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post #121 of 1625
Welcome to Page 5


I wish I had that curse....I seem to start all kinds of stuff, or as my wife says buy stuff with the intent of using at some point

Looking great. I say we make a bet- I bet I have my drywalll hung this weekend to your ???????? A good side bet always gets me going!


Cheers Jeff
post #122 of 1625
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I wish I had that curse....I seem to start all kinds of stuff, or as my wife says buy stuff with the intent of using at some point

Looking great. I say we make a bet- I bet I have my drywalll hung this weekend to your ???????? A good side bet always gets me going!

Trust me, it's a curse. It does have a good output, but these types of things keep me up a night.

I'd love to play the game with you this weekend, but I'm actually going to take some time off this weekend and spend some quality time with the family. No work in the basement on Saturday or Sunday!

CJ
post #123 of 1625
Sounds like you need to take some time off. Just don't fry out. I'm planning on doing no more than four hours of work (assuming I get my wife to pitch in for an hour or two). Slooooowww and steady.
post #124 of 1625
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I'd love to play the game with you this weekend, but I'm actually going to take some time off this weekend and spend some quality time with the family. No work in the basement on Saturday or Sunday!

CJ

Since you will not be in the basement this weekend, you might as well spend some time in front of your computer and update this thread.

Just subscribed and good work so far. Looking forward to that update this weekend!!

Compfool
Adam
post #125 of 1625
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OK, took last weekend off. Visited the Crayola factory in Easton, PA one day and Hershey Park the second. It was great to introduce my 12 and 10 year old sons to real roller coasters. We had a blast and rode all of the large coasters and quite a few of the smaller rides.

Could not have wished for a better Father's day!

I'm spending most of this coming Sunday in the basement. My goal is to get some photos up before then.

CJ
post #126 of 1625
Good for you. I have my wife roped in to help install a couple of doors this weekend, otherwise I'm doing much of nothing. First inspection will be scheduled next week.
post #127 of 1625
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OK, took last weekend off. Visited the Crayola factory in Easton, PA one day and Hershey Park the second. It was great to introduce my 12 and 10 year old sons to real roller coasters. We had a blast and rode all of the large coasters and quite a few of the smaller rides.

Could not have wished for a better Father's day!

I'm spending most of this coming Sunday in the basement. My goal is to get some photos up before then.

CJ

Man I love rollercoasters. I live 5 minutes away from Paramount's Carowinds in Charlotte and go every chance I get just to ride coasters. My daughter is only 5 but she rode her first coaster last Tuesday and loved it. Going to hit King's Dominion next weekend I hope and hopefully heading to Cedar Point next summer. They have a coaster called the Top Thrill Dragster the shoots you out at 120mph and up 405 feet. Freaking fun too!!! Rode it last year about 10 times in 1 day.
post #128 of 1625
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They have a coaster called the Top Thrill Dragster the shoots you out at 120mph and up 405 feet. Freaking fun too!!! Rode it last year about 10 times in 1 day.

That's INSANE. Hershey Park had a coaster called Storm Chaser that you loaded up into, then it pulled slowly onto the track a good bit away from the loading station. You were facing a loop directly ahead of you about 100 yards away. A voice narration came on saying " Welcome to the Storm Chaser. To best experience the raw horsepower, please keep your hands inside the car and your head against the headrest. Now, hold onto the black handles and prepare for the experience. We'll go in three, two..." Then off we went. The ride goes from zero to 72 MPH in 2.2 seconds, then directly into an inverted loop. It was intense and by far the most interesting ride in the park. Very cool. When my wife got off, it took her about 5 minutes for her legs to stop shaking. My 10 year old and I got right back on and did it again!

We're definately into finding great coasters across the area so we can try them out.

Back to the theater stuff.

CJ
post #129 of 1625
It was scary enough some woman pissed herself LOL She was very embarrassed to say the least. You can get within about 25 feet of the track and from there you can feel the wind coming off of it. It launches using some sort of linear induction system and when it goes all the power going in sounds like some sort of studio sound effect with a very deep descending note like your warp drive just powered down. It is pretty freaking cool to watch. It slides out of the covered area and stops about 50 feet away. Then you see the linear motors pop up between the tracks so you know you are going and then everyone who is smiling suddenly changes expression to sheer terror, especially the folks that are not aware of it ready to launch.
post #130 of 1625
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Sandusky looks AWESOME.

