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post #14791 of 15215
Matt, I just can't help it though...as I just really read Alex's official statement... I mean come on man.. Was Luca Brasi present when Alex was writing that? We haven't heard from him....hope he's not sleeping with the fishes.

Mods, just can't help it.

Now back to a few more rounds with these kids and see who could be the future Brockton Blockbuster.
post #14792 of 15215
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Originally Posted by Chris Schempp View Post

I haven't seen that stated anywhere here. It's pure speculation that the AG is taking any action at this point in time.
Correlation does not imply causation.

yup, 100% pure speculation. i thought i was clear on that by saying that i could be wrong. that was just one of the possible scenarios of why friday...
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And no, Iowa State AG is not closing our doors tomorrow.

and there you go.
post #14793 of 15215
Take it for what it is, but that's what was written.

By the way, there are no strings controlling anybody here, there's no evil higher power, there's no hidden upper management. There's just me. Monday will mark week #3 where I've been here alone. I've chosen to stick it out and help.
post #14794 of 15215
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Originally Posted by MarvelousMarvin View Post

Mods, just can't help it.

Please try harder. I was screwed over by eD (Ben) years ago, so am not a fan. But a lot of your posts are simply not helpful. Matt is obviously trying to help as much as he can. Each minute he's here responding to your sniping is one less that he has to help. Give it a rest, dude!
post #14795 of 15215
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

I read that statement too, but something about his mea culpa strikes me as phony though. It almost comes across as being fabricated, with Alex as the lone scapegoat. It seems hard to fathom someone would willingly accept all the responsible for the collapse of a once thriving company, and in the process depict himself as totally incompetent. The whole thing might be completely legit, but it smells a bit fishy to me.

 

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“Over the last six months we at Elemental Designs have been struggling due to a few key factors. You, our customers deserve the right to be aware of these issues.

 

Under my leadership for the past two years Elemental Designs has lost a large share of its customer base in both the home and car audio markets. This is due to inefficiencies in large scale business management on my behalf. The mismanagement of in house production caused an increase in customer lead times while our goal was to decrease them. Key raw materials which go into almost all home audio products reached critical inventory levels due to inadequate reordering management. Without these raw products we did not have the availability to ship orders in the quoted time.

 

This mismanagement of inventory meant that we had a surplus of products that would only sell when heavily discounted and not enough inventory on the items customers demanded. This was a large issue with home audio amplifiers and raw drivers, causing long delays between order placement and shipping times. To fulfill orders quickly it required us to use vendors based in the US. The largest issue here became shrinking margins and order quantity decreasing over the past six months. To complicate things even more, we ran into many out of stock parts on components we did require. This lead to item stocking issues and with warranty replacement issues. Without the proper inventory levels, we relied on repairing faulty amplifiers instead of shipping out a new unit.

 

All of this combined is what put us in the situation we are in today. We are putting the website in standby and are working on current individual open inquiries.

 

Thanks.

 

Alex Lindeman

CEO

Elemental Designs”

 

 

I agree with Jim. When I try and read between the lines here's my take, FWIW:

 

Alex ran the show and takes full responsibility of the demise. I've highlighted his ownership comments in Bold. However, the problem he eludes to is related to production, and production planning....typically not a primary focus of the CEO, but a core focus on the folks who ran operations and the floor. I've highlighted those comments in blue.

 

My guess is that Alex didn't have a grasp on his people to turn production around, and the production team weren't very good at their job. If I read into it more, it doesn't sound like Alex and the production people were in concert over the years, and Alex couldn't make the hard decisions to cut bait with the production management/team. As a result, the combination left them fishing with poisoned bait, and the fish left the pond or got really sick and died...

 

I'm sure its much more complicated than that, but I guess my point is that there were many points of failure and he eluded to it in his statement.

