Master Burn-In/IR/Break In Thread Part II: All Posts Here Only - Page 67

I watch MSNBC a fair amount on my Pioneer 111 ( Matthews, Ollberman, Maddow) and their graphics now have an annoying white bar across the top of the screen throughout their programing. I certainly watch plenty of other material so thought nothing of it as far as IR. Last night I was watching a film and noticed in a bright blue sky sequence the faint image of a bar across the top of the screen and could also barely make out the MSNBC logo. Stunned at this ( especially as I haven't watched any MSNBC for days) I ran the video pattern before I went to bed. I sure hope it does the trick. I don't use the orbiter on the set because I feel it dulls the image a bit but maybe I'll have to now.

I'm running the video pattern now ( second pass) and can see the MSNBC bar still faintly on top. Damn

Hi,

I'm new here. I just bought a Panasonic TC-P50X1 this past week. I went and downloaded the break-in software on this site. I've been running it for 38 hours. And then it just dawned on me that the DVD has been running in widescreen view...when I should have been running it in full screen or zoom. Therefore the slideshow has been running with the top and bottom black bars. What should I do? Should I run the DVD for the next 38 hours at full screen to compensate for the 38 hours that it was running in widescreen? Is there a way to undo what I did? Thanks.

Just picked up a Panasonic 42S1. Did the break in slides for 2 hours before I flipped out and watched Star Wars...in letterbox. Then I played MW2 for a couple hours. After that I browsed the web for an hour. I think 10 hours of Football tomorrow should round out my "break in".

My parents picked up a 600Hz LG Plasma set a few weeks ago. Picture quality is incredible, anyways IR was kind of problem in the beginning. They watch a particular channel that always displays a logo on the bottom right hand of the screen. In the beginning of use the logo would produce a very noticeable IR image, but as the set gets used more and more the image is not as apparent. Plus after watching two hours of Hi-Def content without any logos, the screen clears itself of any IR including that logo. So while I do expect the logo to ghost back onto the screen, I'm not worried as watching logo free content for a few hours will clear the screen of any IR. In other words lighten up. The technology has improved enough for the problem to rid itself.

I made a thread about my IR issues, but I will try to post them here as part of the IR thread. Here was my last post.

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So I got my bloody valentine on blu ray tonight. I watched it the whole way through and it completely filled the screen (no bars whatsoever). I watched it in movie mode with a contrast of 75.

With about 15 min left in the film I put the subtitles on. By the time the film was over, i could see what looked like 3 blurry white bars in the middle of the screen where the subtitles would appear. I never paused it or anything. There was no legible text, just some white areas.

This IR was only visible in a dark or black scene. I did not notice it when I began watching normal television. Im VERY dissapointed that this happened. I cant believe there was noticeable IR even when there was moving text!!

I havent checked in the service menu yet but Im probably at about 50 or so hours. At this point, I feel like I want to package this thing up and return it to the store first thing in the morning. If anybody can help me get out of the 15% restocking fee Ill really appreciate it.

IR does happen on most plasmas so don't fret, it will dissipate and disappear quickly...read up on this forum and you will quickly learn that temporay IR is quickly erased by watching more content...

That's impossible. Various people on this forum have been saying for years that burn-in on plsmas is basically a thing of the past, unless of course the tv is "abused". I'm sure it's just your fault for watching MSNBC.

/sarcasm

My 6020FD is well past the break-in period (based on information taken from this forum) and, since I have nothing to compare it to, I'm curious whether a process exists for determining whether it needs to be calibrated? It still looks good, IMO, but if it can be made to look better... Thanks

From what I understand, if it hasnt been calibrated chances are the picture quality can improve. If it has been properly calibrated after the break in period was done, I dont think another calibration would be beneficial..unless of course plasmas need to be calibrated several times over the course of their life??

