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post #691 of 1119
Thread Starter 
@ lifeisfun,

The ones that came with HP's load disk for the PC. Haven't updated them, and I'm not sure what version is on the disk.

BW
post #692 of 1119
Thanks
are you running Vista or XP MCE ?
You don't experience front panel LCD freezing ?
post #693 of 1119
Thread Starter 
Still running XP MCE 2005. The panel has only frozen once that I recall. Sometimes the characters get a little wonky switching functions, but that clears itself within a minute or two.
post #694 of 1119
That must be it.... on Vista it's not stable at all.
Did they produce Z model with vista pre-installed ?
post #695 of 1119
Thread Starter 
@ lifeisfun,

To my knowledge, they only produced the Z-Machines with XP MCE installed.

BW
post #696 of 1119
I just spent some time digging all around HP web site
and the 565 was pre-installed with Vista
The keyboard driver update works but Media display won't
I suspect that it can't install because the 565 display also reported
system temperature and other info that's not available on the 545.

I will test Windows 7 installation tomorrow
post #697 of 1119
Thread Starter 
@ lifeisfun,

Wow, thanks! Didn't know they'd done that, good to know.

How'd your test run go?

BW
post #698 of 1119
Hi Guys,

This is my first time to AVS-forum and I have read very informative hints. Although I cannot find any topic specific to my problem. Would one of you have had any booting issues with a Z560?

Recently, when I power my Z560 (font blue button), I hear the power-supply fan that kicks in, I read "HP DEC" on the front panel, but nothing else. The HP blue screen no longer appears and no bios options, and obviously no Windows

I installed Vista premium for more than a year by now, and I have also recently upgraded the graphic engine with a MSI-8500GT. Everything worked well for wuite a while. Few days before this issue, I have noticed "tservice.exe has an encountered an error and needs to close" while running the PC. But it was still running well after closing the error window.

As part of my troubleshooting, I have ordered a new IR HP-keyboard thinking that my Z560 needs to talk to it in the booting process. No luck, it still hangs in the booting process.

Anyone knows what going on with my Z560?
Your help would be appreciated,

Marcolorado
post #699 of 1119
Why don't you try to swap in the old video card ?
Perhaps the new card is "done"



BW,
everything works like a Swiss watch in W7 but my crappy nVidia 7300LE is having hard time to resume from Stand by (Black screen )
My new ATI HD should be here any day I hope that will solve my problem.
The new - improved MCE interface is great !
post #700 of 1119
Thanks lifeisfun for your advice... But unfortunately after going back with the original graphic cardd nothing has changed. Still cannot access to the HP startup screen nor the BIOS screen. Would you have any idea what's going on? I know the power-supply is good, and I temporary swapped the hard drive but again, there is something avoiding the BIOS to kick in.
post #701 of 1119
That doesn't sound good
post #702 of 1119
Does the MB have a battery? Remove it, and letting the PC sit overnight. Reinstall the battery, and then try to boot the machine. That might clear any bios hang up. YMMV.

Hope this helps,

David
post #703 of 1119
@ tgr131

I like the idea ! I'll give it a shot tonight and let you guys know. Thanks for your prompt reply. (c:
post #704 of 1119
@marcolorado

I would also try removing all of your memory modules and try booting with just one, then the other (or one you know for sure is good). While you're in there, look for any bulged capacitors. Any capacitors with even a barely noticeable bulge on top could cause problems, that's what took me down.
If none of that works, try a minimal configuration - 1 memory stick, processor, and video card only. You shouldn't even need the hard drive to get into the BIOS.
post #705 of 1119
@tgr131 & CornerSage

Well guess what... Removing the power and the battery overnight didn't do any better for me this morning. Still can't access the BIOS *#$%^#$%$#!^&!^&

I will try your options Cornersage, by eliminating the RAM sticks systematically as well as the hard-drive.

Thanks to both of you once again for your valuable hints.
Greatly appreciated,
post #706 of 1119
Thread Starter 
@ marcolorado,

Not even the video card's initial screen (black with 2-3 lines of text)? If it's not even POST'ing to a BIOS screen, or the video card's BIOS, then either the BIOS is fried, or perhaps the northbridge, or maybe even the CPU. Do you perhaps have another socket 478 CPU to try in it?

