Master Burn-In/IR/Break In Thread Part II: All Posts Here Only - Page 108

... I really need to just stop reading AVS once I've decided to buy something.

I have a GT30 on the way, and the Wife and I game pretty regularly.

I think I'm just going to stop worrying about it. Either the IR will be terrible and I'll simply stop consuming /all video media period,/ (Because I enjoy gaming far more than movies and don't watch any TV of any kind,) or I won't notice the IR at all, since I've put up with a LCD screen which has severe flashlighting and banding.

Decided to pick this set up due to the issues above with my current Phillips, and the increasing annoyance of the severe lag.

To be honest, the more time I spend on these forums, the more I tend to avoid audio and visual entertainment. I suppose that's actually a good thing.

Hi - I just bought this TV and search for settings to break it in.

Do you need to break in LED's?

Thanks for any quick response. I want to start breaking it in.

No , You do not!

just dont game on the gt30 for the frist 150 hours and you will be ok

Thanks Bigmac. I'm still wondering about 4:3 black bars, because technically they don't "burn in," correct? With regards to black bars it's uneven aging of the phosphors that one has to worry about, right? Now I do watch a lot of older black and white 4:3 films, how much does anyone here notice the uneven aging? I know with Panasonic you can change 4:3 black bars to grey, but wouldn't the grey bars actually be more likely to burn in than the black bars?

Hi,
what you have said seems to be right,But if you have a panny i think it has got a settings called 4:3 Full content option.Try it but one down side is the objects will appear slightly bolted or stout.And i personally use my plasma only to watch HD content in 16:9 ratio without black bars.And if the 16:9 Content does not fill my screen i just use the zoom one mode.Or else most of the time i leave the setting to "just" or 1:1 pixel mode.I think its often referred to as over-scan.By doing so all the sides,edges gets filled with video content properly.What's really funny is that even 50 years or more of color cinema & broadcasting they have not yet reached a proper standard for Full HD in terms of ntsc,pal system and also 16:9 HDTV's still puts out black bars on top & bottom of the screen.This is really not encouraging.Since i changed by sony crt to hdtv just with the hope that i will not see anymore black bars.But its still visible in most of the modern BD movies.

love,
kris.

Hi everybody,

I am strongly considering to purchase my first ever plasma tv, and my choice is the panasonic G30. However i am not sure if this is the right choice, or if i should go LCD instead.

The thing is the television will be placed in my bedroom, so that means movie watching in a dark room, that is the reason i'd much prefer plasma, addition to the great PQ and greater motion.

However, the majority material i will be watching is blu rays, which means black bars (like 8 out of 10 hours will be bluray), however i only use the tv like 3-4 times a week TOPS, watching 1 thing at a time, so i maybe use the tv 5-8 hours a week. All material will be played through DLNA or Bluray player. Since i don't intend to game or watch normal television, since i don't have an antenna in my room, i am not afraid of the logo burn ins and stuff like that, only thing i am afraid of is the black bars.

Will the black bars cause much of a concern for me, if i were to do an occasional screen wash, or am i doomed to another LCD?

(Example would be i watched 4 bluray movies (not in a row), and then watched an hour or two of some fullscreen series and repeated this pattern forever)

What makes you think that Blu-ray = 2.35:1 (black bars) content?

Hi,
As you said most of the modern movies mastered in Blu-ray format is 16:9 but does have black bars on the top & bottom most of the time..
But since you are going to watch BD content or HD content most of the time,you can simply enlarge the video to fit the screen,Say zoom one mode which most of the latest panasonic plasma's have got.
Believe me the video does not appear elongated or bulging as many would think so.And the image is also not blurred.So when you have BD content with full screen content just switch it back to 16:9 or "just" option.
And there is nothing much to worry about.
My suggestion will be always buy hi end or top of the line models be it 2d or 3d.i.e G series or GT,VT series.Even last year model g-20 or gt-20,vt-20 with Size range for bedroom will be 42 to 46 inches plasma will be an excellent choice.It is not necessary that you buy the latest models.Since most of the 2011 models are highly glossy black finish with one sheet of glass type.It seems to reflect more external light from the surroundings.
Plasma viewing is so gentle on the eyes,especially when you retire from work for the day and are relaxing in your bed,the video from plasma tv are not at all painfull on the eyes !

Love,
kris.