 

My .02

 

 

post #14796 of 15215
according to the jasper county assessor's office, stephen & kimberly milne currently own the property that ed occupies. and yes, property taxes are current.
post #14797 of 15215
according to the iowa secretary of state website, elemental designs, l.c. was dissolved as of 08.11.08. no need to pierce the corporate veil. individuals are directly liable. ben milne is the only registered agent.

so ed has not existed for the last 4 years.
post #14798 of 15215
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Originally Posted by kb4all View Post

according to the jasper county assessor's office, stephen & kimberly milne currently own the property that ed occupies. and yes, property taxes are current.

according to the guthrie county iowa assessors website, stephen & kimberly milne just purcased a pretty nice house on 05.02.12.

things that make you go hmmmmmm.
post #14799 of 15215
For those that are tired of dealing with dead eD plate amps, just spend $260 on an inuke nu1000 dsp and wire it up. Shouldnt be that hard realistically, and you'll have a much better amp.

Ive written a blog post on how to do it.

http://polaraudio.blogspot.com/2012/08/bypassing-dead-subwoofer-plate.html
post #14800 of 15215
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Originally Posted by omegaslast View Post

For those that are tired of dealing with dead eD plate amps, just spend $260 on an inuke nu1000 dsp and wire it up. Shouldnt be that hard realistically, and you'll have a much better amp.
Ive written a blog post on how to do it.
http://polaraudio.blogspot.com/2012/08/bypassing-dead-subwoofer-plate.html

Thanks for posting that. I definitely love having another option available.

For those that haven't seen, Matt updated the blog with another post.

http://blog.edesignaudio.com/
post #14801 of 15215
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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

Please try harder. I was screwed over by eD (Ben) years ago, so am not a fan. But a lot of your posts are simply not helpful. Matt is obviously trying to help as much as he can. Each minute he's here responding to your sniping is one less that he has to help. Give it a rest, dude!


Can we not confuse everybody when we use the word HELP when Matt had been with ED for quite awhile now. Matt had been responding to these serious issues which have started getting more serious since May of this year. Now, he's telling us he is totally clueless of what had been going on.

Now, to be fair to Matt, he is doing the right thing in making it right to the people that ED had wronged. All I'm saying is let's try to be careful when using the word HELP here.

And again, I am one with those people who are still waiting for their money. Matt said he's doing and planning some liquidation of assets to be able to give back to customers whom ED owe's money... It is a must.

Liquidation sales of products will help... the more expensive assets like CNC machine, that information was sent to me via email that there are serious inquiries about these machineries. I don't know if this information is true (via private mail) from somebody who supposedly was interested in those machineries but didn't make any progress. (again information sent to me via private mail)
Edited by MarvelousMarvin - 8/30/12 at 10:11pm
post #14802 of 15215
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Originally Posted by dominguez1 View Post

I'm sure its much more complicated than that, but I guess my point is that there were many points of failure and he eluded to it in his statement.

i would think the whole thing is about money... or lack of money. cant pay for materials, cant pay vendors... or in my case, cant pay for services. the few times that i did contact Alex since January, it was said that they did not have the money to pay me. i think they were getting cut off by everyone at the end.
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Originally Posted by kb4all View Post

according to the guthrie county iowa assessors website, stephen & kimberly milne just purcased a pretty nice house on 05.02.12.
things that make you go hmmmmmm.

Ben's parents or relatives. the landlords of the property eD was using. not relevant. i just bought a nice house, and my old house is being rented to a business owner. yes, i am the landlord. if their business goes under for whatever reason, it has nothing to do with me, even though they are renting my property. not sure why you are posting this. good for them for taking advantage of the current housing market. i did the same thing.
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Originally Posted by NiceguyEdy View Post

For those that haven't seen, Matt updated the blog with another post.
http://blog.edesignaudio.com/

saw that this afternoon. which makes me believe that the shipping companies have not been paid, and eD got cut off. hope Matt can work it out.
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Originally Posted by MarvelousMarvin View Post

Liquidation sales of products will help... the more expensive assets like CNC machine, that information was sent to me via email that there are serious inquiries about these machineries. I don't know if this information is true (via private mail) from somebody who supposedly was interested in those machineries but didn't make any progress. (again information sent to me via private mail)

again, who owns those machines ? if eD does not own them, how can Matt sell them ? not a lot of small companies can go out and pay cash for a $100k item. that is likely a credit item, and likely defaulted on too.
post #14803 of 15215
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Originally Posted by MarvelousMarvin View Post

Can we not confuse everybody when we use the word HELP when Matt had been with ED for quite awhile now. Matt had been responding to these serious issues which have started getting more serious since May of this year. Now, he's telling us he is totally clueless of what had been going on.
Now, to be fair to Matt, he is doing the right thing in making it right to the people that ED had wronged. All I'm saying is let's try to be careful when using the word HELP here.