BW
post #707 of 1119
@ CornerSage & BigWorm2005GT

I remove all RAM sticks and rebooted with one original RAM. Nothing better!

I don't have a free CPU for a deeper troubleshoot. I am out of ideas....

I have realized the front "HP DEC" display passing from bright to dimmed a couple of time without giving me the famous BIOS screen.

FYI - I have tried my Windows remote and can see the red LED that confirms the signal on the PC, although when I trigger the keyboard nothing happen (no LED signal on PC). Does anybody knows if the PC needs a confirmation from the keyboard to kick the BIOS? What happen if your PC boot without batteries in the keyboard? Would the computer boot?

Thanks for your help...
Marcolorado
post #708 of 1119
Thread Starter 
@ marcolorado,

I actually tried that. It booted, and my Harmony drove it just fine. That isn't it (I don't think).

Not sure what else to tell you. You've troubleshot everything I can think of. That one might be ready for retirement (in the Blade Runner sense...).

BW
post #709 of 1119
BW,
I got the ATI card today and the problem persist so for now I'm going back to Vista
More people report the same stand by problem with W7.

I also got Blue screen of death with the new card ( and the PC rebooted
so fast that I couldn't read the cause of the problem)
This happened only once so I hope it won't be persistent problem.
Did it ever happened t you ?

Thanks
post #710 of 1119
@ BigWorm2005GT

I slept on it for a while thinking any other ways to troubleshoot the Z machine. I will give a shot with the HP repair service center to see what they have in mind. I will keep you guys updated. Worse come worse, I will have a bunch a spare part for sale on EBAY (LOL).

Thanks again,
Marcolorado
post #711 of 1119
marcolorado,

Is your your power supply is dying?? My front VFT panel was very dim and flickered for a few weeks before my Z555 finally died with black screen and no boot.

Replaced the power supply and all is good, even the front panel is back to its original brightness.

Daughter card for my z555 needs proprietary power from PSU (which yours is getting)
post #712 of 1119
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm2005GT View Post

@ Mannyf312,

For the EAH4550, it's supposed to have its own audio processor that can encode the high definition audio tracks itself, and send them out the HDMI. I have not tried this, since I cannot get the drivers to install. I think there is some conflict with drivers for the motherboard devices, and I have not been able to clear them yet. Once I get it to install, I will carry it down to the local BB and connect it there for testing before I shell out $400 for an amp I may or may not get the benefit of.

Stay tuned...

BW

First, I just wanted to say thank you to Bigworm and others who have made this a great thread. I has been very helpful.

Based on recomendations I went with the ASUS 4550 and really like the picture quality. I have been trying to get the HDMI audio woorking with no luck. I think I am having the same problem as BigWorm above. I think I know what the problem is, but have no idea how to fix it. I should say that I am running Windows 7 beta.

When I try and install the RealTek HDMI audio driver (after the video card driver and Realtek drivers and several reboots....) I get a message that says "No Driver that supports the driver package was found" or something very similar. The installation just stops.

I went to Device Manager and found what I think is the cause. I see a yellow sign on the "High Definition Audio Controller" properties of PCI Bus 1, device 0, function 1. I assume this is the ATI's audio controller? Not sure what resources I could free up or disable to make this work. Here is a screen shot:

Below this entry is another High Defintion Audio Controller that appeares to be working normally. I assume this is the onboard audio - here is a screen shot:

I have tried disableing the onboard audio and rebooted serveral times. I have tried the auto and enabled options with no luck. Does anyone have any ideas? I am not sure how to free up enough resources to make this work. If anyone has any ideas please let me know. It is important to me to get this working to get audio to my TV. I am not interested in 5.1 just 2 channel over HDMI.

