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post #31 of 203
This is great!

Do you have any suggestion for Onkyo 875 with only front L/R and Center speakers only? I also have an old un-powered subwoofer. Does anyone know how to connect that one?

Thanks
post #32 of 203
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Originally Posted by alioth View Post

This is great!

Do you have any suggestion for Onkyo 875 with only front L/R and Center speakers only? I also have an old un-powered subwoofer. Does anyone know how to connect that one?

Thanks

As far as setting up your 875, either run Audyssey or go into the speaker config and disable the surrounds and surround back speakers by setting the crossovers to None.

The subwoofer forum is probably the best place to ask about the passive subwoofer.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=113
post #33 of 203
Oops- Guilty of fundamental error #5. I was wondering why the Audssey never got through the whole routine. Thanks for the pointers.
post #34 of 203
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Originally Posted by Ringfinger View Post

Just to clear something up in my head, and I know I saw this but I forgot where to find it. If I have component, S-Video, Composite coming into my 605, and I output HDMI, they will be output at what they came in at? Lets just say all were 480p sources, would they output HDMI 480p?

Question 2, 1080i source coming in HDMI to receiver then HDMI out, same deal, 1080I out? What if my TV is only 720p, then what? The TV downscales?

480i from S-Video and Composite will get converted to 480p over HDMI.
480p and 720p via component will get transcoded to HDMI.
Anything higher than 720p on component will be downconverted to 720p over HDMI.
All HDMI inputs get routed to the HDMI output as they are. No conversion will take place. HDMI cannot pass to Component out.

If your TV is only 720p and you feed it 1080i it will downscale.
post #35 of 203
Excellent post , especially on the Subwoofer setting before running Audyssey. I will give it a try tomorrow. Since my old Yamaha sub(with those auto-on/off) did not come on all the time, until the very loud passage.
post #36 of 203
So, the only upconversion is 480i to 480p. No other upconverting occures? What about a VCR connected via composite and output to TV via HDMI?
post #37 of 203
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Originally Posted by Ringfinger View Post

So, the only upconversion is 480i to 480p. No other upconverting occures? What about a VCR connected via composite and output to TV via HDMI?


I think that was just answered for you. A composite input can only handle 480i max.

480i from S-Video and Composite will get converted to 480p over HDMI.
480p and 720p via component will get transcoded to HDMI.
Anything higher than 720p on component will be downconverted to 720p over HDMI.
All HDMI inputs get routed to the HDMI output as they are. No conversion will take place. HDMI cannot pass to Component out.
post #38 of 203
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Originally Posted by Ringfinger View Post

So, the only upconversion is 480i to 480p. No other upconverting occures? What about a VCR connected via composite and output to TV via HDMI?

Just to be pedantic, when a 480i signal is displayed as 480p, the process is not 'upconverting', it is de-interlacing. A video receiver which is worth having handles this process correctly, and the 480p image displayed is indistinguishable from a 480p image from a 480p source.

There is no conversion taking place, either up or down.


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post #39 of 203
One other thing on the subwoofer (although may be in PS3 forum).

I tried about 100 settings on the 805 and could not get the sub to work... read your list and tried them all and then some.

What finally worked: Going from PCM to bitstream on in the PS3 BD menu. I thought it was a 805 thing, turns out it was a PS3 thing. The weird part is everything else was fine except the sub when set to PCM! I don't know the technical reasons why it worked, but it did. Anyhew thought I'd post this in case someone else can't get their sub to work w/PS3 and 805.
post #40 of 203
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Originally Posted by kplex View Post

I've spent a lot of time over the last couple months in the various Onkyo receiver threads, and there are a number of issues that come up over and over again. Here's my list of the 10 most common problems people have with their new Onkyo receivers and how to deal with them. All feedback is welcome.
[*]Neither running Audyssey nor manually configuring your speakers
If you run Audyssey, it will determine which speakers are present and disable the ones not present. So if you have a 5.1 setup and run Audyssey, it will disable the surround back speakers. If you don't run Audyssey, remember to go into the Speaker Config and manually disable any speakers not present in your setup. To manually disable speakers, scroll through the crossover settings on the Speaker Config screen and select the option "None".

