Master Burn-In/IR/Break In Thread Part II: All Posts Here Only - Page 18

I'm running the burn-in DVD on my new Kuro 5010 and I'm seeing banding. If that's not the right term then consider it non-uniform screen. I've also read something about streaks. But it looks more like a band. There are a couple of dark horizontal lines about 3/4" in the center of screen. I'll try to post a picture if I can. Is this acceptable for a Kuro or should this be going back because it's a defect?

Thanks, good to know how they handle these things.
I have a perfect panel so far with no dead or off pixels and a 2 year warranty.

Post a picture.
I'm running the break-in dvd on the 1150. The screen is clean with no banding, streaks, lines or dead/off pixels.
Give it a day or two, some of these things clear up by themselves.
Also, play a dvd movie and watch an HD show and pause them on a bright image to see if these lines are still visible. If they are still there, then you may want to exchange the panel.

Here's the images. Focus on the center of the screen. There is a darker band in the center and a smaller one below it. There are other areas which might be not clear in the pics but more obvious in reality.

I had this problem with a panasonic plasma, but it was vertical, and it was only 1 line. This seems to be a defect in the glass. Just exchange.

I just received my 6010 last monday and am about 100 hours into the Break-in DVD, but also see this effect as well. It isn't something I can see during what little "normal" viewing I've done, but does seem to be similarly placed. I thought at first that since I first noticed it at the display top, that the local dealer (who runs them for a time just to make sure nothing is wrong), might have run the dreaded "black bars" for a bit and was a little bit of IR. Looking at yours though makes me think that this is just a "normal variation", as they've said.

indij, I don't think you will ever see those during regular viewing even if you tried. However, if it bothers you, get it exchanged.

I am getting ready to purchase a 58 inch samsung 650. I am moving into an new house in a few weeks, and to take advantage of BB's 3 year no interest deal I am going to buy it now. Is there anything wrong with setting it up now, and then packing it up and moving it again in a couple weeks, especially if it isnt fully broken in yet? I know this is probably a stupid question I just dont to mess anything up. Thanks.

Moving it is fine, just remember to keep it upright at all time. Never lay a plasma TV flat down, a 15-20 degree tilt the the maximum you should ever go. Laying it flat, even for a short time, might cause damage.

Good idea to get it now and break it in that way you can use it to the max when you get it to its new home.

Thank you for the response. Reading this thread has me scared to look at the thing cross-eyed... The Samsung website says there isnt a break-in period. I hardly ever play games, so do I really just need to make sure I dont watch anything with bars or with stationary graphics, and if I do will turning the "pixel shifter" on keep it safe? Also this may be really dumb but does the tv keep track of how many hours it has been on in the menu somewhere, or do people just keep track how long they have used it on their own? Thanks again.

I tried and I did manage to see it on a couple of occasions on brighter scenes. But you're right, most of the time I don't notice it.

Unless you ABUSE the TV by leaving static images on the screen for HOURS or maybe even DAYS you'll be fine. I played The Bourne Conspiracy on Xbox 360 last night and after playing for almost 2 hours I had a little IR left in the lower right hand corner on a blank black screen from the health/adrenaline meter. I watched TV right after and couldn't see the image at all, after 10 mins of watching TV I could no longer see the IR on the blank black screen either, it may have been gone much quicker than that but I don't know. Also even on a blank black screen I could only see the IR if I was less than a foot away from the TV and really looking at the IR area.

As for the number of hours, I just estimate but you can check in the service menu on Samsung TV's but it will reset all settings to factory default which is why I don't. Some other TV's have the options in the menus, I know many DLP's did, I can't say I know of any plasmas that do for sure.

I have a 50" Panasonic plasma that is fairly new and have been careful with it. I bought a PS3 last weekend and played some Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Less than 2 hours total spread between 3 times playing. I noticed that now there is a faint ghost image (I would assume IR) of the health bar on a black screen. I have been watching some TV and it seems to be faiding very slowly. Does anyone have a break in video I can run on the PS3? I was thinking after I play for a bit I could run it to help even things out and to put more hours on the plasma to make it les of a problem in the future. Thanks

Teddy

Teddy,
You should do the 100hs break in period before gaming. After that you should be ok.

i think you should be able to run any dvd from the ps3, including a homemade break in dvd.

I was thinking of using the break in JPEGS as a slideshow on the PS3. Anyone done this?

or don't worry about it at all. i've played my 360 from day one for over 250 hours and mine's fine.

this should work.

briansemerick,
while i do agree this IR/BI and break in period may be not necessary... it better to be safe than sorry.

honestly i had nothing to loose, so i did it.

if you can, enjoy the tv and forget about IR... it fade away sooner or later.

Just picked up my new 5010 today and am gonna start breaking it in (either by downloading one of those DVD's or just watching full screen non-static image TV at less than 50% brightness/contrast etc) but was wondering, as has been asked before throughout this thread, but never really answered 100%, is there a feature on the 5010 which will tell me how many hours it has been used?

This is of greater interest to me than just for the sake of break in, as the store I bought it from was selling demo models. I insisted on a new one and they said they didnt have any. After much negotiating and checking inventories, they said they found a new one which I bought. So I want to verify that they really DID give me a new one, and not just a cleaned up demo.

