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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

DVR and or DVD/Blu-ray wise it's a good thing. It gets old seeing the same opening sequence (until you fast forward) as you view one episode after another. A good example is Dexter.

I always watch the opening to Dexter. Its one of the best sounding themes of all time IMO, same with True Blood and Game of Thrones. Actually come to think of it, pretty much only shows found on premium cable have an opening of any length. Basic cable shows generally are shorter (ie Walking Dead or Justified), and broadcast shows have very short openings or none at all.
post #3002 of 3285
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Originally Posted by lobosrul View Post

I always watch the opening to Dexter.

I do too... once or twice. Now if I'm running through a season worth or two over a weekend... no way am I sitting through it a dozen or more times. Same for True Blood. For watching once a week it's fine... other wise it's almost as irritating as seeing the same commercial on Hulu/Hulu Plus repeated endlessly.
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Sadly, that seems to be the prevailing opinion these days. Thankfully for those of us who like theme songs, most shows on DVD were produced before that mindset became prevalent. Skjpping the openings of an episode of Star Trek, Stargate, or Buffy the Vampire Slayer would be almost blasphemous. biggrin.gif
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As far as shows nowadays, if I wanted to hear a song by The Who, I'd rather put on a CD and listen to the whole thing. biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

As far as shows nowadays, if I wanted to hear a song by The Who, I'd rather put on a CD and listen to the whole thing. biggrin.gif

I call it audio clutter. smile.gif
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MLB Network now has 2 promotional spam texts on the screen. On the lower left, one for an upcoming awards show, on the lower right,
a promo for "Hot Stove" (weekdays at 9am LIVE). Plus the usual ticker crap. Two more corners to go.
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Man this on-screen clutter annoys me - I am at home a lot and have TV on in background while I do other things, like read this forum. Although the promo ads annoy me it is the product ads that really make my blood boil. Every time I see a product advertised I email the company and tell them how greedy they are to advertise during the "commercial breaks" as well as during the 5 or so minutes of program that I am trying to watch. I tell them that we now have a negative opinion of their company (I sure do remember which products have "popped-up" and annoyed me). I have received replies from many companies but more importantly their ads seem to disappear soon after I write, hopefully they receive numerous complaints and decide to opt out. The only ads that continue to appear are for the company that owns these specialty stations and my emails to them have been completely ignored. I am going to continue doing this and invite anyone else who is PO'd to please join me. BTW I live in Canada and I am talking about Shaw Media channels, obviously. Thanks for your support.
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Originally Posted by Juliesue View Post

Every time I see a product advertised I email the company and tell them how greedy they are to advertise during the "commercial breaks"
Ummmm... wow.
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Originally Posted by Jeremy W View Post

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Originally Posted by Juliesue View Post

Every time I see a product advertised I email the company and tell them how greedy they are to advertise during the "commercial breaks"
Ummmm... wow.

Nice straw man. You left out the critical part of the sentence, which says:
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Originally Posted by Juliesue View Post

Every time I see a product advertised I email the company and tell them how greedy they are to advertise during the "commercial breaks" as well as during the 5 or so minutes of program that I am trying to watch

The point Juliescue was ostensibly making is that it's excessive to advertising during the program itself on top of advertising during designated commercial breaks and that advertising should not encroach upon shows themselves. It detracts from having meaningful discussions here to misrepresent people's positions by taking quotes out of context, so I hope that was not your intention.
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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives View Post

It detracts from having meaningful discussions here to misrepresent people's positions by taking quotes out of context, so I hope that was not your intention.
I interpreted the "5 minutes" comment to be referring to the length of the commercial breaks, taking away from the program they were trying to watch. If it was just a hyperbolic reference to the length of the actual program content, and I was incorrect, then I apologize.
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Sometimes a Program will run for five minutes.......

