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post #241 of 1625
Hi,

Just wondering if you put in a preslope under your shower pan liner? I've been doing a lot of research into shower construction etc... lately on johnbridge.com and a preslope is essential to prevent sitting water.

Now's the time to fix it if you have to.

Dan
post #242 of 1625
I meant to mention this too and it slipped my mind. I've been watching Holmes on Homes lately (good show) and they use the products your suggesting advertguy2. Some of the jobs they come in to fix are unbelievably scary, but when they finish it's equally unbelievable with how nice it turns out.

CJ you wanna make sure the water slopes to the drain in all directions, the preformed kits are pretty nice. You can add this kit over the backer board.
http://www.schluter.com/8_4_kerdi_shower_kit.aspx
post #243 of 1625
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Originally Posted by Cathan View Post

CJ - Just getting caught up on what I've missed while I was away at the beach and I'm thrilled to see that your thread is finally current. It also depressed like hell knowing just how much more drywall work needs to be done in my basement before I get to the same point that you're at. Good thing I'm hiring out a chunk of it.

Hope you had fun at the beach. We had a wonderful time. I was in the basement thinking about what's next last night and can see light at the end of the tunnel. I think the major stuff left is:

Second coat of primer in the main part of the basement
Primer the equipment room
Paint the main part of the basement
Tile the shower walls and floor
Paint bathroom
Install fixtures in the bath (vanity, toilet, sink, lighting, etc).
Fully connect electrical devices for final inspection
Pass Final inspection
Build riser and stage
Install flooring in the equipment room
Install doors throughout the basement
Wall treatments in the theater
Trim throughout the basement
Final lighting in the entire basement (trim rigns, sconces, bar lights)
Install cabinets for the bar
Build bar top and front
Install tile at entryways and bar area
Have carpet installed throughout
Electronics!

CJ
post #244 of 1625
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Originally Posted by advertguy2 View Post

Hi,

Just wondering if you put in a preslope under your shower pan liner? I've been doing a lot of research into shower construction etc... lately on johnbridge.com and a preslope is essential to prevent sitting water.

Now's the time to fix it if you have to.

Dan

I didn't use it. I got turned on to Holmes on Homes from someone on this forum. They use the Ditra and the Schulter Kerdi system for shower pans. http://www.schluter.com/143.aspx

I looked into the kits for this and for my shower, the kit was almost $600. I wound up building the shower pan using 40 mil liner and mortar. Getting the slope right was a bear, but I think I got it done. We're looking to begin tile on the walls this week.

Thanks for the tip in any event.

CJ
post #245 of 1625
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Originally Posted by oman321 View Post

I meant to mention this too and it slipped my mind. I've been watching Holmes on Homes lately (good show) and they use the products your suggesting advertguy2. Some of the jobs they come in to fix are unbelievably scary, but when they finish it's equally unbelievable with how nice it turns out.

CJ you wanna make sure the water slopes to the drain in all directions, the preformed kits are pretty nice. You can add this kit over the backer board.
http://www.schluter.com/8_4_kerdi_shower_kit.aspx

You are both right. I looked at these and wound up bulding it myself. I cut a few 1"x2" boards with the required slope to use for screed rods. I think I got this right, but it was not easy.

CJ
post #246 of 1625
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Originally Posted by carboranadum View Post


You can always sand the spots down that you aren't happy with and touch them up... Of course, that really puts the items in perspective and they tend to not look so bad, huh?

CJ

My issue was didn't not notice until painting finished and lights up......then hit the issue with Red paint where difficult to touch then up without it being noticeable.
post #247 of 1625
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The green glue sticks very well! I'll pick up a can ot the Goof Off stuff when I see it next.

CJ

We seem to manage to keep tracking small bits of stickness into other parts of the house. I'm finding dark sticky spots on the carpeted stairs going to the second floor. I've used Oxy Clean and green colored citrus-based cleaner (Green something or another) to remove it and it seems to do the trick.
post #248 of 1625
Hi CJ,

I wasn't talking about the Kerdi system (although thats what
I'm using in my ensuite remodel). What I'm talking about is a sloped layer of mortar below your vinyl/rubber liner. There is an additional layer of mortar that goes on top of the liner to which you set the tiles on. Apparently the preslope is in the code but nobody enforces/checks it. Check out johnbridge, they have a section in their library about shower construction. I would suggest checking them out before you go ahead and tile.

Not trying to tell you what to do or be pushy. Just want you to be informed.
post #249 of 1625
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Advertguy:

Thanks for the pointer. I spent a few moments browsing the site and it looks really familiar...I think I have been there before. When I was researching how to do this, I think I may have dropped in and read up. I also picked up a book from HD that detailed this pretty well. I built a sloped bed of mortar ad let it dry. I then layed the liner down and stapled it to the studs near the top. I then installed the drain and placed pea gravel around the base of the drain to allow water to drain into the weep holes. After that, I installed a second sloped bed of mortar, leaving enough room for the tile to lay flush with the drain.