Which leads me to my second related question. Assuming there is an "odometer" on these TV's, from the factory are they set at zero? Or do they already have some hours on them from factory testing etc. (much like a new car has usually 15 miles on it when you pick it up)

Thanks and sorry for the somewhat dumb question (My noob-ness is hard to hide...)

The only way to look is to enter the service menu. They are set at 0. I personally would not recommend you enter the service menu though. You hit 1 wrong thing in that menu and you can brick your TV. I have read several cases of this happening.

Hey all, I think I may have experienced burn-in on my TV. I know it isn't the greatest brand, but I bought the 32" vizio plasma because of sized constraints in the bedroom. I ran the break-in DVD for over 100 hours when I first got the set, and for the first 2 weeks I was pretty careful with what I was watching. Unfortunately, the TV still seems to have experienced burn in. The misses likes to fall asleep while watching TV and she doesn't set the sleep timer, So I am assuming that the logo image for soap net was left on for a good 8 hours. It has been a week since I noticed the logo on the screen (black screen), and I have run the image cleaner each day for several hours. I have also ran the break-in DVD for about 6 hours. In addition, I have watched regular TV each day for the past week to no avail. I really thought burn-in was a thing of the past with plasmas, but it was a huge concern on mine with buying one. Anyone have any ideas, or is the image permanently there?

i have some ir on my 60 inch vizio from some 4:3 viewing with black bars that is only noticable on a bright backgroun, have been using pixel protector dvd and it seems to be clearing a bit. would the break in dvd help my cause?

I’d really appreciate your help. I downloaded the iso file and then extracted it. There's an iso image file and a mds file. I can't open the mds file and I don't what it is or what it's for. So I burned the iso to a dvd-r using roxio. Tested it and it seems to work fine. Did I do it right? Will the dvd-r run 24 hours and loop? I'm using an Onkyo 805 HD-DVD player. I don't think it loops but I'll check.

Thanks

Interesting. Ok well now that I have the TV I am even more skeptical that it may not be brand new. The screen looks like it has been cleaned with windex or something (streaky) and one of the mounting screw holes looks scratched as if it has been previously mounted.

So I would like to at least read up on the service menu thingy.
a) do you know how to access the service menu and check this stat?
b) can you link to a thread which discusses this "bricking" issue. (and service menu in general)

Thanks!

I have this same problem. I too just bought a 5010. I am currently running the break-in DVD. I currenlty am into it about 20 hours. I hope as time progresses that it get's better. Should I not bother and exchange it? I noticed it doesn't have any dead/stuck pixels. That's one of the reasons I am hoping that the 'banding' goes away. I haven't watched any regular TV or HDTV. I am waiting for the full 150 hours before I enjoy HDTV.

Add me to the list. I have a 5010 and i have seen it on a all white screen. I do not notice it in regular viewing.

I know this post is a bit outdated, but I just got a great deal on the TH50PZ77U at CCity. I was having a war within my head with LED vrs. Plasma, and the deal was so good, I just went with this plasma.

I was warned by the saleswoman about burn-in with plasma TVs, but she also said that the technology has come a long way and most companies have addressed this. When I got home I read the users manual, and sure enough there are warnings about the burn-in when you leave stagnent images and also the 4:3 mode with the side bars. My question is why do they have this 4:3 mode with most of the non-HD channels use, if I have to now worry about burn-in.... So now I feel I have to police this new plasma TV when the kids watch it and there are side bars in 4:3 mode... What the heck am I doing for this price and me finally taking a big step and getting a plasma HD TV!!!

Has anybody sufferred burn-in with the TH50PZ77U. What can I do to avoid this in terms of set up, I believe the default settings help (light colored side-bars and turn-off if no interaction with the TV), so the likeliness of burn-in doesn't happen, but am I worrying for no reason? How many hours does burn-in happen?

Somebody please explain, and I'm real sorry if I'm on the wrong forum.

-- john

i bought an insignia pdp42 for a 3rd bedroom for basic movie watching. while running the setup menu i am getting very bad IR. its not able to be seen while watching tv or anything but with a pure black screen its HORRIBLE! i just downloaded the break in dvd and im white washing the screen right now. is it normal for IR at the begining and it goes away over time or is it just a fact of cheap plasma tvs?


edit: the white wash pretty much cleared it all out. just a little left but im sure it will go away. also there looks like some uneven lighting or something on the side i will try and get a pic looks odd but again might just be IR because it cant be seen with normal viewing.

hello...maybe someone could help me

i downloaded the break in file...when i burnt it on the dvd......the colors only lasted for a flash...

it cycles through the colors at blazing speed lol

any idea on how the fix this?

thanks

Try this at your own risk!

Enter the Service Menu
Start with the plasma turned OFF
Make sure you point the remote directly at the IR sensor in the tv

Press DISPLAY on the remote (just press, do not hold)
Wait 3 seconds
Press LEFT, UP, LEFT, RIGHT then POWER

If done correctly, the plasma turns on and the INFORMATION page is displayed