Well almost all my bluray films are that format

Interesting. My Blu-ray library is probably a 50-50 mix of 16:9 and 2.35:1 content.

If a movie came out in theaters in 3D, then it will take up the entire screen.

If the movie is a Pixar movie, a cartoon, or animated, then it will take up the entire screen.

If the movie is a major production (and NOT 3D), then it will probably have black bars.

This is just the trend I have noticed.

False to everything you just said. That is not how it works. 3D or Pixar cartoon doesnt mean it is always 16:9 as there have been numerous animated movies that are not 16:9. It is up to the director on the film aspect ratio. Please read up on how aspect ratios work before spouting nonsense on this board.

Okay, guess you missed the part where I said "At least this is the trend that I have noticed."

And according to what I've experienced, it's very true. Why would a 3D movie NOT take up the full screen? That doesn't even make sense. Transformers 1 and 2 both come in black bars, but I bet you $1,000,000,000,000,000 that Transformers 3 takes up the entire screen. (No, I haven't seen it.)

BTW, If you're going to give me a condescending "FALSE," then at least give me an example of movies that contradict my post.

Wrong again. Aspect ratio: 2.40:1.

Dear friends,

here the topic of discussion was what to do if black bars(Top & bottom)are visible even in latest widescreen BD mastered movies ? In that case how to avoid IR or Burn-in.
But i see we are arguing here about the aspect ratio.And not giving suggestion as to what to do if that is the case ?

Love,
kris.

Like I said before, that doesn't make sense. Why would a 3D movie not take up the entire screen on your TV?

Because movies are made for the formats/aspect ratios of movie theater screens, and not TV screens.

I agree and i think its ridiculously silly to release blu-rays with black bars. I don't care if they want to release the movie the exact same way as it was in the theater. Few of us have movie theater size screens in our homes and to me it makes zero sense to not use a portion of the 16:9 screen.

I dont think you can avoid getting a little IR from a letterboxed blu-ray, however if you mix up your viewing content it should never be an issue. I watched 2 blu-rays on the weekend with bars, after i was done i noticed a bit of IR from the bars on the green slide. I watched regular TV later that day for an hour and the bars were gone.

Mike

Thanks for the advice Tazz. The Wife is going off on a lengthy vacation with a buddy of hers, so I'm going to let the set churn through slides for at least 100 hours while I take care of other important errands.

... Like going out and drinking at a local sports bar.

It wouldn't bother me if TVs had a break-in feature to very slowly move the black-barred content up and down the screen while viewing.

So I guess you also preferred pan & scan when we used to watch 4:3 CRT sets?

http://www.eoshd.com/content/265/phi...80p-resolution

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Personally, I could never understand how people could stand pan and scan. How's that for a tongue twister? :P

You can watch an letter=box movie and it doesn't matter how much you wash, you run into uneven pixel use . The more letter-boxed movies you watch, the more uneven pixel use you acquire! Cheers

I'll say it again, try a different set besides Samsung® models and try turning on orbiter for a change in between pause screens you leave up while you contemplate how to make your hypothetical sets get more burn-in.

You know what's really odd about IR on plasma?

Sometimes my wife and I leave the TV on mute while we have dinner. The Samsung has a little blue box that comes up in the bottom-left that says "Mute" during this period.

We have left the TV on mute for HOURS with that little box.

To this day, there is no burn-in or IR there. Nothing. I've looked! Believe me. Three years ago I thought "OMG!" and checked. Here we are in late 2011 and just last night we had it on mute again. I checked against a full-screen white image and nothing.

^^Some gui on the screen are very subtle and not in torch mode. I can watch certain programs for hours and hours like 'Animal Planet' and 'Showtime' movies with its logos/names plastered all over the screen and nothing will happen, but as soon as I switch to ESPN, all hell broke loose! So IR is there, some are heavy and others are not, it's just the nature of plasma.

LOL! I wish I had my Samsung LN A650! I is the only TV made by Samsung that I have owned. It is sitting in the bedroom with a broken screen! Anyone want it for parts.?

Just picked this TV up from Best Buy and I want to avoid IR/Burn in and I understand you are the folks to see about this....What settings do I need to maintain for the first 150-200 hours. Secondly, is there any type of programming to avoid (sports, all HD, gaming etc) I understand gaming is a no-no during the break in period, thats fine. Is there anything special I need to do?

Admittedly, I am bit of a noob when it comes to plasma so all help is appreciated.

Thanks,