Originally Posted by laugsbach
Late to the party as usual for me and the Toshiba 4.0 update.
I just recently purchased a Panny AE3000 PJ and have entered the world of 24fps. I set the HD805 to "up to 1080p/24hz" and forgot about it. Well, last night I tried to play the HD-DVD version of the Eagles Farewell Tour I and it was unwatchable.
Also, the Extended Version of LOTR Two Towers Chapter 1 had horrendous lip sync until chapter 2 started.
A quick hit of the menu button for the PJ showed a 1080/24p signal
If I change the HD805 to "up to 1080p", I am good to go with the PJ showing a "1080/60p" signal. So, I decided to upgrade to the Toshiba XA2 FW 4.0 and all is right with the world.
Another big thanks to joerod for blazing the trail (as well as all of your help with the Onkyo 805 upgrades
Here are my settings:
Picture Mode: AUTO
Resolution Setting: up to 1080p/24hz
Frame Rate: AUTO
Are these correct?
The Eagles & LOTR are back to normal with the above settings....
Actually, f/w 4.0 addressed 24fps AVC/MPEG-4 issues and various other player stability issues. The "problem" you were experiencing wasn't exactly a problem per se. If you set Frame Rate to AUTO, everything gets reverted to 1080/60p regardless of whether or not the source is 1080/24p and irrespective of the 1080p/24Hz Resolution Setting. Had the format survived, future 24fps discs would have contained coding that would have prompted the player to display it natively (as opposed to Blu-ray, which has player
-based 24Hz detection). That's the first thing....
Second, the reason Eagles Farewell looked so horrid in 1080/24p is because it is a 1080i disc (most video-based concert discs are). The Tosh players do not have the capability to automatically switch to 1080/60p when it's in 1080/24p mode. As for standard DVD movies, sometimes 1080/24p works, sometimes it doesn't. It completely depends on how and when the disc was mastered. Some DVDs play very well in 24p mode but have trouble navigating the menus. (Top Gun Remastered and El Cantante are just two of many examples.) LOTR may have been mastered at 30- or 60fps as opposed to 24fps, which is probably why you were having horrible lip sync issues. Can't say for sure there. But I do know that "Guys & Dolls: Deluxe Edition" DVD, for example, was mastered using video frame rate, as it's all but unwatchable at 24fps.
If you want to utilize 1080/24p for your film-based HD DVDs, then you'll need to set your Resolution to 1080p/24Hz and also set Frame Rate to 1080p/24Hz; for non-24Hz material, you'll have to manually
change Resolution to 1080p/60Hz. If, however, you have (or play) more SD DVDs than HD DVDs, you could do just leave the settings you listed above as is, manually setting Frame Rate to 1080p/24Hz when you get ready to play film-based HD DVDs.
Hope that clears it up for you. And don't worry...better that you came to the party late than never at all.