If you don't disable unused speakers, you may completely lose channels from the soundtrack you're listening to. You'll also be allowed to select Listening Modes that don't make sense for your speaker system. For instance on a 5.1 system, you should be able to select the PLII listening mode but not the PLIIx listening mode. If your Onkyo allows you to select PLIIx on anything less than a 7.1 system, it's not configured correctly.[/list]

As a person researching new Recievers for my home, I am a bit confused with #10. (I also have no experience with Audyssey) Why is it that when running the Audyssey setup for 5.1 that the Surrounds should be disabled?
post #41 of 203
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Originally Posted by kezug View Post

As a person researching new Recievers for my home, I am a bit confused with #10. (I also have no experience with Audyssey) Why is it that when running the Audyssey setup for 5.1 that the Surrounds should be disabled?

I think you misread that. Audyssey will disable the surround back speakers automatically if they're not present, which is what you want. Not everybody runs Audyssey however. If you don't plan to run Audyssey, you have to remember to do the Speaker Config manually and disable any speakers you don't actually have connected to your system.
post #42 of 203
Kplex, THanks for a job well done Sir! It was much appreciated to say the least.

IN your last paragraph you stated your PLllx should not come on if in 7.1 mode. Or something like that. Could you please explain this paragraph in more detail please. I am only running 5.1 and I believe I made the mistake you stated not to do. As in putting my rears to the side. I know for a fact I have them wired for the back, not the sides.

Thanks Kplex
post #43 of 203
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Originally Posted by slandy View Post

Kplex, THanks for a job well done Sir! It was much appreciated to say the least.

IN your last paragraph you stated your PLllx should not come on if in 7.1 mode. Or something like that. Could you please explain this paragraph in more detail please. I am only running 5.1 and I believe I made the mistake you stated not to do. As in putting my rears to the side. I know for a fact I have them wired for the back, not the sides.

Thanks Kplex

All he is saying there is that in speaker setup, make sure you disable any speakers that are not being used in your system. For example, you are running 5.1. So your back surrounds should NOT be enabled.

He is also saying that PLIIx is ONLY available if you have a 7.1 system. Notice the "x". If you have 5.1 -- PLII is available -- just not PLII"x".
post #44 of 203
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Originally Posted by slandy View Post

Kplex, THanks for a job well done Sir! It was much appreciated to say the least.

IN your last paragraph you stated your PLllx should not come on if in 7.1 mode. Or something like that. Could you please explain this paragraph in more detail please. I am only running 5.1 and I believe I made the mistake you stated not to do. As in putting my rears to the side. I know for a fact I have them wired for the back, not the sides.

Thanks Kplex

Thanks.

With regard to your question, look on the back of your receiver. For a 5.1 system, your side or back speakers should be wired to the SURR SPEAKERS terminals, not the SURR BACK SPEAKERS terminals.

In the Speaker Config menu (Menu 2-2), set Surr Back to None.
post #45 of 203
I want to add my 2¢ that this is a great thread! <50 posts so far and it's done great service to 805 owners!!! Thanks.
post #46 of 203
#1 explains a lot of things. The Onkyo almost hit a home run but in the end the lip sync is still unfixable in my opinion.
post #47 of 203
i think i might have commited #1 crime... i might have hdmi audio out enabled and therefore seeing anything but surround audio on dvd... i ll double chk it once i get home but great post !
post #48 of 203
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Originally Posted by kplex View Post

[*]Not setting Listening Modes for 2 channel sources
This is mostly an issue for your cable TV input. If you don't set a listening mode for 2 channel sources, you'll occasionally hear loud relay clicks when a program goes to a commercial or when changing channels. When that happens while switching to a program or commercial with a 2 channel soundtrack, just press the Surr button or THX button on your remote to select a 5.1 or 7.1 surround mode. Your receiver should remember that Listening Mode and the clicks should go away. For cable boxes that always transmit Dolby Digital, you should only have to do this once for DD 2.0. For DirecTV receivers that can send DD 2.0 and also 2 channel PCM, you'll have to do it a couple times.

This is a related issue that several people here have, at least with the 905

Even after setting the surround mode for various audion encodes, there is a loss of audio for three or four seconds if the source material changes, say from DD 5.1 to DD 2.0, or vice-versa. Audio is constantly clipping. Several owners are now in contact with Onkyo about this issue, so we'll see what happens.

