Can HD DVD-Audio be the future of the Music Industry? - Page 3

Come on. Who said DD+ is "better"? The audio master's from different performances are most likely to have the biggest quality differences -- that's the point people were trying to make.

With only needing a few still pictures and the disc focused on providing sound there is very good rationale for using a lossless format. If for no other reason than to eliminate the user's fear of audio compression artifacts.

I have Uncommon Mozart in hand. I am able to enjoy it now with the 5.1 core dts. Someday when I upgrade my AVR, I will be able to use lossless 7.1 dts-HD MA when playing it on my XA2. It will be interesting to hear just how subtle or not the difference is.

at least you wouldn't need to go buy an SACD player, everyone will already have the players to run it. it's better than SACD format anyway which sony focused more on making copy safe than anything else, not that bad.

i hope it happens, but as others say the whole MP3 thing and ipods and nobody has time to sit around and listen anymore may make it trickier.

for now i use musicgiants, would rather it not had protection though and that more stuff was beyond hidef, but anyway it's lots better than realmusic downloads or 128bps itunes stuff.
i'm really glad this place opened up.

In what way is the sound any better than SACD? Of course, as there's so little music on either of the HD formats (yet), there's not much to compare.

i would be curious about that as well...

sounds like "sony hating" rather than any actual fact...

To answer the OP's question...not no but HELL no....not gonna happen.

Any real arguments?

I thought the truth was a real argument.

That a good rephrase, but OP question is not a pool. I think Will be match more interesting to know real opinions and have an intelligent conversation when just votes.

You don't have enough time for me to answer the question in any way other than no.

At MOST it COULD become a TEENY TINY niche...but the general public is not remotely interested in hi-def DVD audio and the set-up/equipment required to listen to it at it's fullest potential...face it, the world today is all about XM Radio, Ipods, and listening to music via their computers perhaps...hi-end audio formats many folks were so hoping would concur the world are a thing of the past IMO.

We will never see another disc based "hi-end" audio format go mainstream in my or anyone elses lifetime...not gonna happen.

And for instance for me:it is YES, do you want exchange opinions over then that. It will be very interesting for everybody to know why you so sure.

Dammit! There goes the PS3 forced SACD resurrection I was hoping for.

Because less people care about HD audio than care abotu HD video, if that is possible.

If I can ask you a question.
Do you believe in success of HD DVD (that it will be in every household)?
Becouse if NO I am totally understand your position.

For listening in other places, like the car, you are able to burn a stereo CD from a 5.1 lossless MusicGiants download. Good enough for me -- since I don't have 5.1 speakers in other places than my main upstairs (7.1) and downstairs (5.1) systems.

My comments have absolutely nothing to do with the format war.

Mine too,
Let me rephrase:
Do you believe in success of HD DVD or Blu-ray (that it will be in every household)?
Becouse if you do the rest is my case.

i thought i read somewhere that the way SACD needs to be processed makes it trickier for the HW to do it perfectly and something else. it's been a while since i read it and perhaps other don't agree with the article i read.

I don't understand what you're trying to suggest with this question/comment. Are you trying to imply that if HD DVD ends up in every household, then HD DVD-AUDIO will succeed? How in the world did you come to this conclusion? There are millions of DVD players in households around the world an DVD-Audio isn't a factor. Why would HD DVD-Audio be any different?

the problem with your theory is that those millions of dvd players don't play dvd-a...

Actually, SACD is easier and makes fewer hardware demands for decoding than any of the lossless HD formats.

Re the OP:

NO.

I'm a long time audiophile myself but frankly at this point I'm sick of physical media. I have many hundreds of CDs and it is a royal pain storing them, going through them to get what I want etc. My ipod has spoiled me in that regard and I intend to get something like a SONOS wireless streaming system, burning all my CDs onto an hard drive (uncompressed...of course). And to me the sooner I can kick the physical media out the door the better - the new digital storage systems are just way better ways to interface with my music. I actually listen to more of it.

I do have LPs and a turntable as well. In that case the physical media, while cumbersome, still has a certain amount of old-school charm, which I find CDs lack.

So I think if even old school audiophiles like me are getting sick of physical media - let alone the rest of the world - another physical disc-based audio system isn't going to find a lot of support.

Like people are already mentioning here Lossless 7.1 Audio is essential standard feature of HD DVD spec that was not available on standard DVD. From that point I can see that HD DVD can become the universal format for both Video and Music.

Seems like for most every one DVD-Audio would be enough. From what I've heard a good DVD-A recording can come rpetty close to vinyl for transparency at least for 2 channels.

I'm not really interested in 5 channel music.

I agree - either HD-DVD and/or Blu-Ray is probably the future for high end music listeners. Lesser quality MP3s will rule on the low end at the expense of CDs.

DVD-A/SACD were limited to specialty players while HD-DVD/Blu-Ray is available on a much wider scale. Plus they should hold much more high quality music and video with the larger disc sizes.

well PCM is even easier on hidef discs, but the compressed lossless are not. but the article wasn't referring to amount of processor strain. in soem ways all the various digitla filters needed for DVD-A might require more, but if there they are done properly for sure. something about issues with it's DSD format (apparently now some players first convert it to PCM now to avoid issues). and something baout it havcing less dynamic reserve than some of the other formats (whether you could hear the difference i don't know). something about ti could send rather much ultrasonic to tweeters if not handled well. soemthing aboitu how DSD was primarily chosen for copy protection reasons. i reallty don't remember the details too well unfortuneately.

anyway this was based on a foggy recollection of some stuff read like two years ago, so it's probably not worth much unless i went back and tracked all the stuff down. i don't recall enough to have an intelligent discussion to be honest.

If the majority of players don't play DVD-Audio it's because nobody wanted/needed it. How many players have X/Y scaling? Not many, for the same reason. There are millions of DVD players on this planet. The consumers that have the DVD-Audio feature haven't purchased enough DVD-Audio discs to make it a factor. The consuers who own players that aren't DVD-Audio compatible aren't complaining that they lack this feature, simply because they don't care.