Picture Quality of my Pirates is not as good as Best Buy. Why?

Might be a stupid question, but how is your PS3 connected to your set?

Next time you're at Best Buy, see if the TV you were looking at is one of the newer 120hz sets. If your Best Buy is anything like the ones I frequent, that's the case. It makes it look incredibly clear, almost 3D, but if you stand and watch it for a minute, movements seem a little "off."

That's just my experience anyway... I've seen the 120hz stuff now on Samsungs and the Sonys (XBR4 in particular).

It is possible that Best Buy TV is better configured / setup than your TV at home. The settings on a TV have a significant impact on the picture quality you see.

That said, LCD technology is improving at a fast rate. It is not like CRT where the new models were comparable to those released the year before, and the year before that. At least for now, significant strides / improvements are made in LCD picture quality every year.

You cannot expect your LCD of one or two years ago to offer comparable picture quality to the latest and greatest models.

you were probably looking at a tv that cost twice the prcie of your current set. most likely the new 120hz sets.

I dont mean to burst you're bubble but that's not what 120hz is supposed to do.
It reduces motion blur.

That 3D effect is from a good encode and a properly calibrated set. Which I dont think BB has ever had.(boo factory settings).

And there's another thread on this exact subject.(I mean it's almost exactly the same, title and everything)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=951802

You're sets no slouch. So I think you got wrapped up by BBs pumped up colors, It draws you in but the picture isn't usually ever accurate.

The 120Hz sets accept 1080P24 directly. This removes judder and is the most accurate representation of the movie. Once you spend an hour or so watching this feed, you start to see uncomfortable things on sets that don't handle that.

Best advice is not to watch things like this until you get a set that can do that.

Btw, people who visit from europe with their PAL TV often comments something looks wrong with movies on NTSC (it's the 3:2 cadance).

+1 it's definately the TV. I sat and watched about 20 minutes of transformers on this sort of tv and my impression was that in some ways it looks better but in others it was really odd. hard to explain...it made the movie seem less film like and more virtual. it made the robots look fake... hope this helps

I would rather pass on the 120hz tvs. When I 1st started looking at it, it looked really clear and I was impressed, but this was watching outdoor scenes. As soon as I saw a person "actor" it just seemed really weird. It looked like a really hopped up version of a home made video. It lacked the feel of a movie. It made it look like a behind the scenes version of the scene before they take and edit it. I didn't like it at all. Especially Pirates of the Caribbean, all the CGI charecters looked so fake it was hilarious.

Best way to describe it is the 120hz make the movies look more like soap operas, the way those look. I would rather my movie look like a movie, not some back yard video.

I absolutely agree!!

120hz is a gimmick put out there for people to reup and buy new TV sets. I've watched several movies so far in 120hz.

Kingdom of Heaven w/ 120 hz -looked like one of those low budget PBS history reenactment specials.
Transporter 2 w/ 120 hz- took away the uniqueness of the action in this movie. Turned into a hilarious wannabe action soap opera
Fantastic 4 : ROTSS w/ 120hz- made the movie comical ecspecially when the " Thing " was on screen. The Silver Surfer looses his greatness. Sad. I had to actually watch this again
w/o 120hz to trick my mind into rebelieving.
Spiderman 3 w/ 120hz - Want to be able to tell the difference between live actor Spiderman and CG Spiderman....watch this in 120hz. Background props looked hella fake too.
Transformers w/120hz - I have to agree when the Autobots and Decepticons would do battle 120hz made it better but everything else made it looked as if you were watching this on set.
Pirates of the Caribbean: AWE - This movie looked so fake. What a shame. Just like Fantastic 4 the story and credibility went completly out the window you are just focused on how fake it looks.

Really fast motion its great. I love it watching Football games but for Movies I'd rather disable this.

yeah, I agree...I'm starting to really not like the 120hz auto motion plus feature. It looked rad for a few days. But after a while it made everything look eerie. And the results aren't very consistent with all sources. It looks especially weird with a film with a heavy layer of grain. The only thing I liked the feature was when watching certain cgi or nature flicks.

I prefer the feel and look and film (and I'm sure the director wouldn't want us watching it this way, as if we're watching a bad drama flick from BBC)

I agree with the above. I thought outdoor shots looked awesome though, like you were right there. I couldn't imagine how Planet earth would look on a 120hz TV, you could probably reach in and grab one of those birds of paradise. The nature shots look awesome on 120hz.

