Master Burn-In/IR/Break In Thread Part II: All Posts Here Only - Page 126

Originally Posted by Aliens

Does your TV have a SD card slot or USB? If so, that would be the simple way to go. Slip it in and put it on repeat slideshow. I'm not familiar with using a CD for that procedure. Also, with the SD or USB, the TV is the only thing that needs to be on.

Originally Posted by StevenC56

Yes on both slots-How do I convert the zipfile and install the slides on a USB stick then?

Originally Posted by tveli

thanks to all the folks here reporting their experience with plasma burnin.
as a CRT snob, i can't bring myself to buy a big LCD/"LED" or a big plasma. yet. Sooner or later I'll have to buy an absurdly huge flat panel 'smart tv' at walmart however.
I often leave the TV on 24x7 for days at a time, on whatever random free-TV-channel, or on a MOXI-DVR screen, so gotta avoid the plasmas. is what it is.

TTFN !

Originally Posted by tveli

as a CRT snob

Originally Posted by jbrady3324

I have 2:35:1 letterbox black bar burn-in. As this is due to uneven phosphor wear, is there a way to reverse/reduce this by playing images only on the top and bottom portions of the TV? I am currently running slides of white shades on the top and bottom of the screen and black/grey shades in the middle

I am looking for images that do multiple colors instead of just white

Originally Posted by eagle_2

So this can actually happen just from watching letterboxed films? I keep wondering why I went with plasma since their images aren't perfect anyways (hockey pops, etc) and I have to worry every time I watch anything. People keep saying how CRT and LCD was also susceptible to IR, but let's be honest with ourselves - how difficult is it to get IR on an LCD or CRT? I used to game for marathon sessions and watch hours straight of letterboxed films on my old CRT, sometimes I'd even fall asleep with it on and wake up in the morning to a static weather screen or something, and never, ever, with all of my CRTs, did I ever have the slightest hint of anything like IR. It was virtually impossible to get even a slight hint of IR on CRTs unless you literally used it as a point-of-sale monitor at a store or something that would have the same image on for years. That's the only time I ever saw IR/burn-in on any type of CRT display.

Originally Posted by jbrady3324

Yes it can definitely happen. The phosphors wear at different rates resulting in this type of burn-in. Although, burn-in is not the right term as it is just uneven wear of the TV.

Originally Posted by eagle_2

Well I guess the next question should be how much letterbox viewing does it take for this uneven wear to happen to plasma? I watch lots of films, many of which are letterboxed (anyone who watches blu-ray or DVD will certainly come across letterboxing regularly). I also watch lots of 4:3 material. So then am I going to regret owning a plasma? The more I think about it the more I think that the benefits of plasma are outweighed by the strict limitations on what you can actually view on it safely.

Originally Posted by jbrady3324

No you won't regret it. I have two Pioneer Plasmas:

141fd - Bought used with the letterbox burn-in already present. Owner used it mainly for blu-rays.. most of them must have been 2.35:1

500m - Watch non-stop ESPN and a ton of 2.35:1 blu-rays. There isn't a hint of retention/burn-in anywhere.

They key is to use the right calibrated contrast setting most of the time and to mix up watch you watch (full screen, 4:3, 2.35, etc.). Every once in awhile run the white bar video pattern and you will be fine.

Originally Posted by talltitan 

Samsung 51D550 owner here with what appears to be some bad IR from the Mass Effect 3 multilayer consumable item HUD. The set had a good 600 hrs plus on it before I ever played the game and the IR has been there for over 6 weeks since.
Settings where in game mode with the cell at 18, contrast at 85, brightness 42, 16:9 orbiter on at 4.4.1 setting.
In the six week period that I played the multilayer I couldn't have played any more than 30 hrs tops of the game, with no gaming session lasting longer than three hours. When I first got the set I tried to stress it pretty hard by playing no telling how many hours of Skyrim and a friend and I actually sat and played the hole Gears of War 3 campaign split screen together in one long night just a couple of days after buying the set with the only after effects being the normal IR that fades in a hour or so.
The IR is not really visible at all during normal viewing, the only time I can see it is against solid colored images most predominantly completely white backgrounds.
I have since ran the image swipe that is in the menu section for burn in on the set for probably 24 hrs, Zoyds personal washer for 24 hrs, and ran the break in slides for a good 12 hrs, and blasted it with a complete white screen in dynamic for a good 12 hours and then the normal full screen viewing that I watch plus other games and can't really tell that it has faded much or at all.
Outside of the one issue the set has been really good against retaining any images for no longer than a hour and even that retention was so light you really couldn't find it unless you went up to the set and looked for it.
I really like the set good picture and all but between this heavy IR which I hope will go away and the brightness pops that I had with set when I first got it, which where fixed from the USB update I got from Samsung the set has been little to problematic in my opinion
Any one here had IR like described above that took months to go away? Will unplugging the set when I am at work help?