Going to add it to the list of Must Do's!

Thanks for the tip. You sure you're not working for the Loganiator? This will definately derail the build if we do it this year...

;-)
post #131 of 1625
That's OK, I don't mind talking about amusement parks and roller coasters. Go ahead, talk AAAAALLLLLL you want.

I spent two summers working in Live Shows at Kings Dominion. Not to give away my age or anything, but it was the first two years they were open and I was in college. We used to get 90 minutes between shows for dinner and we rode the Rebel Yell EVERY DAY. The first year, I was in the clown band (laugh all you want but it paid for a year of school) and when they were filming commercials we BEGGED to have our picture on the Rebel Yell, in costume, WITH instruments, coming down the hill. It would have worked out that we could put one guy in each seat, strap the bass drum to the next to last seat and the bass drummer in the last seat. Those BA@#$@#S didn't think it would be safe. What did they know? WE were in COLLEGE. WE knew what is safe.

As it turned out, They filmed us, well, clowning around. I had a lot of friends tell me they saw me on TV, but I never saw that commercial myself. I had my 15 minutes of fame and missed it.

So,

Riding the Rebel Yell the first time...COOL.
Riding the Rebel Yell drunk..REALLY COOL.
Riding the Rebel Yell with a hangover...PRICELESS.


Just be prepared at Cedar Point....there's only one way in and one way out. The line of traffic can be pretty long!
post #132 of 1625
/pokes around for progress
post #133 of 1625
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/pokes around for progress

LOL. Just sat down to begin the post. Had to reread my last two pages to see where I left off.

Also had to get some disks packaged up to send out.

I'll email you the files for the labels.

CJ
post #134 of 1625
Ahhh. That's the sort of progress I'm talking about!! So enough about talking about me...what do you think of me?
post #135 of 1625
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What's the Avatar of? Looks like some sort of guy from a Buggs Bunny Cartoon.

Email sent to your work address...

CJ
post #136 of 1625
It's Asterix from a pretty popular European comic book series.

I'll check my email now...
post #137 of 1625
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The weekend came around and we decided to get some more drywall hung. We were insulating the walls as we went along in an effort to reduce exposure to loose fibers. I'm not sure it worked out too well, but I don't think that I would hang insulation in the entire basement then hang sheetrock. The builders do it this way, but we chose not to. This weekend was the bar area and the hallway leading to the theater, bathroom, and equipment room. We finished the ceiling behind the bar as well as the back wall and the bar side wall.




We used a single layer of 5/8" drywall on the long wall (where the bar joins the wall). The theater is on the other side of this wall, so we're adding a bit more mass on the outside.


We finished hanging 13" x 12' drywall pieces on the bar side of ceiling beside the soffit. We also finished up drywalling the soffit. These pieces were hard to hang without breaking (they were not too wide).



This is the area behind the bar. We will be installing base cabinets and countertop across this entire wall (outined in blue tabe). A sink will also be installed in the counter. Under the sink we'll have a dishwasher and a bar fridge. We wired it for four outlets - two high and two low. The high ones will be in the wall above the counter...the low ones will be inside the cabinets. We also added three 4" cans above the sink.

I sure wish that I had used 54" wide drywall. Those thin pieces next to the floor were hard to cut and hang without breaking.


CJ
post #138 of 1625
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The following day, we decided to continue around the perimeter of the room and start on the marquis area and hallway leading to the theater and equipment room. Also spent some time cleaning and removing the trash. Drywall dust gets everywhere!

Again...insulation first, then drywall. We spent quite a bit of time insulating around the perimeter of the theater (bar side, marquis area, and hallway). We used R-30 and really loaded the joist cavities. Hopefully no sound will escape.

This is the left side of the hall entry. The hallway leads back to the theater (on the left), the bathroom (on the right), and the equipment room (straight back).


Hallway to the equipment room.