Feel better? What does that add to this situation? He clearly is helping, because as he said (and is fairly self-edvident) he could have just walked away, never posted here and not been the target of your tirade. Notice how many of the other posts are being constructive and offering alternatives and providing whatever info they can gather? Yet you choose to continue to bash and go after the one person in the whole outfit (an employee, mind you) who is offering ANY assistance. Or "help" if you prefer.

What is the point? Jeez.
post #14804 of 15215
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Originally Posted by daveds50 View Post

i would think the whole thing is about money... or lack of money. cant pay for materials, cant pay vendors... or in my case, cant pay for services. the few times that i did contact Alex since January, it was said that they did not have the money to pay me. i think they were getting cut off by everyone at the end.
Ben's parents or relatives. the landlords of the property eD was using. not relevant. i just bought a nice house, and my old house is being rented to a business owner. yes, i am the landlord. if their business goes under for whatever reason, it has nothing to do with me, even thought they are renting my property. not sure why you are posting this. good for them for taking advantage of the current housing market. i did the same thing.

saw that this afternoon. which makes me believe that the shipping companies have not been paid, and eD got cut off. hope Matt can work it out.
again, who owns those machines ? if eD does not own them, how can Matt sell them ? not a lot of small companies can go out and pay cash for a $100k item. that is likely a credit item, and likely defaulted on too.

Don't know daveds50, like I said, I got an information stating that there were inquiries or negotiations with regards to these machineries that I don't even know of... Don't even know what CNC stands for. Just was sent a private email with regards to this information. I guess Matt can respond to this if he chooses to, so this can be clarified.
post #14805 of 15215
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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

Feel better? What does that add to this situation? He clearly is helping, because as he said (and is fairly self-edvident) he could have just walked away, never posted here and not been the target of your tirade. Notice how many of the other posts are being constructive and offering alternatives and providing whatever info they can gather? Yet you choose to continue to bash and go after the one person in the whole outfit (an employee, mind you) who is offering ANY assistance. Or "help" if you prefer.
What is the point? Jeez.

You are mistaken. I am not bashing Matt in any way shape or form. I have stated that I believe theres somebody pulling all the strings as like you said, Matt is just an employee. No offense meant to Matt. As I have stated that I have been receiving emails as well from customers who have questions but are reluctant to post as to not get any ire from ED and hoping they can get their money back. I feel for them as I was once in their shoes as well. I just don't want to put them in a situation that they appear to be owing something to somebody when they were the one's that lost their monies in the first place.

Do you realize that there are people who said they have placed their orders just about a month ago? Two weeks that Matt is supposedly all alone... but even a month ago, there were still orders being placed and payments being accepted knowing that there are no more products that can be delivered.
Edited by MarvelousMarvin - 8/30/12 at 10:42pm
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Don't even know what CNC stands for.

Computer Numerical Controlled. in this case, an automated milling machine that a pattern is programmed into the computer. stick a piece of wood in it, hit go, and the finished product comes out.
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Originally Posted by MarvelousMarvin View Post

I guess Matt can respond to this if he chooses to, so this can be clarified.

i hope he does not. his time is better spent working on the goal, rather than wasting it typing. nothing needs to be clarified other than people receiving compensation. seriously, leave him alone and let him get things done.

if you want your answers, contact Alex. he knows what happened. and no, i dont know how to contact Alex.
post #14807 of 15215
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Originally Posted by daveds50 View Post

Computer Numerical Controlled. in this case, an automated milling machine that a pattern is programmed into the computer. stick a piece of wood in it, hit go, and the finished product comes out.

i hope he does not. his time is better spent working on the goal, rather than wasting it typing. nothing needs to be clarified other than people receiving compensation. seriously, leave him alone and let him get things done.
if you want your answers, contact Alex. he knows what happened. and no, i dont know how to contact Alex.

