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post #3151 of 5206
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Originally Posted by Boldhead View Post

Hi guys,

I read some story's here about heavy IR of channel logo's. Did anyone actually got rid of? I got some heavy IR of 2 dutch channel logo's (out of the box settings, too high contrast for some 3 or 4 weeks).
Mine has faded alot, but still clearly visible when a solid light background is displayed. It now doesnt appear to fade anymore, or so little that it is barely noticeble. I tried the screenwasher last night for a couple of hour but this seems to worsen it a bit. Hope that it will fade by time, but I guess it will take a long time.... :-(

I have the same thing with the YES logo. It wont go away. Ive given up trying to get rid of it
post #3152 of 5206
I've read many posts where people post the number of hours on their new Samsung plasmas

I assume they are estimating this but if not, is there a way to tell from the set itself?
post #3153 of 5206
Well, I'm at 1,200 hours after my IR was detected and I can only say that during that time I have learned to live with the problem.

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Originally Posted by Boldhead View Post

Hi guys,

I read some story's here about heavy IR of channel logo's. Did anyone actually got rid of? I got some heavy IR of 2 dutch channel logo's (out of the box settings, too high contrast for some 3 or 4 weeks).
Mine has faded alot, but still clearly visible when a solid light background is displayed. It now doesnt appear to fade anymore, or so little that it is barely noticeble. I tried the screenwasher last night for a couple of hour but this seems to worsen it a bit. Hope that it will fade by time, but I guess it will take a long time.... :-(
post #3154 of 5206
First time with plasma, should of stick with LCD. These ir are making me nervous. I want to crank up my cell light n contras when playing xbox, but these thread are scaring me away. What your best solution for games? Just got my tv today, 150 so hrs to go? Any1 got problem with there pn64d8000 ir yet.
post #3155 of 5206
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Originally Posted by r2crd View Post

Well, I'm at 1,200 hours after my IR was detected and I can only say that during that time I have learned to live with the problem.

If it has been 1,200 since the IR started wouldn't that make it more burn-in, or does the IR change?
post #3156 of 5206
Well, I had heavy IR from setting up my receiver and the logo retained on my screen for more than two months. My TV was pretty new and with approximately 25hrs clocked in at the time.
There are a couple of things you can do to avoid this problem (or possibly eliminate the current problem):

1.) Turned brightness and contrast down between 51-52 (or 50%)
2.) Avoid channels with bright logos for the time being, or tune in less.

The key is to not repeat the culprit, if you think that particular channel is causing IR, then lessen your time with it.
Now, every time when I do a setup, I customized one of the screen settings on my plasma to very low contrast/brightness from the remote and use it whenever I'm messing with my receiver. It helped, and preventing its GUI screen from getting any potential IR. Today, my screen is as perfect as new, there are no more IR blemishes behind a white screen or fast panning-screen. Having the brightness and contrast down is the main solution!
post #3157 of 5206
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Originally Posted by 80sGuy View Post

Well, I had heavy IR from setting up my receiver and the logo retained on my screen for more than two months. My TV was pretty new and with approximately 25hrs clocked in at the time.
There are a couple of things you can do to avoid this problem (or possibly eliminate the current problem):

1.) Turned brightness and contrast down between 51-52 (or 50%)
2.) Avoid channels with bright logos for the time being, or tune in less.

The key is to not repeat the culprit, if you think that particular channel is causing IR, then lessen your time with it.
Now, every time when I do a setup, I customized one of the screen settings on my plasma to very low contrast/brightness from the remote and use it whenever I'm messing with my receiver. It helped, and preventing its GUI screen from getting any potential IR. Today, my screen is as perfect as new, there are no more IR blemishes behind a white screen or fast panning-screen. Having the brightness and contrast down is the main solution!

Your prob right on that part, but if contras is that low, we wont be able to enjoy picture quality, because it so dark.
post #3158 of 5206
You know it sucks we can't just enjoy the TV with any settings we choose. To have to turn down brightness, contrast, cell light, sharpness etc is just ridiculous. It is stupid. Thinking I should have probably got an led TV instead and not worry about all this crap. This is my first ever plasma.
post #3159 of 5206
Mine is set at 54 Brightness and 55 Contrast and it is perfect, not low at all and pretty bright and vibrant. Color temp is also set at Warm2.
post #3160 of 5206
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Originally Posted by tboy2000 View Post

You know it sucks we can't just enjoy the TV with any settings we choose. To have to turn down brightness, contrast, cell light, sharpness etc is just ridiculous. It is stupid. Thinking I should have probably got an led TV instead and not worry about all this crap. This is my first ever plasma.

