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post #2341 of 2443
Look for DTT901
post #2342 of 2443
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Originally Posted by Trampus View Post

I hate to get this thread back on topic but I'm going to anyway.

It looks like the Zenith box in no longer being offered so has anyone heard about a replacement for it or should I just try and find another box?

Which Zenith box?
First thing, the MODS or the thread creator should edit /amend the thread title to reflect the DTT900's replacement is the DTT901.
(DTT901 fixed?/addressed audio problems.)


On the Zenith DTT901's , etc being in short supply, or being N/A.

Here's the deal:

The original DTV transition cut-off date was supposed to be Feb 17, 2009, and it being changed is causing some shortages. While some may argue differently I'm of the mindset that most retailers based their orders on THAT date, the projected date the coupons themselves were projected to run out. (Projections showing coupons would run out in Jan-2009 +/-, with the last of the coupons "expiring" 90-days past that.). The last part of the puzzle retailers trying NOT to "overstock", weighing past sales rates- against coupons that were still "valid", etc.

In a nutshell you have retailers looking at it like hey, I don't want to be stuck with "dead" inventory, the tide has come and gone... You for sure don't want to be a retailer stocking items that come in boxes that have "This item qualifies for a $40 off coupon on them if the cut-off date has come and gone, projected sales are in a downward spiral, all the coupons are gone, and the customer standing before you does not have a coupon. :-(

To put it another way- (Once the coupons are gone- I bet you sales drop big-time... Especially if the buyer is aware of how "limited" these (SD) CECB's are....

Once the CECB's go to full "retail pricing", the cost of a new TV that already has a ATSC tuner built-in becomes more cost effective, people looking at it like- Heck this TV is so old and it could die anyday, and more than likely a new tv will use less electricity, it will be HD /widescreen so why waste $60-$70 on a "tuner"...


To add insult to injury- (low stock) there has been a surge of "last minute" shoppers... In my area for example 2-3 of the primary analogue NTSC channels broadcasting info about DTV 24 /7 now... and the regular programing has gone away on those channels...



On the Zenith DTT901, K-Mart carries it.

NOTE: UPC code and Kmart item # is the SAME. When calling ask them to verify UPC, search via UPC to confirm stock in their computer.

Zenith DTT901
UPC 7-1919217340-8

PRICE $49.99- minus coupon, Tax being applied on "pre-coupon" amount.

Translation: ($9.99 plus tax in most areas after $40 coupon is applied)



PS: RADIOSHACK last time I checked was stocking the DTT901, (abit at a higher price that K-Mart) That said some stores may NOT be stocking them due to store / corporate management not wanting to be stuck with "dead" inventory.
(Sales I imagine were projected to fall off after the "original" Feb 17-2009 DTV transition / cut-off date..... Since the date has be "moved" it has really caught retailers with their pants down so to speak... In some cases...)


So far as finding units, about the only thing you can do is call around with the UPC code in-hand:

UPC 7-1919217340-8


FIND A RETAILER HERE, TYPE IN ZIP:

https://www.dtv2009.gov/VendorSearch.aspx

Oh, one last thing... when calling ASK them:

1: If the item is still showing as a "stocking item". (Keep in mind the clerk may NOT know. As a example I called my local store last night- and the lady said they had NO Zenith, Nor DTVPal Plus units. Called another store with UPC and I asked the girl to search other stores via their computer to see what was showing in the system. She said my local store was showing a couple of units in stock so this morning I went over and picked up a couple of units at the store that the lady just the night before had said they had ZERO UNITS at..)

2: Ask them when they are re-stocked.... K-Marts in my area getting about a case per week, stock running on Monday- Wednesday, OR Tuesday- Thursday.

3: Ask the clerk to hold one back for you.


Hope the above helps...


Oh, one last thing- if you can't find the Zenith DTT901, try BestBuy- the SAME unit is sold under the Insignia brand as the Insignia NS-DXA1

Both are manufactured by LG Electronics.

