (remembering that my original A1 HD DVD player was much better at 1080i output vs 720p. I don't know if that changed with the XA2/Onkyo models or not).

Thanks.
post #1625 of 1755
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

Thanks for the link.

I haven't done any playing whatsoever with the Onkyo. Just set it up and played DVDs and HD DVDs. This is mostly because I'm just in a temporary set up at the moment. Played on my Panasonic AE900 projector DVDs look generally pretty good. Although I hope they'll look better once I get my 1080p projector (JVC RS20). I know the Onkyo/XA2 is known for it's tremendous upscaling. I'm not sure how much benefit I'm supposed to see on a projector like the Panny which can only receive 720p. I've set the Onkyo to output 1080i to the projector (remembering that my original A1 HD DVD player was much better at 1080i output vs 720p. I don't know if that changed with the XA2/Onkyo models or not).

Thanks.

The defaults for the Reon are all off. Pretty stupid, actually, but that's what you get. It won't affect HD much, but does noticeably improve SD. So play with some of the settings when you get a chance.
post #1626 of 1755
Great. Any particular settings you'd suggest?
post #1627 of 1755
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

Great. Any particular settings you'd suggest?

Try these

Selective Color Enhancement- OFF
Edge Enhancement - OFF
Mosquito Noise Reduction - ON
Block Noise Reduction - ON
Random Noise Reduction - ON

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...09#post9388309
post #1628 of 1755
Thank you! I'll try those.

Rich
post #1629 of 1755
Thanks everybody for the kind words. We watched Riddick the other night and the pic Q is still astounding. For a "dead" format it still get a lot of play time here.
post #1630 of 1755
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Thanks everybody for the kind words. We watched Riddick the other night and the pic Q is still astounding. For a "dead" format it still get a lot of play time here.

Rather than bailing on the dead format, I picked up more players and discs so I am going to be using it for the rest of my life, at least a few times a year. I am glad the format has gone bye bye but a player like this at such a low price and movies at firesale prices were something I couldn't pass up.

Chris
post #1631 of 1755
Same here. I plan to use my HD DVD players for some time... No reason to double dip or repurchase...
post #1632 of 1755
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

Thanks for the link.

I haven't done any playing whatsoever with the Onkyo. Just set it up and played DVDs and HD DVDs. This is mostly because I'm just in a temporary set up at the moment. Played on my Panasonic AE900 projector DVDs look generally pretty good. Although I hope they'll look better once I get my 1080p projector (JVC RS20). I know the Onkyo/XA2 is known for it's tremendous upscaling. I'm not sure how much benefit I'm supposed to see on a projector like the Panny which can only receive 720p. I've set the Onkyo to output 1080i to the projector (remembering that my original A1 HD DVD player was much better at 1080i output vs 720p. I don't know if that changed with the XA2/Onkyo models or not).

Thanks.

I am using the Panasonic PT-AE900U but don't have my DV-HD805 connected to it at the moment. I also own the HD-A1 and firmware improvements made using 720p acceptable although not better than 1080i with the projector. I don't have it connected to the projector either, the HD-A1 is connected to a 1080i CRT. The PT-AE900U accepts a 1080/24p source and it works well, at least with the sources I have tried. When I did briefly have the DV-HD805 connected to my PT-AE900U, I used 720p and noticed none of the issues you have noted.

Chris
post #1633 of 1755
Why has Onkyo,unlike Toshiba,ceased to issue official firmware updates for this Player?
While the Onkyo's PQ may be comparable,compared to Toshiba's XE1 it's build quality is not,since the case work appears to be a modification of that of Toshiba's EP10.
Disappointing for what Onkyo was charging for it here in the UK!
post #1634 of 1755
SATM,

The XA2 and the 805 are EXACTLY the same player aside from the external appearance and a "picture" button on the remote.

Onkyo has not issued an immediate firmware revision because they are very slow and lazy to do so, just like with all of their other products. They are not anxious to spend more money on the HD-DVD format either. Toshiba on the other hand, has a reputation to protect, and is still continuing the fw revisions thus far. If you want the latest firmware, just load the new Toshiba 4.0 fw onto your 805 like many others have done and are very happy with it.
post #1635 of 1755
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Originally Posted by SATM View Post

Why has Onkyo,unlike Toshiba,ceased to issue official firmware updates for this Player?
While the Onkyo's PQ may be comparable,compared to Toshiba's XE1 it's build quality is not,since the case work appears to be a modification of that of Toshiba's EP10.
Disappointing for what Onkyo was charging for it here in the UK!