I'm right in there with you bro. I use to love my led LCD before start seeing cloud patch. Bb told me, oh burn in are in the past. I was like, ok, stress free. But whatever that bb employee didn't no what he was talking about. My first plasma too, and it feel like I'm taking care of a "baby". Lol.. No offense but that how i feel with my plasma. When i spend per $35000 on it. Dam it.
post #3161 of 5206
Hi All,

I just got myself a 46 Panasonic G25. From what I read the previous threads, panel like that doesn't need to run the burn-in DVD at all. Is that correct?

Thanks for the help!
post #3162 of 5206
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Originally Posted by shadyridr View Post

I have the same thing with the YES logo. It wont go away. Ive given up trying to get rid of it

How long have you got it by now?
Mine I noticed some 3 weeks ago by now, but it got a lot better the last week. If it's keeps on improving like this I think it will be gone in another 3 or 4 weeks...
post #3163 of 5206
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Originally Posted by Boldhead View Post

How long have you got it by now?
Mine I noticed some 3 weeks ago by now, but it got a lot better the last week. If it's keeps on improving like this I think it will be gone in another 3 or 4 weeks...

Have had it for about a month now. My big problem is its hard for it to go away since Im always watching Yankee games. I try changing channel and zooming sometimes.
post #3164 of 5206
I've got a panny G25, bought in January. While the TV was new I had set a wake up timer in the morning, I would normally turn it off after 20 minutes or so. Then I worked overnight a few times and the TV had turned on with the timer and then turned off with the 90 minute timer. I have a burned in image of the old science channel logo (orange square.) I've been using the screen wipe a little more frequently, and displaying zoomed in channels with bright settings for a few hours here and there. The logo has started to fade, but I can still it on bright solid colors in the corner.

I'm hoping the logo will completely lift so it will stop driving me crazy, but I can see the logo everytime I use the screen wipe, it's plain as day when the white bar passes over it.

I have the pixel orbiter set to periodic 1 min, I even have the settings pretty low for the directv input, it's pretty dark in the room I have the TV. It's also not a very big room so I sit a little closer to it than I should. Which is probably why I notice the IR on black screens.
post #3165 of 5206
^^It will disappear so long as you stop what you're doing, but might take weeks, if not months. Watch regular TV and let it work its own magic. I know because I 'had' a logo retained on my screen for more than two months!
post #3166 of 5206
OK, picked up my P50S30 today and have some questions about breaking in the set.

Is it really necessary and if it is could I just watch full screen movies to break it in?
Also should I not adjust any of the picture settings till after the break-in period?
I really wanted to watch some sports on it but the burn-in concerns me
post #3167 of 5206
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Originally Posted by car421 View Post

OK, picked up my P50S30 today and have some questions about breaking in the set.

Is it really necessary and if it is could I just watch full screen movies to break it in?
Also should I not adjust any of the picture settings till after the break-in period?
I really wanted to watch some sports on it but the burn-in concerns me

A lot of people recommend a lot of things. But as for me, don't touch any setting until tell the first hrs according to some isf forum I read. Avoid any black bar on top or on the side. I use this break in dvd slide which works pretty good. Fullscreen should be fine if contrast and cell light is low. But I recommend putting as much hrs as possible, cause NFL is around the corner.
post #3168 of 5206
hmm.. from reading the first post... if i leave the contrast to 100 and the brightness to 100.. and using the break in cd.. would the break in process go quicker? (of course this will only be set when i can monitor it throughout the day)

thanks!
post #3169 of 5206
Can anyone help me out? I'm trying to download the Evangelo2's USB/SD card files, but the link is dead! Anyone have another link? Checked Google and I get pointed to the same link from all sources.