FYI: Zenith DTT901 / Insignia NS-DXA1 are EXACTLY the same except the price at BestBuy is $10 MORE than K-Mart... (BestBuy I think wants $59...)


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post #2343 of 2443
The DTT901's not passing 5.1 audio never mattered to me since I didn't have them hooked through an audio receiver. But now one of them is, so do any converter boxes receive 5.1 audio and have comparable tuner sensitivity to the Zenith?
post #2344 of 2443
Quote:


First thing, the MODS or the thread creator should edit /amend the thread title to reflect the DTT900's replacement is the DTT901.
(DTT901 fixed?/addressed audio problems.)

there are a few threads, biggest is

Zenith DTT901

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1032622

last posted to on the 4th
post #2345 of 2443
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Originally Posted by johnpost View Post

there are a few threads, biggest is

Zenith DTT901

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1032622

last posted to on the 4th


What I was trying to convey is it would be nice if there was a way to amend threads when a product is obsoleted.

It would be "nice" on threads if a short note was put in saying something to the effect- when models are phased out:

NOTE: The Zenith DTT900 was released February/March 2008 and was replaced April /May-2008 by a new model, the DTT901 due to audio issues. Please click here for info on the new model:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1032622


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post #2346 of 2443
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Originally Posted by CEB II View Post

Doesn't matter what you think, zaphod7501 already knows it all.

CEB II,

Q: How many years did you do component level service?
Zaphod7501 said he has 37 years in the field doing such.

You talk about consumer reports /owning certain sets for many years- You being happy with them... (EG a consumer) Zaphod7501 on the other hand has 37 years in the field doing component level repairs.

Component level service for those that don't know is repairing items by repairing /replacing individual components on a board /assembly.... instead of swapping out the WHOLE board /assembly.

They will for example R&R a 30-cent component on a board that has gone bad... replacing that part ONLY - Instead of swapping out the board at a cost of several hundred (or thousand) dollars.

To put it another way- Most so-called "techs" these days may know what has gone bad in a general sense- but cannot affect repairs to that item. Their only recourse is to replace the WHOLE board which is going to cost the consumer many hundreds or thousands of dollars- instead of replacing a 30-cent part which has gone bad.


PS: I was the top producer at a shop for many, many years that got stuff from other shops /factory authorized dealerships within a 5-state surrounding area (and beyond) that they couldn't fix. (Lucky me.) I had to figure out what was wrong, and effect repairs (on a component type level) -Instead of just throwing whole sub-assemblies $$$$ at the problem...


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post #2347 of 2443
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Originally Posted by WeAreNotAlone69 View Post

You talk about consumer reports /owning certain sets for many years- You being happy with them... (EG a consumer) Zaphod7501 on the other hand has 37 years in the field doing component level repairs.

PS: I was the top producer at a shop for many, many years that got stuff from other shops /factory authorized dealerships within a 5-state surrounding area (and beyond) that they couldn't fix. (Lucky me.) I had to figure out what was wrong, and effect repairs (on a component type level) -Instead of just throwing whole sub-assemblies $$$$ at the problem...


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Here we go again. I was going to let this whole thing die, but you've prompted me to attempt to summarize my problem with Zaphod7501's posts from the beginning in this thread. Having the skill and expertise to be able to remove and re-solder ICs, resistors, capacitors, etc. to a circuit board is wonderful. But, it hardly qualifies one to denigrate all the CE companies of a given nation or make pronouncements on the statistically verifiable product quality and reliability of the products of given CE manufacturers. It also doesn't provide any insight into to engineering design or quality assurance (which includes feedback) of any of those CE manufacturers. I don't profess to have that knowledge either, but I am willing to accept the information available from those sources that have endeavored to survey or test or do industry research at a professional level.

Regarding component repairs versus component/board replacement, I don't care, I want the method that is least costly to me and ensures the highest probability of success. Obviously manufacturers have found it more cost effective to replace components and boards that are manufactured by cheap, third world, labor for pennies (or at least for only a few dollars) and incur only the limited labor charge for the short time it takes to do the replacement, instead of paying high wage rates for hours of testing and hand repair. It's just the way it is; better economics. You may have noticed that auto repair moved to the same business model; at least dealership warranty repair.