The Commercials will run for six minutes! mad.gif
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Thank you for correctly interpreting my meaning Aleron Ives, just a typo that should have read "advertising in addition to advertising during commercial breaks" - often I see a regular commercial for a product and then a couple of minutes into the program a pop-up appears for exactly the same product ie for dog food during Dog Whisperer. That is my point and this is what I mean by being greedy. Other times I have sent emails simply stating that the pop-up ads are irritating and distracting, and the ads (in most cases) eventually disappear. And I did mean 5 minutes of television program, no hyperbole there. Program segments run between 5 and 7 minutes, with some exceptions of course.
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Don't you just love the Star Trek movies they are showing now on Syfy, with the stinkin' noticable text up (above the Syfy channel bug) that just stays throughout the movie "Deals from the Dark Side" "Haven"

The time is near for going all internet (no sat or cable to even compliment) with a Roku, and getting content from paid sources with no ads (Netflix, Amazon Instant Video).
Edited by mike1977 - 12/3/12 at 8:09pm
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Don't worry; all those sources will start showing ads to boost their revenue as soon as they have enough subscribers to make spamming them worthwhile financially. Cable used to be a spam-free place to escape from broadcast TV advertising, after all.
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Originally Posted by mike1977 View Post

Don't you just love the Star Trek movies they are showing now on Syfy, with the stinkin' noticable text up (above the Syfy channel bug) that just stays throughout the movie "Deals from the Dark Side" "Haven"
The time is near for going all internet (no sat or cable to even compliment) with a Roku, and getting content from paid sources with no ads (Netflix, Amazon Instant Video).

I have all 11 Star Trek movies on DVD. One month's pay TV bill will pay for all of them. I have been pay TV free for 4 years. Don't forget to hook up an antenna and get your locals in HD and other subchannels.
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And thanks a lot to all the cable subscribers who didn't cancel their subscriptions when this started!
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Originally Posted by 8traxrule View Post

And thanks a lot to all the cable subscribers who didn't cancel their subscriptions when this started!

That's the biggest problem, all the "Sheeple" who simply plod along, and continue to pour good money after bad for crappy programming. However, slowly but surely more and more subscribers are becoming disgruntled with what they are paying for, mad.gif and are seeking their entertainment and informational needs elsewhere! tongue.gif
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ABC needs to stop the screen spamming. This is disgusting.

Edited by icemannyr - 12/5/12 at 7:40pm
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On another note, USA looks good now, logo is in the bottom right corner of the 16:9 frame, doesn't look like they use any clutter on the screen.
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Originally Posted by 8traxrule View Post

And thanks a lot to all the cable subscribers who didn't cancel their subscriptions when this started!

 

No one suspected at that time how horrible this trend would become.

 

The broadcasters are purposely and carefully shoving this up their viewers you-know-where graaaaaaaaadually.

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I've noticed BBC America HD has been clutter free for the past couple of days.smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Why should how those you don't even know choose to spend their money be a "problem" for you?

Because, if a significant portion of the population really cared about not having garbage plastered on their screen, and voted with their wallet (and let their service provider know why they canceled), then it would disappear in a big hurry.

Edit: uhhh what just happened. I replied to a post that is now after the response, and slightly different....
post #3023 of 3285
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On another note, USA looks good now, logo is in the bottom right corner of the 16:9 frame, doesn't look like they use any clutter on the screen.

Sad when "just" one logo starts looking good in comparison to other channels.
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Originally Posted by Solfan View Post

No one suspected at that time how horrible this trend would become.

The broadcasters are purposely and carefully shoving this up their viewers you-know-where graaaaaaaaadually.

I'm sure you've heard the tale about cooking a Frog. If you try to put a Frog in hot water he'll just jumpm out, but if you put im in cold water and Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadually turn up the heat, he won't realise he is getting cooked until it's too late!

Same thing with TV. They started soft at first with Norman Lear's first Sitcoms, including All in the Family. Then more and more "Mature" Subjects were entered in, pushing the envelope even further. Same thing with Commercials. Until the Mid-1970s the only Woman's "Personal" Products advertised were Bras and Girdles, then came the Feminine Hygiene Products. People did complain, but were shoved aside by the Networks and the Advertisers, both of which "Hid behind the US Constitution". Next came the Prescription Drug Commercials. and so on. The Station/Network Logos didn't appear until the 1980s, then the Pop-Ups and other screen-obscuring garbage came along.