Daveds50, I only started asking Matt questions as he started posting a number of times lately. Very few maybe just a couple (maybe) of direct questions to Matt. Truth is, just like wth718 said as well, I believe Matt is just an employee... Maybe one of the top dogs, or a minority partner at most. That's my personal opinion that I know is shared by quite a number.

Alex? I don't know about that. Last we heard of him, he was stating how incompetent of a CEO he was in his supposedly open letter. Then he was nowhere to be found and don't even bother to post here.... (like he's not reading all of these).
post #14808 of 15215
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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

He clearly is helping, because as he said (and is fairly self-edvident) he could have just walked away, never posted here and not been the target of your tirade.

truth !

my only problem with what he said, was he could be trying to beat his high score on Guitar Hero... i mean get real !... at least get a real guitar ! biggrin.gif

( < with real guitars and 35 years of playing )
post #14809 of 15215
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Originally Posted by kb4all View Post

according to the iowa secretary of state website, elemental designs, l.c. was dissolved as of 08.11.08. no need to pierce the corporate veil. individuals are directly liable. ben milne is the only registered agent.
so ed has not existed for the last 4 years.

So the "company" was fraudulent for the last four years? Can we assume that no customer in the last four years had any standard consumer protections since the company didn't exist as a legal entity? People were (unknowingly) buying things from the individuals "representing" the company. It was far worse than we all imagined!
post #14810 of 15215
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Originally Posted by zora View Post

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Originally Posted by kb4all View Post

according to the iowa secretary of state website, elemental designs, l.c. was dissolved as of 08.11.08. no need to pierce the corporate veil. individuals are directly liable. ben milne is the only registered agent.
so ed has not existed for the last 4 years.

So the "company" was fraudulent for the last four years? Can we assume that no customer in the last four years had any standard consumer protections since the company didn't exist as a legal entity? People were (unknowingly) buying things from the individuals "representing" the company. It was far worse than we all imagined!




Elemental Designs LLC is not the name that is used on the Elemental Designs web site, so what does one have to do with the other?


http://www.corporationwiki.com/Iowa/Newton/elemental-designs-llc/55868061.aspx
post #14811 of 15215
I have been reading this thread for years and own one of their sub woofers but honestly don't really understand what has happened.

Can someone sum up what has happened with Elemental Designs? My 1300w amp has an internal rattle. Is there any chance I can get that replaced or am I just out of luck?

Sorry i have read all the posts going back quite a ways but still confused on what exactly has happened with ED.

Thanks,
Rodney
post #14812 of 15215
I just saw the article "Payment network Dwolla wins startup honor" on the first page of the Money section of the Omaha World-Herald. I thought it was rather ironic that on Elemental Designs last official day it is announced that Ben Milne was named startup executive of the year.
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Originally Posted by Omaha World-Herald 
Dwolla, the Des Moines online and mobile payment network, was named the startup of the year Thursday night during the first-ever Silicon Prairie Awards.

Dwolla, which has made waves in the digital payments industry in hopes of disrupting expensive, fee-based credit card networks, has been one of the most visible and fast-growing startups in the “Silicon Prairie,” the name often associated with the Midlands tech and entrepreneurship community.

The company also took home awards as the consumer startup of the year, and Ben Milne, the company’s founder and chief executive, and Brandon Weber, the company’s top software engineer, nabbed top honors as startup executive of the year and startup technologist of the year, respectively.
post #14813 of 15215
I am starting to delete posts that are off topic, nonsense (asking if ppl will be at a football game-even if joking) or repetative. If I see a trend in having to deleting a lot of any member's posts, then you'll be banned from posting in this thread. Again, quoting someone's posts to complain about their posting will only incite them to respond. In balance, to continue to repeat the same information in multiple posts (I'm sure it helps let off some steam) does not have a positive impact for your situation nor the overal group of ppl that have been stiffed by ED.
post #14814 of 15215
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Originally Posted by rcase13 View Post