So now let's end this old-timers peeing contest and get back on topic.
post #2348 of 2443
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Originally Posted by CEB II View Post

Here we go again. I was going to let this whole thing die, but you've prompted me to attempt to summarize my problem with Zaphod7501's posts from the beginning in this thread. Having the skill and expertise to be able to remove and re-solder ICs, resistors, capacitors, etc. to a circuit board is wonderful. But, it hardly qualifies one to denigrate all the CE companies of a given nation or make pronouncements on the statistically verifiable product quality and reliability of the products of given CE manufacturers. It also doesn't provide any insight into to engineering design or quality assurance (which includes feedback) of any of those CE manufacturers. I don't profess to have that knowledge either, but I am willing to accept the information available from those sources that have endeavored to survey or test or do industry research at a professional level.

Regarding component repairs versus component/board replacement, I don't care, I want the method that is least costly to me and ensures the highest probability of success. Obviously manufacturers have found it more cost effective to replace components and boards that are manufactured by cheap, third world, labor for pennies (or at least for only a few dollars) and incur only the limited labor charge for the short time it takes to do the replacement, instead of paying high wage rates for hours of testing and hand repair. It's just the way it is; better economics. You may have noticed that auto repair moved to the same business model; at least dealership warranty repair.

So now let's end this old-timers peeing contest and get back on topic.

Re: CEB II as a consumer, Zaphod7501 as a component level tech with 37 years experience.


CEB II,

I agree with you to some extent, but you are coming from a position in which you are a consumer, instead of someone who has been in the field for many years on the front line.

Most techs these days are not "techs", they are parts replacers. Most don't know what the heck they are doing. They are dependent on a factory hot line on anything that is "weird".... and are clueless on sets that have any age on them at all.
(Not that it matters as the chances parts are N/A increases greatly if set is out of warranty. See below

On swapping out a board, vs doing component level repair. Both have there pro's and con's. Yes it is more cost effective to repair /test components in a shop in which that is all you do. Then again I'd rather have a person that does know component level repair working on my set...


PS: I purchased a Toshiba HDTV several years ago- it was DOA / was last years model when I bought it...

Was under warranty- So off to the shop it went.

Guess how long it took to get a digital convergence board and this was ONLY by calling the Executive offices of Toshiba multiple times?

All told took about 6 months to "get" the board,.... Sad thing is the factory tech hotline, the local tech did not do the proper testing before they installed that board, nor followed procedure...

Net effect? Repair was sub-standard- Set failed two days later.

Total time I was without a "working-set"?

Finally got the set swapped out... and a working set in my possession-

Total time right at 8-9 months....

On the auto dealerships- there are very few mechanics at the dealer, or should I say "stealer".

Better call your banker to see if you can get a loan before arranging service as they have the cost no object parts swap mentally.
(EG: Throw enough parts at the problem- and something is bound to fix it.)


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post #2349 of 2443
I am gratified that there are others that look at something other than "Price, Performance, and Features" but we need to move away from antagonizing each other. We just look at things from different perspectives. Unfortunately for some of us, the Manufacturers prefer CECB II's view over mine, so we get products with a 5 year design life and poor quality control along with unrepairable circuitry. (I just singled out the ones that were the worst in my experience)

Replacing boards is only cheaper because they never have to stock any repair parts and anything over 2 years old is therefore unrepairable. They went that route because the Dealers insisted upon it and customers wanted in-home repair. (Dealers have no technicians and component level repair is not possible on the living room floor) That's why extended warranties skyrocketed in cost. A broken three year old LCD is a "Picture Frame" (used to be called "A Doorstop") and must be replaced by the warranty company.

As to repair costs; replacing a high voltage transformer is a $200 job (about as major as it gets), replacing the whole board (for any failure) is $400 - $600.