But the Pendulum swings the other way as well. Cord-Cutting is taking place, and it too is happening at a slow pace. More and more people are quitting, becoming disgruntled by the high prices and the reduced quality. Sooner or later something is going to have to give, and I don't think the results are going to be pretty!
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Originally Posted by borntocoast View Post

More and more people are quitting, becoming disgruntled by the high prices and the reduced quality. Sooner or later something is going to have to give, and I don't think the results are going to be pretty!

 

To think they're not prepared for that would be incredibly naive.

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Originally Posted by icemannyr View Post

ABC needs to stop the screen spamming. This is disgusting.

I do not watch primetime programming via the broadcast networks. Haven't done so for a while now.
post #3027 of 3285
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Originally Posted by 8traxrule View Post

And thanks a lot to all the cable subscribers who didn't cancel their subscriptions when this started!
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Originally Posted by borntocoast View Post

That's the biggest problem, all the "Sheeple" who simply plod along, and continue to pour good money after bad for crappy programming. However, slowly but surely more and more subscribers are becoming disgruntled with what they are paying for, mad.gif and are seeking their entertainment and informational needs elsewhere! tongue.gif
Give me a break.

Cancelling a subscription isn't going to do anything to stop the practice. In fact, it will likely increase it as networks redouble their efforts to attract the viewers that are still out there.

If you want anything to change, you have to hit the networks where it hurts. Tell their advertisers you've stopped watching shows they advertise in because of this practice. Then pass the list of all the ones you contacted along to the networks and make it clear you're going to be a pain the a** about this as long as it continues.

Then, you need to do the opposite for networks that don't spam their programming: let the advertsiers know how much you like this and let the networks know you've told the advertisers how much you like the practice.

Further, when you write, you need to write an actual letter and mail it. E-mail can be deleted with just a glance and it's gone forever. Networks and ad execs hate physical paper when it isn't a compliment. Someone has to open that envelope up and the impact is far greater.

The cable company doesn't care why you cancel and certainly isn't going to pass your complaint on to the network. Further, the broadcast networks aren't going to care whether you cancel cable or not.

The fact is, the major players in this thread are people who cancelled because they didn't want to spend the money and likely didn't even bother to complain to anyone who mattered about the issue. Of course, thatbegs the question of how much credibility someone who has't had pay TV for years has in determining just how bad things might be. Tuning in now and then to the worst offenders doesn't show you how many networks out there refrain from that stuff.

Of course, there are some here who gripe over even the most ghostly of station logos linging in the corner of the screen, so I would suspect nothing is going to make them happy.
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The cable company doesn't care why you cancel

They don't? Then they really have no reason to complain about losing business.
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Cancelling a subscription isn't going to do anything to stop the practice. In fact, it will likely increase it as networks redouble their efforts to attract the viewers that are still out there.

As Yoda might say, "That is why you fail."
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Originally Posted by charlie460 View Post

On another note, USA looks good now, logo is in the bottom right corner of the 16:9 frame, doesn't look like they use any clutter on the screen.

Not anymore. Tonight they are scrolling useless Twitter comments at the bottom of the screen.
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Originally Posted by 8traxrule View Post

They don't? Then they really have no reason to complain about losing business.
They really don't care why you cancel. They're only job is to try to win you back with just enough free or discounted stuff so they can still make money off you. Beyond that, they don't want you.

Since they don't control what the networks put on their channels and really don't care what they put on their, that's not a reason they give a rat's behind about for cancelling. It's likely not even an option in their system. They likely post it under "other".
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As Yoda might say, "That is why you fail."
Fail at what?

I don't get bothered by every little bit of graphics and I stay away from Networks like G4 and Halmmark that plaster the stuff all over everything. I also don't watch movies on channels that show commercials.

For me, as long as it's a relatively small and translucent font, I can ignore it and enjoy the show.
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