Edit:
Never mind. The link works now! Strange!
post #3170 of 5206
So I've done some research on my own and I see Panasonic use to recommend a 100 hour break in period. But is there any empirical data that backs/justifies the 100 hour break in period? Has any organization/institution took the effort to buy multiple TVs and have them go through a series of content and determine if IR/BI is more prevalent in sets that did NOT go through the break in process?
post #3171 of 5206
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Originally Posted by chandra.hp View Post

So I've done some research on my own and I see Panasonic use to recommend a 100 hour break in period. But is there any empirical data that backs/justifies the 100 hour break in period? Has any organization/institution took the effort to buy multiple TVs and have them go through a series of content and determine if IR/BI is more prevalent in sets that did NOT go through the break in process?

Hi,

my recommendation will be use your tv with full screen content and without any channel logos for the first 6 months.And do not run your plasma tv when no one is around it.In my case i tried to use the break-in slides.And on day one itself i had mild pink,yellow & green patches(I.R) here and there.From the following day i started watching BD movies just 6hours a day.And when the content had black bars at the top & bottom,i used the zoom one mode which is available in my panasonic model.

Now my tv has crossed that 100hr mark and i have allowed my wife to see her soaps & serials that too having channel logos.I do not get any I.R.By the way she keeps changing tv channels every 30 to 40 minutes.And inbetween serials they put lots of adds during that period their is no channel logos.

And another thing that i have noticed is that as working hours of the plasma increases one could clearly notice vivid improvement in contrast & color quality.i.e as they age its picture quality increases,you will have to once again increase its brightness and other corresponding settings based on your personal viewing taste.

love,
kris.
post #3172 of 5206
If we could only get those networks to stop displaying those stupid ash logo's we wouldn't have to worry about IR!
post #3173 of 5206
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Originally Posted by kris achar View Post
Hi,

my recommendation will be use your tv with full screen content and without any channel logos for the first 6 months.And do not run your plasma tv when no one is around it.In my case i tried to use the break-in slides.And on day one itself i had mild pink,yellow & green patches(I.R) here and there.From the following day i started watching BD movies just 6hours a day.And when the content had black bars at the top & bottom,i used the zoom one mode which is available in my panasonic model.

Now my tv has crossed that 100hr mark and i have allowed my wife to see her soaps & serials that too having channel logos.I do not get any I.R.By the way she keeps changing tv channels every 30 to 40 minutes.And inbetween serials they put lots of adds during that period their is no channel logos.

And another thing that i have noticed is that as working hours of the plasma increases one could clearly notice vivid improvement in contrast & color quality.i.e as they age its picture quality increases,you will have to once again increase its brightness and other corresponding settings based on your personal viewing taste.

love,
kris.
Noted. And that is what Panasonic is still currently recommending from various sources around the net. I'll still do the slides, but I'm certainly NOT going to do it for 4 days straight! Maybe one day or two days.

I'm due to receive my 50GT30 this Friday and my family would kill me if I tell them they can't use the brand new high end TV for the living room till Tuesday (completely missing the long weekend). Everyone is dying to see Avatar in 3D!
post #3174 of 5206
After about 6 months of ownership my Samsung PN58C8000 got burn in from the Cartoon Network HD channel. I ran break in slides for days and nights on end, probably close to 100 hours, I never ran in "torch mode" I actually used the optimal settings that CNET posted which kept the brightness,contrast, etc down. I also didnt allow any 4:3 content on my tv. My guess is that the babysitter I had left it on CN all freakin day, but even then, there are commercials like crazy on that channel so the indicator goes away and is filled with images, so the burn in shouldnt have happened. I filled a service request out on samsung.com, and the repair man told me that when the new panel arrived, they would be out to install. Well he came out about 4 days later, and looked at my panel, took pictures and said that he would have to get back to me because he didnt think samsung would authorize the repair. I got a call the next day saying that Samsung is authorizing the repair, so I am getting a new Panel. Im just gonna crank everything down, way down, and then only crank things up for my blu ray movies. I also locked cartoon network on my Dish DVR and contacted Cartoon Network about what happened and told them that I am personally boycotting their channel until they address their static logo.
post #3175 of 5206
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Originally Posted by tboy2000 View Post

You know it sucks we can't just enjoy the TV with any settings we choose. To have to turn down brightness, contrast, cell light, sharpness etc is just ridiculous. It is stupid. Thinking I should have probably got an led TV instead and not worry about all this crap. This is my first ever plasma.