As a Factory Trained and Authorized servicer I had a lot of info on design and quality control. Did you know that the solder problems on early TVs built in the USA by foreign companies was caused by the refusal of American workers to wear gloves when assembling circuit boards? (since most were women it was declared sexist): and that the high voltage transformer failures were caused by a Texas based vendor that met spec but not quality control?

On a lighter note, the "K" in Sony model numbers stands for "Color". A high ranking Japanese employee mistranslated the word and no one would contradict him.
post #2350 of 2443
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Originally Posted by WeAreNotAlone69 View Post

[b]NOTE: The Zenith DTT900 was released February/March 2008 and was replaced April /May-2008 by a new model, the DTT901 due to audio issues.

Actually, the DTT901 was released in June/July 2008. Late-build DTT900s (April 2008 and later) incorporate the audio fix.

The DTT901 incorporates analog pass-through which the DTT900 lacks. Both of these LG-designed Zenith CECBs work reasonably well for their intended purpose of enabling OTA digital TV viewing on typical mass-market legacy NTSC TV sets.

While modifying the thread title to include the phrase "discontinued product" would be appropriate, this "old" thread should be retained for reference by folks who acquire the DTT900 either as a closeout, used item, or as a gift.
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Originally Posted by seatacboy View Post

Actually, the DTT901 was released in June/July 2008. Late-build DTT900s (April 2008 and later) incorporate the audio fix.

No, actually the DTT901 was released in April 2008. I have one.

Zenith started using a different tuner for the 900 in mid-April. If you have a 900 April build, it's easy to tell which tuner you have by looking through the top vents with a flashlight. The earlier Sanyo has a green sticker, the later tuner has a white sticker. I do not recall anybody saying they got a 900 with a build later than April, but by then everyone I know was focused on the 901s.
post #2352 of 2443
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Originally Posted by TalkingRat View Post

No, actually the DTT901 was released in April 2008. I have one.

Zenith started using a different tuner for the 900 in mid-April. If you have a 900 April build, it's easy to tell which tuner you have by looking through the top vents with a flashlight. The earlier Sanyo has a green sticker, the later tuner has a white sticker. I do not recall anybody saying they got a 900 with a build later than April, but by then everyone I know was focused on the 901s.

I have a 900 and 901, both of which were produced in April 2008. The 900 has a serial number in the 287xxx range; the 901 has a serial number in the 446xxx range. Somewhere between those number ranges the production line switched from 900 production to 901 production. Earlier in this or the 901 thread there is a post where the switchover is narrowed down more precisely.

The 900 of April 2008 production largely corrected the audio sibilance, but not the disparity between the mono and stereo gain. That modification was implemented with the beginning of 901 production in April 2008.

The 900 models were submitted for FCC certification with both Sanyo and LG tuners. Sanyo tuners were phased out, probably during February or March 2008 production. If memory serves me I believe that there were no reports of Sanyo tuners found in 900 production of April 2008. The 901 model was submitted for FCC certification with an LG tuner. There are no 901 models with a Sanyo tuner.
post #2353 of 2443
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

Sanyo tuners were phased out, probably during February or March 2008 production. If memory serves me I believe that there were no reports of Sanyo tuners found in 900 production of April 2008.

Our memories disagree about the timing for the switch to LG tuners inside the Zenith 900. I remember people having trouble with April manufacture, buying an April build thinking April was safe, and then finding they got Sanyo tuners, which is why everyone started looking inside by flashlight for the April builds. At this time, nobody was sure what S/N was safe.

So I looked back in this thread, and here's the proof that both tuners existed in the April build. [I'm talking about the 900, not the 901. If you thought I was saying the 901 ever had a Sanyo, I didn't. The 901 went through FCC approval with only one tuner, the LG H151F, not to be confused with the 900's LG H051F. ]

Ref. post 1530, by pioneerdat:

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I just exchanged two of the April builds in the 84E01084 series-noticed that one of the had the Sanyo UBA00AL tuner while the other had the LG H051F. There was a mixture of the two tuners in the remaining April inventory at cc (about 20 boxes), all April builds in the "1084" series. All the April "1082s" had the Sanyo tuners.
post #2354 of 2443
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Originally Posted by TalkingRat View Post

Our memories disagree about the timing for the switch to LG tuners inside the Zenith 900. I remember people having trouble with April manufacture, buying an April build thinking April was safe, and then finding they got Sanyo tuners, which is why everyone started looking inside by flashlight for the April builds. At this time, nobody was sure what S/N was safe.