Another shot of the entry way. The area between the angles above the entry will house a lighted marquis that spans the space. The cutout on the left will be for a ticket booth (similar to what Mark [BritinVA] did). The cutout on the right will house a shelf or two to hold NOW SHOWING DVD or something similar. I'm thinking about doing a lighted marquis entry with bare bulbs (similar to what BigMouthInDC did behind his bar) under the marquis. Have to remember to run electrical to all of these...



Hallway looking back.



Hallway looking towards the entry. The drop is there to go under a beam (where the bare bulb marquis will be).


CJ
post #139 of 1625
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Not much got done today. Took some time after work to hang drywall on the soffit over the bar. Sure is starting to take shape!



The soffit was only built to be 7 inches tall so as not to cover the window from any part of the basement. I'm going to hang 5 pendents over the bar.




I was so anal about the soffit and bar edges matching that I used a plumb bob when I built the soffit to make certain that the overhang of the bar and the drywalled edge of the soffit were in line. I'm happy to report that the alignment was maintained!

Spent the rest of the evening cleaning up the mess that I made.

CJ
post #140 of 1625
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We took a weekend off to go on a Scout camping trip with my oldest. My wife used the weekend to prepare for the Cub Scout Blue and Gold banquet held the following Monday night.

On the following Saturday, we began to tape and mud the basement. I had a few helpers that could not wait to get busy!











Notice how the mudding only goes up about 5 feet! The boys actually did a rather good job and they had fun too!

Mom and Dad worked to pull down the soffit in the theater and rebuild it for the second time (reasons are covered in the following thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=992661 ). We pulled down the soffit to adjust the dimensions and make it more balanced. It was surely hard to convince the wife that the second soffit building session was a good idea. When we were finished, she agreed that it looked much better. Little did we know that we'd be rebuilding it again in the future.

CJ
post #141 of 1625
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Work continued on rebuilding the soffits in the theater and hanging drywall. On 3/1, we worked to finish framing the new soffits in the theater. We also pulled out the rigid HVAC ducts that we installed earlier in the build. These were replaced with flex ducting. The hope is that this flex ducting would reduce the chance of sound transmission to the living room and dining room above the theater. We also insulated the space. Teh ceiling was insulated with R-30 in the joist cavaties. The walls in the theater were insulated with R-38 on the bottom, and R-30 above. The R-38 filled the space between the foundation and the studs. We used 48" batts because there would be really easy to work with. We also had a waste water pipe traverse the back of the theater that required cutting of the insulation.


Bulk insulation ready to be installed. I get itchy just looking at this pile.


Not the new HVAC flex lines. This stuff is wonderful to work with. It took longer to pull the rigid ducting out than it did to install the new ducts.



Stuffed the soffits full of insulation!



Insulating the back wall of the theater.


The wife and I were in our Tyvec suits for the entire day. It did take her some time to stop itching. I hope she's not still mad at me for this

CJ
post #142 of 1625
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In addition to rebuilding the soffits, insulating them and starting to insulate the walls of the theater, we installed the breakers in the panel and did a little drywall work.


Nine new breakers sitting in the panel. The top 9 are new. We have room for one more circuit (future expansion?).


Drywall in the workroom. It's hard to see because the room is small and there's a server rack in the way. Had to unbolt the rack from the floor and move it to the middle of the room so that we could hang the drywall.


Back wall of the workroom (on the right). The area with all of the electrical boxes will be behind the rack.


We also worked to mud the screws in the higher areas of the rest of the basement. Got about 1/2 of the basement done (first coat).




Overall, it was a very productive weekend. Feels good to make so much visible progress.

CJ
post #143 of 1625
Excellent! Great pics. Looks like you may (MAY, I say) be the first to Loganate the Loganator! Guess I'll have to get busy or throw the evil eye on you.

Bar is area is looking really nice. Wish I had that much space.

I hate to say anything, and it's too late now, but I believe the recommendations are that anything over R19 in the ceiling is diminishing returns and that stuffing it full may actually be counterproductive. Do you have really deep joists? It'll be interesting to know the results.

So, don't go back and pull out any insualtion or anything. That would, you know, slow you down. Not that I have any interest in slowing you down or anything. I'm just saying.

