Master Burn-In/IR/Break In Thread Part II: All Posts Here Only - Page 22

Originally Posted by Aetherhole

I hate TV station logos. I can understand why they use them, but I still hate them because they are distracting to me... None of our channels are that obvious, though.

Originally Posted by booker21

i think i got BI :-(

how long should i run signal pattern before called BI?

Originally Posted by rwr1776

Uh oh...what Display do you have and what caused the, let's be optimistic for now, IR?

According to my MFR, 40 minutes of whitewash should remove anything, YMMV. So far the longest its taken is 5, but I'd really need to hear your situation to know if it was similar.

Originally Posted by rwr1776

So, here's a question for folks. Take a look at the attached picture.

The Jackasses at Channel 2 want to be sure you remember who is providing live coverage of the local fireworks so were kind enough to include this torch bright logo on their screen.

I was outside going... "Ooooo....ahhhhh" while this thing played inside for about an hour.

Afterwards, I saw my first IR ever. I could see the image of that "2" on both solid black and solid white backgrounds, but not during normal viewing. The image faded gradually over about 5 minutes until it was completely gone.

The question is, how does that fare....average...better...worse than others experiences...

Here's the pic...

Originally Posted by booker21

i have a samsung hp4254. I played MGS4, i can still see the life hud and the lower bottom gun hud.

i left the scrolling signal for around 5hs yesterday, maybe more, while it´s still there, it´s fading away. I will keep using it 3-4hs today and tomorrow, if is IR it should go away by then. if not i guess i got BI.

i game 3-4hs on this set, i did the break in period, 100hs. What it´s funny is i played many games after the break in period, and the only Hud visible is MGS4. I even played and finished Battlefield, which has WHITE Hud and even that faded away.
i´m using really low contrast setting, 65%. while i saw many with 80% or more.

weird.

i didn`t use scrolling feature that much before yesterday, maybe that was my mistake. This is why i want to completely erease any kind of IR. This way from now on, after any long gaming session i´ll leave scrolling feature running for 90 min. But before i need to clear the MGS4 IR(hopefully).

Originally Posted by ArchAngelGabriel

Anyway, I am still working at getting rid of the history channel logo burn-in, IR, whatever the hell you want to call it. Pretty upset, because the History Channel HD only gets about 20% of my viewing, yet that is the only logo that I can see on a completely dark or white background.

Originally Posted by booker21

i´m happy to announce, after 3hs of Signal pattern, today the hud faded away 90% yupi !
It was IR after all.

Originally Posted by KillerSpaz

IR goes away... it's called Image Retention, because it retains it for a short period... Burn-in is what you have...

Originally Posted by 30XS955 User

You'd think with more than half the game being cinematics, MGS4 would burn in the mission briefing screen rather than the HUD.

Originally Posted by EvansLight

Oh I wish i had found this place sooner. Already learned a whole lot more i didn't know about burn in and image retention.

I just got (as in not even 12 hours ago) a Samsung PN50A550 which after way too much research and staring at all the tvs in many a different store, i found was the best for the size i was after and for the price i was hoping to pay. I got it home and of course went right to enjoying HD for the first time. I have had the same 27inch CRT for going on 8 years now, and before that it was an even smaller one, this is a really big upgrade for me.

Anyways, getting side tracked. I knew about IR and BI and knew about some of the tools built in the tv to help fight it. I thought that was all i needed, of course i was wrong. I played Battlefield: Bad Company for about 2 hours with the settings pretty high (oh yea, i was stupid... i guess i hadnt done enough research) and i took a break, and was going to put it on the white screen to make sure there was no IR. And low and behold there was. it went away in under a minute, and now there is no trace of it.

Now to my question after what ended up being a short story. Should i worry about that bit of stupidity i did at the start? Ive already lowered the contrast, and am watching HBO for the rest of the night since theres no logos for the most part and it fills perfectly at 16:9. I was also wondering if i should use that break in DVD i found a link to.

I have read some of the thread, and probably should read more, but right now im half awake and am slowly getting tempted to just take this one back and get an LCD im also looking at that would save me $200 even thought its 4inches smaller. Anyways XD Thanks for any help and advice before hand in case i forget later

Originally Posted by chwisch87

As long as you are mindful of what you are watching or doing, burn-in won't be an issue. I mean after the break in period, you just can't keep a static image on the screen for more than a few hours. Its pretty simple.