So I looked back in this thread, and here's the proof that both tuners existed in the April build. [I'm talking about the 900, not the 901. If you thought I was saying the 901 ever had a Sanyo, I didn't. The 901 went through FCC approval with only one tuner, the LG H151F, not to be confused with the 900's LG H051F. ]

Ref. post 1530, by pioneerdat:

TalkingRat,

Thank you for correcting my misinformation. My recollection was defective.

I just snapped this photo of the main board with LG tuner in my April 2008 DTT900:
LL
post #2355 of 2443
My recollection is getting ever more defective. But I had April fused into my brain, so if I see a spare CECB at a garage sale, I know which ones to be careful about. ;-) After April it's a blur on the 900, because I jumped ship to the 901s.
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Originally Posted by TalkingRat View Post

My recollection is getting ever more defective. But I had April fused into my brain, so if I see a spare CECB at a garage sale, I know which ones to be careful about. ;-) After April it's a blur on the 900, because I jumped ship to the 901s.

I have "geezer moments" on a frequent basis.

My DTT900 is back in its box.

On behalf of my immediate and extended family I purchased six DTT901 models of April through September 2008 manufacture.

My DTT901 is in daily use feeding a Panasonic DMR-ES15 analog tuner DVD recorder set up under the table in this photo:
LL
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It's always rather seemed to me almost pointless to have an onscreen guide if you always have to tune to every channel before it will tell you what's on. I mean, once I tune it in, can't I pretty much see what's on at that point? Anyway, the thought occurred to me that since the box only consumes about 4 watts or so when on, what if I just left the box on? Would it constantly update the guide? Turns out nope. The next morning, it was asking, no telling me, that I had to again tune to the channel in order for the guide to tell me what's playing. Does the guide only stay active for an hour or two, even if you leave the tuner on?
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Yes, it does require refreshing now and then, but it has never been a big deal to me, because I get to do it at my convenience. At the start of a commercial, I run through the stations, pausing about 2 seconds on any one subchannel per station, and it's updated. Then I can go back to the channel I'm watching, and look through the now/next list without missing my show when it starts up again. I'm not even sure how often it needs to be refreshed, it seems to vary.

A peculiarity of the Zenith is that now/next is defined by the clock of the station you are on when you press the guide button. I used that to my advantage to see next/next+1 a few minutes before the hour, since I had one station that ran a few minutes fast.
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Originally Posted by Turbo DV8 View Post

It's always rather seemed to me almost pointless to have an onscreen guide if you always have to tune to every channel before it will tell you what's on. I mean, once I tune it on, can't I pretty much see what's on at that point? Anyway, the thought occurred to me that since the box only consumes about 4 watts or so when on, what if I just left the box on? Would it constantly update the guide? Turns out nope. The next morning, it was asking, no telling me, that I had to again tune to the channel in order for the guide to tell me what's playing. Does the guide only stay active for an hour or two, even if you leave the tuner on?


Now and Upcoming type guide is better than nothing- I'll take that over no data beyond a channel number. Nice to get "details" on programs- to ascertain if the program is a repeat /worth watching.. (without having to view the program)

On the guide requiring updating- I have several different units- from different manufacturers and they require the unit to be run thru the channels to get guide data refreshed.

Apex DT502's
Zinewell ZAT-970A /950A's
Zenith DTT901's
DTVPal Plus's

PS: My favorite unit out of all the CECB's I have is the DTVPal PLus, for it's guide. Very happy with them so far....


