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Something strange is going on with Wii video definition

post #1 of 15
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I connected the new Wii to a BRAVIA SONY HD READY LCD TV, I used the SCART connector, which is an old connection, considering that there is HDMI, and on some games it is even written that they are HDMI. I started to wonder, why they write that it supports HDMI, if there is no HDMI and only SCART?

I tried two games, RE4 and Super Mario Galaxy. Both games look strangely low definition, I even tried to compare them with the old N64 games.

I connected and switched on the old N64 with two games, Super Mario and WaweRacer. Both games that had the best graphics backthere.

As a result of my comparison, the only difference between the old N64 and th eWii, is that Wii has a 16:9 widescreen image that fills all the 16:9 Tv screen. The image is 16:9 and fits the screen perfectly. But the definition looks not great. It is strange, but I'm afraid that the only improvement in graphics resolution is the depth of images in backwiew. As you might remember, the old N64 used to have a lot of fog in the background, becouse of the lack of graphic power.

It looks strange, but somehow it looks that the old N64 has better graphics resolution than the Wii. Despite it uses a lot of fog for covering the missing details in background. I don't know how it is possible. I just know that the new graphic plate for wee was made by ATI. And it doesn't look improved in details definition. I'm afraid that ATI did not a good job.

Anyway, if anybody can compare your Wii with older Nintendo consoles, such as N64 or GameCube. WHen you're done post ypur results. I really believ that there is a problem with the Wii graphic definition. There is a need for comparison with other users.
post #2 of 15
Are you located in Europe? Here in the U.S., the Wii ships with a composite (RCA) connector; never heard of one having an SCART. S-video & component replacement cables are available - that would be the first upgrade to improve picture quality.

Also, the Wii is not a hidef console, so I'm not sure what you mean by "they write that it supports HDMI".

Other things to improve quality: set the output to "480p" instead of "480i" on the Wii settings menu, and use your TV's "Game Mode" if it has one.
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Originally Posted by thebard View Post

Are you located in Europe? Here in the U.S., the Wii ships with a composite (RCA) connector; never heard of one having an SCART. S-video & component replacement cables are available - that would be the first upgrade to improve picture quality.

Also, the Wii is not a hidef console, so I'm not sure what you mean by "they write that it supports HDMI".



My Wii didn't had a SCART inside the box, I had to by the SCART cable separately by muself.

This is exactly what I am talking about, on some games it is written that it supports HDMI, but if the console itself does not ahy does that means?

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Other things to improve quality: set the output to "480p" instead of "480i" on the Wii settings menu, and use your TV's "Game Mode" if it has one.

Never heard about this one. I checked my console and TV set up menu and it does not have such a thing to choose from. Are you sure there are such modes to choose form in Wii?
post #4 of 15
The Wii is optimized for component video connections (480P). Grab yourself some component cables, and change the display to "progressive scan" in the options menu. You should see a big improvement.

Graphically, Mario Galaxy in 480P puts every N64 and Gamecube game to shame.
post #5 of 15
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WHat progressive scan menu exactly are you talking about? The only menu avaiable on Wii is that has to do with the TV screen is the choice between 4:3 and 16:9 tv screen. I never saw no other settings avaiable on Wii.
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post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici View Post

This is exactly what I am talking about, on some games it is written that it supports HDMI, but if the console itself does not ahy does that means?

Where the heck is this written? Games might be listed as supporting Dolby Pro-Logic II, or supporting 1-4 players, but "HDMI"? The Wii doesn't have digital video output, doesn't have digital audio output, and is basically a 1990 eras console in terms of output formats. There is no HDMI connection on any Wii, for any region.
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici View Post

I connected the new Wii to a BRAVIA SONY HD READY LCD TV, I used the SCART connector, which is an old connection, considering that there is HDMI, and on some games it is even written that they are HDMI. I started to wonder, why they write that it supports HDMI, if there is no HDMI and only SCART?

I tried two games, RE4 and Super Mario Galaxy. Both games look strangely low definition, I even tried to compare them with the old N64 games.

I connected and switched on the old N64 with two games, Super Mario and WaweRacer. Both games that had the best graphics backthere.

As a result of my comparison, the only difference between the old N64 and th eWii, is that Wii has a 16:9 widescreen image that fills all the 16:9 Tv screen. The image is 16:9 and fits the screen perfectly. But the definition looks not great. It is strange, but I'm afraid that the only improvement in graphics resolution is the depth of images in backwiew. As you might remember, the old N64 used to have a lot of fog in the background, becouse of the lack of graphic power.

It looks strange, but somehow it looks that the old N64 has better graphics resolution than the Wii. Despite it uses a lot of fog for covering the missing details in background. I don't know how it is possible. I just know that the new graphic plate for wee was made by ATI. And it doesn't look improved in details definition. I'm afraid that ATI did not a good job.

Anyway, if anybody can compare your Wii with older Nintendo consoles, such as N64 or GameCube. WHen you're done post ypur results. I really believ that there is a problem with the Wii graphic definition. There is a need for comparison with other users.

I don't mean to be rude, but have you looked at Mario 64 recently? The blocky Mario in that game doesn't even compare to the Mario in Mario Galaxy.

The only thing that bugs me sometimes with Wii is that it can get a bad case of the "jaggies" sometimes. If it did better anti-aliasing, it's graphical capabilities would be questioned far less than they are now.

By the way, Mario and WaveRace were launch games for the N64. The graphics got better from there. Look at Star Wars Rogue Squadron as an example.
post #9 of 15
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By the way, Mario and WaveRace were launch games for the N64. The graphics got better from there. Look at Star Wars Rogue Squadron as an example.

Wasnt Star Wars a GC game?
post #10 of 15
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Wasnt Star Wars a GC game?

No the first Rogue Squadron was an N64 game.
post #11 of 15
If memory serves, SCART is essentially the same thing as composite and analog audio all built into one cable. Moving over to component video should make your Wii look signifigantly nicer.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by darklordjames View Post

If memory serves, SCART is essentially the same thing as composite and analog audio all built into one cable. Moving over to component video should make your Wii look signifigantly nicer.

SCART can carry Composite, S-Video, RGB (equivalent to component in quality), and Audio, plus control signals to tell the TV what widescreen mode to use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scart
post #13 of 15
Judging by the OP's responses (and his other threads in other forums), he needs to spend some time with all of his consoles' manuals, settings menus, his display's manuals, and its settings menus. He had similar complaints about his PS3 and its "poor resolution."
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by confidenceman View Post

Judging by the OP's responses (and his other threads in other forums), he needs to spend some time with all of his consoles' manuals, settings menus, his display's manuals, and its settings menus. He had similar complaints about his PS3 and its "poor resolution."

My favorite was the surprise upon discovering the SIXAXIS's lack of rumble
post #15 of 15
lol I have to agree. Veni's been a pretty intersting case here.
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