Keep up the good work!
post #144 of 1625
Finally some proven progress CJ. Well done. Watching you drywall sooo convinces me to hire this out. I'll install the theater stuff. They can do the rest.
post #145 of 1625
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Finally some proven progress CJ. Well done. Watching you drywall sooo convinces me to hire this out. I'll install the theater stuff. They can do the rest.


Thanks, Michael. I'm making the drywall finishing out to be worse than it really is. It's just so mind numbing that I can't get excited to go down there and work on it.

I'm not discounting the skill that is involved in doing it right. I guess I'm a little apprehensive about my ability to do it to my standard.

Time to chuck that feeling in the round bin and get moving.

CJ
post #146 of 1625
I love the fact that you are taping it yourself. Good on ya mate. I paid to have the plumbing done, drywall brought into the basement, and to have the drywall taped and sanded. Good luck my man and let me know how it goes.

Andy
post #147 of 1625
CJ

Awesome progress. Getting help from mom and the boys is a big bonus keep on grinding the hump is with in sight
post #148 of 1625
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I love the fact that you are taping it yourself. Good on ya mate. I paid to have the plumbing done, drywall brought into the basement, and to have the drywall taped and sanded. Good luck my man and let me know how it goes.

Andy

WOW that sounds exactly what I did in my last homes basement finish. Every penny was worth it the Drywall finishers I hired did it moonlight and were done a less than a week>>> I am sure it would have taken me months and it would have looked awful. It is all about the tools AND experience for mudding.

Looking Great man keep the steam up!
post #149 of 1625
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In the first part of March, I decided to hire Bryan Bape to help with the acoustical design. Bryan runs a company called Sensible Sound Solutions in the St. Louis area that does acoustical designs and consulting among other tings that I've missed as well). Quite a few of the folks on this forum have secured the services of a designer to complete their room design. I chose Bryan.

I corresponded with Bryan via email and sent him some information about my build, and he called nearly immediately. Bryan was concerned that I was so far along and that I needed to understand the ramifications of some of the decisions that I had made. These included:

1. Placing the projector against the back wall - 23 feet away from the 140" screen. This would require a higher end projector to handle this image. He walked me through options that will save a significant amount of money.
2. Building the soffits before the walls were built. I wanted to have lights in the soffits, and he walked me through the pros and cons of my approach.
3. Overall orientation of the room. Bryan was concerned that the back corner of my room would not accommodate 8 chairs as I had in the initial design. He was also concerned about the reflections from my double doors and the pole that I'll have behind the screen wall (affecting speaker placement).
4. Location of the false screen wall.

Overall, it was an eye opener for me. I had asked Bryan to give me the straight poop as he saw it...I needed to know where I was introducing issues into my build that would compromise the acoustics and overall performance of the room. I'd then be in a position to determine whether I wanted to make the change or introduce the compromise to the project.

After an hour long phone call, I was quite confident that Bryan was the guy I needed on the project. We corresponded a bit more, and I completed the questionnaire that he sent along complete with photos and measurements. He completed the room layout and started me on the path to a better room.

I can only say that I wish I had brought a designer into the picture sooner. Some of the work that follows are, shall we say - "do-overs".



CJ
post #150 of 1625
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After a few Cub and Boy Scout weekend camping trips, and after many more consultations with Bryan, we were ready to start back at the build.

We were back in the theater, pulling down those soffits for a second time. For those keeping score, this is the second time I've pulled down the soffits in the room (see this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=992661 ). We decided to drywall the entire room, THEN install the soffits...something that I've seen many of you do in your builds. This will allow me to have a sound-controlled envelope without having to worry about perforations in the envelope due to lights, etc.

The wife was not pleased. This would be her second time wondering why we're doing this...

The complicating factor here was that the room had been insulated...making it much more of a challenge. I loathe fiberglass insulation fibers!

The soffit around the front of the room would stay. This was built the minimum size needed to enclose the HVAC and the beam that runs through the front of the room (where the screen will be). We did need to disconnect it from the side soffits. Along the way, we also rebuilt a bit of the sides of the front soffit to accommodate an air duct. Wel also decided to reroute the air duct that we located directly above the screen. It will now be positioned in the soffit on the right hand side.







I hope this is the only major do-over that I'll have.

CJ
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