It's not a loud relay click issues, but essentially, the 905 takes WAY too long to ascertain what the audio signal is if there is a change. It's especially annoying when wathcing Sunday NFL games - the game itself and commercials often switch between 5.1 and 2.0 audio....sounds very bad....
post #49 of 203
Awesome post. Luckily i took tons of time to discover most of this on my own.

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Originally Posted by kplex View Post

For DirecTV receivers that can send DD 2.0 and also 2 channel PCM, you'll have to do it a couple times.

Question on the DirecTV receivers setup for a 5.1. What listening mode do you use for the 2 channel PCM?
post #50 of 203
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Originally Posted by Jagged68 View Post

Awesome post. Luckily i took tons of time to discover most of this on my own.



Question on the DirecTV receivers setup for a 5.1. What listening mode do you use for the 2 channel PCM?

I have a Comcast HD DVR that always outputs either DD 2.0 or DD 5.1, but for DD 2.0 I use THX Cinema. That or its 7.1 equivalent would be a good choice for 2 channel PCM as well as PLII(x). Other people like Neo:6 or even All Ch Stereo.
post #51 of 203
One question as to #2 - I have an A35 hooked up via HDMI and I still haven't seen the TrueHD light come on. I used the Matrix as a test disc earlier today and no dice.

What do I need to set on the A35 in order to have TrueHD?
post #52 of 203
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One question as to #2 - I have an A35 hooked up via HDMI and I still haven't seen the TrueHD light come on. I used the Matrix as a test disc earlier today and no dice.

What do I need to set on the A35 in order to have TrueHD?

I'm not an expert on the A35 but I think you need the following:

Digital HDMI Out=Auto
Digital Direct Audio Mode=On
post #53 of 203
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Originally Posted by CoasterGeorge View Post

One question as to #2 - I have an A35 hooked up via HDMI and I still haven't seen the TrueHD light come on. I used the Matrix as a test disc earlier today and no dice.

What do I need to set on the A35 in order to have TrueHD?

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Originally Posted by kplex View Post

I'm not an expert on the A35 but I think you need the following:

Digital HDMI Out=Auto
Digital Direct Audio Mode=On

and you need to select TrueHD in the disc's audio menu... actually, Matrix may default TrueHD, it's been a while since I watched it, but most HD-DVDs you have to pick the DDTHD from the disc's menu...
post #54 of 203
I am posting this on multiple boards so all of the components are represented properly. I have tried every setting, read evey manualy, done everything, but for some reason, things are not the same as they were yesterday. My wife pushed a button and all hell broke loose. Here are the questions:

I have a Onkyo 605, DirectTV H21-200, Panasonic TH-42PE7U.


1. The lip synch is way off. The audio comes out of the receiver speaker after it has appeared on the screen. How do I get them to synch up?

2. I cannot for the life of me enable the Ez Synch. The 605 should synch with the panny. They used to until yesterday. Now, I cannot change the speakers on the ez synch setting on the TV to theatre, it says to check the HDMI connection, which is fine. In other words, I cannot control volume on the 605 with my panny remote. And the bars used to come on the screen when the volume is adjusted. No longer. I have HDMI monitor out, no luck, they disappeared. I have all HDMI from the Directtv to the 605 to the panny.

3. When I turn the tv back on, the 605 comes on, but goes to DVD, not the SAT/Cable setting like it should. Again, this all used to work until yesterday. What the heck happened.

I am sure I have other questions that I forgot, but these will get me going. Please help as I have spent hours trying to fix it. Bottom line, how do I get the volume bars on my panny from the 605, how do I get the 605 and the panny to synch, and how do I adjust the lip synch issue, and how do I get the panny to recognize the home theatre speakers instead on the TV ones?

Please please please help.
post #55 of 203
Hi,

Not sure about the A35; however I own the XA2 and had the same problem... until I used my XA2 remote... look for a button on the A35 remote that says "Audio"... just dumb luck on my end, but after messing with the TRU HD.... I hit this button and the track changed from Dolby Digital to Dolby Tru HD... same movie... Matrix... hopefully this works out for you.

