Originally Posted by BuGsArEtAsTy
Huh? Like I said before, maybe that's the case on a very small display, but "better" than DVD in terms of image qualitycan mean a lot of things, but "in the same league" as HD DVD or Blu-ray on a large screen it most definitely isn't.
First off, I find DVD to be quite good on my 110" (@1.5x viewing distance) 720p CIH setup (IN76). I find the difference between DVD and HD to be apparent, but not earth shaking. I would say OTA HD is "in the same league" as HD DVD or Blu-ray. "In the same league" to me means the differences you're talking about are not "major". Or to put it another way, if you consider HD DVD/Blu-ray to be a league, there is quite a range of qualities there, if the difference between another option and HD DVD/Blu-ray is within the variance of quality in HD DVD/Blu-ray then I say they're in the same league.
And even that notwithstanding, the main problem with bootleg HD is the hassle factor, which is absolutely enormous by optical media standards.
Personally I find HD DVD and Blu-ray to be quite a hassle as well. In my Netflix and purchase experience, I've had a number of discs not play for various reasons. Bigger hassle is that there are no good players for either format on the PC. Being unable to place a copy on my media server without resorting to extraordinary measures is a hassle. Firmware updates for my player are a hassle.
Yup. Major PITA, and something that ain't popular with the masses.
Honestly, that's the way I feel about HD in general. Can't record HD, can't play HD without "blessed" hardware, can't rip HD, yada yada yada.
I just don't understand how even geeks can claim that illegal HD downloads are not a hassle. To repost what I said earlier... And by the way, this question from my GF actually was asked, and that first response is actually what I told her.
Because geeks are geeks. We build our own PCs, we build our own HD movie players, PVRs, we configure our own systems, program our own remotes. Downloading something on the internet is nothing compared to all that.
And again, my point was that the inclusion of DivX says a lot about the priorities
of the mass market, that their priorities are convenience and portability over quality. IT's been shown time and time again. I don't think anybody in this thread has said that downloading movies off usenet or the like will kill HD optical. I know I have not.
Originally Posted by BuGsArEtAsTy
Yes you do, but you don't need any of the above (except the proper setup part) to see the superiority of native HD/BD playback.
It amazes me how nit-picky many here are, that they can't seem to acknowledge that (for example) the difference between HD lite and HD DVD/Blu-ray is quite subtle. Sure most of us here can spot it, but most people have no idea, and I know I for one am not bothered by the difference.
And that wasn't a hassle? At least you didn't have to go scouring the torrent sites and usenet to find the movie yourself... only to find that it's in a format that is not compatible with the Xbox 360.
Of course that was a hastle, as someone who's been following things so that I can begin archiving my HD DVDs I'd say it's far more of a hastle
to do that than it is to go find an illegal copy somewhere. But you missed the point, diogen is saying that a 720p conversion of an HD movie is not obviously
different than the original.
I'd actually forgotten what this section of the forum was like, where nobody cares about fair use, connectivity, or anything else so long as it's got the bitrate maxed out and lossless audio.