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post #841 of 4218
9/27/08 at 12:00pm
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Originally Posted by tempnexus View Post

Will running the Burn-In images in VIVID from an SD card in my Panasonic 42PZ85U help accelerate the burn-in time?
Also, how should I tweak the Picture settings to accelerate the burn-in? (i.e. Picture, sharpness, brightness etc).

You can accelerate the break-in time by setting contrast to 70% of full but don't use Vivid mode.
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post #842 of 4218
9/27/08 at 8:25pm
Finally just unboxed a Panny TH-46PZ850U that I bought from Best Buy the other week, got it on the stand, and made sure it powered on before my friend and I got some drinks.

After we came back, I turned it back on, adjusted the settings (Studio ref mode, low picture, low brightness, etc.), popped in an SD card with the burn-in images from another thread, and have had it running for about 15 mins so far.

The first thing I noticed (maybe because I was sitting about 2 feet from the TV) was an almost "shimmering" effect to the screen. I assume this goes away after the burn-in and general use.

EDIT: This is my first foray into flat-panels, as the set I upgraded from was a Sony KD-34XBR960.
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post #843 of 4218
9/27/08 at 10:30pm
Is it ok to run the break-in DVD i downloaded from eaprogramming for 24hrs straight for the next 4 days to get to 100hrs right away? Or do i need to turn off my TV for a couple of hours each day to make it rest? My plasma is a Panasonic 50PV80
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post #844 of 4218
9/28/08 at 4:32am
tennberg,
the term is "break in" and not "burn in".
we use "break in" images to during the "break in" period to prevent "burn in".

joms,
yes it's okay to do it for 100 hours continuously. I've done a several shows where the plasmas are turned on for the entire week with no problem. Most big box stores also don't switch off their displays.
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post #845 of 4218
9/28/08 at 5:24am
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Originally Posted by tennberg View Post

The first thing I noticed (maybe because I was sitting about 2 feet from the TV) was an almost "shimmering" effect to the screen. I assume this goes away after the burn-in and general use.

This is normal for Plasma's and is called "dithering". It looks like lots of dots on the screen moving about. Its how the TV achieves more shades of colours but this dithering is mostly apparent on large solid colours.
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post #846 of 4218
9/28/08 at 2:23pm
Thank you for the clarification, David.

One other question: When the plasma was on a solid red image, I noticed what looked like a dead "pixel" - it was completely black. I went to check something online, then came back and it was gone, and has not reappeared.

Should I be concerned, or was this basically a "pixel" that needed to wake up?
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post #847 of 4218
9/28/08 at 3:37pm
it seems like you've experienced "stuck pixel" and somehow it got "shocked" and become active once again.
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post #848 of 4218
9/28/08 at 4:13pm
So, I spoke too soon. The stuck pixel has returned.

My plasma has been running through the burn-in images off an SD card for about 20 hours straight now. Should I just keep going through the burn-in and see if the pixel stays that way through 50, 60, 70 hours? Or should I see about returning the set right now?
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post #849 of 4218
9/28/08 at 4:15pm
you should be able to download another DVD (freeware) with flashing colours that may zap the stuck pixel alive. If the pixel is dead, then there is nothing can be done about it.

IMO, you might as well return your TV because if it's been unstuck and now it's back stuck, chances are it'll keep coming back.
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post #850 of 4218
9/29/08 at 6:42am
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Originally Posted by tennberg View Post

So, I spoke too soon. The stuck pixel has returned.

My plasma has been running through the burn-in images off an SD card for about 20 hours straight now. Should I just keep going through the burn-in and see if the pixel stays that way through 50, 60, 70 hours? Or should I see about returning the set right now?

You should check with who you purchased the TV from. Most retailers will not take back the set for 1 dead pixel. There usually has to be a lot of them. I have heard of some retailers taking them back for just one, but anymore it seems they do not.
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post #851 of 4218
9/29/08 at 7:30am
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Originally Posted by tennberg View Post

So, I spoke too soon. The stuck pixel has returned.

My plasma has been running through the burn-in images off an SD card for about 20 hours straight now. Should I just keep going through the burn-in and see if the pixel stays that way through 50, 60, 70 hours? Or should I see about returning the set right now?