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Originally Posted by CoasterGeorge View Post

One question as to #2 - I have an A35

hooked up via HDMI and I still haven't seen the TrueHD light come on. I used the Matrix as a test disc earlier today and no dice.

What do I need to set on the A35 in order to have TrueHD?
post #56 of 203
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Originally Posted by grubavs View Post

and you need to select TrueHD in the disc's audio menu... actually, Matrix may default TrueHD, it's been a while since I watched it, but most HD-DVDs you have to pick the DDTHD from the disc's menu...

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Originally Posted by met64 View Post

Hi,

Not sure about the A35; however I own the XA2 and had the same problem... until I used my XA2 remote... look for a button on the A35 remote that says "Audio"... just dumb luck on my end, but after messing with the TRU HD.... I hit this button and the track changed from Dolby Digital to Dolby Tru HD... same movie... Matrix... hopefully this works out for you.

Exactly! This is the same as opening the disc's audio menu and selecting DTHD.
post #57 of 203
As others have said, this is a great post.. I'm printing it out and will refer to it when my system arrives (soon, I hope).

I am confused by the whole HDMI issue though. I am getting the 908 system which includes this receiver and Onkyo's SP405 DVD player. I also am getting Comcast HD which has an HDMI port (in addition to composite and optical outs as well).

I had planned on connecting both the DVD and the Comcast box to the receiver via HDMI in and then HDMI out to my Sony HD TV - thinking that going HDMI all the way would be the best. However I will not always want to be listening to audio through the Onkyo receiver, nor will I necessarily even be turning it on every time I want to watch TV.

If I turn HDMI Audio to OFF, I will not hear sound on my TV's speakers, correct ? If I turn it to ON, as per this great post, I am apparently going to have other issues.

I guess my question is what would be the best way to hook up those components so that I am getting the highest quality audio and video both with the the reciever turned on and me listening to it, as well as if I just want to l watch TV using the TV's speakers and not have the Onkyo powered on.

Thanks for any input, Stephan
post #58 of 203
As a follow up, to my prior question, I may have it figured. Is it true that if you have the input source (D*) to the 605 as HDMI and the output to the TV HDMI that the immediate display will not work? The manual for the 605 states that both HDMI and component has to be - - - in and out to show the immediate display. I had my D* box feeding S-Video to the 605 and HDMI out and it worked fine. I think it has to do with the input being HDMI from the D* box.

Quoting the manual "If both of the HDMI video setup and the component video setup are set to ---, the immediate display is output to a device connected to the HDMI OUT. Since the D* box is set to HDMI1, my thought is the 605 volume wont show up on the screen. Make sense?
post #59 of 203
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Originally Posted by StephanSF View Post

As others have said, this is a great post.. I'm printing it out and will refer to it when my system arrives (soon, I hope).

I am confused by the whole HDMI issue though. I am getting the 908 system which includes this receiver and Onkyo's SP405 DVD player. I also am getting Comcast HD which has an HDMI port (in addition to composite and optical outs as well).

I had planned on connecting both the DVD and the Comcast box to the receiver via HDMI in and then HDMI out to my Sony HD TV - thinking that going HDMI all the way would be the best. However I will not always want to be listening to audio through the Onkyo receiver, nor will I necessarily even be turning it on every time I want to watch TV.

If I turn HDMI Audio to OFF, I will not hear sound on my TV's speakers, correct ? If I turn it to ON, as per this great post, I am apparently going to have other issues.

I guess my question is what would be the best way to hook up those components so that I am getting the highest quality audio and video both with the the reciever turned on and me listening to it, as well as if I just want to l watch TV using the TV's speakers and not have the Onkyo powered on.

Thanks for any input, Stephan

There's two ways you can handle this. I split my Comcast cable before it goes into my DVR and send the other half straight to my TV. That configuration has a couple benefits. It allows me to record two programs and watch a third one live, and it also allows me to view programs in native resolution since my Comcast DVR forces me to choose 720p or 1080i.

The other solution is to run HDMI from your Comcast box to your receiver and component and stereo analog connections from your Comcast box to your TV.
post #60 of 203
Hello.
I have a question regarding #5,it reads what to do for 5.1 and 7.1 but I have a 6.1 setup.Do I default to 5.1?,as far as hooking up the speakers?
Thanks in advance
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