Hello everyone, it's been a while since I posted on here. I have owned the Kuro for almost 2 years now. I never used the built in screen protection features because stupid me thought it took away from the picture quality. Anyway I now notice the channel 5 fox logo burned in whenever the screen has a bright white scene. Is there anyway to get this to go away? I tried the screen saving video pattern but I still see the channel 5 logo while the white bar is going accross the screen. Thanks 2 all who respond to me. PS I did not use the break in DVD.

I have attempted to run the slides from D-Nice on an SD card on my P50X1, it will display the first slide and then give me an error. When looking at all thumbs on the TV ( :: )it appears as tho the TV is trying to display the remaining lines of the slide (1080p-720p=350 lines(?))as the next slide?
Are there 720p specific slides available. I realize this doesn't make sense.
Thanks!
Qt

Sounds like a problem with your SD card. I would reformat the card and download the slides again.
If you use a Mac, it will load hidden files on the card that have to be deleted. Some here might know how.

Just bought a new 50 inch G15 and the guy at the store recommended breaking it in by watching full screen hd for the first 100 hrs or so. Should I go this route or should I use the thumbdrive pics and settings in the 1st post by d nice in the panny 12 g thread?

Either method is fine. I just watched full-screen HD to break in both of my Panny plasmas. Put it in THX mode and forget about it.

I just got a Panny 42" TCPS1. It arrived on Monday and I have been trying to break it in. The thing that is bugging me is the logo in the corner of so many tv stations. How much do I have to worry about these? To be honest most of my tv watching is done via DVR. I am recording SD mainly for space purposes. I have the TV set for full screen, so I am not worried about the black bars. And for the live broadcast shows that haven't been recorded in HD, I am watching the SD channel so it is in full screen. I figure with the long weekend, I will have almost 60 hours of break in done. I also got one of those Blu Scene Blu rays and I have been playing that when I'm not in the room. I can't believe how good SD looks.

Since day one I have been gaming, browsing, tv watching, and just generally abusing the thing. Nearly 2 weeks later, I haven't seen any IR @ all. I run the slides occasionally and let the rolling bar go to town if I have to run to the other room. But I'm not watching anything zoomed in and play games w/ huds for hours.

I am new to Plasma. I have been through several forum topics here over the last month or two researching which set I wanted to purchase, etc...so I may have already read and forgotten the answer to my question somewhere (possibly this forum). Forgive me if this has already been covered.

If the point of the 250 hr break-in is to "age" the cells (and you are using full screen slides shown in loop only with no normal programing, video games, etc...), wouldn't it make sense to increase the cell light and other settings during that time frame rather than back them off? Maybe I'm way off base here (I am definately not an AV resource). Are the cells more susceptible to damage from higher currents/voltages, or temps during that period?

I'm sure someone will be able to provide insight. Thanks for all the posts. The amount of information I have acquired (and in some cases already forgotten) is staggering!

Thanks

play a lot of demon soul the las 4 days it's possible to get burn in on a display which already has over 2000hs

After 2hs of watching a movie and a few minutes of white wash I'm still seeing pArt of the life bar on the display.

Already had de orbiter on btw

my tv is a lg plasma pg60

Either method is fine but you don't need to avoid using your TV for its intended purposes. Feel free to enjoy some HD programming, Blu-rays and video games.

I have an interesting inquiry. Let's say someone watches pillarbox or 2.35:1 aspect content 25-50% of the time their plasma is on. Presuming that phosphors age based on luminance, wouldn't those black areas age less then the center of the screen, and inevitably over time reveal themselves as uneven phosphor wear on bright screens? What I'm asking is, isn't uneven wear in this situation inevitable given enough time, and if not...why not? Thanks.

I am seriously dismayed to have to report that I've had my first incidence of IR on my Panasonic 46G10, and it's what I'd consider severe.

I played a lot of Assassin's Creed II on my 360 over the weekend, which is a game featuring a very static and prominent HUD. I'm well past 100 hours, if not 200 (I haven't checked recently, have had the set two months) so I figured I was totally safe. Apparently, I was wrong. I guess I played too much without mixing it up, because when I powered the set on last night, I was greeted by a VERY prominent dark image of the HUD before the image from my cable box was displayed.