I don't have an answer as to why Onkyo hasn't gotten firmware updates out for this player, it isn't good business. As far as the price charged, Onkyo lost a lot of money on this stupid idea to sell a high-end HD DVD player at a high price. The only sales of significance were after the player was reduced to below cost. Still, that isn't an excuse for poor customer service, the player is in need of a firmware update and using the Toshiba update isn't as attractive.

Chris
post #1636 of 1755
Our best bet is to jut use the XA2's update with our units. I am not saying it is right but it works. Onkyo bailed out on HD DVD even before Toshiba decided to. I think the HD805 may have been one of the shortest lived units I have ever seen. It was pretty much stopped as it was released...
post #1637 of 1755
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Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast View Post

"Need"? No. But many of us are using it with no problems.
You get it from Toshiba's site for the XA2 firmware:

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/customer...p?model=hd-xa2

For those of you who have loaded the XA2 4.0 FW, the improvements are with 1080p/24 output, right?

My display only accepts 1080i, I've not had any problem with any disc, and I'm just a firm believer in "if ain't broke, don't try to fix it".
post #1638 of 1755
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Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard View Post

As far as the price charged, Onkyo lost a lot of money on this stupid idea to sell a high-end HD DVD player at a high price. Chris

Onkyo is repeating the mistake with their $599 (MSRP) Profile 1.1 Blu-ray player.
post #1639 of 1755
Even I won't touch that one!
post #1640 of 1755
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Originally Posted by laugsbach View Post

Onkyo is repeating the mistake with their $599 (MSRP) Profile 1.1 Blu-ray player.

Indeed.

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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Even I won't touch that one!

Agreed.
post #1641 of 1755
Thanks for the responses.
My post was triggered by my recent purchase,from an UK Dealer,of a USA Onkyo 805,predominantly as a back-up for my XE1,but also to play Region 1 SD DVDs,and was surprised at not only it's predominately EP10 casework,but also supply of the latter's cheap looking remote control-why no XE1's metal,backlit remote?
Still the PQ is first class!
post #1642 of 1755
I would imagine that the remote is something that Toshiba wanted to keep exclusive for the XA2. The remote for the 805 is the same model as for the lower tier Toshiba players like the A2, A3, and A35 models.
post #1643 of 1755
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Originally Posted by laugsbach View Post

Onkyo is repeating the mistake with their $599 (MSRP) Profile 1.1 Blu-ray player.

Ha, that player is DOA.

Chris
post #1644 of 1755
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Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard View Post

Ha, that player is DOA.

Chris

I guess they'll be on clearance @ shoponkyo next year then... .
post #1645 of 1755
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

Great. Any particular settings you'd suggest?

Only setting I have on are Edge Enhancement and Mosquito NR.

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Originally Posted by laugsbach View Post

Onkyo is repeating the mistake with their $599 (MSRP) Profile 1.1 Blu-ray player.

So who's making this player for them?
post #1646 of 1755
So if I have FW 2.6, what are the advantages of upgrading? BTW I have a 24FPS display and Denon 3808Ci.
post #1647 of 1755
Just wanted to add to the testimony that the Toshiba 4.0 firmware upgrade works on the DV-HD805. I downloaded the file from the Toshiba web site and burned my own CD. I did not unplug the unit after the upgrade and it is fine. Many thanks to those pioneers, especially joerod, who risked their machines to show us the way.
post #1648 of 1755
Thanks and welcome to the club.
post #1649 of 1755
Okey-Dokey.... I just got finished with the update process. After the player was powered back up, I performed an initialization, reset all of my settings (BM stuff), powered back down, and unplugged the unit. The version in the update screen does indeed show 4.0, and the only difference from Toshiba's update instructions was the fact that the ON/STANDBY light did not flash between red and blue (it stayed blue the whole time during STEP 5/5). The true test will be tonight with Transformers... wish me luck...
post #1650 of 1755
Good luck Vader, and God speed!
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