I think I covered everything... Thank you for the help. If I missed something, please let me know.

CJ
post #250 of 1625
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cathan View Post

We seem to manage to keep tracking small bits of stickness into other parts of the house. I'm finding dark sticky spots on the carpeted stairs going to the second floor. I've used Oxy Clean and green colored citrus-based cleaner (Green something or another) to remove it and it seems to do the trick.

I got lucky and didn't have that problem. I'd hate to get GG all over the house!

I love your new tag line in your siggy. Made me chuckle.

CJ
post #251 of 1625
I didn't realize you did the first layer of mortar beneath the liner. Thats the part I thought you missed. It all sounds fine then. Carry on...
post #252 of 1625
GREAT progress CJ! Glad to see the updated pics. Wish I was THAT motivated, but well, you know.
post #253 of 1625
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Originally Posted by carboranadum View Post

Hope you had fun at the beach. We had a wonderful time. I was in the basement thinking about what's next last night and can see light at the end of the tunnel. I think the major stuff left is:

Second coat of primer in the main part of the basement
Primer the equipment room
Paint the main part of the basement
Tile the shower walls and floor
Paint bathroom
Install fixtures in the bath (vanity, toilet, sink, lighting, etc).
Fully connect electrical devices for final inspection
Pass Final inspection
Build riser and stage
Install flooring in the equipment room
Install doors throughout the basement
Wall treatments in the theater
Trim throughout the basement
Final lighting in the entire basement (trim rigns, sconces, bar lights)
Install cabinets for the bar
Build bar top and front
Install tile at entryways and bar area
Have carpet installed throughout
Electronics!

CJ


Jesus. Sounds like lots still eh? (based on what I'm going through).


All the best going forward with the rest of things. I'll be watching!


Going back to the rest of the thread to check out the progress pics.
post #254 of 1625
Damn, nice work CJ!!
post #255 of 1625
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Originally Posted by BlaXXXima View Post

Damn, nice work CJ!!

Thank you! There is a lot left to do, but I think the biggest part now lies behind us instead of in front of us. I'm shooting to have primer AND final paint in the main part of the basement this weekend as well as get a good start on tiling the shower.

This is the last weekend that I have free for a few weeks, so I'm going to try to make the most of it.

CJ
post #256 of 1625
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We worked quite a bit on the Labor Day weekend. I took Friday off to make progress in the theater. We spent most of the day on Friday working the final spots of drywall that needed a bit of touch up. The few hours wound up becoming a half day. The final items were touched up and we were happy that the drywall was as good as we desired. The next morning we were off to the store to pick up supplies.

The first item that we picked up was a paint sprayer. I really had a hard time deciding between two units. I wound up picking up a Paint Crew sprayer by Wagner.



This was found at Lowe's for $189. The next step up was a unit that was more contractor-oriented and cost $299. It did not have a hopper, but all of the other parts were the same (same spray head, hose, etc.). When I got to the register, I found that the unit had a $50 rebate! I picked up 15 gallons of KILZ 2 primer, some drop cloths, and went back to work.

We started painting in the walls of the theater. These will be covered with fabric so it was a perfect place to practice and gain experience. Our goal is to finish the final inspections before we begin the wall treatments, so we'll need to primer the entire basement in order to pass inspection.

The sprayer was easy to use and really worked well. Saturday we finished spraying two coats of primer in the theater and the bathroom.

We took Sunday off and painted one coat of primer on the walls and ceiling of the main part of the basement. Here are some photos:

Back of the theater seating area:


screen wall:


Entry looking backward:


Shower:


Other end of the bathroom:


First coat of primer on the main part of the basement:




We hope to finish spraying the primer this weekend and get some paint on the walls.

CJ
post #257 of 1625
How do you like the sprayer? Is clean up easy, does it spray on well? It really starts to come together when the paint starts flying...
post #258 of 1625
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Originally Posted by Chiahead View Post

How do you like the sprayer? Is clean up easy, does it spray on well? It really starts to come together when the paint starts flying...

x2

Is spraying really that much faster than using a roller or even a power roller?
post #259 of 1625
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Originally Posted by Chiahead View Post

How do you like the sprayer? Is clean up easy, does it spray on well? It really starts to come together when the paint starts flying...

I do like the sprayer. It is a bit difficult to clean up, but I think that's common in paint sprayers. If you thin the paint properly, it sprays wonderfully. Nice and even. You'll need to play around a bit to find the right mix.

I did have my wife backroll the second coat with an 18" roller to make sure it was super smooth. That's how many of the paint crews do it and I thought "what the heck".