Originally Posted by ArchAngelGabriel

I may write a letter to LG and see what their response is.

Originally Posted by ArchAngelGabriel

An update for my situation. I have ran white wash for about 1 hour, RGB/B&W solid colors changing (via fade) every 15 seconds from my PC for about 4 hours and watched the HD Discovery Channel for about 6 hours. Unfortunately, the HISTORY.COM is still slightly visible when I strain for it. Really bothers me to be honest... Like I said, this isn't abuse and I think it is bull **** that the Plasma MFG's can sit there and say that burn-in doesn't exist. In fact, it does, they just rename it to IR and say it is the 'long' type of IR. Pfft, whatever.

I am also guessing that many other people do not see IR because, quite frankly, they don't look for it. I have to be honest, I would not see it either if I didn't know it was there. But that isn't the point, really. The fact is, my screen has already experienced burn-in, when it was broke in properly (contrast set to 45 and brightness set to 45). No abuse here, which makes me somewhat angry when I see people post that PDP burn-in is a non issue.

Originally Posted by Kaju

Hello AVS. This is my first post. I don't have the break in DVD, so I figured I would go about breaking in my plasma in a different way. It should accomplish the task and also allow me to do something I like - listen to music. So, I using the music player on my Xbox360 I turn on the full screen visualizer. It displays a full screen image of varying patterns and colors in HD. I've also turned down the contrast and brightness. Then - I let it run while I listen to some tunes or an audiobook or whatever... Is this a good strategy or am I making some horrible mistake? Thanks!

Originally Posted by Kaju

Hello AVS. This is my first post. I don't have the break in DVD, so I figured I would go about breaking in my plasma in a different way. It should accomplish the task and also allow me to do something I like - listen to music. So, I using the music player on my Xbox360 I turn on the full screen visualizer. It displays a full screen image of varying patterns and colors in HD. I've also turned down the contrast and brightness. Then - I let it run while I listen to some tunes or an audiobook or whatever... Is this a good strategy or am I making some horrible mistake? Thanks!

Originally Posted by Gixxer1

Ok here's a question for you guys.

I have an older DVD player that only displays up to 480P, does the Break-In DVD have to be played back at 720P or higher, do I need an up-converting DVD player?

Thanks for the info!

Originally Posted by ArchAngelGabriel

It looks like you have the same TV as me. I have a 50PG20... I know you have an LG for sure.

Anyway, I am still working at getting rid of the history channel logo burn-in, IR, whatever the hell you want to call it. Pretty upset, because the History Channel HD only gets about 20% of my viewing, yet that is the only logo that I can see on a completely dark or white background.

There is nothing wrong with the TV, either, the problem is these stations keeping on a solid, non transparent logo that gives uneven phospher wear. Basically, once I get this fixed (if I get it fixed) there will be no more History Channel HD until they change their damn logo. It is frustrating because they are one of the few stations that have sold a bold logo that stays on nearly the entire time.

This has been a eye-opener for me. While there is very little real world problems with what I am experiencing, it does bother me to know that I have the image in the screen. If I were to say, watch a dark movie, or a scene that gets all white (flash bang, or something) you would see it. Again, real world scenario isn't serious. But it is still frustrating.

This also isn't just 'IR' as other forms of IR pretty much are gone in seconds. Hell, even when I play super nintendo, Super Mario World for like 2 hours straight (static images all over) the IR clears up fast... But not the History Channel! Nope, that bitch of a logo wants to remain there and go with you wherever you go! Ok, done with my rant...

Edit ** Just wanted to state that I believe station logos are more harmful to your plasma than playing video games. Why? Well, most video games you play and you beat. Ok, so 40 hours broken up over several sessions and then you are done with that game. Since every game has a different place for these static images, you can be relatively sure it won't cause any long term problems. But a station logo! Yes, a station logo will get many more hours depending on your viewing habits. Like to watch iceroad truckers? Or Axemen? Or Universe? Or all the great programs that the history channel has to offer? Well, you will rack up, far far far more than 40 hours and that bold bitch of a logo is going to keep burning away the life of those phosphers. Yep, I strongly believe that bold non-transparent station logos are more harmful that video games on a Plasma TV.