I saw you purchased this from Best Buy. You can return this under the no-hassle 30 policy. Once you get past the 30 day policy dead pixel replacement will be per the manufacturers rules. Often they require that there be several dead/stuck pixels before they will consider refurbing the set. They also take the position of the pixel into account. If it's right in the middle of the screen you'd have a better chance at getting a refurb than if it is in the corner of the screen.

I have a Samsung plasma that arrived with a stuck pixel in the corner of the set. Since it's in the corner and it is only visible against some colors, I decided to live with it since their weren't any other problems with the set.
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post #852 of 4218
9/29/08 at 8:16am
I ran a utility called jscreenfixup that fixes stuck pixels on my new samsung plasma. It came with a stuck pixel so I figured i'd give this program a shot, to my surprise it fixed the stuck pixels and they have never returned to the set.
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post #853 of 4218
9/29/08 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by proudx View Post

I ran a utility called jscreenfixup that fixes stuck pixels on my new samsung plasma. It came with a stuck pixel so I figured i'd give this program a shot, to my surprise it fixed the stuck pixels and they have never returned to the set.

Very interesting!
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post #854 of 4218
9/29/08 at 11:49am
that's the program I'm referring to!
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post #855 of 4218
9/29/08 at 3:30pm
Found it. It's called JScreenFix. They have a downloadable DVD image that I am going to try this evening. I'll report back later.
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post #856 of 4218
9/29/08 at 7:40pm
i am getting a panasonic TH-58PZ800U sometime this week. i talked to panasonic and they "recommend changing the picture mode fom Vivid to standard for the first 100 days or more. they said it will lower the intensity of the tv, and it does not have to work as hard,and the screen will get a bit darker"

where can i get the break in cd?

and anyone else recommend anything else i can do for break in.
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post #857 of 4218
9/30/08 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by chevy01xtreme View Post

i am getting a panasonic TH-58PZ800U sometime this week. i talked to panasonic and they "recommend changing the picture mode fom Vivid to standard for the first 100 days or more. they said it will lower the intensity of the tv, and it does not have to work as hard,and the screen will get a bit darker"

where can i get the break in cd?

and anyone else recommend anything else i can do for break in.

Here is the link for the Break-In CD/DVD: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=583089

It works very well.

The only other thing you can do is lower you're Cell light, Brightness and Contrast to keep the overall picture darker. Display fullscreen for the first 200hrs and avoid static images. A little care will yield a long lasting set.

Steve
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post #858 of 4218
9/30/08 at 9:47am
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Originally Posted by chevy01xtreme View Post

i am getting a panasonic TH-58PZ800U sometime this week. i talked to panasonic and they "recommend changing the picture mode fom Vivid to standard for the first 100 days or more. they said it will lower the intensity of the tv, and it does not have to work as hard,and the screen will get a bit darker"

where can i get the break in cd?

and anyone else recommend anything else i can do for break in.

Yeah, look at the Panny Break-in FAQ
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post #859 of 4218
9/30/08 at 5:57pm
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Originally Posted by Fr. John View Post

Yeah, look at the Panny Break-in FAQ

in ur sig.. thats good for all models?
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post #860 of 4218
9/30/08 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by chevy01xtreme View Post

in ur sig.. thats good for all models?

Yes and yes. The only real difference is that 07' models had zero as the zero point and this years are 50 for the zero point.
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post #861 of 4218
10/2/08 at 10:09am
I haven't been around in ages, but thought I'd follow up on my experiences with burn-in (or lack thereof).

http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthrea...65#post3830465

I'm still using the same display (a Panasonic TH37PWD5UZ) in the same way, and the wear is essentially the same as I described in that four year old post. It's only noticeable to me because I know what to look for, and when to look for it. My family and friends don't notice it unless I pause a very bright screen (say the opening panoramas of the shire in Fellowship of the Rings ) and point out how the edges of the screen are slightly less bright than the center square.

I've never done any sort of "break-in" other than turning the brightness settings down from "torch mode" to something appropriate for my living room. I watch things in OAR (albeit with grey side bars).

It's been a wonderful display for these past five and a half years, and I don't regret anything about it. And back then, these things cost three times what they do now.