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post #2360 of 2443
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Originally Posted by zaphod7501 View Post

As a Factory Trained and Authorized servicer I had a lot of info on design and quality control. Did you know that the solder problems on early TVs built in the USA by foreign companies was caused by the refusal of American workers to wear gloves when assembling circuit boards? (since most were women it was declared sexist):

First I've heard of it. I know there was a lot of bad solder caused by the transition to water-soluble flux and more by the switch to RoHS (Ptui!) solder. With the old flux I'm surprised a little bit of finger oil made any difference.

I just repaired a Sony TV manufactured around 1988. One capacitor -- an electrolytic that was part of an always-on rectifier circuit -- failed. Other than that and a broken plastic cover, it's working great. Not bad for a 20 year old set.
post #2361 of 2443
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Originally Posted by TalkingRat View Post

No, actually the DTT901 was released in April 2008. I have one.

Zenith started using a different tuner for the 900 in mid-April. If you have a 900 April build, it's easy to tell which tuner you have by looking through the top vents with a flashlight. The earlier Sanyo has a green sticker, the later tuner has a white sticker. I do not recall anybody saying they got a 900 with a build later than April, but by then everyone I know was focused on the 901s.

Duly noted. It appears April was a transition month, with some DTT900s and DTT901s being being manufactured. Most retailers didn't offer the newer model until June.

FYI here's a newly-discovered review of the original DTT900 from Audio Audition. Curiously, there's no mention of the audio problems (sibilance and shrillness) which occasionally afflicted the original DTT900 in real-world use.
post #2362 of 2443
You may have been thinking about the Insignia -APT unit. I believe I have one of the first and it's got a manufacture month of June, 2008.
post #2363 of 2443
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Originally Posted by systems2000 View Post

You may have been thinking about the Insignia -APT unit. I believe I have one of the first and it's got a manufacture month of June, 2008.

DTT901s with an April manufacture date didn't show up in retail distribution in April. The first sightings were in late May and early June. Even as DTT901s showed up at retailers, many stores like Circuit City still stocked DTT900s alongside DTT901s right up until January 2009.

BTW, most DTT900s bought by early adopters (February and March 2008) were manufactured in November/December 2007. There was some lag time in importing and distribution these Chinese-built units. This thread is chock-full of discussion of these fine points.
post #2364 of 2443
At least in the Portland area, Circuit City was the one we blamed for the slow introduction of 901s. Zenith apparently gave CC first priority on 901 orders, and CC got themselves a storeroom full, ~138,000, and denied their existence. We knew about the 901s because a store clerk forgot to log off their computer, and somebody looked up the inventory. CC wanted to clear out all the 900s first. Meanwhile stores selling the 901s at discount (BiMart) ordered 200/week but got only 5-10, selling out within an hour of delivery.

CC sat on the 901s for awhile before people started demanding they get the 901s in as a special order. Because they came in lots of 5, one person's special order was how they finally started trickling into CC stores. I am now remembering that Zenith did not make the official announcement right away that they were stopping production of the 900. Even in June CC was selling 900s with the sound problem. Haha, I remember the store clerk told me that was all they had, because it was all the government would send them. He swore their buyers had nothing to do with what CECB they got, it's the government that buys them and sends them to the store. Uh huh.
post #2365 of 2443
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Originally Posted by TalkingRat View Post

At least in the Portland area, Circuit City was the one we blamed for the slow introduction of 901s. Zenith apparently gave CC first priority on 901 orders, and CC got themselves a storeroom full, ~138,000, and denied their existence. We knew about the 901s because a store clerk forgot to log off their computer, and somebody looked up the inventory. CC wanted to clear out all the 900s first. Meanwhile stores selling the 901s at discount (BiMart) ordered 200/week but got only 5-10, selling out within an hour of delivery.

CC sat on the 901s for awhile before people started demanding they get the 901s in as a special order. Because they came in lots of 5, one person's special order was how they finally started trickling into CC stores. I am now remembering that Zenith did not make the official announcement right away that they were stopping production of the 900. Even in June CC was selling 900s with the sound problem. Haha, I remember the store clerk told me that was all they had, because it was all the government would send them. He swore their buyers had nothing to do with what CECB they got, it's the government that buys them and sends them to the store. Uh huh.