lool. what dramatic. i dont know what plasma model you have but i have a panasonic G20 and i never did the 100hours precautions...since first hour i calibrated like i want. i play lot of uncharted2 and never get IR the only time i had a litle IR was when i was see a movie put pause and go eat something...this was like 15m and with a white image. the IR after 5m almost dissapear and after 15m completed dissapear.

burn in is almost impossible to happen on panasonic plasma since 2009 and from my experience IR dont happen very easy.
Samsung plasma is a diferrent story...last year samsung plasma still have burn in and lot of cases with IR, but this year i dont know.

others plasmas was even worse than Samsung so serious avoid them.
post #3176 of 5206
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Originally Posted by chandra.hp View Post

So I've done some research on my own and I see Panasonic use to recommend a 100 hour break in period. But is there any empirical data that backs/justifies the 100 hour break in period? Has any organization/institution took the effort to buy multiple TVs and have them go through a series of content and determine if IR/BI is more prevalent in sets that did NOT go through the break in process?

just dont use high contrast before reach 100hours (i keep asking me why someone will use high contrast settings) and just enjoy the tv.
forget the rest...
post #3177 of 5206
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Originally Posted by chandra.hp View Post

Noted. And that is what Panasonic is still currently recommending from various sources around the net. I'll still do the slides, but I'm certainly NOT going to do it for 4 days straight! Maybe one day or two days.

I'm due to receive my 50GT30 this Friday and my family would kill me if I tell them they can't use the brand new high end TV for the living room till Tuesday (completely missing the long weekend). Everyone is dying to see Avatar in 3D!

dont worry to much. you have a Panasonic plasma so just dont put contrast/brightness high in first 100 hours the rest forget.
you can see 2.35:1 content (with horizontal black bars) and channel with sticky logos.

just need to change channel every 2-3hours just as a caution measure
post #3178 of 5206
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Originally Posted by car421 View Post

OK, picked up my P50S30 today and have some questions about breaking in the set.

Is it really necessary and if it is could I just watch full screen movies to break it in?
Also should I not adjust any of the picture settings till after the break-in period?
I really wanted to watch some sports on it but the burn-in concerns me


sure... you can whatch full screen movies or any kind of stuff to break in.
before 100hours just dont use high contrast/brightness (but this will put a crap IQ IMO so dont know why people want settings with high brigh and high contrast unless the living room is very very ligh)

for the last question, as i say you can see all kind of stuff.....sticky logos and black bars arent really a problem for panasonic plasmas but for a cautions measure you can try skip them for first 100hours, after this time forget that and simple enjoy tv.

IR and burn in is the major factor why i personal recommend panasonic to samsung .LG plasma are not even near panasonic/samsung IQ level so i never recommend them.
post #3179 of 5206
Hey all, this is my first post on this forum. I'm hoping someone can help with a problem I'm having.

I bought a new Panasonic vt30 when they came out (about two months ago) and last weekend after playing Portal 2 and watching Netflix on my xbox360 for about 4 hours (in THX mode) I started to notice two white spots down the center of my screen. I've played a number of games since I got the TV and have never had any problems until now. The spots are only really visible when the image goes to either an all white screen or a lighter gradient but they are driving me crazy. Is this burn in/IR or something else? If so, is there anything that can be done aside from running the set for a long period of time? I've run the anti image retention scroll bars a number of times but it doesn't seem to be helping.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
post #3180 of 5206
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Originally Posted by chandra.hp View Post
Noted. And that is what Panasonic is still currently recommending from various sources around the net. I'll still do the slides, but I'm certainly NOT going to do it for 4 days straight! Maybe one day or two days.

I'm due to receive my 50GT30 this Friday and my family would kill me if I tell them they can't use the brand new high end TV for the living room till Tuesday (completely missing the long weekend). Everyone is dying to see Avatar in 3D!
Congrats on your purchase. I just got my 50GT30 in on Tuesday. You can just run the slides between usage, no need to stop the family fun. I've used the zoom function on all letterbox and 4:3 ratios. Haven't had an issue with logos as I really don't watch television, just movies. All other times I'm running slides. It's pretty much has been on for four days nonstop. Trying to get it ready for gaming and get those first 100-200 hours out of the way.
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