But as soon as you put a "Blockbuster" movie on a 120hz tv, it also makes those "Blockbuster" movies look like documenteries, just as the poster described above. It still looks good, but just weird, definitely takes away the magic from the movie. I couldn't even watch pirates of the caribbean because you can't help but ignore the story line and notice how fake everything looks. Yes, the kingdom of Heaven looked exactly like a documentery, like something from the BBC or the History channel.

Actually, what people are talking about in this thread is the effect that interpolates extra frames in between the actual frames on the disc, speeding up the frame rate and making it look like video. What you are referring to is the way it should be done (5:5 pulldown), but some of the 120Hz TVs aren't capable of this for some reason.

I have to really disagree with that statement. There is no way its an accurate representation of the movie. It would accurately represent the movie if you were watching it on the set live with your own eyes.

I have never been in a movie theater and had the same experience as what they show on 120hz tv, the movie theater still makes a movie "Feel" like a movie, not a soap opera or a Documentery. Thats just obvious. I am sure directors don't like the way the new tvs make movies look, I sure as hell wouldn't. Now nature shows are another matter, they look great.

Wow, I didn't know abouth the 120hz tv thingy lookind so fake during a movie. Thanks for the info. I was interested in these,... Thanks for the info.

Well, if you get one that is capable of 5:5 pulldown, it will look fine. Even if it can't do that, the interpolation can be turned off.

I have seen one tv that did 120hz and it did the 5:5 pulldown. I could not tell the difference between that one and the 60hz tv beside. Everything looked hunky dory on both tvs, not enough reason to spend more money on the 120hz, at least from what I saw.

Dang, I just got a 52" Sony XBR5 LCD and played pirates at 24p and thought that exact same thing. Home made movie. Weird way to describe it but wow, at least I'm not the only one that thinks that. Also it seems like the movie is moving faster on this screen than it would be on another non 120hz screen.

You may be right on this one, I just purchased over this past weekend a sony kdl 46xbr5 tv and wow, blu ray looks 3d!

Does it also look like a Video Documentary? There is no way I could watch a full movie with that motion technology or whatever sony has. From what I understand you can turn that motion crap off and then it would look like a normal TV again, rather then the High Def home recorded type look you get when its on.

I went to best buy and was talking to a salesman about it, he also agreed with me that it made the picture look strange, it is like looking through a glass though, no doubt about that, but I would rather watch my movie through a camera rather then being on the set watching it get filmed, no magic in that.

Guys, the only tvs that do proper 5:5 pulldown are the Sony XBr4/5 and A3000 120hz tvs. You have to turn off the "motion enhancer" which is the mode that all the other 120hz tvs have that is making everything look like video/smoothed/weird, whatever you want to call it. This motion enhancing crap is a waste of cash but getting 24p and 5:5 pulldown is worth it but you have to go with sony for lcd/rearprojection or pioneer plasma(for 3:3 pulldown). Otherwise you need a front projector. There is a thread dedicated to the subject listing the TVs that do proper pulldown. All the other brands haven't been confirmed to actually do it so they are a waste of cash, just get the non 120hz version.

I have seen a XBR4 with the motion enhancer turned off.

Watching it side by side with an older SXRD sony rear projection TV, I could tell absolutely no difference in the picture. They looked the exact same to me. I could tell of no benefit from one over the other. Perhaps I am not sensitive to Jutter or motion blur which 120hz is suppose to cure, I don't know. With that observation in mind, I don't think 120hz is really a huge upgrade, or any upgrade, at least for me and what I perceived.

Bingo. Most people seem to be missing the point of 120hz TVs. The motion enhancer is great for watching sports, but it has be turned off for movies. I have a hard time watching movies on my 34" Sony HS420 after watching HD DVDs and Blu-Ray movies for the past month or so on my new 46" XBR4 in 1080p/24.

Most 120Hz TV's I have seen on display make the content look like VIDEO and NOT FILM, for film based content, which made it look WORSE. Hopefully all TV's will properly process to 120Hz next year, unlike those from this year?

What is the point of 120hz? because the approach of marketing to the mass public isn't just geared for sports. If you walk into a CC or BestBuy right now 120hz is pretty much
being shoved down your throat for all TV viewing. Average Joe walks out thinking this is how all TV's are being made now a days.

But I do I agree 120hz is great for sports.

The XBR4/5's do not have this issue if the motion enhancer is turned off. Check this link out: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=942145