That brings back memories. The hunt for the DTT901 got pretty intense. Here are four posts of mine that relate to Circuit City's practice of holding back DTT901 models.

This post describes my 6/18/2008 visit to the Jantzen Beach CC where I first learned that more than 13,000 DTT901 models were being held back:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post14112022

I actually scored my first DTT901 at the Jantzen Beach CC on 6/20/2008 as reported in this post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post14127216

Here is a dumb statement from the Tigard CC reported 6/20/2008:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post14128562

Two days later I visited the Jantzen Beach CC again. This is when I was able to find out that exactly 13,368 DTT901 models were being held back in the Portland area CC warehouse. Notice my comments concerning the CC "business model" in this 6/22/2008 post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post14137949

It was 6/28/2008 when I was able to score the second DTT901 at the Gateway CC store:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post14180931

Four more DTT901 models for my immediate and extended family were purchased by me at BiMart and Kmart.
post #2366 of 2443
Ah, Diga, so you were the 13,368 sleth!! Note by ginormous exaggeration, recalling it as 138K boxes. I'm truly ROFL here. Well, it did have a 1 and a 3 and an 8. I'm getting a good laugh over this.

Makes me feel like an old timer, distant memories of the 900 vs the 901. With MaxMedia vaporware thrown in. I found my 901 at BiMart with a couple hours to spare.
post #2367 of 2443
Well it finally happened to my March 2008 DTT900 box, a "blue screen of death", or rather a register dump to the screen and subsequent hang-up. It was quite exciting, to say the least. Wasn't there to see it happen, as it is on continuously and feeds the VCR.

Had to unplug the device (as front panel controls were dead) and it later reset without losing any of it's programing/channel info. Nothing special, it was on a subchannel, standard def., no CC, been on that same channel for over a year. Always thought it happened to the other guy, but I guess it may be showing it's age...lol. No biggie, quick reset and it's up and running again. May need to keep an eye on it from now on.
post #2368 of 2443
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Originally Posted by QAM View Post

Well it finally happened to my March 2008 DTT900 box, a "blue screen of death", or rather a register dump to the screen and subsequent hang-up. It was quite exciting, to say the least. Wasn't there to see it happen, as it is on continuously and feeds the VCR.

Had to unplug the device (as front panel controls were dead) and it later reset without losing any of it's programing/channel info. Nothing special, it was on a subchannel, standard def., no CC, been on that same channel for over a year. Always thought it happened to the other guy, but I guess it may be showing it's age...lol. No biggie, quick reset and it's up and running again. May need to keep an eye on it from now on.

Why am I thinking that, if we'd been in the room with you when you discovered this, the first words we'd have heard you say wouldn't have been "this is exciting!"?

This is a valuable reminder to us all that these CECBs aren't really intended to give long-term high-duty cycle service. We may expect to use them that way, but the folks who conjured up the CECB program likely only think of these boxes as an interim solution until folks can get around to upgrading their TVs - or subscription TV service!

Then again, who really expects that their recent model TVs will give them 30 years of service, like some of the 70's and 80's CRT TVs still in service have?
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Originally Posted by QAM View Post

Well it finally happened to my March 2008 DTT900 box, a "blue screen of death", or rather a register dump to the screen and subsequent hang-up. It was quite exciting, to say the least. Wasn't there to see it happen, as it is on continuously and feeds the VCR.

Had to unplug the device (as front panel controls were dead) and it later reset without losing any of it's programing/channel info. Nothing special, it was on a subchannel, standard def., no CC, been on that same channel for over a year. Always thought it happened to the other guy, but I guess it may be showing it's age...lol. No biggie, quick reset and it's up and running again. May need to keep an eye on it from now on.

I turn off my 900 and 901 models (connected to the composite inputs on a Panasonic DVD recorder) if there will be a period longer than eighteen hours between recordings. That way the Zs have a chance to catch a few Zs.
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