It was my hope that it would been soon washed away by watching normal HD programming; however, while it has significantly faded, four hours later portions of the HUD were still visible when that portion of the screen is displaying certain solid colors. At that point, I needed to go to bed, so I powered the set off for the night. I'll go back home this evening and start in with more HD watching in hopes of fulling washing the IR away.

Looking for opinions: How much longer should I wait for the image to fully fade before I completely panic, call it burn-in, and smash myself in the face with a hammer for destroying a $1,000 display?

I would say give it a day or two or more. Stay away from AC2 for a while though. Plus if you're only noticing it on no signal screens, I wouldn't worry.

Maybe set the set to power off automatically overnight if possible on a station with no bugs. Set the sleep mode that way it gets some extra usage out of it.

Well, it's not only on no signal screens, that's just where it's most obviously noticeable. I can make it out on a regular image, but only when it's a solid bright color, and often I have to struggle to make it out; I'd say 90% of the time during normal programming, it's invisible. And fortunately, I'd finished off AC2, so I won't be going back there at all.

I plan to run the screen wiper for a good while tonight, hopefully that will clean it the rest of the way off.

Sorry for the stupid question but during the break in period using the break in disk can I still watch regular TV druing the day and use the break in disc at night? Is this advisable or is better to not watch any TV until I have logged 150 to 200 hours using the breakin disc.

Thanks in advance.

Go ahead and enjoy your TV and continue the breakin process as well. When watching your Tv, you're breaking it in. Just keep the contrast and brightness down a tad (no torch mode). Also, try to watch everything in full screen mode (you may have to use the zoom or stretch).

I would say having to wait two hours for the screen to clear the logo is TOO LONG! I wouldn't want to have to see a ghost logo on the screen while watching other content. If ghost images take longer than a few seconds to go away, that's too long for me.

LOL...stay away from AC2... Do you really think people that want to consider Plasma for their next purchase, want to hear that? After reading a lot of posts in this forum, it appears IR is STILL a problem with current plasma models. I don't know about everyone else, but I don't want a display device that keeps an after-image, and where I have to play a burn-in disc for several hours before that ghost image disappears.

I am trying to decide if plasmas are getting worse not better. I have a Panny TC-P65V10arriving this week and came upon this forum and this thread by accident. What I am wondering after reading more pages than I have ever seen on one subject,lol, is how my 2003 Panny TH-50PHD5UY is even viewable after the way I broke it in. I knew nothing about breaking in a plasma until about an hour or so ago when I read this thread, I brought the old one home, hung it on the wall turned it on.... the picture was spectacular and never adjusted anything or dimmed anything. I have watched everything from day one that according to this thread, should have 'burned in' and IR'd the screen into submission by now, yet the picture is stiil beautiful ( just had a compliment from company that was over for the Rose parade and football), the only reason I am getting the new unit is I want BIGGER. We have a Panny TH-42PD50U in the bedroom that is over 2 years old that we broke in the same way and we have never seen any type of IR on either unit.

So my question is after reading everything here, is all the breakin described here really necessary or is the fact that we watch every type of program and format,HD & SD, full screen,letterbox,etc,etc just as good a break in, or did we just get lucky with the two sets we own and we should possibly do a testimonial for Panasonic, lol.

At this point it shows up faintly, so I am not to worried about it. The main thing is it keeps getting washed away.

You don't have to play some burn in disc anytime you happen to have IR, just watch something different. Do you really watch only ONE thing on your set? Normal use does not create IR, and IR always goes away. I would rather deal with the minor issue of IR versus taking a PQ hit with a LCD. Plus it's like playing Russian roulette trying to get one without a flaw.

For the record, I have had IR on a couple of things: Madden 10, NCAA 09, and Batman Arkham Asylum. ALL have gone away while watching regular TV within a matter of minutes. Actually even seconds. NOTHING has shown through regular viewing that interrupts my viewing pleasure.

Plus my set is on ESPN 80% of it's hours. Shouldn't I have a permanent ticker following me everywhere?