Also - It seems that based on may posts about temperature, that my box is running very warm. Anywhere between 55-57C under normal conditions - no heavy load like transcoding or the like. I have re applied the Arctric Silver to make sure I have a secure fit, but I get similar results. The side fan is pulling in and the top fan is blow out as many have recommended. Mine was like this when I got it. Anyone think this is too warm? Speedfan Shot:


Thanks again for everyones hard work. Let me know if you have any ideas on these problems. Thanks
post #713 of 1119
Thread Starter 
@ emerlin,

I have exactly the same audio issue. Same error, same duplicate HD audio device, same pounding my head against the wall. One is the device for the on board audio, the other is for the one on the EAH4550. I have:

1. Disabled and re-enabled everything that can be in the BIOS.
2. Physically removed both tuner cards and the SATA card I put in for the LG drive.
3. Tried waving worry beads, chicken feathers, and a crucifix over it.

I have tried this with XP MCE, and with Windows 7 Beta that I'm trying out (detailed review on this to follow).

Nothing works. We now have two data points, though. I'm about to think that this motherboard just isn't capable of supporting that audio controller, which means we may have reached the limit of what the mobo is capable of.

Has anyone with a z560-series machine tried the EAH4550? With a different mobo, you may have different results.

BW
post #714 of 1119
Thanks BW - well maybe something will turn up. Perhaps someone will weight in with a solution.

Any ideas on CPU temp? Is yours run that hot?

Cheers
post #715 of 1119
For anyone interested in my Z565 motherboard swap into a Z555 chassis, here's an update:
My first problem was getting a CPU cooler that would fit. The Z565 has a tall capacitor in the way of the original fan, so I had to find a replacement. I went with the ZEROtherm CF800 CPU cooler because it looked like a good fit and it works perfectly. It mounted up to the stock bracket on the bottom of the motherboard, so I didn't even have to pull the board. It's much quieter than the stock fan (I can barely hear it now), and seems to keep things much cooler, but I haven't taken any measurements. It blows in, so I had to reverse the side fan since my CPU fan originally blew out. One note, it has a blue LED that shines through the vent in the top of the case.
Everything else fit great, as it should. My next hurdle was the software. Since the recovery disks I have were built specifically for my Z555, I could not load them on this system. I tried kicking things off with a different windows XP install disk and swapping out the disks once things got started, but couldn't make that work. I finally installed the Windows 7 beta and that's working well for now. I haven't played with that a lot yet, but so far so good.
post #716 of 1119
I should have mentioned, I could not get the wireless card to work in Windows 7. I decided to run wires anyway, so I'll just pull it from my system, but anyone dependent on the wireless card beware. Maybe someone else has had luck finding a driver to make it work.
post #717 of 1119
Is this the message you guys get during the installation of the Realtek ATI HDMI driver?


The picture from this post. His mb is MSI RS480M2 Radeon Xpress 200 chipset Socket 939 mb. He also tried to install driver manually (this post and subsequent few posts) with no luck. If so, it looks like this is common to a couple of older mbs. I don't know a fix. Maybe changing mb is the only fix?

BTW the HDMI audio driver built in Windows works for only stereo LPCM.
post #718 of 1119
Renethx,

Thanks for looking into this thread. Yes, this is indeed the same problem we are having. Well I will check through his thread and see if there is anything there that may help. Ugh... I was really hoping this would work - I just need 2 channel audio for my setup.

Anyway - Thanks again.
E
post #719 of 1119
Thread Starter 
@ renethx and emerlin,

Unfortunately, that didn't help. The HD Audio Device Controller still shows the Code 12 error, even with the Realtek drivers. The ATI HDMI Audio Device that's supposed to be there, isn't. I'm guessing that this is because the HD Audio Device Controller is its dependency device, and until that can start properly, the ATI device won't show up.

So, I'm stuck. Like eMerlin, I've tried everything I can think of to get that device to not have a resource conflict, but because the Microsoft driver troubleshooting is, shall we say, a bit slipshod, I can't even really tell what it's in conflict with.

TrueHD and DTS-HD are not required, but they would be exceptionally helpful. I'm just beginning to think we've reached the limit of this mobo's capability. Anyone at all have any flashes of wisdom?

BW
post #720 of 1119
Anyone with EAH4550 getting blue screen and reboot once in the while ?
It happens to me for no apparent reason while playing AVI movie.
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