Originally Posted by melio111 

Well I'm looking at getting a Panasonic GT50. I'm a movie and videogame guy. But I'm pretty confused over this break in period before you really use the TV. I own a lot of Blurays and most have the 2.35:1 aspect ratio.
Now what I gathered here is I need to really limit thhose kinds of movies a lot for the first 100 hours. Why is that? After my first 100 hours can i watch 2.35:1 ratio movies all the time and not worry about the letterbox burn in?

Originally Posted by kehakas 

I have the same question. From everything I've read, on the portion of your screen taken up by black bars, the phosphors aren't firing at all, so they're not aging as fast as the pixels displaying the 2.35:1 movie. After a while, when you display fullscreen content, the content in the areas where the black bars were will look different from the rest of the picture.
My question is, how severe is this problem, specifically on 2012 Panasonics like the ST50? If I get my set and do D-Nice's 100 hours, but then watch a 10-hour Lord of the Rings marathon, will I immediately notice uneven wear of the picture, assuming I'm eagle-eyed?

Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh 

If you do a 10 hour LOTR marathon, yes you definitely will. Watching a two hour movie? Not so much. I've watched a few 2.35:1 BD's on my month old UT50 and haven't noticed any IR or uneven wear.

Originally Posted by jbrady3324 

For this to happen I would think you would need a few thousand hours of difference for uneven wear to show

Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh 

This is true. My 4 year old Panasonic PX80U has no uneven wear and I've watched hundreds of 2.35:1 BD's during that time.

Originally Posted by eagle_2 

Didn't you just answer that question 2 different ways? First you said he definitely will if he does a 10 hour LOTR marathon, then you agreed above that it would take thousands of hours.

Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh 

If you do a 10 hour LOTR marathon, yes you definitely will. Watching a two hour movie? Not so much. I've watched a few 2.35:1 BD's on my month old UT50 and haven't noticed any IR or uneven wear.

Originally Posted by kehakas 

Thanks for the response! I'll do my best to mix in a majority of fullscreen content in the early hours of the TV's lifespan, but I'm not going to worry about it too much, because there's only so much worrying you can do.

Originally Posted by talltitan 

Samsung 51D550 owner here with what appears to be some bad IR from the Mass Effect 3 multilayer consumable item HUD. The set had a good 600 hrs plus on it before I ever played the game and the IR has been there for over 6 weeks since.
Settings where in game mode with the cell at 18, contrast at 85, brightness 42, 16:9 orbiter on at 4.4.1 setting.
In the six week period that I played the multilayer I couldn't have played any more than 30 hrs tops of the game, with no gaming session lasting longer than three hours. When I first got the set I tried to stress it pretty hard by playing no telling how many hours of Skyrim and a friend and I actually sat and played the hole Gears of War 3 campaign split screen together in one long night just a couple of days after buying the set with the only after effects being the normal IR that fades in a hour or so.
The IR is not really visible at all during normal viewing, the only time I can see it is against solid colored images most predominantly completely white backgrounds.
I have since ran the image swipe that is in the menu section for burn in on the set for probably 24 hrs, Zoyds personal washer for 24 hrs, and ran the break in slides for a good 12 hrs, and blasted it with a complete white screen in dynamic for a good 12 hours and then the normal full screen viewing that I watch plus other games and can't really tell that it has faded much or at all.
Outside of the one issue the set has been really good against retaining any images for no longer than a hour and even that retention was so light you really couldn't find it unless you went up to the set and looked for it.
I really like the set good picture and all but between this heavy IR which I hope will go away and the brightness pops that I had with set when I first got it, which where fixed from the USB update I got from Samsung the set has been little to problematic in my opinion
Any one here had IR like described above that took months to go away? Will unplugging the set when I am at work help?

Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh 

Very true. Black bars don't seem to cause much in the way of IR with these years sets. Bright station logos and game HUD's seem to be the worst offenders.

Originally Posted by brody76 

When I watched a movie with black bars, I usually put the washing screen and leave the TV.
It will turn off alone 30 minutes later and erase everything.
Sometimes I even watch 2 movies in a row with black bars, never had an issue.
It usually disappears after the wash screen was turned on for a bit.
It's more about developing the good reflexes.
When you finish playing/watching a movie just throw in the wash screen instead of turning it off right away.