I have been reading this thread for years and own one of their sub woofers but honestly don't really understand what has happened.
Can someone sum up what has happened with Elemental Designs? My 1300w amp has an internal rattle. Is there any chance I can get that replaced or am I just out of luck?
Sorry i have read all the posts going back quite a ways but still confused on what exactly has happened with ED.
Thanks,
Rodney

Rodney: For a summary (you can read the last 10 pages or so of this thread) you can visit ED's blog on their website. Matt, their lone employee has summarized their situation on their site. http://blog.edesignaudio.com/
post #14815 of 15215
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Originally Posted by omegaslast View Post

For those that are tired of dealing with dead eD plate amps, just spend $260 on an inuke nu1000 dsp and wire it up. Shouldnt be that hard realistically, and you'll have a much better amp.
Ive written a blog post on how to do it.
http://polaraudio.blogspot.com/2012/08/bypassing-dead-subwoofer-plate.html

excellent link. thank you.
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Originally Posted by zheka View Post

excellent link. thank you.

You most likely are not going to get eD to help you with the repair (I would recommend trying to reachout to Matt Tower) but there is a gentleman in this thread (daveds50) who has been repairing eD amps, and if you have to go down this route, it might be cheaper to have him repair it than buying a new amp, or worse, a new sub.
post #14817 of 15215
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Originally Posted by rcase13 View Post

My 1300w amp has an internal rattle. Is there any chance I can get that replaced or am I just out of luck?

i would say at this point, you are out of luck.

however, an internal rattle inside a 1300 should not be a hard thing to fix. something is loose, thats all.

i would let the thing sit off and unplugged for a day first... there is a large 10,000uF 160v filter capacitor inside, that feels like 88 Bazillion volts when it zaps you. ( yeah... dont ask why i know this... ) even after a day off, i would still avoid touching anywhere near it just to be on the safe side.

the plastic back cover comes off with 4 screws in the corners of the plate.

locate whatever is loose... use hot glue or silicone or whatever to secure, or if it is a loose screw or something, tighten it.


edit: i forgot... make sure the red and black binding posts on the speaker levels are tight... check this first. on the first one i worked on, these were all loose, and on the bass hits, rattled quite loudly.
Edited by daveds50 - 8/31/12 at 11:24am
post #14818 of 15215
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Originally Posted by rcase13 View Post

My 1300w amp has an internal rattle. Is there any chance I can get that replaced or am I just out of luck?
Thanks,
Rodney

That's funny because now on my 6th LT 500 I have an internal rattle. I thought it was my windows until I went up to the sub and realized it was the amp. I pulled it out, minding the caps;), and as soon as I picked it up off the lip of the sub the rattle stopped. I couldn't see anything that looked loose and I checked the binding posts and the connections on the board and didn't see anything. I guess I'll try taking that cover off and see if anything else could be loose. I'm glad I'm not the only one this bs keeps happening too. These amps really are a pos. Sorry you have the same luck Rodney.frown.gif
post #14819 of 15215
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Originally Posted by Madaeel View Post

I guess I'll try taking that cover off and see if anything else could be loose. I'm glad I'm not the only one this bs keeps happening too. These amps really are a pos. Sorry you have the same luck Rodney.frown.gif

there is no back cover on the LT500. the 500 and the 1300 are totally different, and share basically nothing. on the 500, it may be as simple as tightening the screws on the outside of the amp. possible that no removal is needed.

this is not exclusive to eD amps by the way. some of my other clients have the same problem. anytime you mount something with screws directly to something that has vibrations, screws or whatever can vibrate loose.
post #14820 of 15215
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Originally Posted by Madaeel View Post

That's funny because now on my 6th LT 500 I have an internal rattle. I thought it was my windows until I went up to the sub and realized it was the amp. I pulled it out, minding the caps;), and as soon as I picked it up off the lip of the sub the rattle stopped. I couldn't see anything that looked loose and I checked the binding posts and the connections on the board and didn't see anything. I guess I'll try taking that cover off and see if anything else could be loose. I'm glad I'm not the only one this bs keeps happening too. These amps really are a pos. Sorry you have the same luck Rodney.frown.gif

you took the amp out while playing? the pressure inside the enclosure could cause a "rattle" like sound if the seam wasn't perfect. Of course I'm not there to hear it so I can't really tell.
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