If I had it to do over again, I'd still buy this sprayer. Teh total cost is $140 vs $299. All of the spray parts are exactly the same...I can clean the hopper a few times for that savings.

CJ
post #260 of 1625
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Originally Posted by Cathan View Post

x2

Is spraying really that much faster than using a roller or even a power roller?

I was able to put up 7 gallons in the theater in about 2.5 hours of spraying. I've used a power roller too and hated it. It was hard to get it adjusted correctly and it seemed to leave roller hairs all over. I used one in my bedroom and darn near threw it away. I'm going to give it to someone that I don't like I think.

I used nearly 8 gallons in the main part of the basement in 3 hours (most of the time was spent moving the sprayer and step stools around). I have painted quite a bit and spraying is so much faster it's not even a fair comparison.

I'm going to spray everything that I can. I don't think one can spray in rooms with furniture and carpet, but I love how quickly it goes and how well this little sprayer works.

CJ
post #261 of 1625
I made mistake of spraying without completly sealing off the next room - just had plastic sheet up......red paint dust made it into next room. Majority came up with a hoover but one of kids had split a drink and dust marked the carpet.
post #262 of 1625
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Originally Posted by BritInVA View Post

I made mistake of spraying without completly sealing off the next room - just had plastic sheet up......red paint dust made it into next room. Majority came up with a hoover but one of kids had split a drink and dust marked the carpet.

Yes, that's a good point. I sealed off the entire basement with drop cloths, and covered the windows too. I want to get the paint done so I can uncover them again (it's not as bright down there with the windows and doors covered).

The air filter strapped to the back of a box fan trick works very well to clear the air too.

CJ
post #263 of 1625
Wow. It's amazing what a little paint (even primer) does for a space eh? Love it. The place is really coming together. You're going to have an awesome space down there!


Are you doing glass above that half-wall in the shower / glass door?
post #264 of 1625
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Originally Posted by BlaXXXima View Post

Wow. It's amazing what a little paint (even primer) does for a space eh? Love it. The place is really coming together. You're going to have an awesome space down there!


Are you doing glass above that half-wall in the shower / glass door?

Thanks! We're really getting excited, although there's still a lot of work left to do. I figure first screening around Christmas, but we'll see...

The front of the 1/2 wall in the shower will be tiled with the same tile as the shower. We would like to to a thick rimless glass door and glass panel above the 1/2 wall. I'm also tiling the ceiling in the shower, so I'd like to go all the way up with the glass.

I haven't even started to cost that out, but that's what we want right now. We are working towards a spa like feel to the room.

CJ
post #265 of 1625
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Finished spraying the second coat of primer in main part of the basement yesterday. Did the entire ceiling and walls. I'll not bore you with pictures, but another step along the way.

Today we're going to try to paint the final color in the entire basement.

CJ
post #266 of 1625
Looks great!

It's always motivating when the room starts really taking shape and looking like a real room.
post #267 of 1625
Thread Starter 
Stuff came up and we weren't able to make any progress. ;-(

CJ
post #268 of 1625
Thread Starter 
OK, I made some progress two weeks ago. We got the second coat of primer up in the basement. With the exception of the equipment room, the entire basement has two coats of primer up.

Here are some photos of the primer:







Ran into a major roadblock in that the paint color we had decided on for the main part of the basement is now unsuitable (too dark). #$%@#!! Back to the drawing board!

CJ
post #269 of 1625
I love that doorway.. The angles and shadowboxes add alot of architectural interest.
post #270 of 1625
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After finishing the primer in the basement, we thought we were ready for color. Little did I know that our color choice would turn out to be unsuitable. The color we had picked for the main part of the basement appeared too dark. Back to the drawing board!

We stopped by Lowe's, HD, Sherwin Williams, and Benjamin Moore, as well as the many of your build threads. We literally evaluated hundreds of colors. We even picked up a bunch of samples of the ones that we liked the best:



These were on the wall in the basement for a week or so while we tried to figure out which we liked best in all of the different lighting. We knew we wanted a neutral tone. The wife really liked Bill M's blue color, but in the end, we kept gravitating to hues of brown.



We even picked up samples of Craig (StrangeBrew) and Blaxxima's colors. In the end, we decided on Brown Bag (Blaxxima's room color) and an antique white for the ceiling.

We picked up 11 gallons to do both the ceiling and walls, and hope to get started on it today.

In addition, we started tiling the shower:



Since I didn't get started until after 8:00pm, I didn't get much done. I did however, remember how much I don't like carrying boxes of tile. I carried 14 boxes of tile to the basement (through the house...the basement doors are covered in preparation for painting).

Question for you...when I spray one color on the ceiling and a different one on the walls, is there a special order I need to take to get this done? I think I'll spray 2 coats on the ceiling first then work on the walls. Has anyone sprayed both? How did you do it?

CJ
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