Hopefully this tale will be a comfort to someone.
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post #862 of 4218
10/2/08 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by stormsweeper View Post

I haven't been around in ages, but thought I'd follow up on my experiences with burn-in (or lack thereof).

http://avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthrea...65#post3830465

I'm still using the same display (a Panasonic TH37PWD5UZ) in the same way, and the wear is essentially the same as I described in that four year old post. It's only noticeable to me because I know what to look for, and when to look for it. My family and friends don't notice it unless I pause a very bright screen (say the opening panoramas of the shire in Fellowship of the Rings ) and point out how the edges of the screen are slightly less bright than the center square.

I've never done any sort of "break-in" other than turning the brightness settings down from "torch mode" to something appropriate for my living room. I watch things in OAR (albeit with grey side bars).

It's been a wonderful display for these past five and a half years, and I don't regret anything about it. And back then, these things cost three times what they do now.

Hopefully this tale will be a comfort to someone.

Thanks for chiming in, it's appreciated and gives some perspective.
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post #863 of 4218
10/6/08 at 2:18pm
So, I've completed roughly 150 hours of break-in on my Panny TH-46PZ850U using the break-in images on an SD card. What I did notice though is that whenever I was watching regular TV, the picture setting was on "Standard" rather than "Cinema Ref", which is what the setting was for the SD card. I figure as long as the settings were low and it was not on "Vivid", I'm fine.

So, now does it make sense to keep doing this for the next 850 hours until I reach 1000 hours, as I've read elsewhere? Or is it okay to stop breaking-in and start fully enjoying it? Or should I use the SD card occasionally for a bit?

Thanks.
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post #864 of 4218
10/6/08 at 3:27pm
God no, please don't keep doing the break in routine for another 850 hours. Plug in some proper settings and enjoy.

jeff
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post #865 of 4218
10/6/08 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by tennberg View Post

So, now does it make sense to keep doing this for the next 850 hours until I reach 1000 hours, as I've read elsewhere? Or is it okay to stop breaking-in and start fully enjoying it? Or should I use the SD card occasionally for a bit?

Thanks.

You're kidding right? 850-1000 hours is like 1/100th lifespane of a plasma
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post #866 of 4218
10/6/08 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by fatbottom View Post

You're kidding right? 850-1000 hours is like 1/100th lifespane of a plasma

I didn't mean running it non-stop for another 850 hours. I've just read some material elsewhere where they suggested doing *some* break-in over the next 850 hours but not non-stop as it was during the first 150 hours.
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post #867 of 4218
10/6/08 at 5:53pm
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Originally Posted by tennberg View Post

I didn't mean running it non-stop for another 850 hours. I've just read some material elsewhere where they suggested doing *some* break-in over the next 850 hours but not non-stop as it was during the first 150 hours.

You're right, there's an old Panasonic document that discusses precautions/limitations through 1,000 hours. I believe those recommendations are out of date and even when they were new probably represented an overabundance of caution.

FWIW, I broke in my 50PX77U by switching out of Vivid mode to Normal and setting contrast below 50% for the first week. Also avoided non-full screen content but didn't use any break in DVD or pattern. After a week I plugged in the CNet settings, tweaked them, and haven't looked back. Video games, movies, sports, whatever. Zero IR, no burn in, fabulous picture.

jeff
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post #868 of 4218
10/6/08 at 7:53pm
Samsung PN50A450.... is there a menu option to display hours of use?

Thanks for all your help!!!!
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post #869 of 4218
10/7/08 at 9:40pm
guys,

I'm looking at purchasing two Panasonic TH-50PX80U TVs soon.

regarding the burn-in DVD - is it advisable/safe to just run the burn-in software 24/7 for roughly a week, week and a half? is it OK to leave these TVs on for that long w/no break? any other concerns that I should keep in mind during the burn-in phase?

I really appreciate the help you gurus provide us plebes. I'm very excited to get rolling w/this set, but because I'll easily watch 9 hrs. of NFL action every Sunday, I think it's extremely important to cover any bases.

lastly, regarding the use of the screen wipe/scroll feature - let's say I'm watching the games on Sunday. would it be smart to run the screen wipe during the commercial breaks two or three times per game? how long do the wipes take to finish?

thank you.
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post #870 of 4218
10/7/08 at 9:50pm
^ You really don't need a burn-in disc. I have a 42px60u that I bought new two and a half years ago, back when they were going for $2100. All I did is dial back the brightness and contrast to about 50% and avoided most 4:3 images for the first 100 hours. My generation of Panasonic does not have the screen wipe function but I can't say there has ever been an occasion when I would have used it if it was available. Just enjoy your TV.
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